Doctor Pummels Fox Hosts Into Submission On Medicare For All
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Medicare for All is the future.
Inevitably. Oh yes.
Yess baby yes. Its my number one issue in the US. America has a chance to show the world they can create the best modernized Single payer system. Lets get it done.
JumpinJimmie YASSS
And always will be. Most democrats still oppose it, including most of those running for the nomination right now.
DubstepPhiL Completely wrong. Look at the amount of progressives who have entered Congress in the past year alone - around 40 of them? The vast majority supports Medicare for All. Inevitably, this amount is going to INCREASE with time. Don’t get pessimistic because that’s what leads to failure.
But what about Ben Shapiro's wife?
Venezuela?
Communism?
OWNED!!!
GoMunIZM*****
Bam!!
GYOTT EEEEM
@IceXnk6 haha great point. "free market healthcare" I know right.... what a ridiculous argument.
POR QUEEEEE??????? those damn commies!!!!!
This boomer pulling the "soviet" card for anything that helps anyone but the rich
I thought it was hilarious how he pulled that out. His thought process must be that if he says the word "soviet" enough it'll negate any logical argument.
Soviet demonization useful when attacking liberals. Soviet celebration acceptable when it supports their cause (Trump). Major lulz
Anecdotal evidence vs hard data
Yeah, the actual Soviet system only benefited the elites at the expense of the working class. That's the exact opposite of helping anyone but the rich.
@@robbiep742 When the hell does any Trump supporter celebrate the soviet union? Literally 100% of the people who still support the Soviet Union in this day and age are leftist.
"Well, you're a doctor and clearly more qualified and educated then I ever will be. But I have to fulfill my political agenda, so I'll just talk over you more loudly."
It's the conservative way. Say it over and over, louder and louder. The bad part is, a lot of people will start to believe it, because of that. Damned the facts.
did the host just say he knows a country very well because his wife was there for a month?
Conservatives love anecdotes
Yep. Welcome to the USA, where you can be as dumb and deceitful as you want on national "news" AND get away with it!
@Mike Byrne I can just hear Ben Shapiro's voice in that quote.
That's enough experience as far as the faux news audience is concerned. Including the person in the oRal office.
One Hospital One Month
they probably sent them to that particular hospital, because they were hateful, right wing Americans.
I'm from the UK and yes our NHS is suffering atm because the damn tories (our right wing party) have cut massive amounts of funding from social services.
That said, I wouldn't ever want to get rid of it, I legitimately feel secure in the fact that I know if I do get seriously ill, I won't be financially burdened.
red most of our bankruptcies in America are due to medical costs. Someone goes ill and has to declare bankruptcies and the majority of those people have insurance. It’s disgusting
“A country I know very well because my wife was there for a month” this just shows you the level of intelligence of this network
Especially spending it in hospital
And its cult devotees
When didn't she go private and pay for it
Geoff Priestley what?
@@gash8995 I think he meant.... Why
Here’s an anecdotal story: I was in Canada fell outside of a night club (drunk and ice) went to ED was there for 45 minutes had an X-ray drugs and out the door. Here’s another one I got bit by a feral dog in Texas in the back of my calf. Had to drive 4 hours to an ED that accepted my insurance sat in a waiting room for 4.5 hours was seen for 15 minutes sent back to waiting room for 3 hours then given meds and sent home... I had to flush and irrigate to wound myself using my previous knowledge as a medic. Thanks America
Amen Joe, I moved to the States 12 years ago from Canada and let me tell you, going through the health care system here has been BY FAR the worst experience and my biggest frustration since living here. Having to constantly argue about bills that were coded incorrectly at the moment of treatment, misunderstandings, hidden costs, unnecessary x-rays to charge up my insurance, this is covered but not that, the list goes on and on. Healthcare should never be about profit and it's about time a major change happens in that field.
Canada's healthcare isn't the best. They will only fix the problems as a last resort. Waits for surgeries are crazy long. Day to day medical needs are fine, but there are still long waits for virtually everything. Not to mention, it's illegal to go to a private (for cost) clinic in Canada. I think a regulated mix of public and private works the best. But my back/legs will never recover from my wait, sadly.
Live And Inspired
90% of Canadians like their system. Are you Canadian?
Critical Mass I am a 57 year old Canadian in my life less than 100 dollars spent on hospitals visits in my life Broken ankle , surgery at 21 son broke his arm twice and a surgery with pins a , sent to a special children’s surgeon two births and mother on life support for a week before the end of her life .... the Canadian system is fantastic.... and never a bill . Optional procedures take longer
Ben Blasdell I agree with Ben. I’ve been to the ER three times and never waited more than 30 minutes each time. I’m from Alberta. 🇨🇦
“My wife is a doctor”
- Ben Shapiro
Well I won't be making an appointment with Dr. Shapiro.
"actually my wife is Venezuela" - Been Shapiro
This doctor spoke nearly as quickly as Shapiro but with no lies
@@jeremymerrifield7244 LOL...You have to speak fast on Fox or you won't get your points across. They'll keep cutting you off.
They want to put my wife in chains!
*my wife was there a month so she knows more than you, a doctor*
*or the people who live there and polled in favor of their system*
I cane to the comments for this comment
I also highly doubt anyone died in that ward from penicillin immune bacteria. Lmfao. Preposterous.
Dude if I was in his place and heard that I would have literally said "are you fucking serious right now" lol
@@GHotSauceAnd1 LOL
"My wife was there for a month.
Where I took her to a hospital there instead of here in America"
She had a stroke in the uk
"Without a free market, how do I compare prices?"
With Universal healthcare, you don't have to.
Its the fact they cant feel good about making their own choice that seems to make them so upset.
If customers are indifferent to costs, what do you suppose will happen to prices? Pick up an Econ textbook please.
snex it doesn’t matter. You don’t have to pay it out of pocket.
But to answer your question, the government controls the prices, then pays the bill. It’s pretty fuckin simple, even for a genius like you.
How do you compare prices now? Hospital makes up a number after you've been treated
@@creativeUtubehandle the existence of public healthcare and the existence of private healthcare providers are not mutually exclusive. Australia is a good example of both public and private systems working together to give the people both options and affordability
"The United Kingdom a country I knew very well because my wife was there for a month."
Never change Fox News. Never change.
I'm calling complete bull-shit on even that. "Filthy" London hospitals?? Wtf?
@@opheliabawles9646 well as much as I love the NHS, it saddens me what the Tories have done to it in the past 9 years. The equipment is old, the system is underfunded and overburdened. The staff is overworked and the waiting times are huge. Something needs to change in the uk to return to a good NHS system
@@alfa8728 l know about that, and l have no doubt that some outsourced private cleaning service is cutting corners.
I think the real issue is that they didn't wheel in all the machines that go "ping" like they do in his expensive fancy private hospital back in the US.
The problems in the NHS have to the most part come down to the idealology of moving services to a private system, the irony. Public/private services Fox news should LOVE them.
If they do well the private companies make bank
If they fuck up the private companies make bank AND the tax players foot the bill to fix it.
I couldn't help think that is something Trump would've said.
He loves his anecdotes!
I'm from the UK and this guy is downright lying about the healthcare in my country.
Yeah, that's what they're paid for. $$$
/sarcasm THINK ABOUT HIS WIFE... SHE WAS THERE FOR A MONTH!!!!! HE IS YOUR KING NOW!!!!
Dr. Gaffney is a beast 😂. He served it up hott!
No you're not you g$#&w
liar!
Thank you William for speaking up. People who are ignorant are easily fooled by subjective personal experience. More people like you need to speak up!
I love the doctor’s smug face. He knows he’s killing it!
I'd rather be treated in a dirty hospital for free than die at home because I can't afford $500 for an ambulance.
A dirty free hospital that provides a better service at that.
same
Obviously. But why do you think socialism is a choice between bad and worse? You're being fooled if you think genuine socialism simply means the centralization of capitalism's least and most avaricious options.
I live in Australia where we have socialised medicine. The system is that we pay a certain percentage of our tax goes to what we call Medicare and you have the choice of also paying into a health fund but the the health fund is not for profit. You can then work out what treatments you want covered or not covered. Somethings are covered automatically Hospital and Ambulance for example. 5 months ago had a heart attack taken to hospital had two stents inserted and various tests taken as well. Spent three days in hospital before going home. The hospital I was in was a public hospital before I left was given some medications to take and scripts for renewal. Total cost to me NIL. I did get Ambulance bill but sent that to my Health Fund and was paid by them. Also here you do have choice of Drs and can move from one Dr to another at no penalty. I have just retired and the costs of my medications has been reduced by 60% as part of your health scheme.
Johann Popper socialised healthcare works here in the uk. It’s one of the only things that’s cherished by both sides. Except the Tory government
Wow Bernie needs to hire this guy
Maybe secretary of Health and Human services.
This guy can article everything pretty well. I'm shocked he was allowed to have a serious discussion at faux news.
@@the0ne809 It's crazy how FBN can be so stupid as to think that their people won't get owned if and when they invite a doctor who knows their shit
His YT channel just posted a vid of this doctor, actually.
Nah, RoseAnn DeMoro, a nurse and leader of the National Nurses Union, has been with Bernie since 2015, she should be HHS Secretary
Can we have this doctor go on every news network to talk about Medicare for all? Bernie also needs to hire him.
tallflguy Going on Fox is the biggest challenge. Whether he’ll get invited again is another matter.
Hire him for what?
Then they'll say that he was just a Bernie shill and should not be trusted unlike Trump Russia Tower
Actually, Bernie Sanders' YT channel used these same clips in a video they released soon after this aired.
right?! usually people are yelling by the time it gets to the question about cost. it usually doesn't go well because big media turns it into a shouting match....he kept his calm and shut them down with facts
I simply don’t believe that guy who bashed the UK hospital.
His wife was in private hospital, not in NHS one. www.spirehealthcare.com/
@@duhni4551 Which is, presumably,why she didn't receive first-class treatment.
Obviously...
@@richardsmart9331 Who knows. There are no standards in commercial hospitals, you get what you pay for so to speak.
Welsh Ed, he may have had that experience although it sounded exaggerated. That is what these conservatives always do though. They cherry pick. The overall statistics show US health care is not doing great. So what they do is cherry pick certain types of cancer treatment where the US does well and use that to create a narrative suggesting ALL use health care is better. Truth is that when you look at different conditions. What is the best country for that care varies a lot. And in particular with respect to antibiotics resistance the US is not particularly good. From living a year in the US it was pretty clear to me that antibiotics is overused in the US. They prescribe it for the smallest thing.
There is a large variation in how different hospitals are in any given country. And how the building looks is not necessarily a reflection of how good the hospital is. You can find some pretty run down hospitals in the US as well. I have personally had good experience with US hospitals apart from the whole billing and payment: my God what complexity and mess. It is very clear why the US health care system has such a large number of bureaucrats and office workers. All theses different insurance companies and hospitals makes the whole thing really complex and paper heavy.
I was in a UK hospital and it was spotless, the staff were fantastic. No charge. That guy is lying.
Grandpa is dying let's compare prices on heart surgery that's needed in two days. Oh boy can't wait to deal with that. 🧐
"Why can't hospitals work like auto insurance?"
I'm sorry ma'am but we're gonna have to total your baby
LOL
Auto insurance companies suck. Can you say Farmers?
Well, to get a car registered, you have to have car insurance in almost every state due to state laws... Yet they took the same requirement for health insurance out of "Obama"care. They don't even think about their metaphors.
Damn.
Costs to keep the baby alive exceed the cost of the baby. Brilliant!
I know the UK very well, I lived there for a few hours during a layover.
I know the UK even better. I've seen lots of Dr. Who
I'm from the UK, what the doctor said about our NHS being like a national religion is true.
The problem with the nhs is the fucking tories aren’t funding it to run it down so they can privatise it the cunts
So his wife was in a NHS hospital for a month you would think a right winger like him would be in private care away from us common pebs no just take the free shit.
Heck, I am literally the king of England for crying out loud. I watch British football every week!
"How do you expect doctors to pay off their school loans with less pay?"
Allow me to segue into the exorbitant costs of higher education...
“ my wife spent a month in the U.K. so I’m an expert when it comes to the U.K.” lol
I spent six months in the USA with a kidney stone and got fleeced for $ 10,800.00 , bloody leeches! I,m from Scotland , hospital closing??? What a load of piss !
Lies and more lies to justify your crooked lies ! Your twisted and a bunch of liers ! Fox news? The fiction channel ! Lying bastards !
The host talking about the UK was flat out lying. Health care in the UK is rated far higher than in the US on every matrix.
Metric?
@@diabl2master Yes, I was thinking the same thing. For fun, I will just post the google definition of Matrix, and we can pick which ever we find the most fun.
1.the cultural, social, or political environment in which something develops.
2. a mass of fine-grained rock in which gems, crystals, or fossils are embedded.
3. a mould in which something, such as a record or printing type, is cast or shaped.
4. a rectangular array of quantities or expressions in rows and columns that is treated as a single entity and manipulated according to particular rules.
5. an organizational structure in which two or more lines of command, responsibility, or communication may run through the same individual.
I would personally pick the mould, but I have no reason to give as to why.
Bernie 2020: #MedicareForAll #CancelStudentDebt
Rise up gamers
I know everything about England. I ate fish and chips, once.
😂😂😂
Fish and chips is a most enlightening meal to be fair.
His logic makes no sense! I had fish and chips Saturday.
Thats like saying i know how everything about I had take out last night.
I called my friend mate once so you can trust me when I say the roadways in England are hard to navigate.
I love the guy who is like “well I had a bad experience in a UK hospital once, how will you keep that from happening?” Sir, do you know what anecdotal evidence is?
That shit should go down as "Things that never really happened"
Fox news: invites expert on to talk about a subject
Also Fox news: "I'm the expert here, no matter the subject!"
Fox News is not a news channel. It is an entertainment channel.
The debate is over. The right has lost.
When has the right ever been correct?
I don't know a single issue the right has ever been on the right side of history on
How so?
@@Humanistic_ there are many
@@whyamimrpink78 like?
I'm amazed they didn't suddenly have to go to commercial break
The host thought that 5vs1 was a sure win. He was wrong. They messed with the wrong guy.
This is like a scene from a Bruce Lee movie where 4 people try and jump him all at once and still get absolutely demolished.
why do all the hosts sound like they’re going to cry
"I left my wife in a filthy hospital where everyone was dying, for a whole month."
He did his best to scare the shit out of all the old viewers!
too funny! 😝😈
I mean some people do die in hospitals because they're hospitals, like, what
Hahaha I just read this as he was saying that 😅 I spit my beer out laughing
He must really hate his wife.
They called Medicare for all 'Soviet'. So intellectually dishonest.
His argument went out the window once he mentioned that
Devoid of Intellect you mean
The political strategy of "Just throw in some scary buzzwords that'll trick the older majority of voters that doesn't pay attention into giving us the vote" has got about 5 years left max the way I see it. If only millennials would actually turn out to vote, could've been 15 years ago.
@@itsthem5699 hell, I hope that by 2021 we're moving in a better direction. I see all of the retirements as a good sign.
Theyre using “Soviet” to mean centralized and operated by the federal government. The USSR employed an economic/political system in which (at least nominally) every industry was under the umbrella of a central national authority.
I'm just here chilling and laughing in German
And when that host wife who was in hospital for a month when she lift the hospital was she given a bill for $60,000 NO
"Why can't I call around to hospitals and find out who's the cheapest?"
"Grandpa's having a stroke! Start calling hospitals and see who'll give us the best deal."
I wish I could up-vote this ten times..... Thank you for providing such a great comment,... I'm still laughing.....
A stroke isn't a heart attack. Stroke victims generally have a 24 hour window within which they make a full recovery. You shouldn't need 24 hours to find out the cheapest provider unless you're we're talking about a low IQ shill like yourself, Mark S.
@@IndianPrince04 You must have terrible EQ because you missed the obvious sarcasm, boomer
@Triple J Designs wrote "The American medical insurance industry is evil & ONLY want your money."
What does *every* form of an insurance industry want? Free puppies for everyone? -world peace? They're a *business* . If they couldn't turn a profit, they couldn't exist. And apparently people *want* and *need* them to exist, because very few Americans have the ability to go to the hospital for something critical to their health and survival, and pay thousands out-of-pocket when coming back out. So what do you propose we have instead? -the government provide "free" healthcare (i.e., provide healthcare for people who *aren't* paying into the system, through taxing everyone more)? Because there really isn't a viable third option.
@@IndianPrince04 -- I'm sorry to have to point it out, *but you're completely mistaken* . Study after study have highlighted how critical immediate care is to stroke victims. The average number of neurons in the human forebrain is 22 billion. In patients experiencing a typical large vessel acute ischemic stroke (which is about 85% of all stroke events), 120 million neurons, 830 billion synapses, and 714 km (447 miles) of myelinated fibers are lost *each hour* . In *each minute* , 1.9 million neurons, 14 billion synapses, and 12 km (7.5 miles) of myelinated fibers are destroyed. *Compared with the normal rate of neuron loss in brain aging, the ischemic brain ages 3.6 years each hour without treatment.*
Only in a Capitalistic Dystopia would the question of Salaries of Doctors be more important than the health of the People...
Well, in the US money is an absolute king and people become doctors to get rich. Period.
Salaries are fixed too, so I don't know how the fox business guy doesn't know that.
jrpone
Talk about hypocratic oath...intentional
(Osteopathic 😂 over there)
jrpone
Capitalism kills.
Well it is important because you cant charge someone 300,000 thousand dollars for school and expect them to work for 60,000 a year. No one would become a doctor because that's impossible to pay off. The point was that you dont have to lower dr. Salaries at all because right now 20% of a dr. Bill is administrative cost and in france that number was only 5%
I lived in the UK for nearly 10 years. The quality of the healthcare was excellent and I never saw an unclean doctor's clinic or hospital in all my time there. That Fox host was just scaremongering.
The hospital the host stated his wife stayed in was a private hospital, completely separate to the NHS (the single-payer health system in the UK). Spire is a private medical corporation. The two are about as related as me and Angelina Jolie.
The hospital he mentioned was Queen's square, which is an NHS facility.
I still think the guy's fucking brain dead but misinformation retaliation is what allows this ignorance to thrive.
@@doorwayman www.privatehealth.co.uk/hospitals-and-clinics/queen-square-private-healthcare/
@@roderickgreig111 www.uclh.nhs.uk/OurServices/OurHospitals/NHNN/Pages/Home.aspx
There's more than one facility at Queen's square. While it's possible he went to the private one, he said it was an NHS venue.
Well most hospitals in the Uk cater for both public and private patients. Either way the story is bullshi!
I know the UK because my wife was there for a month...
Now, why didnt she fly back to the states for care? If its soo much better than theirs
I facepalmed...
Don't you mean Penny Lane? And the leader of the nurses is called Eleanor Rigby. Who lives in a Yellow Submarine. And is a Walrus...
This guy was PERFECT, didn't lose his cool once, just smiled as he kicked ass repeatedly with facts.
Love it. He did it the best way anyone could.
quite rare for a liberal to EVER come up with facts. The leftists are cheering that someone on their side finally didnt make an ass of themselves lmfao
shome1289 Well in this channel you won’t be disappointed buddy. 100% FACTS in this bitch
@Faizan A what do u mean
@@shome1289 Literally 99% of the time it's facts told. That since they don't coincide with the propaganda fox news world view, people claim are "fake news". Fox is fake news as evidenced by this clip
I visited my friend's home a few times, now I know more about his life than his family.
I love this guy so much honestly. You can see the visible pain on his face when they make their BS "arguments"
they all ganged up on him and they still lost 😂😆🤣😁
It was the verbal equivalent of Jackie Chan decking 5 guys in 3 moves.
@@trentrubenacker9718 Jackie Chan, a Communist, could probably light up a FOX News panel too
C'mon that one guy supported him.
He went all super saiyan on their asses and they all went flying 😂😂
exactly! the facts are on his side and they can't do anything about that.
**Properly answers question**
**3 additional mobs spawn**
*"Level 2: Begin"*
Rave lmao that’s what I thought too, he still killed it against 5 people
That's how the mafia works
If this was reddit I would gild you.
Amazing comment, waiting for level 3 and the hordes to come.
That and he doesnt back down when they start to try and talk over him. He finishes his thought regardless. Props
I had read about these pros and facts of a government run single payer system, and this doctor especially hit all of the points. It's very comforting to hear someone repeat these points very quickly and confidently when being attacked by 4 people throwing out one anecdote that doesn't align with actual statistics (those nations have longer life expectancies an snore prevented deaths than we do), "facts" that leave out important information (the cost without mentioning the savings compared to our current system), or that strange auto insurance comparison.
Most people cannot be very eloquent when recalling their research, and it's much easier to play an illogical devil's advocate rolling over the person who did the research. This doctor and his quick, eloquent responses is a savior.
Wow he had to resort to anecdotes because he COULDN'T make a cogent counter point.
I guarantee it was bullshit too
But people died at the hospital! I would like this scumbag to direct me to his American hospital where no one ever dies and everyone lives forever.
He couldn't make a cognitive anecdote either
IndianLover4you69 you need to make over a certain threshold in order to be eligible for that information.
I know a lot about China because I ate at a Chinese restaurant.
Hahaha good one....
😂
Priceless haha!
for a month!
“Nobody knows more about China than me, folks. Believe me.”
“I know this country very well because my wife was there for a month.” WTF
My EX was visiting Toulouse France about 4 years ago and fell down a flight of stairs resulting in multiple compound fractures of her right arm and a fractured elbow. She was in a hospital in Toulouse for 3 days. She was in an 8 hour surgery the first day and it was a complex operation where she had to have multiple pins and rods put in her arm. She then convalesced in the hospital for 2 more days then went back to the place she was staying where she then received IN HOME follow up care and therapy for another 3 days. When she got the bill after arriving back in the states it was $6800. Not her share, mind you, but the TOTAL BILL. After submitting it to Blue Cross she ended up paying a little over $500 total. I'm surprised insurance companies don't offer to give a free vacation with your treatment if you volunteer to go abroad.
"My wife was in the UK for a month so she knows more than the millions that live there"
I'd like to point out, if the UK was so terrible compared to the UK, why would he choose to have her treated there instead of the US?
Just pointing out this hosts hypocrisy as a well taken cared ot Canuck. :)
Alan McDougall
She had a stroke, when people have a stroke they generally go to the nearest hospital. Stroke centers in the US are the best in the World.
@@kurtvonfricken6829 Which matters why?
Seriously, if you are unlucky enough to suffer a stroke while you are near one of these World-class stroke units, then you'll be fine.
If, on the other hand, you are out in the boonies, you are, essentially, UP SHIT CREEK WITHOUT A PADDLE.
Just saying...
Doctor makes valid points. Fox responds with "NUH UH!"
Brilliant responses from that doctor.
I live in Austria and I’m originally from Connecticut. There are many doctors in Austria that don’t take single payer coverage and people are able to buy additional private insurance if they want that kind of treatment. So the way it works is, everybody has insurance but some people buy additional private insurance in addition to regular basic coverage. BTW, there’s no co pays or any other monkey business and no you don’t wait any longer than in the USA to get an appointment. I pay less than €200 a month for this level of coverage. Once you’ve lived in a country that has universal health care, you will never go back.
Not one person in the UK has gone bankrupt because of medical bills - NOT one, since the inception of the NHS in 1948. The system is based on medical need - not greed.
🎵🎵I know who's not going on fox again.🎵🎵
Elaine Lloyd _ikyg XD
Right.
I bet internally they were all like, "Shit! Shit! He knows what he's talking about! He has facts! Shit!! Can we cut this segment? Dammit, no, then it'll just end up on the internet like that thing with Tucker Carlson and Rutger Berman and we'll look even more like clueless pricks! Shit!!!"
Facts? Reality? !!! RUN AWAY !!!
lol those morons thought they won
Liberal Discord him as well hahah
the first woman host. shame on you, quoting a study improperly to scare people. when the study actually mentions savings for the nation.
The doctors face during this. I don’t know how he kept a straight face.
"I know the UK because my wife was there for a month" - a priceless comment that only a US news pundit would make
Wait, why did his wife go to England for health care? What was wrong with US medicine/ doctors?
It is nearly free there. And very good. It is very good in America too but much too expensive.
I kind of think that maybe they were on vacation and she had a stroke? Because they're in NY and if someone's having a stroke you really don't have the time to take a 5-8 hour flight to the UK lol.
The thing is he acts like Britian just introduced Universal Healthcare and that it has gone down the toilet as a result. Reality is we've had the NHS for 70 + years at this point and it works very well it's just that the Conservative government here doesn't fund it properly.
He went to a private capitalist hospital.
@@samh3074 Even Thatcher, who made Reagan look like a flower child liberal, defended single payer healthcare. She knew back in the 80's the masses should never have to worry seeing a doctor or getting medicine.
From Singapore,
We have subsided treatment, our hospitals are fantastic.
I just got discharged yesterday, and I didn't pay a single cent.
"Why can't the free market work?" Because everyone is an actual human. Those humans are telling you it isn't working; as it's already in use. Ergo. IT DOES NOT WORK. Wow! Logic!
I'm a Canadian. I love our flawed health care system. It's not perfect but it is something I'm deeply grateful for.
@doobiewah357 and they dont pay insurance premiums like we do. Whats your point? You can go around in circles and pull "snowflakes" and "socialist" bullshit out of your ass all day long, means nothing. They spend less per capita, have better outcomes. No away around it.
doobiewah357 Canadians have it good man. Not only was my friend’s cancer treatment free, his family was even given a place to stay when he needed to be at Vancouver Children’s Hospital for treatment. That’s what not-for-profit healthcare can provide.
@doobiewah357 I don't hate the US. I feel sorry for its citizens.
Geography lesson Moron...Canada is in America....are you stupid or what??@doobiewah357
I think Medicare should compete with the private insurance companies, if Medicare can offer a better deal then customers/citizens obviously are going to jump to that and the companies have no choice but to adapt.
I know America is all about choice, letting the individual choose between Medicare and private is great - if the first option isn't good enough then they can turn to the second. A check on IRS to apply for Medicare and let the employer tax it for you and you're done, shouldn't be harder. And if the Medicare would turn to be too expensive for the rich or upper middle class then they can turn to private insurance and save money.
After all, companies don't want to spend money on other people's health (but it's an incentive to attract employees) and save that money for themselves, so in this manner, Medicare saves companies money.
The UK hospital point is actually an argument against austerity, not medicare for all.
I know the UK well because.... I was born here, educated here and now work here in the NHS. It is underfunded by a CONSERVATIVE government, therefore has its drawbacks. But even the Conservatives don't really touch the NHS because there is near universal approval and love for it by the British public. It's a part of British society. I'm proud to work for it and the hospital I work at is in a perfectly good state for anyone who needs free medical treatment. I'm happy to pay slightly more taxes for a healthier, happier society, with healthcare that isn't run like car insurance! May the NHS live on and I hope that our American friends get the propper medical provision they deserve!!
In tandem with these points, I'd also argue the following:
1) Health is fortuitous-- people are bound to get sick or have some sort of health-related issue; it's inevitable. As such, healthcare providers will always have jobs and be paid.
2) A sizable issue as to why we have runaway costs is inflated/unregulated healthcare expense that runs more like a free-market system today. That means hospitals and doctors have free rein on what prices they charge their patients. Consequently, something like an MRI scan, which can cost something like $300 in France would cost patients $1000 dollars.
3) Health is not a commodity; it's a basic human right like housing, education, and freedom of speech. When you conflate pricing and free market with health, care becomes less about services and more about making money. Some may argue that free-market pushes companies to be competitive and push the forefront in terms of technology/treatment procedures/etc. However, their focus on profits means they're *less* concerned about cures and more so on treatment; after all, curing diabetes is less viable to them than treating the issue indefinitely. Same with cancer. Even if such cures come out you can damn well expect 1) insurance would not cover for it immediately and 2) they'd cost a fortune.
4) "What about our medical doctors/nurses/providers and their debt?" What about them? Our student debt is an outrageous issue that plagues this country /not/ because of students but because universities are more like corporations than they are institutions serving the people (you know, what one of those basic human rights being commoditized). Universities charge whatever they want, states are paying less for state-own universities by reducing tax dollar expenditures to said institutions that in turn puts the financial burden on students. Also, student debt is not easy to forgive or discharge.
5) Lots of middlemen in our healthcare. There are literal businesses that have been created since the 60s that manage healthcare costs; they are a sizable chunk of the overhead we pay for when we visit the doctors too. A doctor's rate might be priced at $200. Hospital fees might be another $500-1000. Insurance fees (even if one doesn't have it) might be another $100-200 indirectly-- I say indirectly because let's face it, providers are not absorbing the costs for the sake of patient; they're tacking it on to their bill. Contractor fees and billing admin fees might be $100. EMT costs might be $900. That's why we have hospital bills that easily go from $3000 to 10s of thousands. Good luck paying that if you're low income.
Whoever booked Dr. Gaffney is looking for a job now.
So true!
Did you look at that Doctor's smirk as he was destroying them left and right? He must have felt so satisfied putting these idiots in their place, eh ?
Sabotage
All my healthcare and meds are free!
@Maritza Piccarillo They are already told, that Doctors are the agents of the devil - so whatever they say it's just lies of Satan, the great deceiver...
Life get's so easy, once you stop thinking for yourself.
Disclaimer: No, of course that's not all of them, probably this doctor has reached more people on the issue and thus it was a good thing, but the point is - that especially religious nutjobs try to convince people that thinking is bad and all wisdom and knowledge can only come from 'our' higher authority. So stop thinking. Now.
And they do this since generations and slowly it starts to 'pay off'...
Speaking as somebody from the UK, I would just like to say that basically everyone I know, regardless of whether they are right wing or left wing, loves the National Health Service. It is a point of pride amongst our nation that we have a system that looks out for everyone in our society regardless of how much they earn, and that is filled with a dedicated staff how care about the people they are helping.
Regarding the "UK hospitals are dirty and falling apart" thing, I have spent plenty of time visiting family in hospital, and every time it has always been completely clean. Every time people I know have come out of hospital, they have always been thrilled with the service they have received, and grateful that it didn't cost them their life savings.
That's not to say the NHS doesn't have issues. There are hospitals that have been missing funding, junior doctors do not get treated justly, and the current government seem to want to privatise whatever they can. But would we want to get rid of it? God no.
He should have pointed out the number of rural hospitals that have closed in the US leaving communities underserved.
And this is what Davis Asman wrote in 2005 about his wife's stroke and recovery at Queens's Square. "When I received the bill for my wife's one-month stay at Queen's Square, I thought there was a mistake. The bill included all doctors' costs, two MRI scans, more than a dozen physical therapy sessions, numerous blood and pathology tests, and of course room and board in the hospital for a month. And perhaps most important, it included the loving care of the finest nurses we'd encountered anywhere. The total cost: $25,752. That ain't chump change. But to put this in context, the cost of just 10 physical therapy sessions at New York's Cornell University Hospital came to $27,000--greater than the entire bill from British Health Service!
There is something seriously out of whack about 10 therapy sessions that cost more than a month's worth of hospital bills in England. Still, while costs in U.S. hospitals might well have become exorbitant because of too few incentives to keep costs down, the British system has simply lost sight of costs and incentives altogether."
Fox might want to stop inviting informed, educated people on. It never seems to work out.
Especially the ones that can't be talked over.
My bf was in a scooter accident that left him temporarily unconscious. Got an ambulance to the hospital. No surgeries. No broken bones. No brain damage. Just some bumps and bruises and got a couple xrays done and prescribed some medication for swelling.
AFTER insurance the hospital bill came out to be $5000 along with a $2400 ambulance bill.
The American Healthcare system is a fucking joke.
My father was threated with a serious issue leaving him in hospital for treatment of a period of four months. It included multiple MRs, Cat Scans, scope camera work, an incredible amount of tests, and a large medication program.
His bill: 20$
(In Norway we have public health care, and we consistently rank Top 3 in the world. In Norway we have a monarchy. I have been treated at the same hospital as His Royal Highness The King.)
@@MrLundefaret you also have immense gas and oil wealth in a sovereign fund (the largest in the world), strict immigration laws and you also didn't join the European Union.
So your a Brexit loving, c02 creating, refugee rejecting nation.
But you look after your own...so it's ok... You and Trump would get along very well.
@@AussieZeKieL Firstly: Immigrants in Norway: 16,8% Vs Immigrants in the US 19,1%.
Secondly: We had healthcare for all before we had oil.
Thirdly: The US could have had the same fund for its citizens as we do for ours.
Fourthly: Our stately oil company is now turning itself into a renewable energy company, and has just won a big contract of the coast of New York, putting up an offshore windmill park using technology developed for the oil riggs.
They are also building the world's largest offshore windmill of the coast of Norway.
Fifthly: We tax our rich and have a welfare state. The US politician with the most Norwegian like views is Bernie Sanders.
Hope that cleared up some of your misunderstandings.
@@MrLundefaret Lolol🤣🤣🤣. And how are you guys on immigration?
@@MrLundefaret also you owned that dude up above👌👍
Thank you for the video! All of you friends super awesome! Oh, moments in this video are sad.
US wages are a lot higher then in most countries because everything costs more. In the Netherlands we have cheap schools, low healthcare cost.. You are fine if you make around 40.000 to 50.000 as a family. Specialist can easily earn over 100.000 dollars here.
A specialist wont quit their job because (passion and dedication aside) they invested way to much time in their profession. They cant switch to being a lawyer or manager.
I know UK very well. I watched 2 episodes of Benny Hill show and sometimes drink tea.
Winner! Anybody that quotes Benny Hill wins.
HA!!!
😭😂
lmao
Ha ha ha! I guess that makes me an expert, too! I'm a Whovian who adores Call the Midwife, and scones with clotted cream and jam, so I MUST be an expert on the NHS of the UK! It doesn't matter that my English ancestors came over to "the colony" around 1700! I know EVERYTHING about it!
Jeez, these Faux Noise jerks are idiots!
I wonder if the hosts went home that night and retained the doctors information.
Probably not.
The hosts dont matter. The doctor on that panel isnt talking to them as people, they're just puppets who are planted there to spew misinformation and lies on behest of their corporate owners and to repeat corporate talking points. Even if they change their minds, they would just get fired from Fox and replaced by the next best person willing to lie and disinform for money
"Retained" wrongly suggests that the information was processed in the first place
@@alogicalperspective5726 Of course it wasn't processed. There is a corporate talking point barrier that blocked it as soon as it hit their medulla oblongata.
I live in Canada, and I've had my knee replaced, and back surgery. Our system of health care is sometimes lengthy(wait times) but we have excellent doctors, and health care. I only paid for after care drugs. We love it here!!
Thank you.
They tried to "jump" this guy and he still smashed them all. Love it.
Like one of those old-timey kung fu movies where one guy mops the floor with 20 goons without getting touched, except with words and facts
Thats what happens when you put STATS vs FOX NEWS ... Those people look and sound fucking stupid its un fucking real ... they're trying to convince their viewers that healthcare is bad yet a majority of them actually want it but they still watch Fox tv who tell them its bad ... WTF man
@@ruofanyu6699 I was going to make a Bruce Lee reference, but you beat me to it.
You might describe his performance as...”surgical”. 😏
Gth
Too clever 🤣
Twas impressive.
He coulda also argued most insurances wont cover plastic surgery.
Insurance artificially Jack's up the price. Insurance interferes with the "free market "
He disenvoweled them.
@@jupitercyclops2191 Insurance is the biggest scam there is. When you're healthy, you'd spend A LOT less per year than you do on keeping insurance coverage, and the only reason serious illnesses and injuries cost so much is because you've propped up the insurance companies. It's laughable.
The average wage for a General Practitioner in Australia is $250,000 a year. This was how much we paid the GPs at the clinic I worked at.
Being the network administrator, health information officer, Quit Smoking counselor and Allied Health Assistant and friends with the corporate manager. This allowed me to see the 4 doctors negotiated contracts. On top of the yearly wage was a government work vehicle and fuel card. 12% superannuation and salary sacrifice.
I was only on $60,000 but because the administration building was on the other side of town and I would often have to travel between for IT problems so I got a car too.
Love how this guy says that people who don’t have insurance are a problem
I had a stopover in Heathrow. I'm queen of England now.
@patiotaiza, princess Diana resurrected 🙊
You killing me🤣🤣
I think I love u.
Lmao🤣🤣 oh shit
I don't get it 🤔
I love how the salary of doctors and their rights to exploit patients is more important than the health of the country.....
I love how the fox business guy didn't know a salary is FIXED.
None of them talk about the actual salary that needs to be cut down: CEOs and shareholders of Insurance companies
Also note the Fox claim that physicians order tests because they get a cut of the action or get paid more for doing so. Actually, the hospital labs & imaging depts make money off of ordered tests; the ordering physician does not & is, often, simply covering his/her butt against malpractice suits by covering all the bases.
@The Irish Italian and how much of that research is useful. It seems the biggest Medical or biomedical breakthroughs happen in Europe, Asia or south America. Check who wins for noble peace prizes.
@@danellymani205 yup. Same with military spending. They spend more than the next 8 to 10 countries combined and they barely beat ISIS after more than 15 years, but only with the help of many other countries. Doesn't help that part of that budget goes to weapons for ISIS... It's not about quality or actually helping people, it's about profit.
Brit here - The closures to ANY hospital unit is due to 2 reasons; Deliberate cuts by Government or absolute failure of the hospital that it comes to a risk.
Dr Adam... keep fighting.
I"m Canadian. and can't fathom this discussion.
I guess we have a great health care system here,.
I've gone thru cancer treatment in February and didn't worry about costs. Hey... it never entered my mind.!!! My family doctor referred me to the cancer specialists and was treated. Why is this NOT happening in the USA ?? ( stupid question, I guess ). Seniors pay a $100/yr for their prescriptions and every refill after that costs $ 4.11. . What are we doing so differently that the US can't apply to their system.??
EVERYONE has a basic right to care. Why is that so astounding.??? Hey.. .just a comment... and glad that I'm a Canadian.
Get this Doc on the Bernie campaign. He's brilliant.
The brilliant thing is it doesn’t even take brilliance. Everyone knows we are wasting trillions on greedy dirtbag insurance companies trying to steal money along the way for not doing anything. Pretty much anyone with a brain working in healthcare know it has to be single payer or no payer (meaning on the rich get care) in the very very near future.
Excerpts from this interview are on the Bernie Sanders web site.
Did that numbnuts really compare plastic surgery to emergency and preventative care?
Yes he sure did.
Plastic surgery is separate thats cosmetic.
I went to a private hospital 3 times after a seizure, they kept messing up my appointments and booking the wrong technician. I went to the NHS after a seizure I was diagnosed that day.
What a NICE GUY. He was well prepared for the anti-M4A Fox anecdotes
I'm in Sydney. Had a cycling accident and broke my collarbone. Got myself to the emergency department at RPA. Was seen by triage nurse within about 10 minutes. Stayed the night with xrays, bloods, ecg and ultrasound performed. Discharged the next day with a gown, a sling and a card to contact the fracture clinic across the road for follow up care. 8 specialist appointments, each with 2 xrays followed by 12 physio sessions and now I'm fine. The cost? ZERO! That's our Medicare at work.
@putsome basilonit Where?
I know the UK because my wife was there for a month! Priceless!
I live in London and can tell you with great confidence that he is a liar.
Yeah, and if his wife was there for a month, how much did he pay? Nothing.
I went to grad school in London and occasionally would choke up with tears walking out of NHS hospitals or doctors there. It's a travesty some Americans support being raped by a parasitic healthcare system engineered by wall street simply because they don't understand another way.
I’m a Doctor in the UK. Well I studied to be a Doctor for a whole month. Which means I’m a liar.
Hmm, those Brits - you can learn everything about them in one month. But they still may surprise you years later...
Greetings from Canada... We do have a troubling shortage of Doctors, FYI.
That doctor is going places, he is a smart man. Love his facts
I am a conservative on almost all topics. I do however support medicare for all as do most of my conservative friends. It just makes sense.
My only concern with Medicare for all is with everybody being covered will our quality of care go down? I’ve really dove into research on my concern and I cannot come up with a conclusion.
@@TorranceDoyleSpoofs
I live in Canada and no lines, and really good health Care.
TorranceDoyleSpoofs it won’t, there was a Canadian doctor testified in Congress and explained this. I’m sure you can find it on RUclips. Logically it shouldn’t anyway. All we’re doing is remove the profit motive in healthcare. In fact we can even take the extra money we saved from switching to M4A and reinvest back to provide better care.
@@TorranceDoyleSpoofs
At worst, maybe. Proper planning, structuring and scheduling will prevent overscheduling and overworking the healthcare infrastructure, and with proper preventative treatment, the need for intensive, more expensive treatment will start to go down over time.
@ PhineusGWobblebottom - That's because you're an actual Conservative. The root word of "Conservative" is "conserve"; which means "to save."
These Fox News fakes don't want to save money in this instance. They're happy to increase the amount of money the government has to spend on healthcare
so the health insurance execs get richer. Everything to them is "get richer by any means necessary" even if it's at the expense of the people dying. If everybody dies,
who's going to be the ones buying health insurance? You've effectively killed off your clientele!!!
Damn, he really sounds like a Secular Talk fan
Hospitals are closing here in the U.S., where’s the difference?
I'm from the UK. What the bloody hell is a dock-ter???? Never heard of or seen one in me life!