The Celestion G12H30 70th Anniversary is Secretly AWESOME!
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- I took the Celestion G12H30 70th Anniversary for a spin. Not a fan of the name but I love how it sounds
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Time stamps:
00:28 Intro & Set up
02:39 Playthrough Drop C#
10:06 Playthrough Drop C
13:20 Room Sounds
14:08 Final Thoughts & Conclusion
Signal chain:
PRS CE24 in Drop C# with PRS 85/15 pickups
Charvel SoCal in Drop C with Seymour Duncan Blackened Black Winters
EVH 5150 III 50w
Marshall 1960 AV (Hesu Wizard 112 for room)
Celestion G12H30 70th Anniv. & Vintage 30 from the year 2000 (both 8 Ohms)
Shure SM57s (Austrian Audio OC818 for room)
Rupert Neve 511 500 series preamp modules
Audient ID24 mkII converters
Reaper
RUclips
Your crappy phone speaker
your ears
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"Hi, I'm Bald." - Best opener ever.
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Hahahhahahahah
I was cackling and had to pause the video
This actually is my favourite celestion speaker
@@philippgrunert8776 relatable
Mine too!
Another great video! Thanks for shedding light on a speaker that I personally feel deserves WAY more love! I currently have 2 of these quads loaded in a MArshall Mode four cab and a Diezel RV cab. Perfect compliments to the speakers as both of those cabs sound bigger/darker due to thei construction than something like a 1960. They shine in OS cabs
Absolutely! I can only speculate that the name is holding it back. It just doesn't sound as cool as other Celestion model names
I got a mode four bottom cab recently. The one with a version of V30 in it. They're called MF30s. Same as the Marshall Vintage speakers pretty much. I have a late '80s 1960a cab with T75s. It sounds great for old school riffing, but a bit harsh for distorted lead tones on higher strings. But with the MF280b cab sitting underneath it sounds amazing. That harshness is gone somehow and the MF30 speakers add what the T75s lack. A great speaker combination. The MF30s somehow enhance the good stuff with the T75s, but cancel out the ugly stuff, while making it all sound more together. It's hard to explain. Mode Four cabs were very expensive when new. All birch ply and oversized etc. Not super rigid and tight like a Mesa cab though.
is it just me, or you are getting a lot better at these riffs?
50+ videos in and the red light fever is slowly going away. I am finding it easier to talk to the camera too.
Thank you for noticing
I absolutely love these speakers. Totally agree, they fly under the radar and I have no idea why they’re not more popular, they’re excellent
I'm thinking it has to be the name. If it were called blueback, goldback or something, I'm sure it would be on more peoples radars
that intro.. cracked me up man
Holy cow, sound way better than I expected. Gotta give these IRs a try.
Yeah! It's good! Hope you like the IRs
2:47 that sounds sooo good, man
Thank you! I really like that riff
The heritage g12h30s are God tier speakers, wish they still made them. They technically still make the heritage g12m's as they are the evh speakers. Blending the anniversary is great. Put one in a vintage ac30 with a silver and it's a great combo.
Man the 70th sounds great!
Now this is one amazing speaker. IIRC the Cameron cabs were fitted with these speakers.
Something i started doing years ago is put my marshall cabs on the floor of the stage without the casters i removed them and use a dolly imstead the cabnet contact with the floor majes a huge diffrence i learnrd this trick from producer Jack Douglas in the 80's recording the first Axehammer LP cheers !
I am going to have to try that. Never did thought it would exaggerate the bass. Have to give it a try now :)
The G12H is my go to speaker when I can't figure out what I want, or if I need to cover a lot of musical territory. It probably helps that as a young chap, it was the best speaker I had access to until I got a Mesa 412, so I became very well acquainted with them then.
Cr0nchy! I think those were in my old EVH 2x12 indeed, sounded pretty good! Great video!
Thank you, bro
Really dig that opening tone 👌
Thank you!
Same! Nice riff
Awesome video maaa maaaaaan!
I really like the tones of the two blended together! Since I am one-sided deaf, I cannot hear stereo, so the section in 7:33 is for me just a perfect blend. In that 50:50 blend, , maybe with a slight roll off of the high-end, you got some tone-juice magic happening there!
Oh dude! I did not know that, mate. Sorry to hear that
Another great one!!!🙌 I also think this speaker pretty underrated.
Cheers, Christoph! Appreciate you being here
@@TheOtherJohnBrowne Thank you! I'm open for interesting stuff, always.☺
My Favorite speaker 👍
I like the L/R blend with the v30 quite a lot!
My favorite speaker. I have 2 in a cab and 1 in a combo. Tight is all . And for those who say spikey or something like that. That's what EQ and tone knobs are for
Sounds awesome man! Love the PRS guitar! 🔥
Thanks, buddy! I love my CE24
Great speaker, works well on its own and paired with a V30, that was the combo I ran in my Mesa 212 before they came out with G12h75 creamback. Liked the tone better on the G12h30 but wanted the extra watts from g12h75 to run with a 100 watt head. Can’t lose both work really well :) thanks for vid and getting the word out on a great speaker
Great video. I love the G12H Anniversary speakers as well. Avatar sells a version of it that is pre-broken in for 15 hours and rebadged that is called the Hellatone 30. I have a quad of those in my Marshall 1960B cab. I always found the top end of the G12H to be much more pleasant to my ears than the V30. However, V30s are always a safe bet when using them with amps that were designed with those speakers in mind.
4:34 is pretty damn close to the exact tone I like. v30 it is, even tho I always liked how open and natural the greenback variants sound. Both are pretty awesome actually, 5:28 that sounds really nice and crisp :)
There's no way around the V30. It's the standard for a reason and I am not ashamed for loving it
@@TheOtherJohnBrowne Same here, although it sometimes annoys me that I always come back to it, because the v30 is such a cliché in metal XD
I have a pair of these sitting on a shelve. I have yet to find another pair that would combine nicely with these. I’ve tried the V30s (Chinese) and wasn’t pleased. So far I am sticking to my 4x12 with a pair of Mesa V30s and a pair of old G12T-75.
Those old T75s are actually pretty cool
These are the kind of speakers I’d put on the bottom of a cab because of the nice open midrange, but I’d never use them alone….they’re too present, for me anyways. I’m always of the mind that there is no such thing as a bad speaker, just bad application!
These have always been a favourite =) Thanks for the video and IRs =)
You are very welcome
Great demo/compare/shootout as always! I’d dare to say a clearer/less nasal sounding speak vs the v30 but there’s something about the harmonics that the v30 has and I noticed it specifically in your pinch harmonics riffs. I think you can’t got wrong with either and cab design will determine that final factor in selection. I agree with @belligerentamateur than an os cab would do the trick for the g12H 70.
Dude, I almost think this is one of the most under rated current prod speaker out there. Also, it sounds so good with the V30's! Obv, things like what cab they are in, amp, guitar, mic etc affect it like any other speaker, but damn, Im sitting here wondering why I don't have a couple at least!
Super underrated
I pair mine at 16 ohms with Creamback 75 in a mojotone baseman cab. Really sings on the cleans.
I imagine that combo would sound really good together
I always found the *long name* to be a bit nasal with a slightly abrasive peak in the presence similar to the ‘regular’ V30. Maybe lacking that snarl in the mids where I would like it. Having said that, it sounded decent here.
I find it interesting that the 1st example played always seems to set a mental baseline, establishing a ‘norm’ by which we judge the strangeness of the second. I feel like the first example in a comparison always has the advantage. Maybe it’s just my brain.
Awesome vid John.
It's not just your brain. It's mine too
Quality content, as per usual my man.
Thank you!
The G12H-30 has long been my favorite Celestion speaker. It sits somewhere in-between the Greenback and V30 in terms of tone, and works perfectly for both vintage rock and heavy metal tones all the way to tight modern metal. I like the G12H Heritage (now discontinued) better than the Anniversary, but both sound fantastic. The Anniversary is a bit tighter than the Heritage in my experience, so it works better for metal out-of-the-box.
I still may have to source a Heritage model somehow
yeah the g12h 30w att it mine favorite i also like the wgs reaper and reaper hp, its the speaker that tony ioomi used on the black sabbath records
Had to rewind several times because I was just listening to the riffs and forgot this was a speaker shootout!
I really like the "bit less in your face" nature compared to the V30s - sounds really good! Is the G12H30 a little quieter in the room as well?
Cheers - great one as usual!
You're too kind, mate!
It didn't strike me as being quieter but the V30 has a lot more high mids which might make it appear louder
nice! I really like the g12h30 seems rpetty smooth,. v30 is great too sometimes to me a little pokie though. Cool comparison!
Thank you!
In all the sound clips i heard on the celestion websight, i always thought this one sounded the best. I was about to say i wish i could own these speakers, then you told me theyre in the evh 2x12! Thanks man! I love my evh 2x12!
Speaking of, that speaker mix pro vst Celestion made is pretty damn awesome. The DSRs are a bit pricey, but they seem to respond more realistically. Noticeably better than regular IRs for sure, even Celestions own IRs don’t compare to their DSRs.
@UseTheSupeRsonic idk what a Dsr is, but I'll look it up. I don't really use plug ins or IRs, I guess I'm just old-school. I always thought the evh speakers in the 2x12 were a variation of a greenback lol. I love these channels, it's great for educational purposes. Now I actually know what I own lol.
@@lieutenantdan2217 DSRs are a proprietary version of IR that Celestion uses for their vst. They’re not static IRs.
Correct about the EVH Celestion though-it’s really just a rebadged G12M Heritage. Great speaker that actually sounds pretty modern for it to be a vintage reissue
@UseTheSupeRsonic Here he's saying it's a G12H? I'm sure they're both closer than it's worth talking about, but if my memory serves me correct I remember thinking the G12H was warmer than a greenback and had more presence than a V30. That's why I wanted em so bad, because they were right in the middle. I also remember deciding not to buy them, because they were 250 a piece.
You could have been one of the bad guys from the new Dune movie. Nice playing! 🎉 Gotta try this speaker with different amps. It pairs well with Orange stuff. EVH amps are so damn harsh sounding
Why does this make the V30 sound scooped? Really liked the G12H30 70th, which I suspected I might because they sound amazing in the EVH dynacabs in the Axe Fx. Thanks for making this direct comparison, bald!
EDIT: wow! In the room they sound completely opposite from the close-mic'ing. The V30 sounds full and mid-forward and the G12H30 70th sounds screechy and scooped? But I sitll really liked the close mic tones better in this case from the G12H30.
Personally, I don't find the room sounds very useful. Maybe I need to find better cabs for that.
The Axe Fx Dynacabs are fantastic btw.
There is a greenback G12H-30 as well and it appears discontinued The creamback H, Greenback H, and this one all sound great! The sticker on this appears to say it is the original spec for the Greenback version?
Great video!
The G12H30 with the 5150 sounds way better than the V30.
The V30 sounds a bit harsh in general, but the G12H30 comes and balances it perfectly. Killer tone when both speakers are mixed together.
Curious if these would work as good with another amp with smoother voicing compared to the 5150.
SWEEEEEEEET !!!!!!! I’d send you my wgs reaper hp for a comparison of you want
I appreciate the offer
I use G12 H Black Back 55hz in my marshall amps their my favorite but any G12 H are great I've tried others and always came back cheers !!
I recently loaded two of those from 1978 into my EVH 4x12. I love them
I don't know if it really is a tip or secret, but the eminence wizard is said to be voiced similar to this one but just at a much higher power rating, which is why I own a wizard and not the anniversary.
Strange enough there seems to be no content really comparing them... As you do so often.
The Wizard is on my radar too
@@TheOtherJohnBrowne well then. I'm genuinely looking forward to your next content :-)
Birds!
Hey put this video down now! Its a secret haha. I always think of it as a greenback and a v30 had a baby but none of that pokey high mids
@@Frankentoane That sounds pretty accurate to me!
I like your GB & V30 blend comparison for the featured speaker because it reminds me of a Creamback H 75 which is definitely in the realm of a V30 & Greenback baby. Anyway, you have a fine day.
That makes total sense really given that the modern G12H-30 is a direct take on the G12H greenbacks from the 1970s - essentially the G12H anniversary literally is a H magnet greenback without the green cover. The Vintage 30 was a response to loads of people in the 1980s asking for Celestion to re-release the old (vintage) G12H-30, but they made it with a different voice coil so they could uprate it to 70W. Of course now we have the G12H-75 Creamback as well which was also supposed to be an uprated G12H, so really the V30, G12H anniversary and G12H Creamback are all three different shots at the same goal.
@levipartridge2790, what an awesome chunk of history knowledge. Thank you.
@@levipartridge2790 i thought the v30 was a response to a ceramic type alnico blues
I like the heritage speakers better than the V30s
Wait, he's BALD?!
So with my evh 5150 I hated this speaker when paired with it,however pairing it with a jcm 800,Plexi or similar amp these speakers sound amazing with them. They also pair nicely with the 65 and 75 creambacks
Funnily enough, I wasn't in love with the EVH 2x12 I had way back that had these in it so I guess the cab plays a big roll too
Better get that right hand in shape! There's a trick to that and no I don't mean masturbation. Ok yeah I mean masturbation LOL. Nah seriously I think it sounds great, the two combined sounded really good and if I had to choose one on its own I think it would be the G12H30. It reminds me a little of that Fane speaker you tried a while back (was it the F50?). Like the V30 but not so aggressive in the upper mids.
LOL. Yeah! I did demos for the F70 and more recently the F25. I have one for the F30 coming up too
@@TheOtherJohnBrownelol maybe it's the F25 I was thinking about. I'll have to go back and look.
Hi Im Bald❤😂
I literally didn't watch this but had an idea. Do the worst speaker you can find and make it sound good video.
Hi bald, I’m dad
😂
@theotherjohnbrown do a comparison with it in the DV 77 and tell me it isn’t money that combo
I lent my DV77 to a friend but once I get it back, I might just do that. I think that combination could be sweet
@@TheOtherJohnBrowne well you know basically that’s what I got in my EVH cab but of course the Warehouse guitar speaker version of celestial that’s why I keep just calling that anniversary speaker because it’s the name is just too long
Mick Thomson did that on one of the slipknot records.
@@travisschuster4676 that’s what’s in my 212 cabinet right now and it crushes
@@Waycooljr5 mick knows tone 🤘🤘
The G12H30 reminds me of WGS speakers not sure which one though.
@belligerentamateur hey why did you put wood between your amp and cab? Am I missing something here?!
I did that so I could fit the Gravity CAB mic stand clamps on top of the amp. The wood just acts as a spacer
You need to start wearing Celestions around your neck like Flava Flav wears clocks.
That'll make my neck strong af
@@TheOtherJohnBrowne It will match your beefy tone and beefy riffs! Side note- if you can get your hands on a G12TAD-30 from Tube Amp Doctor it's highly recommended. As you may already know it's a slightly tweaked version of what you demo'd here.
You're awesome! 😂
Yes! I got to meet some of the guys at TAD through Guitar Summit. They will be sending me their 30th Anniversary speaker!
@@TheOtherJohnBrowne Eff yeah! Hopefully you have time to demo it at some point. And if you live near Worms you can hit those guys up in person any time. ha. I imported a quad of them here to the U.S.. I've got a pair in a 2x12 and when I stumble on an empty cab I intend to load all 4 up. Love your channel bud. Keep doing what you do.
@@divebomb99 Thank you! I really appreciate your support!
I think these are in my EVH 4X12 🤔
Did you swap them out? The stock speaker in the EVH 5150 III 4x12 is a 20w Celestion EVH which is effectively a heritage Greenback
but - the cone cry these speakers exhibit
Funniest German ever 😂
I may be wrong but I think he was born in Ireland.
I'm an Irish national but I was born in Germany which makes me Irish to the Germans and German to the Irish
@@TheOtherJohnBrowne Ah! So cool. Irish and Deutsch blooded American here. And a speaker junky. This explains why I dig your channel so much. Mein Bruder von einer anderen Mutter! 🙂
Well, the Irish explains the humour.