He Said I Couldn't Fish This LOADED Marina, Guess What Happened?
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- He Said I Couldn't Fish This LOADED Marina, Guess What Happened?
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When I was 12 I grew up outside of York Pa. Near my home was a smelly papermill town called Spring Grove. Back in the 70s believe it or not there were no cell phones or Google Earth. But what we did have is a local network of kids on bikes. The legend was that there was a bass pond filled with fish 5 feet long! But it was guarded by an old man who worked for the Gladfelter Papermill. But nobody actually knew where this pond was. As it goes with most urban legends there is a grain of truth in the story. So one day we’re were in the Rutters Farm store buying ice teas and trying to get a peek at the new Playboy Magazine when in walked a crew from the mill. My friend, Mark, asked about this pond and the one old guy said he knew where it was and drew a map for us. He did remind us that it was on the paper mills property and there was a fence around the house and pond. We immediately went home, got our fishing poles tackle box and Schwinn Stingrays loaded up. We followed the stone lane for what seemed to be miles. The gate was unlocked but closed. We rode in and after going past the “haunted house” we found the pond. It even had a rotted dock. We quickly got to fishing and immediately Mark got a hit. He pulled in this big old large mouth. We were stunned, it was TRUE! Suddenly we hear this “HEY ! Get OFF that dock!” Some old man in overalls was walking towards us. We had no where to run. Looks like we are going to jail. Or worse..Telling my dad. He said. “If you wanna fish do it over there, this dock is too dangerous . And are you hungry, my wife can make you peanut butter and jelly if you want.” Turned out he lived in the old “haunted”house and was the care taker of that property that belonged to Gladfelter papermill. He was super cool and his wife was very kind. He even threw our bikes in his pickup and dropped us off at home that evening. Mark and I never told anyone about our secret spot and we fished there every year, and ate PB&Js….
Awesome story!
Thanks for sharing
@@TheLawlessTide my best boyhood memories include fishing.
Yes thanks for sharing that's a great story
@@Notsomuch1 every so often I pass through Spring Grove and I still smile when I pass the entrance to that old gravel road……..
Even if they own the land under the water, if you can access that navigable water from a public area, there is nothing they can do. You are still allowed to fish it. Call the DNR.
I really like your attitude. Being polite to people and releasing fish are the best ways to represent the fishing community.
Thanks
They steal my bait I eat them and I am part of the fishing community
It's a good way to go home with nothing.
Explanation?
I catch them to eat. Duh.
They may own the land but not the waterways unless it’s enclosed by their property.
I used to go out at Cape May New Jersey for flounder in the 90's . The Miss Chris with Captain Fred Ascoli. ( Hope I spelled his name right) Always caught fish! Once he couldn't find any flounder and took us out to a ship wreck. I caught a 5.5lb Sea Bass and won the pool money! He was the best Captain!
Thats awesome
Nice fishing spots , those fish you were catching, look like our brim we have here in Australia, but with out the stripes , good job 👍🇦🇺
Thank you!
It's spelt bream.
Catching those sheepheads Reminds me of my childhood days when my dad would take us to the Ft Desoto bridge. Good times.
Mr. Lawless,
If these marinas do not pay the property taxes on the ocean floor and you can fish, would you also be able to drop a kayak-friendly crab trap or two, while you’re fishing?
Excellent content sir. Thank you.
Sam
That would be a question for someone with more knowledge than me Sir. Thank you for watching.
It doesn't matter if they pay taxes for land under water you can float and fish.
Don't argue with me argue with florida state statutes, I looked it up and read it word for word.
@@TheLawlessTide they don't own the public water.🤣
Im just telling you what the law says.
@@duckwacker8720actually they do according to the law regardless of what you believe
@@TheLawlessTidexxiii
Great job man. Love that you keep your reactions and mess ups in the videos. Makes it real cause we all do them when fishing. Great channel. We do same in ours after all we’re all human. Keep up the great work.
Thank you very much
I love the channel and the content but seriously recommend you not wear waders on a kayak , that is a recipe for tragedy
Have you watched this video yet?
DEATHTRAP or Fishing Myth? What Really Happens If You Fall In Wearing Waders!
ruclips.net/video/ab4E3KyjFYA/видео.html
Waders in a kayak in 25 degree weather. Tree was over whole river about 2 feet. Eventually got sucked under the log capsized and the waders almost killed me. Thank god I was a great swimmer (college d3)but damn was it near the death of me
@@jooj5235i dont fish rivers, i make clear in the wader video that i do not fish swift current. Waders can act like a parachute in swift current. But in no or slow current i could swim for hours if i had to.
I almost didn't make it with a pair of cowboy boots one time. @jooj5235
@@jooj5235sounds like you wearing wearing a belt. A belt is crucial when fishing in waders
This fishing spot is truly a gem! Abundant with a variety of fish species, it offers anglers an unparalleled experience. The serene ambiance and plentiful catch make it a haven for fishing enthusiasts
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are you fishing the "bay" side of Alligator Point at the marina? My sister and I have rented houses here on Alligator and Bald Point, Florida. Both nice areas to vacation.
Your getting a lot of bird friends watching you from Klamath Falls Oregon
Awesome, thanks for watching!
Love that bumper rig on your truck!!!!!
Thanks, its handy!
By "Sheepshead's" , don't you mean "Bait Thieves"🤣🤣🤣
They are that for sure!
@@TheLawlessTidethey're very tasty we have them where I am on the Mississippi Coast and that's one of the fish I really enjoy catching cleaning and eating.
There's a reason they're called convict's
@@mitchbrown2301 You can see them looking up thinking "Hey guys , free food" 🐟🐟🐟
What brand split shot do you use? I like the ones I order from England best, do you use a line twist spritz? If so whos do you recommend?
Love your video
I miss saltwater fishing but living in Wisconsin you don't get to saltwater fish like in N.C were I came from.
Thanks for the videos
Thank you and i hope you get to saltwater fish again
"I hope you get eaten."
As a guy who loves fishing rivers with crayfish, i can totally relate to that.
😂😂😂
No one owns the water!!! Period
I wish that were true. It should be that way.
@@TheLawlessTide what state is this? Sorry I didn't ask.
@@Yakmandave florida
No one can own navigable waterways.
Non navigable water ways are privately owned. Marinas can work their way into a non navigable waterway but that’s usually only if they purchase land and dredge it to make the marina. If they just build docks, it’s fair game 95% of the time
@@trevorturk7473 all true
When did he say you COULD NOT? I believe he said they don’t like. That’s a very big difference.
He said "they don't allow that" exactly.
You statement would be accurate if it were true.
@@TheLawlessTide @2.50 he said they don’t want people in their.
@ronprince1478 wrong he said "they don't want people hitting boats with lures"
@ronprince1478 we can argue all day, everytime you comment it makes youtube push the video out more. So im all for it.
I'd say if there are pelicans there, there are probably fish. Looks like a really nice place to fish. Those sheepsheads are really neat looking fish. Good on you for catch and release.
Thanks for watching
love the setup on the front of your truck
Thanks
Can’t believe you were down on the true forgotten coast. That’s my old fishing grounds.
Thats cool
I snorkeled under a pier in Freeport, Bahamas. It was loaded with good sized fish and preditors
Those sheep head are wyle guys.... Fish the sea wall on the north side of hillsborough inlet. I caught sheep's head.Almost the size of garbage can lids.
Thanks
Good times! That one sheep was a beast!
Thanks
Really enjoyed the content have a good day and stay safe Jimmy from North Attleboro Massachusetts
Thank you very much!
helluva front fishing bumper :)
Thanks, i love it!
Deerfield Manufacturing makes the best ones in the business!
FISH ON !! 🤠
Well the new kayak looks good with the mount and all
Thanks!
Nice spot..
Looks fun
It is!
Ya got them good on the second day by the marina.
i would love a day of landing so many fish. beautiful area and a fun time. a fine day indeed.
I dunno about your rules in US, but if you are accessing the water from private land there would be a problem if you did not have permission, I know for instance that you have private beaches, which we (uk) do not.
No one can own land under the water, the land belongs to us all/ the people ! A marina can own the land up to the high tide water mark, don't let people BS you ok.
Look it up, its actual florida law. Its their in black and white.
You are thinking of a beach this is completely different.
A strange ‘old bird is the pelican, his beak can hold more than his belly can. In his beak he holds enough food for a week and I don’t know how in the Hell he can.
In the words of the immortal Humpty Hump:
"Humpin', funkin', jumpin'
Jig around, shakin' ya rump
And when a doo-doo chump punk points a finger like a stump
Tell him step off, I'm doin' the Hump!"
Sorry, I couldn't resist...🙄😏
I got a laugh at pelicans jumping to get some of your catch and release.
Yeah they are sneaky turds
Thats a new one. They own the land under the water..😂 irrelivant.
Nice sheepies!!! What kind of boots are you wearing on your kayak?
Thanks, just boat boots.
Does it hurt the fish when you hook them !!!
Just kidding lol awesome video that spot was definitely good for sure
Thanks Ray!
But just for conversation mebbe it do hurt but their 30 bit memory cap put it right out their teeny minds.....mebbe😕
Is that Alligator Point Marina? I've slayed down there. Was cast netting off the seawall for bait and ruined it when I landed on a big ugly.
Yeah thatll wreck a net😂
Where in florida do you fish, and do you ever teach fishing? We went to the pier to fish, and I just ended up feeding them.
I normally fish the panhandle area. Sorry don't do lessons but i do have a lot of instructional videos on youtube.
You can get military maps free from the library of congress these are excellent maps for finding out of the way fishing holes
Thanks, great suggestion.
Cool, have you ever knocked your camera/tripod into the drink ? i was worried when you caught that fish sheepshead at the opening that you were going to have to retrieve your gear.
Yes i have unfortunately
The worst thing is when people ask you not to fish around their docks/ piers. As long as I’m not touching your pier / boat , I’m not doing anything wrong. Why do these arrogant a-holes think they own the water ?
No thy own the world. Didnt you get the memo?
Apparently there are several commentors here who are lawyers that have passed the bar in all 50 states. Well i'd love what they say to be true i'd like to see how their arguments would work out for them in court in a state that has the laws written the way you say it is in florida. Everybodys a tough guy on the internet
I know its hilarious. I only debate woth them because it makes youtube push the video out more. 98% of the people arguing don't even live in Florida😂
@TheLawlessTide I hear ya, I don't live I Florida either but I have lived in areas where people have owned up to half way out on creeks. I wish it wasn't so but I think you played it right, id still fish there too unless someone asked me to leave then move along. Keep up the good videos and tight lines
@user-sq4ve5vh2o thanks man.
If its not a private marina then you should be able to fish it from the shore as long as its not posted "No Fishing'. Some public marinas around here don't allow it due to the boat traffic in the area (its pretty obvious when you see all the boats) and all the boat traffic is probably spooking the fish anyway.
When you start to miss them. Stop and sharpen them hooks
Most marinas in europe do not allow any fishing.
Glad i live here, some of the best fishing is in marinas.
A lot of them are socialists and everything is regulated
What kayak and peddles are you using?
Hobie lynx
You should look into a finger/thumb protector for handling fish. Pick them up by the chin and take the hook out. Stop risking getting finned.
You stick your finger in a sheepshead mouth you are gonna have some crushed bones.
Great communications with the guy in the area BUT, you're throwing away dinner.
I fish 4-6 days a week i can't keep fish every trip.
@nnnjh8372 I'm not talking about every fish. I am talking about ones that will make a meal.
Ask you magic 8 Ball another question.
great vidio. question? I always thought that you can't own the water. your thoughts thank you.
Its a weird deal in Florida. If you pay taxes on the land under docks or in a marina basin that you dredged out yourself then technically you can not allow people to access that water. Its a very confusing and gray area for sure.
Gonna be in the Destin area this weekend? Me and a friend are going out
Good luck!
Have you ever caught a jubilee in the Mobile Bay?
No i havent but some of my buddies have
"Marina's".... I've dealt w/ this most of my life & it's a big deal in fresh water too... lol, anywhere boats are stored or you pay for a slip
you'll find this problem. Even w/ people who own waterfront property want to move you off. The biggest problem is theft & I really
understand their concern but I'm not a thief. I tried it but had too much of a conscious & after I told on myself I simply didn't do it
anymore. Having said all that, these overzealous owners along w/ their security operate to run folks off. Fishermen & brazen bad
guys will challenge them & for the most part the cops will make you leave or come up w/ a "line" that you can't cross. Hey, did you
say you research places using various "Apps" to help you pick spots? That would be a good video to see, new fresh content that
shows how you might approach a location to fish using your PC & Apps together = what you look for in a prime spot? I'm happy
w/ all I've seen but it's a topic some might like? So might be the ways you catch the bait you use, if you catch your own?
As I said, I like what you already do here but when I see a box of fiddler crabs I wonder if you caught them. thanks man
peace
95% of the time i buy my fiddler crabs. Thank you for watching.
You tried being a thief please tell us more did you stop before or after getting caught?
IT's true Northstar, in about 1977 I stole out of a Seniors Apartment storage area..... I got a set of silverware, camera,
and a case of vintage early 1900's wine/liquor. After 2-3 days I told on myself, my parents called cops, and I gave all
of it back EXcept the case of wine - I thought the neighborhood kids should be shared with.... lol, as for marina's, I've
done security around one so I've seen them come in on boats to loot other boats. Lots of them come as fishermen &
I hate stealing. I'd help someone to eat/clothe or give them a ride but stealing normally is part of a much bigger issue
like drinking or addictions. As for my career in theft, it was short & I leaned that it ate at my subconscious so I was
cured early on. Everyone takes sH!T at least once & some never stop until police are involved. I know you've been
thru it as well - I do digg your empathy ~ peace man
@user-dv7hb2sc9m Well, at least it shows you have a conscience & we all make mistakes but sometimes people don't let you forget those mistakes. Peace out ✌️
Yes Northstar, there are things that happen where another will not let it go. Unfortunately that's gonna be a family
member or close friend to the family & the reasons that people don't forgive can be many but from where I sit the
crap that got taken was just that, "Crap". BTW, crap can be gold/money or the car & I call it crap b/c replacement
is generally not too hard whereas you can't replace a family member. If you grew outta whatever the issue w/ them
was then you go straight forward doing the best ya can & if they want to hold onto old sH!T, after a while of their
hanging on it literally can make people sick inside but you aren't the cause & if you got it together then that's all
you can do. I still have a couple of cousins who're so greedy over an Uncle's wealth & their fear I might get some
that they spend most their lives trying to down me.... lmao, I don't even think I'm on his will but they're letting it
drive them mad....... let them drive themself mad & I was the black sheep - Do well -n- live right and all those
around you will see it in you. The naysayers will see it as well but no amount of lies can take good away just
because you acted foolishly in the past. It's over/done with ~ peace & GB You/yours
u,mmm what boats in the marina?
I don't know much about fishing but what you wanna run a lighter leader than your main line
For finicky fish that are leader shy.
what Kayak do you use?
Hobie lynx
Nice fishing. What cameras do you use to record
Thanks. A DJI Osmo Action and a gopro 10
As long as not posted no trespassing or no fishing other than that you are allowed to fish
If you are on the water (boat or kayak) no fishing signs have no legal bearing.
I mean this is just not true but......u do you. If you're on the water in a boat or kayak like the other reply mentions, yes, correct.
@@egomaniac247 if you are on a public waterway no business can stop you from fishing. In florida if they tried to do that it would actually be a crime.
www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2011/379.105#:~:text=Harassment%20of%20hunters%2C%20trappers%2C%20or%20fishers.&text=(1)%20A%20person%20may%20not,or%20nongame%20animals%20by%20another.
@@TheLawlessTideAgreed, I was replying to the other guy.
@@egomaniac247 i gotcha now. Wasnt sure.
Big nice Marinas do own the water under them unfortunately. Underwater land lease. They don't want you hitting boats and breaking off. I was fishing in the daytona halifax marina where a TON of tarpon are and got kicked out by the dockmaster FROM BOAT. I was like 16 pretty pathetic to kick a kid out fishing. They didn't have any signage at all and don't need it.
They only own the water area if they dredged it and pay taxes on it. Definitely not all big marinas do that. A lot of times they just try to bully you and hope you just believe them. Especially a young kid similar to your experience.
@@TheLawlessTide Yea this marina did. They had an underwater land lease I asked around. That means they bought the rights to the basin. If its got houseboats and yachts your not fishing in it lol I swore you could fish anywhere a boat can take you but thats not the case. I've been kicked out of 2 marinas with this on there side.
@@davecfishing7907that sucks man
See it in writing. Could be just word of mouth saying that.
It appears that this is a storage marina and not occupied by live-aboards. No problem fishing in this marina. I used to live on my vessel in a marina. I always hated it when some guy thought it was ok to fish in my backyard. I think most people would think it rude if some stranger showed up at your home and felt entitled to fish outside your front door. Another reason we don't like people fishing next to our boats is because a lot of these guys make a lot of noise and disrupt the peace of our homes. Plus, it's not really smart because a lot of liveaboards don't go to the pump-out to empty their waste tanks. Not everyone is responsible and many simply dump their crap in the marina water. At least he throws the fish back because eating them could be harmful to your health. It is also a stupid place to swim, not only because of the pollution but because of the stray electrical current that occurs in the water when shore power cords end up hanging in the water. More than one person has been electrocuted from swimming in a marina.
1. I follow all laws and regulations.
2. Thats like living in an apartment and calling the parking lot your back yard, ITS NOT YOUR PROPERTY!
3. Whats rude is your sense of entitlement that you own the water.
Excellent...another sheepshead video!!
I can't tell if you are serious or sarcastic, lol.
@@TheLawlessTide Both, lol. I am a huge kayak fisherman on Lake Michigan for 6 years now and I love both fishing and your videos. Your voice is just so calming. I have made sarcastic comments in the past about all of you sheepshead video as there are a lot of other type of fish in Florida. I also have a place in South Florida and have also been kayak fishing in the region for the past 6 years so I am aware of all of the different variety of fish...cobia, tarpon, snook, mackerel and more. Why you spend so much time with reds and sheeps is beyond me BUT, don't stop being you! Big fan.
@arnoldlueders7500 i just target whatever is biting, in winter there are no pelagics so sheeps, reds and black drum are the most prominent species to catch. Thanks for watching.
Is alligator point 3 hours from Panama city?
That sounds about right.
@TheLawlessTide man I thought it was closed, but I checked it and was surprised. I may be down i
In the boarder next week. Been a minute since I've dipped my line in the salt water. Get the kayak out and see if I can get on some Pompano
What kinda kayak do you use in the water
Hobie lynx
one that floats
@@user-cd9gk7lj9p nah really dumbass
Tulsa is here again….any plans of buying an offshore boat?
Nahh, too much money and maintenance.
Get a book up from your State and game commission.And tell you went and where you can fish that way, no calories can give you any b.S
Are sheephead good eating??
Oh yeah
if you can legally fish there, why would you leave just because some goon tells you no ?
I didnt leave
You should watch the video
@@TheLawlessTide I thought you left and came back the next day late to avoid the guy.
I didnt leave because he told me i couldnt kayak fish in the marina. I stayed and fished from the sea wall after that.
Docks have pet fish. you catch and release so no bid deal. its when people try to keep them it gets testy.
FISH ARE NOT PETS RETARD
And those pet fish are delicious when you cook them correctly
Or tasty.
Can you eat the oysters?
I wouldnt.
Ok… even though they own the land… they don’t own water…. So they can’t run you out…. You are not touching the land!!! Soooooo you can be there because you are on water NOT LAND!
Exactly
Are you related to Bill Dance ?
😂😂😂
Why don't you keep your good fish to eat?
Might rethink letting the fish lay on the concrete. Pulling any scales off the fish isnt healthy for em.
You are welcome to come hold the fish for me.
You need a bigger boat obviously.
Why? When I’m on the water I usually outfish the full-size boats. My results speak for themselves, and I don’t have to buy gas.
Those sheepshead are the best fish to eat. 😊
Very tasty!
Hey, man I enjoy your videos but I have a little advice. Be very careful wearing those boots while kayaking. If you fall in the will fill up with water and pull you down.
@toddhatten354 i guess you didnt watch my video where i proved that old wives tale wrong. ruclips.net/video/ab4E3KyjFYA/видео.htmlsi=Mlnqh3R8K3MpL7TU
Thanks for watching
sharpen your hooks? less misses.
Christ bless!
You must not sheedshead fish, lol.
Circle hooks
??
Cant see any point to fishing if you're not going to take them home to eat
Glad im not you
It's called sportfishing
try that to the armed fisherman
pls ware a pfd when on the water
Its not your business but i was.
Most states and provinces (that's a canadian version of a state) require pfds on board for each person. The requirement to wear it is ... not a requirement.
Did you catch the same fish twice, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
That isn't that funny. Maybe one haha
@@TheLawlessTide great viewing, I'm 62 was given a 13ft rod a while ago, after watching you I'm going to try fishing never done it before, now that deserves a few ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Cheers for the inspiration.
@chriswinter2725 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, good luck, lol!
Get rid of the kayak and get a twin troller much more comfortable check em out
Uh no thanks. 175 pounds with zero gear or motor? That would be fun dragging down the beach😂
S U P P E R 😋
I just do not know I'm 🤔😳🤯 about fishing in America if America say use are a Christian country then wot did Jesus say about fishing ??? I say no body owns the water & air 👍✌️❤️from🇦🇺💪
"You can't fish here!!"
What are you? The god of the fish? screw off mate.
What you say your fishing my god that’s terrible haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
??
Navigatable water. The end.
Never fish in a marina, the snags and fishing lines getting looped in props is not something the boat owners would like.
👎🏼ive caught some of my biggest fish in marinas. Thats no different than saying don't fish docks.
@@TheLawlessTide sure, fish abandoned docks.
No one cares what you want as boat owner. I, as a car driver, would rather you all take the bus, but that's not how the world works.
Then maybe those boat owners should stop use the marina. Unless it is against the law, I don't give two cents WHAT boat owners like and don't like.
@@user-tp4ym7wu9w and that’s why they get pissed at you. I awn a boat and I fish and never under my own dock.
Releasing fish? Why... if you don't want to eat or sell them, why catch them... are you waiting for better fish? Or are you just torturing them for no reason...
Because it's a right
Unbelievable, how many of these little weasels don’t like it when you fish around them
😂😂😂
The disgruntled guy is on dope.
I think he just didnt want anyone fishing his spot, lol.
Nobody fishes land under the water.
If they pay taxes on the land under the water then they have a right to prevent you from fishing those waters in florida.
@@TheLawlessTide absolute stupidity anywhere. Nobody pays taxes on the water.
@shawnmorgan4158 florida law, look it up. Its not tax on the water. Its tax on the land under water. They will tax air if someone will pay it.
@@TheLawlessTide crazy bro. I think they just don't like fishing. Anything to get money through taxes.
If they own the the marina on the water how can you go on their property and fish. You're not in the water fishing. You're on their property and fishing. Can't they just trespass you from going on their propertie with law enforcement.
I wasnt on their property at all. I was next to the marina. I asked him about kayak fishing inside the marina.
@TheLawlessTide Most counties these days have a public GIS parcel map/database that provides all the public info for each parcel of land (owner, property boundaries, taxes, ect.). might help in your research 😉