Duesenberg straight eight, hemispheric OHV SOHC 260 cid
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- In 1920 Dusenberg would introduce at the New York auto show in all new engine configuration design the straight eight, this was the very first eight for the American market, it’s worth mentioning that Duesenberg wasn’t the first to come up with the straight eight configuration for the buying public across the pond in Italy isotta fraschini with the Tipo 8 would be the first straight it to be offered to the public. the Duesenberg straight engine was based off of the race car in-line eight but instead of having three valves per cylinder this one has two valves per cylinder very cool episode with lots of cool vintage ads enjoy
if you’re ever out in Auburn Indiana, check out the Auburn Court in Dusenberg Museum. It looks absolutely incredible and I can’t wait to visit there one day hopefully going in August to the Auburn court and Dusenberg shindig. They have more on that as it gets closer.
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Chicago Beginings.
That’s the one congratulations you got it. I was looking for a good song with horns and I figured this was fitting.
@@jeffreykurth2703 congratulations 👏👏👏
Well Done..✌️
@@johnboydTx Thank you!
Definitly ahead of its time ! The auburn deusenberg cord museum is a must visit !
A must see museum
Absolutely. Been there several times.
Long stroke motor must have had tons of torque. These engine videos are awesome.
I was going to add that 88-100hp might not sound like a lot of horsepower but it’s a long stroke horsepower which is different.. it’s kind of like 34° in Pittsburgh is a different kind of cold. It’s almost comfortable 34° in Florida you just wanna die.. cold to your soul same temperature but different
I’m happy you dig the out episodes I really dig the engine episodes ones that nobody else covered, but are harder to do
@@What.its.like. I do have a question. The neighboring farmer has an old Auburn car frame back in his woods that was carefully made into a hay wagon many years ago. I'd say late 20's-early 30's. Still has wood spoke wheels. Any idea what engine would have been in that Auburn? Thanks!
It depends on the year in the car and a lot of other things I’m not sure..
Visited the Cord Auburn Duesenberg Museum in March 2024.
Put it on your Automotive Bucket List, it is hard today to imagine walking into that place and ordering a Duesenberg Model SJ
That is what a dealership should look like in my opinion chandeliers a grand experience. I’ve never been there I’ve seen pictures I’m going to the Auburn court and Duesenberg shindig this year, so I’ll definitely going to go this year. I can’t wait. =) looks like a stellar place
Duesenbergs were ahead of there time.
Low RPM High Torque.
The revolutionary and unique NORDBERG radial 2-stroke gas engine.
Great add =)
1928 car//been thee 6 years in a row //love the place
Are you going out for the Auburn cord and Dusenberg shindig in August? I really want to go this year. I couldn’t go in years past had other obligations to for fill but I don’t have those obligations anymore so I’m definitely going to try to go.
I really enjoy watching this “channel”. I always learn something new and interesting.
Thank you I really try to cover stuff that nobody else talks about.. =) glad you dig this channel
I’d like to see you cover the Nash overhead valve Straight 8 that was made from the early 30’s till late 40’s. Heard it was a very dependable motor with I believe dual ignition on some.
I want to cover that engine so bad it is super overlooked super underrated. They also made a six cylinder with seven main bearings. It’s just finding all the information because they made so many different blocks…
Great add its definitely on the list =)
Hi Jay! The original Duesenberg passenger car is mostly forgotten now, but it was a NICE solid car. The engines from some of these cars were used in the Indy 500 during the 1930's and raced for several years, until the formula was changed and the "stocker" engines were no longer able to be used. The Dusenberg brothers actually sponsored the cars in the 1930-31 years making them a works racing team, even though the engines were their old "Model A" ones! WYR the first I want that Millspaugh & Irish bodied roadster. Second MODEL X!!
Awesome choices great information =)
I love the Speedster
Excellent episode. I knew nothing about this engine and as someone who worked in an engine design department it had a lot of cool features. The ram's horn is a nice touch. I'd choose the 1926 Speedster and the 1925 Straight Eight Opera Coupe but it's kinda like choosing my favorite $100 in my bank account. I'd like to see a Continental 6 cylinder Red Seal engine episode.
I would love to do an episode on the Continental red seal engine. Some of the engine information on Continental is very very hard to find. I have a continental book but it doesn’t outline engines which is disappointing..
I’m happy you dig this it took a little while to put it together finding information was very sketchy because a lot of sources said straight eight, but then talked about the dual overhead cam engine, which came later
@@What.its.like. I haven't found much info on the Continental 6 cylinder red seal either. I figure you are more resourceful. Back when I lived in NE Ohio the machinist in the NAPA machine shop I used showed one to me in detail and said he did a lot of them. He said they were used in farm equipment.
Ford Cleveland 351 and 302(AUS)
Awesome that one is coming
WYR: All of them.
Jay Leno has several Duesenbergs, so he knows those cars pretty well. The engine is an AMAZING piece of automotive engineering, and I'd put it in a boat if I could afford it. That car is getting 26.4 miles per gallon, which is better than anything that isn't a Japanese sedan or hybrid. Honda and Toyota sedans get roughly 32 miles per gallon, but the hybrid versions of those same cars get at LEAST 45 miles per gallon. That's ASTONISHING!
I know I watch a lot of Leno’s videos. I’ve been watching Jay Leno‘s garage for a very long time. Been watching it ever since it was just the Internet website big dog garage lol. At least 17 years
Yeah, I have no idea how they can’t get any better gas mileage with direct injection and computers it doesn’t make sense really
Great choices
@@What.its.like. The irony pains me.
Look at the Willys pre war cars with Go Devil engines they got really good MPG
@@troynov1965 What's a "Go Devil" engine?
@@ColtonRMagby Same ones they used in Jeeps during WW2, Willys used them in their pre war cars, some of their post war passenger cars and Henry J
1921 grand Prix is my first choice 👍
I would never say no to Duessenburg not many better 🤔🤷
Great Episode
Happy Motoring ✌️🤠
Dusenberg Grand Prix car would be an awesome experience great choice.. I’ve heard different things about driving them. I’ve heard that they’re very truck like to drive engine is very superior, but transmissions couldn’t handle the power back then.
The J & SJ Duesenberg are unbelievably attractive models, but that red 1926 Speedster is the AC Cobra of the twenties. Even more stylish than the Stutz Bearcat. It is stunning in proportion & style & is one of the few cars that I would leave my family for.
If that long hood doesn't say, "I won every d1ck measuring contest ever", then I don't know what would
Hahaha
What a great comparison to the ac cobra =) one day going to cover the stutz engine which was designed very similar to the duesenburg Straight 8
Cant wait for an episode on the 4 cylinder engines they were advanced for being 4 cylinders. Read about the Dusenbergs having a contract to build Bugatti Ww1 aircraft engines but the contract was cancelled, They also built a 24 cylinder race boat engine.
Me too, =) when researching this episode, I found a lot of information.. that I’m going to hold onto until doing that episode. Hopefully it’s enough… the four-cylinder engine is going to be harder one to do because Duesenberg was an engine manufacturer. At that point in time they put that engine in a lot of different cars, from the information you sent
Thanks again for sending all that information. I really appreciate it. I gotta get that book.
@@What.its.like. You're Welcome. The book is an out of print Crestline book by Don butler titled Auburn Cord Dusenberg, has a lot of info on Auburn, and Mr Cord's business dealings, Lycoming engines, and has a tiny bit of info on the other DeSoto. Good luck finding one they may come up on EBAY and Amazon, that's how I found my Chrysler and Plymouth Crestline books, they covered other car brands too.
I bet this is gonna be a Doozy !
This one was a hard one to put together. I really wanted to do an episode on the Duesenberg walking beam. Ironically, I found a lot of information when looking for information for this episode, but I was able to find some really cool ads.
I’m pretty good at finding things if it’s available to be found. But with that said, there’s a lot of information that’s not on the Internet, I wish blueprints existed on the Internet… I’m pretty sure you guys are gonna enjoy this one. It’s pretty good.
@@What.its.like. Randy Ema has the original blueprints for them. Might check with him. Im sure he has them digitized.
I’ll have to reach out and see if I could get some of that information =)
Was a Doozy since they folded up like a tent since they made cars no one could afford, even rich people during the depression thought it was inappropriate for the time. If they made vehicles like Mercury but made it to where you could could make them luxurious by checking off every option, they would have been more successful, but refused to offer a base model let alone a body from the factory which set them up for failure out of the starting gate. Even a similarly equipped Cadillac V16 from this time period would have offered you the same features for less, gee no wonder why Cadillac survived and Duesenberg didn’t.
Hmm, I wonder if the Edsel grille was inspired from the Duesenberg Model J since they literally have the same shape 🤔. If Ford used the name ‘Duesey’ instead of Edsel, the outcome would have been very different since the shape of the grille and the name would have had some heritage.
Look at early Bugattis vs edsel
That’s honestly the only reason Packard survived. The great depression is because they offered the 115 and 120 series procedures Pred people don’t like those two series but it saved the company. Packard was the only independent American luxury brand to survive the great depression.
Love the engine episodes, Jay. How about doing the Jaguar XK inline 6? 4 wheel hydraulic brakes in 1926 - wow!
four-wheel hydraulic brakes in 1921… I think the car for New York auto show even had them so that would be 1919
I will add that to the list great engine
@@What.its.like.Even better. Thanks 🙂
The 24 get my vote !
Sweet choice
Give me the race car & the Speedster! Thanks, Jay, very interesting!
Sweet choices =)
I'd take one of each.
Awesome =)
GASP! 1924 Speedster!
Nice =)
Ditto, brother.
Closed car in each list.
Funny how you hear a snippet of one Chicago track and have to hear them all. Suggest the original 1970 album, CHICAGO TRANSIT AUTHORITY in its entirety. As finely crafted as every Duesenberg engine.
I love Chicago I think that they’re a drastically underrated band.. =)
Never have
Speedster!
Sweet choice
Why do today's engineer design such engine failures today? Timing chains stretch and wear. All the stupid timing components are over engineered. Gear never failed. They had it right back then ...smarter practical people back then...engineered with common sense, not a computer...
The easy answer is planned obsolescence… back in the day they built stuff to be fixed now they build stuff that when it breaks it cost a fortune to fix it so you have to replace it.. like a new engines like $10,000 but you could buy a junkyard 350 for $400 bucks.. it’s one of those go figures pretty much all comes down to money..
@@What.its.like.You're so right, Jay.
Chain and belt drive sohc and dohc engines are less complex and cheaper to produce than gear or bevel drive sohc/dohc engines. The gear/chain drive is also much lighter.. so it generally revs up quicker and can rev higher, thus producing more power.. for example, Ducati changed from bevel to belt drive for these reasons. Chain/belt drive actually has a lot less components, is easier to service and ultimately more reliable. You see, gears wear too and have to be replaced along with the bearings that they run on. Gears and bevel drives need to be shimmed/adjusted with the correct preload and contact patch .. it's a lot of work compared to chain/belt and so much more expensive to produce and assemble.
Due to advances in manufacturing processes the cost of producing an engine is a fraction of what it cost pre war. Engines have become almost a disposable item rather than an expensive hand built item that is designed to be rebuilt over and over again.
@@jamespotts9836 $10,000 for a disposable engine? Wow...
Man hasn't done anything but electronic controlled in a long time, The rotary and the few others. The Wright Brothers had a shaft drive bicycle.
This engine I suggest is infamous and not American, but is impressive and unfortunately part of our history.
Nakajima Sakae 12
3:12 & 4:50... " the crankshaft rides on 5 main bearings" ... and yet the accompanying diagram says ... "one piece having three main bearings". And there's the picture at 7:33 that shows the crank as having three main bearings. I don't imagine though that the horsepower would overtax the three main bearings.
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Nearby in Indy is the Stutz factory ! I'm told one of the brothers went to work for Stutz ! When
I was there a Dusenberg was on display ! Bearcat grill in the same building ! Open for tours ?
🥝✔️😁
Chicago Begining ✌️
Yep that’s the one JeffreyKurth2703 just beat you for title
Cross flow head as well.
Awesome =) great information
Single OHC and cross flow head. Very advanced.
@stephenholland5930 yes he stated that in his content. However, he missed induction on one side and evacuation on the other. Maybe you commented before you watched.
@@michaelatkins9780 Eh? Not sure what you mean.
@@stephenholland5930 that explains everything. Excuse me, I misjudged your comments.
'23 Roadster, '28 Speedster.
awesome choices
1926 Speedster/1925 Opera Coupe
Awesome choices =)
Mr Castle was ONLY 7 feet tall or so...
26 Duesy
27 X
@@JamesAllmond I know right
Great choices
It's a doozy
It sure is
23 - 24
Speedster both times
1925
Sweet choice
'26 speedster.
'28 speedster
That's a Duese.
That's a Deusy.
Overhead cam means overhead valves- saying OHV and SOHC is redundant
Maybe so, your comment just proves that just about everybody in the car community will complain about anything..
There were engines that had overhead cams, and had horizontal valves technically an overhead valve arrangement, but it’s done completely differently
Give me the speedster
Are
You trying to
Emulate William
Shatner? 🥴
No not on this one
The video seems like it would be interesting, but I just have a hard time listening to every word being emphasized. It is interesting to hear what it would sound like to put emphasis on every word, but it just distracts me.
I have bad allergies and plugged in my ears so can’t hear that well
We also don’t have the budget to get Morgan freeman to voice over..
Monotone is boring
What an irritating narrator.
Real person not a narrator..
Equally irritating comment, go back under the bridge troll
What's the story/deal with the "Packenberg"?
Not sure I even know that story
ISOTTA FRASCHINI is pronounced ....Ee-sotta ...not .....Ai-sotta ...and ..... Frask-eeny not...Frash-eeknee .Butchering those names is a crime against Automotive History ,or at least it should be ...especially now in this balance of time when you can hear it pronounced on any media free of charge .
I got the pronunciation from Jay Leno
ruclips.net/video/ONzvgqs-ggc/видео.htmlfeature=shared
People get so wrapped up in pronunciations..
@@What.its.like. Too bad for you ....use google you will be better off . Jay is a watered down Italian American , I am the real FLUENT thing ...and when he mispronounces Italian names, it makes obvious one thing , rich people can most often be the most ignorant .
@@jd70HJ19 just saying everybody pronounces things differently, also have to take into consideration sometimes people have accent and their accent makes the word sound different.. Leno is considered to be one of the most influential, and knowledgeable people in the car community so I figured he would know how to say it, I ran into somebody that has one told me that correct pronunciation..
Real quick quick question how do you pronounce? Willys jeep…
@@What.its.like. Wrong on all counts ...just because Bush could say NUKLUAR versus the correct Nuclear, and got a following of like minded ignoramuses willing to sound clownish does not mean it should be accepted irrespective of accents ..4 cardinal points. Willys pronounces Wil-lys not any other Weellies or whatever . Do not parrot others bad habits you have a long career ahead what I suggested is not difficult....speak the word into the gadget and it will give you to correct pronunciation. Good luck .
@@jd70HJ19 yes it’s pronounced wil lis…
I have one of those gadgets that speaks pronunciations, but even that is wrong … sometimes when I can’t pronounce a word I use that and people still complain, life is too short to get wrapped up and pronunciations