The BIGGEST LANDCRUISER 300 SERIES TOWING TEST EVER COMPLETED! Is It Any Good?
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Following the towing test Reuben did testing the Landcruiser 200 Series vs Nissan Y62 (link for this video is below), Reuben is back putting the new Landcruiser 300 Series Sahara to the test!
Is the new 300 Series any good for towing? Is the 300 Series Landcruiser better than a 200 Series Landcruiser for towing? Tune in to find out!
If you would like to watch the Landcruiser 200 Series vs Nissan Y62 Towing comparison, you can watch that video here: • V8 Y62 Patrol vs Landc...
You buy a car as expensive as the 300, then you have to buy a new suspension for it. Top stuff!!
Thats with any Toyota the case.
Thank Fck I ordered a Y62. Arrives June and saved $30k. Yes we test drove the 300, we done 7 kms and took it back.
It is a good car. Congratulations on the purchase.
Biggest mistake you have ever made
@@tyzon00800definitely not
Watching that y62 recover those Toyota’s made my day.
LOL
Hi Mate, I have driven a 2014 and 2018 200 series for the last 8 years and just taken delivery of my new 300. The real difference with my experience and yours are mine have all been GX spec.
The fist one was kept std with a little ARB protection gear on it only. The 2018 one we did the GVM upgrade with Old man emu remote shocks, bigger wheels and lots of protection gear.
It drove and performed so much better than the first one and towed our 3.4 tonne van so we’ll, without the need to use the stabilisers.
Coming from these to the GX 300 is like a game changer, it actually has buttons on the steering wheel 😋.
I love it and the drive is so much better, as you know there is no approved GVM upgrade available right now, but I’m told there will be very soon.
I really enjoyed your towing test video and being a Toyota man, I think money for value at the GX level, now that Toyota have put some fruit on it, it is much better that the Y62 in so many ways and worth a good look before spending over $100k. David.
A bloody good honest opinion at the end, well done guys.
Cheers Brett! Thanks for watching :)
Great review man and bring on that beast of a 62 hahah
Thanks Jamie!
Coming to this vid after the 4wd247 episode...and the intro got me like not again Rueben.
LOL
You can't compare the 300 torque with the Y62.
The 300 doesn't get enough torque until the twin turbos cut in.
We're as the Y62 is almost instant.
The Nissan has more advantages in many ways manner and forms.
LOL
Cheers
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when are you guys gonna do a rundown of the y62
Very soon Tom. We just have a couple of things in front of it, but over the coming month I would it would happen. :)
Dam that y62 just makes me want one looks so good can’t wait to see u take that out on the tracks
Big t, you're not going to like this but we just beat one up real bad. . . there's going to be a video released this week with the damage details 😬
Dam that patrol is hard
Toyota moved the camera centrally - thank god! ESC just like ABS, nup. The real test for this new car is to go to central Australia and tow the van in 48 deg heat to check the heat soak of the hot V design. Would have been good to hook up a scan gauge to check transmission temps - ie does it lock or continue to fluff about.
That would be a good test to Greg, no doubt about it. See how good the coolers work. Unfortunately we can't spare the time to head out to central Australia for this test. Have you seen this shown anywhere yet? I would love to check it out.
That was EPIC! love the van getting sideways in the rear vision mirror! glad your not towing my van though mate haha! this is a real life towing test! love your work!
One other comment if I may - I went from a LC100 V8 to the new 300 GR-S. The 100 pulled the van like it wasn't there, but I noticed that the 300 was more susceptible to the "tail-wagging-the-dog" thing. I think it's to do with the fact that the V6 engine is about 100Kg lighter than the big V8 was, and although we have a bull bar on the front (as we did with the V8 too), that lighter front end makes the car more sensitive to the van motion. The solution? I put air bags in the rear coils of the 300 just for leveling up, but the biggest improvement came when we installed an Oz Glide on the draw bar of the van. Incredible the difference that made. It decouples the van motion from the car. Best buck for buck money we spent on the whole setup. I have no affiliation with Oz Glide, just one of the many very happy users. They're made here in Queensland, too, on the Sunny Coast.
Hi , I currently own one of the last GXL 2021 LC200 with just 7000klm on the clock: With 6000klms towing a 2.7ton van. Recently I was lucky to have a loan of a Sahara 300 for 24 hours. What annoys me is that out of all the LC300 reviews I have read and seen on RUclips, nobody comments on how noisey the new V6 motor is . It became evident as soon as I started driving. I have completed my own in cab comparison noise test under full load and acceleration with the engines getting to 4000rpm. The 200 came in at 80DCB and the 300 at 90DCB. A significant difference if you know how sound measurement works.With a ten speed gear box the engine will always be revving harder and higher and I found noise level unacceptable for a Sahara. Not to mention the bonnet shaking around on suburban roads. Please try this test for yourself with standard exhaust systems. The 300 is a good vehicle however If I Had the opportunity to clean swap vehicles, definitely no, The 200 would still be my pick hands down .
i found that i cant stop getting traveling cramps and have to pull over for a pull its the vibration of the engine nearly rubbed the skin of it.
I feel the ride being rough will have not been helped by the 20 inch rims. Thanks for the review. It would have been very difficult to bag out the tyres, with such low profile tyres too. You're right about the GR suspension. Chalk & Cheese. So much more comfortable than the lesser models. :)
I think you may be right Robyn. It would not have helped at least.
And 265 tires 200 has 285
Would like to see the new Defender 110 D300 do the same test. Love ya work.
Cheers Marty. :)
At the end of the day, The Patrol still saved you...therefore, the Patrol is the ONE to buy...period!
That's a bit simplistic point of view. That patrol is a bult weapon not a stock factory car on 20s and road tyres in mud.
Seriously considering trading my 200 series on a RAM2500 for another big lap better GVM and GCM. The 300 series cost plus GVM upgrade cost is getting expensive and I still have to compromise on weight.
Do not let size define the end of your plastics, really I want to emphasize the fact that although the weight says this but it still is a lot of plastic weight.
Patrol to the rescue !!!
This new engine is an overall better design than the previous 4.5 I'm sure. Mated to the 10 speed it makes for an awesome drivetrain. It's the rest of the vehicle that I don't like at all personnally. Patrol all the way !
@666 Dual Sport Paul Maric test dit and got 13.5 l/100 kms. It's also better at towing. But it isn't as good at having you losing $10'000 for the whole injector ramp 😂
It's fine to stick to the diesel, I own one, but not that one.
@666 Dual Sport Sorry I was talking about the 4.5, maybe I should've been more precise. Impressive torque but bad engine overall (for Toyota).
The new 3.3, while extremely complex, should be much better but hey, that's a new generation.
@666 Dual Sport Lucky you, I wish I could afford one of these...
13.5 was in normal conditions.
@@jean-louishamid5285 Toyota sooks only have the one comeback, fuel economy 🤣Like people who buy a Y62 did not even think to check what they use before they brought one🙄 They just don't get it, better to leave them be in their ignorance and chest pumping 😂
@666 Dual Sport yeah mate you stick with your diesel since now unleaded it's like 20 cents cheaper than diesel funny that, and I have a stock standard Y62 series 5 and Highway driving I get 11.7 l per 100
Ruben the crossing chain nag has it's effect after the break , the caravan broke and the chain starts. the caravan goes to left the metal has break point and the behavior changesThe crossed and broken metal gets puled opposite way Tadaaa.
i think
Great video Reuben and an epic tow test.
I have been following the new 300 since launch and would love to own one, though as you said, it is certainly on the pricey side, even for the base model.
I have never owned a 4WD, though I have taken the 300 Sahara for a test drive and was super impressed with the power on tap and delivery through the 10 speed auto. It really surprised me with the get up and go, certainly nothing like other diesel cars I have ridden in. I love what you guys do at DMW and the adventures you have with Shaun and the boy's. One day I look forward to bringing in a 300 series Cruiser for you to work your magic and give it the full DMW treatment.
Love your work and keep the videos flowing. 👍👍
Thank you Jordan. Cheers for watching :)
Still don’t understand why 200 and especially 300 LC owners worry about fuel economy considering the stupid money they pay for those vehicles in the first place!!! They have to have more dollars than $ence.
I think it is just good to know how much fuel you use for the range of the tank. Especially if towing and remote.
Just look at headrests in the backseats when he is taking about the bumps looks like a serious vibration going true the vehicle
Love the comment from Glen Toyota recovery mode 😜😜
LOL
what an expensive heap of Sh$$t. Typical Toyota, need to spend even more money to get it up to compete against a 13 year old model Patrol Y62. Would love to work for Toyota, you can design any rubbish doesn't matter the sheep will spend what ever you ask because it has a Toyota badge. Was looking forward to the 300 release only to be massively disappointed
Have driven both the 200 series & 300 series (albeit a GR Sport) - I think the ride and handling is streets ahead in the 300 Series.
Much smoother & better planted than the 200.
Ordered a new 300 GR sport as my next vehicle so time will tell -- the long wait begins....
Cheers for the feedback Mark. It is good to hear other peoples thoughts between the two models.
Love the sound of the Y62
Stock tyres on mud with a large van. Not so smart…..
Yes never drive in the wet. Get a dirty car and a dirty van. Lol 😂
I am really confused by this review in regards to the handling aspects - 200 Series is a wallowing boat compared to a 300 series . I really liked the two times I have driven the 300 - it's really moved things forward in particular regarding the suspension (both drives passive- i.e. GXL and VX). I think that you are comparing very modified 200 series cruisers vs what comes out of the showroom. It may not be deliberate, maybe subconscious.... Haven't driven the Y62 but both cruisers are not close to the Discovery 4 for handling and steering feel (except for the all important reliability yes I know). I am waiting for the new Everest to be reviewed as I think that the 300 series is very over priced and the Everest has grown in all dimensions (1st March launch).
We kept a Sahara 200 Series stock standard for a very long time and put plenty of miles on it. We felt that drove quite good to be honest.
As a Toyota guy with a much modified troopy, that chopped patrol gave me a boner and I'm now looking for a clean 2nd hand one to replicate (sports cars are for Oxford Street cruisers and hairdressers). Mate, the fact that you were willing to commit that overpriced, weak and wobbly 300 to that level of tow test is truly awesome, just like you putting your 79 on its side on 4wd 24/7, massive commitment, I know where I'm spending my hard earned.
Cheers for watching :)
It is good to have a good range of vehicles to choose from hey. How good!
Mate, you should’ve tried to use the crawl control system the car has
Very good, honest and practical review!
Thank you Daniel :)
So you’ve paid what, $130k for a tow vehicle and you still need you upgrade the suspension?
Couple of things about your hitching-up procedure though. On my GR Sport, it wouldn't let me back up to the drawbar - until I turned off the rear park brake assist function that's designed to stop you backing into a wall or another car in the car park. Button near the right knee solved that one. Second, although you crossed your chains, they're pretty slack so probably wouldn't hold the nose of the van up if the tow hitch came undone, as you rightly say. Looks like they're a few links too long, to me. And lastly - you left one wire dangling - looked like the cable for the rear camera on the caravan. We have the Safety Dave on the back of our van, and that cable is essential if you want to see who's directly behind the van, rather than waiting for a bend in the road so the towing mirrors might get a glimpse of them. Speaking of towing mirrors - where are they?
100% agree about the lane assist, its dangerous how much they can grab, I drove a hire vehicle along the Strzelecki into outback qld and missing road kill was painful. Definitely think if people need this feature they shouldn't be on the road
missus just brought a new Mazda the safety shitt is like wtf. if you can't drive don't buy a f#=$ing car. let alone a 4x4
Nissan power V8 $50 a tow lol 😂 and a few beers.
Much prefer the cruise control stalk over the steering wheel buttons. You don’t have to look at the controls to operate, The stalk is the most ergonomic and intuitive system of any car
Totally agree 👍
Great ad for the Y62, sounds great!
It sure does!
Mate you are a classic love it great testing for the 300 but I want that y62 hands down think I will have to get me one of them
Go for it!
as if anyone in their wright mind would tow a van in that sh#t with a stock car with the Mrs blowing up in your ear.Great review.Im tossing up between the 200,300 & Y62.I apreciate your honesty.Seems like there is still a significant outlay to get the 300 to be comfortable off road.
Great video. Traded my S5 Y62 for a 300. It’s miles nicer as a daily drive, I love it so far. I feel like the suspension is too soft though and have some Bilstein BP60 on the way. And you are right about the lane keep assist, turn it off generally.
bet it dont sound like a 62
@@Alank63 thank goodness for that!...especially the y62 sound of the fuel cap being undone every 500k..lol
@@robyncrighton1255 the 200 uses more fuel and the cost of diesel you can have your Toyota.
I’ve always treated and thought lane keep assist is always for the straight motorways in case you start to drift off. To stop alert you that you should probably have a break as you’re starting to either micro sleep or lose attention. Anywhere else it’s useless.
Was this stock suspension off the showroom floor? Did you have just airbags in?
Love the driving mate. Not just giving up.
Appreciate someone actually trying
Cheers for watching Darren.
300 series is an overated plastic heap. Way over priced and way average. Better options out there.
Please give us your wisdom
Have you driven one?
These are my thoughts on the 300 series. Can you guys can't handle a bit of criticism?
@@Deatomizer wasn’t being critical of you, just curious if it was an educated and from experience opinion
Whats the feeling about AutoexpertTV pooh poohing pulling a large caravan like this with a 200/300 or Y62 and absolutely caning using any ute...prefers a truck for the job. It seems to me he has a point. Tail wagging the dog and all that.
Great review Rubin.
I found the 300 very noisy in the cab. My big concern is the inter coolers and the position. To use 1 of these as a tourer it would be imperative to have frontal collision protection.
I am a 62 lover however.
Thank you Vaughan.
Can you do Toyota Land Cruiser LC300 vs Nissan Patrol 2023
V8 power, music to my ears, go the mighty Patrol
Hey Dave, Thanks for your patience mate. We will have a video or two coming on the Patrol in the next few weeks.
definitely getting the Y62, the 300 Prado lookalike is a soccer dad car, already have a Prado, trading the 2008 petrol 200 for a y62 obviously with cash adjustment 😂
Weren't you testing in a Sahara ZX? Doesn't that have air suspension? You mention it was going in the shop for suspension upgrade, what did you upgrade it to? I wasn't aware you could change anything on the ZX.
You can check out some of our videos for the 300, Phil.
Great show well done
Alot of information yes it would've been fun out there
Cheers Damien. The day certainly was not planned how it turned out that is for sure!
What’s the exhaust on the y62?
I love the way your not worried about getting things scratched bent or dirty so good to see the real world tests you do that y62 is just an absolute beast
🤤 imagine a harrop turbo and 5 inch snorkel on it
You can't beat the Y62, best overall package...
It is an excellent vehicle. No doubt about that.
That y62 is a bloody snack
Absolutely Charlie
Towing issues when touring revs it’s ducks guts like the Colorado.
Moving around and not as stable as the 200. Then not for me, as my 200 was not such a stable tow vehicle as my FJ wth same caravan. Both cars aftermarket suspensions.
Thanks for sharing @benvisagie8844
Try the Cybertruck when available
Hi , I thought the Test was Great , I just test drove the 300 GXL , I like it , Lane Assist is Ridicules & I'am far from a fan of the 6 Months Servicing . Plenty of Go , Didn't like the GPS Screen Either , Good size , Shocking Colours , I have a DS Ram 1500 .
Thanks for sharing, Gary!
It would be interesting to see things like the 2021+ Isuzu MUX, Ssangyong Rexton, etc doing minor tow tests or 4x4 tests. - all of which offer 4x4 & locking rear diffs among other things.
Stock tyres or not, the 300 should have done much better than that.
It goes to show the mighty Nissan Y62 pulling out the whole shebang is definitely the King!
Eh? You mean that y62 that is a built weapon to a factory car with 20s on road tyres? Is that what you mean
Close your eyes and you’d swear it was the burnout pit at SummerNats!!
haha
The 18 inch tyres and wheels will not fit the 300 because the brakes are too big...
They fit Peter. 17's won't by the looks, but 18's certainly do. We have had 18's on this car.
@@dirtymuddyweekends Thanks mate, that is excellent news.
The 300 series is a kluga and yaris had a baby
Nice Vid. thanks. Any idea what the van puts on the towball. As in ball weight. Thanks.
For more information please feel free to call us on (07) 4630 2369. Thanks!
really surprised how bad the suspension is on the 300? call me weird but when I buy a car for $100k+ I expect not to have to change the suspension.
even on some bitumen sections you are shaking so much its hard to hear you.
We have learnt that it may be better with some additional weight in the car. Still testing this out however.
My heart stopped when he said he wants to cut it into a dual cab
You do the best tow test videos mate. Keep up the good work. By the way,have you finished Greames y62 yet. Would love to see a video on that. Cheers
Thanks mate. Cheers for watching. Yes, Graham has his 62 now. I think a video comes out this week from him on his new car.
@@dirtymuddyweekends Thank you
Great advert for the y62 lol seems like everyone is keen on jumping over to the 300 because it's new and shiny toy lol. I'd be happy to stick with the 200 it's been around a while and the parts and R&D have been done.
It is an excellent vehicle Andy. :)
Can you get your hands on a GR Sport and run it over the same conditions👍.
I test drove the Sahara the other day and thought it seemed too firm on road. It seemed to feel every bump, and the engine seemed to always be in a lower gear - I was so surprised by this. It made me question if it’s for me. I do like a lot of the updates though.
Best to test it out more before you decide, g ride. :)
For gods sake talk about pay;load. Toyota is appalling. At least Patrol has a cheap upgrade to increase it by 180 +-kgs. Us grey nomads want to know towing capacities. Not off road. Nobody in their right minds is going to take a $120,000+++ vehicle very far off road, Its going to be a town car or a tow vehicle. Show us what it can carry (bugger all) and what it can tow. This is the main market for this car. Sorry but just sick of seeing these vids showing 4wd capabilities. Not what the car is being bought for in most cases in my opinion.
I don't know what sort of touring around Australia you do but that mud track up hill loss of traction is an everyday life for my wife and I working and touring Australia, so I think his review was right on the cards as to its capabilities, if you want to know tow capacities grab a brochure of vehicle and towed van and work it out because it's different for everyone due to the unique set ups for every traveller doing their thing
No towing mirrors and no suspension load/sway bars. A critical aspect of any good tow vehicle is it's ability to manage rear down force. Toyota's are poor in standard form which is poor given the price of this monster. I like cruisers I have bought them brand new. But this isn't something I would buy.
YOU SHOULD KNOW THE TRAILER WEIGHT AND LC 300 WEIGHT AND WHAT KIND OF TIRES
日本のランドクルーザー300と海外では、内装が違いますね!!
Gotta admit thoes nissan v8s sound bloody good 👌👌
It does!
Wow, a ZX on stock tyres and road suspension doing so much!!? No wonder my friend is obsessed with his GR-S if a lower spec can do so much. Lovely content mate. Might have to agree this car is an improvement, taking into account it is stock and its potential if tuned, oh my oh my! Might have to look out one for myself...
Thank you very much @AnyPointOfVision :)
I notice that you did not use towing mirrors, surely the standard mirrors do not give the required field of view when towing that van.
No replacement for displacement. No longer a serious 4 wdrive.
Hi mate, I’m getting a VX in the next few months does it come with the wires pre installed?
Corrugations, 20 inch wheels, live axle, highway pressures and towing, of course it is going to skip around.
I know the LC300 is a beast but do people really factor in the suspension upgrades and dual cab conversations, What is the total cost of GVM upgrade and chop to add in canopy ?
Time to fill the tank! - something Shauno should remember :D
Awesome to see you have a channel , Ruben! Wish you all the best!
Cheers mate! Thanks for watching.
At that price and doing the suspension wheels tyres update Will for the new Everest better value
Is the rear chassis of LC300 same to LC200 ??? The question is can I fit Bring towbar from LC 200 on LC300 ???
Waiting for your response
Thanks
Will be interested to see how the 300 comes out once all the mods become available.
When you say "not as good as 200 series or Y62" I would argue that if those were better stock there wouldn't have been so much of a need to modify them.
Will be very interested to see a comparison of 300 and 200 and Y62 once they're all running upgraded suspension, 33s, chassis extension and properly run in.
Nobody likes change, and for those who truly love the 200 or Y62, any change would be mostly unwelcome. When this becomes the new standard the 400 series will be criticized, just as the 200 was in its early days.
Looking forward to seeing more
Totally agree the LC 300 will be a cult car
Y62 is great stock. no mods needed. what mods do you think it needs?
@@kerryottley8116 headlights😁
@@happyjibbi OK will paid that one. Lol
Really, when it all started going wrong, you should have turned around or at least stopped and let your tyres down! And how many times where you front wheels pointing to the side while getting towed straight?
I wish i can have a full screen apple car play and when i use the AC i get the ac info on top give me the option to have full screen apple car play or maps or whatever i want so sad they did that hope they get an update
There is a few quirks on some of the Toyota range with the technology I feel. Not terrible, but small quirks.
How much weight does a bull bar, decent winch and adequate tow bar add to the GVM to pull a 3+ tonne trailer.
It would add around 120kgs Brian. Tow bar is integrated into the chassis.
I will be interested I. How you bypass the electronic front suspension on the ZX
Hey Reuben if all three vehicles cost the exact same then what one would you pick?
Tough question!
Guy in the y62 needed to go another gear, not enough wheel speed
Ruben, you are an entertaining madman!
Please don’t change👍
Cheers Rodney!
Would be awesome if you could put chapters in for each element. Curious to know fuel consumption but I don’t have time to watch it all.
Thanks Mike. Appreciate the feedback. :)
Was looking to buy a LC300, very excited, but after the test drive, all the excitement was out the door. Went and purchase a Y62 instead. Better drive and enormous space inside which is perfect for the family. The LC300 seems like a CX9 inside, too tight.
It's all about finding the right fit for you and your family, isn't it? It sounds like the Y62 ticked all the boxes for you. Enjoy, mate! Cheers!
Well done big fella! Love to see a repeat with the GR Sport. Cheers
The larger wheels and low profile tyres...
Who can drag their 79 on the canopy no problem? Looking forward to the damage report.
Change the driver and the tyres and problem solved! Fancy using road tyres in that situation🤪
Totally underwhelmed after test driving the new 300 GR S yesterday. I presently own 2020 plate 200 series and I was contemplating a 300 series but I will definitely not be making the move.
The 300 sounded and felt like a big tinny version of the 200. I didn't notice a real difference in acceleration and in fact it doesn’t give you the butterfly feeling in the stomach that I get from a heavy acceleration in the 200 V8.
I'm 6'4 inches tall and the seating configuration is absolutely worse than the 200 which I find well suited to myself.
I expected a silky-smooth shift with the new 10 speed auto with all the talk of seamless shifting and extra power but frankly it just wasn’t the case.
I own and operate a small mechanical business with 45 years’ experience as a motor mechanic. The 300 series in my humble opinion is an inferior product with an inferior feel. Sadly a step backwards.