Me and my 2 year old boy loved watching this latest piece of machinery from Case IH. He loves his Case IH toy tractors and this video made his evening right before bedtime.
I am 47 and still have all my toy tractors, been collecting for years, not so much recently as I prefer to buy the Dealer editions and my nearest are about 4 to 5 hours away. I just bought a Farmall Cub to restore, my suburban neighbors don't quite know what to think but my gambrell red barn shed should have tipped them off.
It’s amazing how far planters and tractors progressed in the past 20 years! What’s the new tractors gonna be like in year 2040??? 1 million bucks and make 1 pass and cover 20 acres! Who knows!
I would like to see implement widths of 83 feet. Because it divides even over one mile wide. A field 40 rods wide, thats 8 perfect passes, finishing on the same end you started with. It's precisely 82.5 feet into 5,280 feet. That gives you 64 passes.
1 thing everybody everybody forgets about on these new planters that say I cant believe they are using a 620 over a magnum 380 or so is hydraulics and electrical output That 380 has less hydraulic pressure and maybe even enough outlets that this planter requires. Now the some of the old cyclos had what 1 line for raise lower a line for folding and a pto pump to run the fans. Now a deere planter cause that's what I'm more used to has anywhere from 6 to 8 hydrolic lines to run raise lower, folding, fans, hydraulic down pressure. Now you can still get a planter that has less hydraulic needs as the white planters still use a pto pump to run the fans. Great job on the videos bigtractorpower makes me miss the midwest everytime I see your videos
Very cool. AC built great planters. Two miles from the field in this video stands a building that housed the number one Allis-Chalmers corn planter in the United States.
This might be my favorite video recently! That says something, the others are good competition as well. I love the background you provide on how these expensive machines can be economical for the farm and the considerations the owners make when deciding on equipment, both in the video and your comment replies here. How will you know where to film now that you can't hear the planters from across the state lines any more? Haha Please send a big thank you to your friend for letting us visit his operation!
I have never grown corn in conditions like this so I may be wrong but when you was digging in the residue showing how good a job the planter was doing you moved some of the trash and the seed was laying right there on top of the ground and the planter trench was laying wide open. That does not seem like a good planting job to me. Again, I have never planted under these conditions so I could be wrong. I have planted a lot of acres of ground that has been plowed and worked though.
I hope that guy knows what he’s doing. I’m not impressed with how that looks after it’s planted. Why aren’t they running row cleaners and spiked closing wheels in those conditions? Seed appeared shallow too. I would have been doing a lot more digging for seed if I was running that thing
I'm no expert but one big advantage in leaving the stubble is that it holds the water well in the expected *spring like conditions*(rainy and wet). I can't think of a better start to a growing Season than this one 2020 save for the wind. Not nearly the disaster that last year was. Prices are going to be rock bottom this year for obvious reasons so what works and what doesn't will be on full display this Year no doubt!
@Rick-fx8lh most Case planters, ours included, have 1 large rubber closing whell on the back, similar to the old planters from the 1950s. He has the Deere style closing system option. I would use spike closing wheels if I were him too
Now that is impressive. And I was really surprised how quiet it was! I’m a Deere guy but I can definitely appreciate an amazing machine! Thanks BTP huge fan love the channel good sir!
What was dragging on the ground behind the tractor? Chain? Great video as always. Crazy to think it’s a million dollars just these two pieces of equipment.
That 2160 is a lot quieter for sure. We have a 1265 Early Riser, which would basically be the same frame as this planter but a generation earlier set up with 36 rows for 20 inch soybeans, and that thing is basically a jet taking off in terms of noise. The only thing I really don't like about the 1265, which maybe they improved with the 2160, is that they're a pain to get folded on a hill with any sort of side slope which is a pain if you farm the hills like we do.
It is industrial machine that is a big investment to cover the acres in a timely manner. Construction equipment comes at a similar cost to a contractor building structures or roads.
This area is a mix of no-till, subsoiling and vertical tillage. No-till farming was invented in the town I filmed this planting set up in back in 1962. Sometime I need to do a video history on the first No-Till farm.
Is it using GPS to position the planter as it is rarely using the side marker arm ? If not how does the driver get his reference points to know where to plant in a no till field?
Fishingfool2017 Some of them were really bouncing! And around our part of the world, I always thought that no-till planting yielded the smoothest planter ride. If the ground ain't rocky the units just gliiide.
This field was harvested north to south in the fall and he was planting it east to west. This farm normally runs a tillage pass ahead of corn but this year planting is getting late. Normally corn planting starts March 15. This was the farm’s first field planted on 3/30/20. They started at 5:00 pm and finished at 7:00 pm. First field planted in town. They decided to no-till to get going. They planted the field and today it’s rained all day again. More rain on the way.
Extremely nice planter. One question though; why plant on 30" rows? Down south we plant on 36" or 38" rows seems like the corn planted on 30" rows yields better what's the advantage?
@Wikkitt Klown Lol... can't correct anyone else when I don't know myself. But I worked on a farm for over 10 yrs and it was just a "normal" thing to plant wide spaced rows
I didn’t joy your video and I have one joyed all your videos since I started watching I am wondering though is when did you start this RUclips channel really like it please answer this question?
I got 2 questions: Does No-till farms ever till their fields? Wouldnt the compaction be too much after a while? And Do you think that there will be any Case IH Steiger with LSWs in any videos this year? Or any other brands...
Cover crops help with the compaction and that residual wheat helps alot. Now some areas like us in the northern states cover crops are either nonexistent or just starting to look into cover crops
I am throwing out this idea hoping to get some feedback from the channel members. I have been working in the farm machinery industry for over 20 years now. As far as I can remember, tractors and implements keep getting bigger and bigger and that is great. My though is this. Instead of running one 60ft machine, would it not make more sense to run 2 30ft machines? My thinking is this, If a farmer was to run 2 machines, he could rotate them (one at a time) on a more timely manner always having a newer machine and an older machine in operation. This would allow the farmer to ALWAYS plant even if he has a breakdown. NEW machines are notorious for having glitches in the first and second year of operation. If a farmer's new machine is down awaiting repair, he can still plant with his older machine. I have many many customers that rely one only one machine for their lively hood. My dealership is very good at loaning equipment but there are limitations as to how many loaner units we have available. If a customer had a second unit available, they could still get seed in the ground in the optimal planting window. What do you guys think?
I don't know the science behind all the sound studies but it would seem to me that when comparing two items on one subject that you want all the other factors to be exactly the same. Having said that, I did notice that one field you used was over tilled soil and the other was over a grass field. That would introduce a variable into the test that is not a controlled factor to evaluate the subject being tested. Basically I am saying please try two tilled fields for a comparable result that will enhance the accuracy of the result.
If the US equipment market is anything like the UK I'd be very surprised if the farmer paid anything near list price for the planter and tractor (assuming that they are not on a lease).
Good topic. You are right that is why I state “list” price from the website. Their are trade ins, discounts etc... I do not want to get into a farms business. People do often ask “how much is that” so I use the company websites to show the sticker price.
No one ever pays anywhere near list price, I don’t know why all farm machines have such an inflated price, It’s very typical to get between 20 and 35% of list price.
i am curious what the emergence is gonna look like. the hairpinning was atrocious. he must not be notilling enough acres to justify trash whippers. too rolling of ground to striptill?
Yeah even at 47 openers that 620 is overkill, doesn't matter if it's 60ft or 90ft it's the amount of runs, i ran a JD 8970 (400hp ish) on a Morris Contour 51ft with 51 shanks with 4inch paired row sweep and it could pull up to 6mph comfortably (5mph is desired). But man was that Cih rig quiet tho.
Case IH recommends the 620. They did allot of testing of the 2160 here in WKY and it was on a 620 then as well. It’s a very heavy duty planter. The farm feels very good with the 620 up front over a 470 in the conditions they are running in.
Am I the only one who caught that the seed wasn’t even in soil? If that was my no tilled field I’d be scared shittless. Operator isn’t checking seed depth
Looks to me that putting in the seeds with the grass and weeds you would be shooting yourself in the foot. The corn or soy beans will be competing with the grass and weeds.
maybe a bit overkill, you probably could have used a weaker tractor, just for the planting.. BUT listen to bitractorpower.. ::: a smaller tractor would have to use same ore even more fuel and run slower on lower gears to pull it so total fuel use would be higher! ALSO lets say they plant 8000 acres, thats many tons of corn soybeans that have to be pulled by graincarts,, and a big strong tractor can pull bigger loads than a smaller tractor. So yes its a big cost to buy 1 big tractor, biut you save money over time by paying fewer workers
Me and my 2 year old boy loved watching this latest piece of machinery from Case IH. He loves his Case IH toy tractors and this video made his evening right before bedtime.
I am 47 and still have all my toy tractors, been collecting for years, not so much recently as I prefer to buy the Dealer editions and my nearest are about 4 to 5 hours away. I just bought a Farmall Cub to restore, my suburban neighbors don't quite know what to think but my gambrell red barn shed should have tipped them off.
Thank you for highlighting the quiet operation of these new planters. That is a great feature.
I've been waiting for this planter on farm Sim and it's finally here
Great video awesome looking tractor and planter
That’s a neat set up the early riser has been around for a long time
It’s amazing how far planters and tractors progressed in the past 20 years! What’s the new tractors gonna be like in year 2040??? 1 million bucks and make 1 pass and cover 20 acres! Who knows!
I would like to see implement widths of 83 feet. Because it divides even over one mile wide. A field 40 rods wide, thats 8 perfect passes, finishing on the same end you started with. It's precisely 82.5 feet into 5,280 feet. That gives you 64 passes.
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Amazing video!! I especially liked how you compared the savings!! Thank you!!
1 thing everybody everybody forgets about on these new planters that say I cant believe they are using a 620 over a magnum 380 or so is hydraulics and electrical output That 380 has less hydraulic pressure and maybe even enough outlets that this planter requires.
Now the some of the old cyclos had what 1 line for raise lower a line for folding and a pto pump to run the fans.
Now a deere planter cause that's what I'm more used to has anywhere from 6 to 8 hydrolic lines to run raise lower, folding, fans, hydraulic down pressure. Now you can still get a planter that has less hydraulic needs as the white planters still use a pto pump to run the fans. Great job on the videos bigtractorpower makes me miss the midwest everytime I see your videos
That is a nice planter. I'm restoring an old AC 2 row snap couple planter. It is amazing how far agriculture has come.
Very cool. AC built great planters. Two miles from the field in this video stands a building that housed the number one Allis-Chalmers corn planter in the United States.
@@bigtractorpower I would love to get up with those folks. I'm having a heck of a time finding old AC parts for a couple of my projects.
blackhillfarms@gmail.com if you don't mind giving me a little info.
This might be my favorite video recently! That says something, the others are good competition as well. I love the background you provide on how these expensive machines can be economical for the farm and the considerations the owners make when deciding on equipment, both in the video and your comment replies here. How will you know where to film now that you can't hear the planters from across the state lines any more? Haha Please send a big thank you to your friend for letting us visit his operation!
Great Video as always. Love to hear about the machinery economy of scale this operation is utilizing. Farm Smart!!
Thank you for watching.
Thank you for GREAT vids! Absolutely love it
Thank you for watching. The 2160 is a great planter.
I LOVE to see the red equipment in the field. Nice rig!!
Beautiful Design . Thanks for video.
Another great video BTP. Big bucks planting 2020 crops but fast and efficient
I have never grown corn in conditions like this so I may be wrong but when you was digging in the residue showing how good a job the planter was doing you moved some of the trash and the seed was laying right there on top of the ground and the planter trench was laying wide open. That does not seem like a good planting job to me. Again, I have never planted under these conditions so I could be wrong. I have planted a lot of acres of ground that has been plowed and worked though.
I hope that guy knows what he’s doing. I’m not impressed with how that looks after it’s planted. Why aren’t they running row cleaners and spiked closing wheels in those conditions? Seed appeared shallow too. I would have been doing a lot more digging for seed if I was running that thing
I'm no expert but one big advantage in leaving the stubble is that it holds the water well in the expected *spring like conditions*(rainy and wet). I can't think of a better start to a growing Season than this one 2020 save for the wind. Not nearly the disaster that last year was. Prices are going to be rock bottom this year for obvious reasons so what works and what doesn't will be on full display this Year no doubt!
Down where he at will probably work with that type of ground here in Indiana it would have to be a little deeper but looks like it doing a good job
@Rick-fx8lh most Case planters, ours included, have 1 large rubber closing whell on the back, similar to the old planters from the 1950s. He has the Deere style closing system option. I would use spike closing wheels if I were him too
This is so beautiful, thanks for the sound comparison, that old type planters sounds like a jet engine when the fan winds up
It is a significant difference. Case IH has made huge advancements in the fan noise level.
@@bigtractorpower do you know if John deere is doing anything like this?
@SuperGoldnut lol
I grew up trying to get a 8 row cultivater through a 6 row gap in the fence. Now I'm watching a 42 row planter.
Sam Morris Well, it ain't so much the number of rows as the width. Still, 60 ft is 60 ft!
Sam Morris It’s a 47 row planter !
@@dennishayes65 yea I misspoke. But shouldn't It be 48 rows?
My dad had an IH dealership that started with his dad ..sold the international Titan in 1918..things have come a long way
Now that is impressive. And I was really surprised how quiet it was! I’m a Deere guy but I can definitely appreciate an amazing machine! Thanks BTP huge fan love the channel good sir!
Thank you for watching.
I build these planter's. It is truely remarkable just how much goes in to those machines.
That's good stuff!
Nice set up,and a great video thanks.😎
Love that RED POWER
Excellent presentation. Informative, specific and well-described. - Dean from Minnesota
Thank you Dean.
Awesome! Thanks for posting. Good on ya mate.
Quite a setup, and great footage once more. Roughly how many farms do you call on in Western Kentucky? It seems you have no shortage of material.👍
What was dragging on the ground behind the tractor? Chain? Great video as always. Crazy to think it’s a million dollars just these two pieces of equipment.
Awesome rig👌🏻
WOW GREAT VIDEO LOVE WATCHING THANKS ALLEN
Sorry for not watch tbis video because I was asleep
The good thing is the video will be here to see anytime. Thank you for checking it out.
Very impressive outfit!
Thanks again, BTP. I gotta wonder how the Case-IH engineers quietened down the planters that much in 6 years!
great channel great content keep up the great work
Very very nice
That 2160 is a lot quieter for sure. We have a 1265 Early Riser, which would basically be the same frame as this planter but a generation earlier set up with 36 rows for 20 inch soybeans, and that thing is basically a jet taking off in terms of noise.
The only thing I really don't like about the 1265, which maybe they improved with the 2160, is that they're a pain to get folded on a hill with any sort of side slope which is a pain if you farm the hills like we do.
Goodnight !!! Farmers are zillionaires
It is industrial machine that is a big investment to cover the acres in a timely manner. Construction equipment comes at a similar cost to a contractor building structures or roads.
and the point to your ridiculous comment is ??
Just amazing the equipment today. Just think how a farmer from 100 years ago would react.
Cool Video
Thank you for watching.
Really nice equipment👍 Nobody does no till around here.
This area is a mix of no-till, subsoiling and vertical tillage. No-till farming was invented in the town I filmed this planting set up in back in 1962. Sometime I need to do a video history on the first No-Till farm.
bigtractorpower That would be really interesting👍
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Wow. Some kid really likes Transformers!
@bigtractorpower Do you have more video fotage from the wheat harvest/soybean planting 8:09 in to this video? / sweden
I converted my 16/31 1200 PT to precision units and found they use way less air flow to create the same vacuum. Lots quieter now.
Those early 1200s were extra loud. Very cool to hear.
Is it using GPS to position the planter as it is rarely using the side marker arm ? If not how does the driver get his reference points to know where to plant in a no till field?
Loevely set up, but that thing is begging for speed tubes - i cant believe that all of the horses in that 620 is being used ;)
He must be planting that field at an odd angle because that plant is bouncing pretty good. Needed a tillage pass before he planted to smooth it out.
Fishingfool2017 Some of them were really bouncing! And around our part of the world, I always thought that no-till planting yielded the smoothest planter ride. If the ground ain't rocky the units just gliiide.
This field was harvested north to south in the fall and he was planting it east to west. This farm normally runs a tillage pass ahead of corn but this year planting is getting late. Normally corn planting starts March 15. This was the farm’s first field planted on 3/30/20. They started at 5:00 pm and finished at 7:00 pm. First field planted in town. They decided to no-till to get going. They planted the field and today it’s rained all day again. More rain on the way.
bigtractorpower thanks for info!
That seed did not seem to be very deep in the ground, was it pretty shallow or was it my view?
Extremely nice planter. One question though; why plant on 30" rows? Down south we plant on 36" or 38" rows seems like the corn planted on 30" rows yields better what's the advantage?
@Wikkitt Klown Lol... can't correct anyone else when I don't know myself. But I worked on a farm for over 10 yrs and it was just a "normal" thing to plant wide spaced rows
In Australia ,36" rows are common mainly in dry land conditions and the ease of using inter row cultivation machinery.
This is the "King Tiger" of tractors or so it seems.
WJack97224 hopefully more reliable than the tiger II 😂
40yrs ago I use to plant around 40 acres of corn with a 185 mf it cost about 6k new when it was bought in around mid 60s
Filled full of seed is 2 million bucks in front of you hard to believe makes the 12 row getting 200 done in a day seem so long ago
When did Case IH change their row units? Is that new this year?
I build these planters.They changed the row units about 3 yrs ago
I’d like to see that in not so perfect conditions! 1 soft spot and that heavy planter would sink!
bonjour .je voudrais savoir, combien de vitesse d' avanssement y a t' il sur le ih 620 quad a 4 chenille.merci de me repondre.congratulations.
That's some machine.
I didn’t joy your video and I have one joyed all your videos since I started watching I am wondering though is when did you start this RUclips channel really like it please answer this question?
I got 2 questions:
Does No-till farms ever till their fields? Wouldnt the compaction be too much after a while?
And Do you think that there will be any Case IH Steiger with LSWs in any videos this year? Or any other brands...
Dahlmasen some farmers will rip (subsoil) every few years. Nowadays they make minimum till shanks that cause almost no disturbance to the residue
Cover crops help with the compaction and that residual wheat helps alot. Now some areas like us in the northern states cover crops are either nonexistent or just starting to look into cover crops
I can’t get over planting in a field with lot of green grass/weeds in it. Looks like the corn would have to complete for the fertilizer in the field?
The field was sprayed with herbicide. The weeds were already dying as the planter was running. .
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I am throwing out this idea hoping to get some feedback from the channel members. I have been working in the farm machinery industry for over 20 years now. As far as I can remember, tractors and implements keep getting bigger and bigger and that is great. My though is this. Instead of running one 60ft machine, would it not make more sense to run 2 30ft machines? My thinking is this, If a farmer was to run 2 machines, he could rotate them (one at a time) on a more timely manner always having a newer machine and an older machine in operation. This would allow the farmer to ALWAYS plant even if he has a breakdown. NEW machines are notorious for having glitches in the first and second year of operation. If a farmer's new machine is down awaiting repair, he can still plant with his older machine. I have many many customers that rely one only one machine for their lively hood. My dealership is very good at loaning equipment but there are limitations as to how many loaner units we have available. If a customer had a second unit available, they could still get seed in the ground in the optimal planting window. What do you guys think?
Whoa!
Thank you for watching.
Great video! I would love to see another video on how good the stand is planting without a coulter or row cleaners.
They also save on the cost of a second operator when planting beans. Finding good operators is very hard to do nowadays.
You are correct. They are cutting wheat at the same time so one less planter means one more truck driver to move the crop out.
how many millions is this machine?
I don't know the science behind all the sound studies but it would seem to me that when comparing two items on one subject that you want all the other factors to be exactly the same. Having said that, I did notice that one field you used was over tilled soil and the other was over a grass field. That would introduce a variable into the test that is not a controlled factor to evaluate the subject being tested. Basically I am saying please try two tilled fields for a comparable result that will enhance the accuracy of the result.
If the US equipment market is anything like the UK I'd be very surprised if the farmer paid anything near list price for the planter and tractor (assuming that they are not on a lease).
Good topic. You are right that is why I state “list” price from the website. Their are trade ins, discounts etc... I do not want to get into a farms business. People do often ask “how much is that” so I use the company websites to show the sticker price.
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No one ever pays anywhere near list price, I don’t know why all farm machines have such an inflated price, It’s very typical to get between 20 and 35% of list price.
Does it work like Deere xterm
At 8000 acres how long will the equipment last for the payback
Amoazing
Same farm as the two 3140 from last week ?
Same farm same field. This is 2020. The turbo tills in that video are from footage filmed in 2014.
@@bigtractorpower okay. That makes since. I was confused for a bit.
@@bigtractorpower hey. Not sure it matters now but 7 springs is having an auction and they have some 915 V rippers coming up for auction.
i am curious what the emergence is gonna look like. the hairpinning was atrocious. he must not be notilling enough acres to justify trash whippers. too rolling of ground to striptill?
It should come up just fine. I will go back to the field when the crop is up.
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Maybe equipment cost is not much when compared to the land value of thousands of acres of cropland.
It is an investment to get the crops in at the right time.
Yeah even at 47 openers that 620 is overkill, doesn't matter if it's 60ft or 90ft it's the amount of runs, i ran a JD 8970 (400hp ish) on a Morris Contour 51ft with 51 shanks with 4inch paired row sweep and it could pull up to 6mph comfortably (5mph is desired). But man was that Cih rig quiet tho.
Case IH recommends the 620. They did allot of testing of the 2160 here in WKY and it was on a 620 then as well. It’s a very heavy duty planter. The farm feels very good with the 620 up front over a 470 in the conditions they are running in.
Am I the only one who caught that the seed wasn’t even in soil? If that was my no tilled field I’d be scared shittless. Operator isn’t checking seed depth
Where is this at?
Hopkinsville, Kentucky.
bigtractorpower ok. Cool
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Those case are bad for the camera lens, don't film too many of them.
NoTill =No Crop! Nice setup but poor seed coverage in my opinion
Lot of farms (I feel like) are doing that no till. I don't really know if it's bad or good🤔
You probably don't have to refill that often.
Looks to me that putting in the seeds with the grass and weeds you would be shooting yourself in the foot.
The corn or soy beans will be competing with the grass and weeds.
More than likely that gets sprayed, if it isnt already!
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right by H&R haha
Loyal customer 😁. Looks good having red running across the street and behind the dealership.
Didn’t look like good seed to soil contact, looks like it could use some row cleaners
Case says John Deere is copying them , now case is coping John Deere with interplant.
I can't believe you didn't notice it had jd closing wheels on it also
Planter is still noisy lol
isnt a 620 a little excessive😂
No it’s a heavy duty planter. Case IH recommends it.
bigtractorpower oh i thought that thing could be pulled by like a magnum 380
maybe a bit overkill, you probably could have used a weaker tractor, just for the planting.. BUT listen to bitractorpower.. ::: a smaller tractor would have to use same ore even more fuel and run slower on lower gears to pull it so total fuel use would be higher!
ALSO lets say they plant 8000 acres, thats many tons of corn soybeans that have to be pulled by graincarts,, and a big strong tractor can pull bigger loads than a smaller tractor.
So yes its a big cost to buy 1 big tractor, biut you save money over time by paying fewer workers
Damnit. Second.
Is all your video only for American people to understand????????????
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