That's what I thought! Like in the old version it felt like two kids playing house or something. But the new version is just so frustrating to me, like they get along so well as friends but keep pushing that they want to be romantic and it's just meeeehhhhh. Like I saw someone else say it's supposed to be satire of the stereotypical hetero hate each other relationship but that doesn't make it any less annoying 😖
That is how I felt about them in the original books, the 90s version felt a bit more serious to me, eventhough still kiddie stuff. But in the books they had a lot of pretend scenarios like Moomin capturing her as a bad guy or Tarzan and Jane lol.
Literally their relationship's main shtick is that they each keep getting new love interests and they were meant as a satirical take on m/f relationships 😭💀
In the older cartoon it was actually pretty cute since they were just kids having little crushes on each other but now it’s like watching a slapstick parody of what they once were.
@@father270 It also seems like they've been together for so long without reallllllly knowing why. It's like they resigned themselves to the idea of spending their lives together. But as soon as they have other options, they don't hesitate to flirt (Moomin with the seahorses and wooden mermaid, Snorkmaiden with Brian). They're settling for one another, but they both deserve so much more
Moomin x Snorkmaiden is just your typical unhappy and miserable het relationship who only got together because society told them that's how it's supposed to go.
Moominvalley kind of gets Snorkmaiden more than the 90s show. The 90s one made her far more docile and downplayed her spicy characteristics. In the comic strip Snorkmaiden was often mean, and lusting over other men. I think they have a cute dynamic, they're both country bumpkins, but Moomin is at peace with that, while Snorkmaiden wants to come off as a smart city slicker. But really she prefers to live in the Valley like Moomin, she just doesn't realize that.
Yeah, I like her as a character and think she would be so much better if she just broke up with Moomin. It would probably help her possession and jealously problems
I was never the biggest fan of MoominxSnorkmaiden. To me Moomin doesn't really care to be around her all the time like he is with Snufkin, while Snorkmaiden is kind of a gaslighter and had issues with jealousy. I think she was at her worst in the 2019 version. Everything Moomin did made her angry for some reason :
@@eat_her_buns_for_her.1he really only leaves in the winter though, if I’m remembering correctly, when Moomin was hibernating anyways. Plus, it’s kind of different. Those two aren’t in a relationship, it’s not like he has to stay with him all the time. Still, I see how it could be a problem
There's also another reason why in the comics relationship was far more toxic. Because the Moomins were so popular at the times In the 50's, and Tove Jansson's other works didn't do that well, Jansson started to feel hatred and frustration against her own creation. That's why comic books have so much more mean spirited nature, because Jansson kind a wanted channel her frustration, someway or another. Lot of people didn't know Jansson also did lot of paintings, but usually audience and critics hate and despice those paintings. That's why Jansson really hate Moomins, because everybody loves Moomins, but no one didn't love Tove's other works.
I've only ever read the books, and they're actually pretty low key there (except for _Comet_ where Moomin first meets her, and he becomes completely obsessed). They're just... comfortable with each other, in a very relaxing way, with very little drama. Snork Maiden is a little vain but is actually pretty smart. In _Comet_ she rescues Moomin from a giant octopus fairly handily. I don't know when the books were written compared to the comics --- later, I think? At least the later ones are pretty serious (_November_ is, AFAICT, about depression). Re Tove's other books: go read _The Summer Book_. You won't regret it.
@@hjalfi She started wrote Moomin novels 1940's and both few novels and several comic strips came out In 1950's. Well, when In the novels tone can be little bit more relax and late back, in the comic strips tone was far more mean spirited and satirical. After all Jansson was also very aprecciated satire writer before Moomin novels. And In the comic books, even Moomintroll can behave really agressively. When Mr. Brisk came To Moominvalley, he already start flirting with the Snorkmaiden, and then Moomintroll snaps and is ready to kill Mr. Brisk.
@@HautaAntero that's fair, but it's also important to note that the comic strips were made with less time, as she was pressured to produce a lot of them in a short amount of time, and it the end she gave control over the comic strips to her brother. so it's not fair to just say she hated the moomins, since there's very very little proof to that statement. even when she was very frustrated, she wasn't frustrated with the characters, she was only feeling overwhelmed with the attention they got all of a sudden.
@@cheeseebun I've always hated this type of writing in cartoons, comics, video games and movies. It just give a feel writer had some mental issues which should actually solve in therapy and not in passive-aggressive writing. It makes end product feel more like a bad episode of Family Guy or Brickleberry. Write the story in passive-aggressive way was the thing which makes me leave from Sonic The Hedgehog fandom. It started feel like fransize's writing in games, comics and shows gives fanbase a permission to behave passive-aggressive way just sake of.... what ever reason.
These two should just be friends, and agree to pretend to be in a relationship so that people get off their case, and they can pursue their own love interests.
meanwhile Snufkin is holding back his laughter in the background, waiting for the perfect moment to strike! Then Little My asks him to date her and everything is ruined.
i feel like they did 2019 snorkmaiden dirty. like, just took her worst traits from the 90's- jealousy and oversensitivity- and cranked them way out of proportion
I am sorry but i love them. They're so adorable...at times i wish snufkin and her could share moomin, but as it was in real life, thats not how the story goes. Infact in real life Tove=moomin didn't end up with any of them. Sorry snufkin x moomin fans but i'll be the first snorkmaiden defender...i mean she at least needs one lol
I mean, it could be different, like many people said, this is a relationship that probably came up when they were kids and they just kept up with it until teen years and they don't know what they're doing together anymore and they take any chance (Moomintroll with the seahorses and may Snufkin and Snorkmaiden with brisk) so I hoping that it would be different with Moomintroll and Snufkin since Moomin seems like he ha a genuine interest
This is a very toxic relationship...Also there is random fanfiction online. When it automatically creates an fanfiction. If you don't mind, I can send you the link and maybe you make a video, for the SnorMyden story? ..Also there is random fanfiction online. When it automatically creates a fanfiction. If you don't mind, I can send you the link and maybe you make a video, for Snorkmaiden x Littley My story?
Why is she also white? Snorks cannot be white according to original. And they can change color to anything but not white depending on their emotional state. Did they completely skip it in the adaptation and removed from the plot twists?
Eso que?? Vieja ridícula nadie arruina lo que ya está arruinado sean lgbt o no y que te arda vieja hompfpba ridícula aunque te arda moomin x snufkin más canon que mi existencia vv 🗣🗣🗣🍓
I know my editing program screwed up one part of the audio 👀 I'll pretend it's fine
WELCOME BACK BESTIE
Hope you had a safe trip uwu
@@GandyDaGei I did, thank you! Did some crimes while I was gone ofc 💅
@@moomshroomsoup What kind of crimes? And did Snufkin joined you?
@@miriamritz7503 just a bit of light arson and helping Snufkin pull up signs (and some piracy of course) 😂
@@moomshroomsoup I see, I do hope you both had fun.
BRO THE WAY HE FUCKING JUST DROPS HER WHEN HE HEARS SNUFKIN PLEASEEE
I mean it is crazy
@@official_rown Don't say that you wouldn't do the same :v
History will remember them as good friends
Well, is snufkin after all
I MEAN I WOULD TOO
"total undivided attention...."
"OmG sNufKin?!!?!?!?!?"
* yeets snorkmaiden *
Pretty much their relationship in a nutshell, lmao.
*This makes me realise how much straight baiting this relationship was. Like they both using each other as an excuse not to come out of the closet-*
Can't believe they are straight baiting, CANCELLED!
Wait who was snorkmaiden trying to get with?
@@crayonburry it’s implied that her and little My kinda have a thigh going, especially with the well scene in the new season😘
Moomin and Snorkmaiden being each other‘s beards 🥰
Yesssss
In the 90's, the relationship struck me more as just... two kids playing who don't actually understand love.
That's what I thought! Like in the old version it felt like two kids playing house or something. But the new version is just so frustrating to me, like they get along so well as friends but keep pushing that they want to be romantic and it's just meeeehhhhh. Like I saw someone else say it's supposed to be satire of the stereotypical hetero hate each other relationship but that doesn't make it any less annoying 😖
That is how I felt about them in the original books, the 90s version felt a bit more serious to me, eventhough still kiddie stuff. But in the books they had a lot of pretend scenarios like Moomin capturing her as a bad guy or Tarzan and Jane lol.
They do exactly that for me no matter the version 😭😭
Literally their relationship's main shtick is that they each keep getting new love interests and they were meant as a satirical take on m/f relationships 😭💀
??? how? cause ive never done that lol
omg i love that
It's really what the writer wanted to represent. I say about a relationship like a perfect woman. I was tired of that.
honestly i dont even hate moomin x snorkmaiden, but dude... maybe i'd like it a whole lot more if it was healthy 💀
First relationships be like that oft times, unfortunately. Trial by error seems to be the common way 😄
Like man, they barely even seem like friends let alone lovers. Lmao
In the older cartoon it was actually pretty cute since they were just kids having little crushes on each other but now it’s like watching a slapstick parody of what they once were.
@@calcxte that was basically the snorkmaiden being obsessed with romance so adopting moomin as her boyfriend and this is just that but more toxic.
@@father270 It also seems like they've been together for so long without reallllllly knowing why. It's like they resigned themselves to the idea of spending their lives together. But as soon as they have other options, they don't hesitate to flirt (Moomin with the seahorses and wooden mermaid, Snorkmaiden with Brian). They're settling for one another, but they both deserve so much more
Moomin x Snorkmaiden is just your typical unhappy and miserable het relationship who only got together because society told them that's how it's supposed to go.
And, you know, they hid a body together. Gotta make sure the other one doesn't spill the secret, right?
"You are my whole world"''
You sure you weren't thinking of Snufkin there, Moomin? ;)
Bro literally called snorkmaiden snufkin 5 seconds before that
Moominvalley kind of gets Snorkmaiden more than the 90s show. The 90s one made her far more docile and downplayed her spicy characteristics. In the comic strip Snorkmaiden was often mean, and lusting over other men.
I think they have a cute dynamic, they're both country bumpkins, but Moomin is at peace with that, while Snorkmaiden wants to come off as a smart city slicker. But really she prefers to live in the Valley like Moomin, she just doesn't realize that.
I think even Jansson said that moomin and snorkmaiden are playing at being in love, like when a toddler plays kitchen or dress-up.
1:21 killed me, Moomintroll, Snufkin is your whole world
1:17 PLS- THE WAY HE JUST DROPPED HER FOR SNUFKIN-
despite the fact that the Snorkmaiden of MoominValley is somewhat possessive, she has something that prevents me from hating her ( ･ั﹏･ั)
Yeah, I like her as a character and think she would be so much better if she just broke up with Moomin. It would probably help her possession and jealously problems
i think its her voice, its pretty adorable. BUT DONT LET IT FOOL YOU. shes evil
fr thats exactly how it is for me!!
01:11 we can clearly see Moomintroll's priority right here
I was never the biggest fan of MoominxSnorkmaiden. To me Moomin doesn't really care to be around her all the time like he is with Snufkin, while Snorkmaiden is kind of a gaslighter and had issues with jealousy. I think she was at her worst in the 2019 version. Everything Moomin did made her angry for some reason :
I agree on the 2019 one but didn't Snufkin leave moomin often (if I remember correctly). Also only in the English dubs they sound guy
@@eat_her_buns_for_her.1he really only leaves in the winter though, if I’m remembering correctly, when Moomin was hibernating anyways. Plus, it’s kind of different. Those two aren’t in a relationship, it’s not like he has to stay with him all the time. Still, I see how it could be a problem
0:30 He didn’t even hesitate LMASMFSOBJSJABS
There's also another reason why in the comics relationship was far more toxic. Because the Moomins were so popular at the times In the 50's, and Tove Jansson's other works didn't do that well, Jansson started to feel hatred and frustration against her own creation. That's why comic books have so much more mean spirited nature, because Jansson kind a wanted channel her frustration, someway or another. Lot of people didn't know Jansson also did lot of paintings, but usually audience and critics hate and despice those paintings.
That's why Jansson really hate Moomins, because everybody loves Moomins, but no one didn't love Tove's other works.
I've only ever read the books, and they're actually pretty low key there (except for _Comet_ where Moomin first meets her, and he becomes completely obsessed). They're just... comfortable with each other, in a very relaxing way, with very little drama. Snork Maiden is a little vain but is actually pretty smart. In _Comet_ she rescues Moomin from a giant octopus fairly handily. I don't know when the books were written compared to the comics --- later, I think? At least the later ones are pretty serious (_November_ is, AFAICT, about depression).
Re Tove's other books: go read _The Summer Book_. You won't regret it.
@@hjalfi She started wrote Moomin novels 1940's and both few novels and several comic strips came out In 1950's. Well, when In the novels tone can be little bit more relax and late back, in the comic strips tone was far more mean spirited and satirical. After all Jansson was also very aprecciated satire writer before Moomin novels. And In the comic books, even Moomintroll can behave really agressively. When Mr. Brisk came To Moominvalley, he already start flirting with the Snorkmaiden, and then Moomintroll snaps and is ready to kill Mr. Brisk.
@@HautaAntero that's fair, but it's also important to note that the comic strips were made with less time, as she was pressured to produce a lot of them in a short amount of time, and it the end she gave control over the comic strips to her brother. so it's not fair to just say she hated the moomins, since there's very very little proof to that statement. even when she was very frustrated, she wasn't frustrated with the characters, she was only feeling overwhelmed with the attention they got all of a sudden.
such an INFP she was 💀
@@cheeseebun I've always hated this type of writing in cartoons, comics, video games and movies. It just give a feel writer had some mental issues which should actually solve in therapy and not in passive-aggressive writing. It makes end product feel more like a bad episode of Family Guy or Brickleberry. Write the story in passive-aggressive way was the thing which makes me leave from Sonic The Hedgehog fandom. It started feel like fransize's writing in games, comics and shows gives fanbase a permission to behave passive-aggressive way just sake of.... what ever reason.
These two should just be friends, and agree to pretend to be in a relationship so that people get off their case, and they can pursue their own love interests.
1:12 my favorite part
meanwhile Snufkin is holding back his laughter in the background, waiting for the perfect moment to strike!
Then Little My asks him to date her and everything is ruined.
Little My is actually related to him so. . .
@@Topdoggie7 WHAT
IN THE 90S ONE SHE SAID THEY SHOULD DATE
@@los3r426 Yeah, in somewhere, I believe it;s the book series she's confirmed to be his cousin. I think she does it to mess with him.
@@Topdoggie7 older half sister*
She's his half-sister....
Snorkmaiden a walking ball of cute and fluffy little red flags
lmao this
when i watched moomins as a kid i literally didnt realise they were daiting. i think i thought that they were siblings or something.
I THOUGHT THEY WERE LIKE COUSINS OR SOME SHIT AT FIRST
(1:12)
i don't even watch this and i can tell they're straight baiting
This always reminded me of the relationship of comic book Donald and Daisy.
Sameeee
A
Moomin and Snorkmaiden make me cringe so much, lol.
I'm sure they will break up soon enough
*Its been like 40 years tho- 💀*
@@GandyDaGei 😭 new record for being in denial
They kind of broke up towards the end of s2 when they left for the lighthouse! Snorkmakden said they needed some time to figure things out, I think
If not, I am sure you'll expedite things.
Considering your name, i feel like this is a threat
Kids, don't end up like these two! And remember to always-
👁️ *beware* 🕺 *the* 👻 *vengeance* *of* 🌪️ *the* 🪦 *forgotten* ☠️ *B O N E S* ☠️
1:20
*This. I would frame this on my wall if I could.*
They’re both in denial I just know it
Pov: them making up
Moomin 1 second later: Snufkin?! 😄😮
They work a lot better in the anime in my opinion. They do appear to be more childish and tend to make the mistakes as kids do.
1:46 I've never watched this show but, EXCUSE ME *WHAT?*
Oh my god, Snorkmaiden and Moomintroll definitely have a yikes of a relationship. They honestly should break up!
1:23 gave my BIG Charlie Brown energy
1990s Snormaiden and Moomin are so adorable...
The only healthy adaptation of their relationship is the fuzzy felt version at this point 💀
1:40 No the Kurds could still drive her in from here.
HAHA
1:21 the way she falls 😭
O fato é que, independente de qualquer coisa, Moomintroll tem uma quedinha pelo Snufkin 😁❣
White card: moomintroll not wanting to help mame a dozen or so kids.
*Make
The amount of times they’ve cheated on each other are UNREAL 💀💀
1:11 OMG AKKSKD 😂
as someone who has only read the books why tf are they so british 💀💀
KEK
i feel like they did 2019 snorkmaiden dirty. like, just took her worst traits from the 90's- jealousy and oversensitivity- and cranked them way out of proportion
I guess it’s to put further emphasis on how much they should break up
1:20
OH!
.. _Oh_
I am sorry but i love them. They're so adorable...at times i wish snufkin and her could share moomin, but as it was in real life, thats not how the story goes. Infact in real life Tove=moomin didn't end up with any of them. Sorry snufkin x moomin fans but i'll be the first snorkmaiden defender...i mean she at least needs one lol
Damnn also Jesus Christ moomin 😭
Don’t forget: leave your partner for a s e a h o r s e
they’re basically each others comphet cause neither has yet to come out of the closet😭
Moomin X Snufkin and Little My X Snorkmaiden for life
It really makes me worry if Moomintroll is going to treat Snufkin right. I mean we all know how easily Moomin falls for a pretty face.
I mean, it could be different, like many people said, this is a relationship that probably came up when they were kids and they just kept up with it until teen years and they don't know what they're doing together anymore and they take any chance (Moomintroll with the seahorses and may Snufkin and Snorkmaiden with brisk) so I hoping that it would be different with Moomintroll and Snufkin since Moomin seems like he ha a genuine interest
Look at me mom I’m first
This is a very toxic relationship...Also there is random fanfiction online. When it automatically creates an fanfiction. If you don't mind, I can send you the link and maybe you make a video, for the SnorMyden story?
..Also there is random fanfiction online. When it automatically creates a fanfiction. If you don't mind, I can send you the link and maybe you make a video, for Snorkmaiden x Littley My story?
Ooh! Do you have the link?
Why is she also white? Snorks cannot be white according to original. And they can change color to anything but not white depending on their emotional state. Did they completely skip it in the adaptation and removed from the plot twists?
Maybe it is because of the budget? Idk, but many other adaptations of Snorkmaiden don't change colors (that's disappointing)
1:13
moomin x snorkmaiden is only healthy in the older show. I think
they are so unhealthy
Snorkmaiden and moomin’s relationship was so mid bro had better chemistry with her brother
Plus should they get snorkmaiden sort of nicer to moomintroll in the fourth season
what show is this, ive been getting recommended clips of this show and im so confused as to why?
Moominvalley (2019) / Mommins (90's)
sorry this was so funny to me
WHERE CAN I WATCH THE 3RD SEASON ???
there's a link for it if you click the socials part of my banner :)
I couldn't stand her in the 90's, can't stand her in the 2019's
snorkmaiden literally has no purpose aside from being a beard
I be honest i dont liked her at all her flirty and demanding attitude and ditching moomin in times of need i just didnt liked that since childhood
This IS why, i hate snorkmaiden.
They low key broke up in the 3D adaptation
Oh how lgtbq are ruining Snusmumrikens and Mumins friendship by shipping them is saddening
Eso que?? Vieja ridícula nadie arruina lo que ya está arruinado sean lgbt o no y que te arda vieja hompfpba ridícula aunque te arda moomin x snufkin más canon que mi existencia vv 🗣🗣🗣🍓
1:15