J. Krishnamurti - Malibu 1970 - Small Group Discussion 7 - What is order?
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- J. Krishnamurti - Malibu 1970 - Small Group Discussion 7 - What is order?
Summary:
Order and disorder.
Why does the mind accumulate?
How do you receive something that is not of the mind?
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At 1:12:00 to the end of this discussion hands on, he nails it completely. Beautiful mind, noble soul, thank you for your inexhaustible offer to all of us 🌹🌹🌹
My God what a discussion. It is Life changing.
Best Video of Him.....PERIOD
Has anyone watching these ever ended anything. Just by seeing a thing the way he discusses, see fear, jealousy, ect. And ending it? I’ve seen, but never been able to maintain that frame of reference. There’s is always a return, and I’m caught up again.
I did…it’s freeing
He is the BOSS n the BOSS is alway right. A man par excellence. The best gift to humanity.
"God runs after such mind- not you seeking or waiting, but that means work." Emptying mind,, silence, love and compassion ....
“ you don’t have to run after god , god runs after you”
شكرا جزيلا لكم لإتاحة الفرصة لمتابعة هذا الفيديو الذهبي 🌷🌷🌷
15:00 "Order is essential .. otherwise, I can't see clearly. The mind is blurred.." One will not be aware of the blurred mind unless he/she gets at least partial clarity. To get to CLARITY, which is not accidental, meditation is essential. The RIGHT kind of meditation which J.K. is talking about.
到了 謝謝你 J LOVE YOU THANK YOU
Gracias 🐜
52:18🌟
Date: Saturday the 28th of March 1970, at 4 p.m.
How do you know?
@Crete Were you in this?
LOVE ❤️
Happy 👍
What a man...
Génial ! Thank
Friegntened of being empty... Right
終極真理!!! 50~ 52 分鐘 我看到了那個 那個是跟 老師一樣的地方嗎 還是還有呢... 還有那個是甚麼 哈哈
Hallo an Alle!
Wie ich gerade sehe sind hier nur "kommentare" auf englisch! Gibt es denn auch deutsche oder deutschsprachige mitmenschen, die , genau wie ich, an den vorträgen von krishnaji interessiert sind? Ihren horizont erweitern wollen und einfach nur sein wollen?
Mit ganz lieben Grüßen Elias
Natürlich gibt es Menschen wie du in der Welt die deutsch sprechen und Krishnamurti zuhören ! Aber leider treffen sie nur sehr selten aufeinander!
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He wasn't satisfied after the talk, he wasn't being understood.
Our problem is we try to create the positive out of the conscious, out of what's already been which is already in a state of decay. The real positive comes from the negative though we only see things as positive and negative because what hasn't been, what is new can only be conceived by the conscious mind in the negative even though if the mind was empty of the old and let it go it would be ready to meet the new without obstruction so the new and old would be one unitary movement not creating the friction in which the new energy is only seen as valid in energizing the old which is the accumulated constipated consciousness we take to be ourselves and our world. When the new energy interferes with the old accumulated energy and creates havoc to its' order we see that as malfunction, mental illness, breakdown etc while previous generations and some cultures today see it as demon possession or whatever but its' clear the mind has to be free of the old, put it in its' place as expended energy and allow the new energy we've been conditioned to see as an uninvited gatecrasher in the endless party of the past we call our existence to become the host of our lives.
"Totally different quality" K says. Quantitative quality? Is accumulation a way of conditioning ... Technological accumulation builds knowledge and skills- experiential quality?
Psychological accumulation is conditioning- quantitative burden, when it must be discovered- exposed? But by keep accumulating, it can be more difficult to excavate ... ?
Yup. The conditioned, mechanistic mind can accumulate knowledge about itself forever if it doesn’t understand the mechanism.
Exactly, if the mind does not perceive its own mechanism, it goes on analysing... That process never resolves, it is a division that has no end. We could say that it is infinite.
And here a beautiful flower opens up, now that I see it. The movement of thought is infinite: everything can be subdivided, analysed, refuted, the opposite pole can always be found. The fragments that inhabit thought are pareidolias, subatomic particles, ephemeral... However, their mechanism implies a limit in itself: it supposes the infinite repetition of the same pattern, which supposes a monodimensional reality, a thread, something very limited. It would remind us of the geometry of a fractal, an infinite entity, but limited, repetitive.
By contrast, the timeless instant, the now, the empty, unfragmented mind, is a finite but unlimited whole. Being finite, there is structure, there is order, not everything goes. But being limitless, it has no space or time and nothing outside of it, in the common sense of these magnitudes. The now always existed and will always exist, and nothing is excluded from it.
Something that has never been generated, if we look at it closely, we will see that it is always being generated. That is, the now is continuous creation. The unitary state of mind (as I call it), the now, knows no creative limits, it is genesis itself. Having nothing to do with repetitive, dead patterns, it is a blooming that never ceases, that has no end. The flower blooms, reaches its splendour and withers, but soon another flower takes its place... A continuous flow of death and life.
This clearly evokes the self-consistent Universe proposed by Stephen Hawking, where imaginary time (of imaginary numbers) is considered and completely changes the idea of the Cosmos. The Big Bang is no longer a singularity, it is just one more event within that self-consistent, finite and borderless reality. It is reminiscent of the shape of a sphere, the shape of the Earth: we are always situated on it, it is finite, but it can be traversed without ever encountering an edge or a wall.😊
Bruh can you cut it down into simpler paragraph with basic eng words @@jorgegarciapla6880
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1:10:00
sort of what i think pumuck... was getting at - your mind is restless (brain rather) ... it will do something. But what happens when all that activity meets with, live and in 3D colour with surround sound, it's own futility ... ill give 3 options ... (a) try harder, you missed something, (b) give up, die? [or is it be free?] , (c) entertain yourself, there is no answer .... - I wont pretend I know which one ...
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Why the mind do accumulat? "Cuz its alive" That guy dont see live, he was never alive. Mind is accumulate cuz its searching for something. im feeling bad now, but when i have all this knowledge, this cars, material things, it mby will be better
I think a i have better answer : we accumulate because this is how our brain works. This is nature. This has nothing to do with our will.
Unfortunately you have not understood the question!
Accumulation is not natural. Its “normal”, based on the norms of the society we live in, which we have created
K pode ter sido , sim , um iluminado , Mas era um cara malandro e bota malandro nisso.. Para esquentar suas palestras, criava suspenses , paralisava a fala no auge do assunto e perguntava à plateia se queria que continuasse ; clamava por respostas dos ouvintes sabendo que não as obteria , mas quando ,raramente, as obtinha , calculadamente desdenhava delas. Parece que era preciso merecer o cachê e manter aberto seu mercado de trabalho.Grande Krishnaji.
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