The Shocking Case of Kitty Genovese: A Story of 38 Witnesses
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2023
- The Attack of Kitty Genovese happened in Queens, New York in 1964.
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Just to be clear, I'm saying the NEWS had mentioned the Kitty Genovese story when talking about Daniel Penny. I'm not saying this case is the same exact situation or who is right or wrong in that matter.
You are always very thoughtful in your videos. Don't worry.
Indeed, two very different circumstances.. One looking for trouble,…One not.
@@LP-jn4tw right (:
Thank you for saying that because these two cases are so NOT similar🤦♀️. What a shame they are saying that. The Marine was protecting others from the the threat. 🤦♀️. Thank you for this vid, as I haven't heard of this tragedy before. Thank you for what you do💯🤍
You actually should worry about your verbiage. You stated Penny “strangled and killed him” and didn’t say according to some reports. That’s libel. Please issue a retraction and apology.
And her murderer lived to be 81 yrs. old.
He was given 3 squares and a cot on the taxpayers dime for decades, while her family probably struggled day after day living with the knowledge that her last few minutes on this earth were absolutely terrifying.
I’m disgusted.
Me too! And sick and tired of working to coddle these worthless jack@$$=$!!! My son's a police officer and had to go thru some BS class to learn about the 'rights' of these offenders and how to handle them so they don't get 'unfair' treatment- like Kitty's family! 😡
Blue states love to show compassion for criminals and murderers. Their victims and their families, not so much. The reason being, Democrats are criminals and the GOP the victims.
If you want the death penalty back in NY, just say it and stop beating around the bush!
I grew up across the street from the Genovese family in New Canaan. Kitty was the sweetest person and had a beautiful soul! Whenever she visited her family from N.Y l always went over to see her. The last time l saw Kitty, she had just bought a new car. She took me and her little brother Frank for a ride. She was murdered just a few weeks later....
Thank you for sharing your story with us. May they all rest in peace.
@@theone2be33how would you know?! Why do people feel the need to say what they did or did not live?
How dreadful,it makes me sick that he lived to be 81.
3 years ago in Malacca Malaysia walking with my family. I heard screams and following the sounds, saw a scumbag punching a woman trying to steal her camera. I yelled and chased him. Nobody at the site did anything. I started yelling for the police and Thank goodness. a group of young men caught him and pulverised him
blood and broken teeth, then handcuffed with no medical help. I felt good about helping to bring this thug to justice.
I will never let a innocent person be in distress like this. That’s my pledge to you people, I hope you take the same for the sake of our kids
RIP Kitty ❤ I had heard various stories regarding her murder, I was not aware 911 was basically created due to the horrible murder and circumstances. 😢
Goes back to what was said in Se7en where it is better encouraged to yell "Fire" and not help, cause more people will come out if the first word is said.
That Looks like faces of the forgotten yellow rose is still there, good guy Ron.
I'm old enough to remember the 1975 made-for-TV movie loosely based on this event. I was only 12 then so obviously the movie made an impression. The movie was heavily promoted at the time and had an excellent, well known cast, including 12-year-old Helen Hunt in a minor role. I just checked and it's called "Death Scream" and the entire movie is available on youtube. Wiki has an article about the film. In 1975 it was widely believed that the murder had many, many witnesses (and the promos for the TV movie featured this) but, as you mention, that's no longer believed to be true in the case of the actual murder.
Thank you. I just looked this movie up. Wow! Whole cast of well known actors and actresses from back then. I saved it and will watch it later. Love me some Kate Jackson!
Such a horrible story. I can’t imagine knowing this happening and not calling the police. I think the yellow rose was from Ron from Faces of the Forgotten. So glad you visited her grave and she is not forgotten.
My parents were the hide your head in a hole type of people. I hated it. I was always the take action type of person.
When I was in high school in the 80's a woman was being attacked at the end of our driveway. I threw on the light to get dressed to help her, my mother turned the light off. My parents blocked me from leaving my room and refused to call the police because "someone else would". Luckily someone else did, but no matter how scared I am I refuse to turn a blind eye.
Hopefully your parents have a hard miserable life and their end just a nasty. People like that are the problems of today.
Good for you and shame on your Mother.
I don't see any connection between the rape and murder of a young woman decades ago and a citizen stopping a known felon from assaulting innocent people on a train. Period.
The guy on the subway had multiple people holding him down to protect everyone else. Totally different situation.
Really hammers the awful murder home seeing the actual location - well done
Oh this poor girl!! 🙏 No one called for help? They should be ashamed, how does one sleep knowing they walked away from someone being attacked?? Shameful! 😢
@8:24 that is one magnificent capture of the beautiful trees in the cemetery
I live in a small town of 3k in the CA Foothills. We watch each other’s backs. An attacker would be lucky to still have their life.
attacker is singular. Their is plural. Learn English.
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Thanks
Really appreciate the respect you give to the people and subjects involved in your videos
What's crazy is there are people dining outside just feet away from where it occurred and unknowing of it.
I remember when 911 came out in California. It was in the 80s. It was highly publicized On TV, Radio, Papers, and billboards. We used to dial 0 for the operator and the operator would connect us the police, fire, ambulance, whatever we needed. You could ask the operator the time, the nearest pizza place, the current weather, etc. The operator could connect you to a long distance operator if you needed to call someone out of state. It cost alot so long distance calls were always rushed.
Dialing 0 for the operator was still in use after 911 was in effect. But the opertaor was only used for directory assistance or long distance calls. No emergency calls like before and no time, weather, or extras.
Tragic story about this lady. I wonder why that man targeted her?
I’ve read that story a few times, very sad.
Mr. Mobile Instinct,
Of all the places you’ve visited and demonstrated on this channel, and even those that you may not have posted on here, what are a couple that stick out the most to you and are the most memorable for you?
Awesome content.
thanks for covering this story and taking us to her actual home/ murder spot, i often use google street or see photos and visualise them in my mind, the spot murders happen, this way its much easier to imagine her walking, and getting attacked etc. sad indeed.
You visualize where and how murders occurred...? That's too much, dude. Reflect on your thoughts here.
Just watching a vlog on your other channel and up this one pops, I'll be back to watch this one in a bit 😁
What is the other channy?
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@@choossuck7653 it's an exceptional channel, Chris is great 😊
I can't imagine seeing this & not helping her. 😥
RIP Kitty ❤
Not unusual for a major US city, esp. NYC and even more so now.
Between diffusion of responsibility, the inclination to mind your own business and Good Samaritan lawsuits, this is now commonplace.
The only difference now is the phones would get whipped out and streaming beginning.
We appreciate your dedication and consistency. God bless you.
Being lifelong Bronx resident and a NYC Police Captain, this was a famous case. I did a paper on this in grad school. There was some discrepancy about the number 37. In revisionist history they try to claim the 37 number is way off, but its best to leave police work to the police, and not to newspaper reporters looking to revise history. The problem is the Chief of Detectives had lunch with a NY Times reporter and told him the famous 37. Forgetting that the chief is a cop. A witness can be an eyewitness and ear witness. I forget the breakdown but between those who saw it and those who heard it, the number adds up to 37.
Unfortunately there were conspiracies at the time since Kitty was gay, not accepted at the time. Great video.
Sad something that tragic was seen or heard by so many people and nobody does anything.
At least the people did something about the dangerous man on the subway threatening everyone with violence.
Imagine having to run to a Police call box?? Or even home to call 911. Ugh
Great public interest story! This was a super hard lesson for many when this terrible act occurred nearly 60 years ago!! To be fair.....or to give a great story on the polar opposite case where 911 service was botched up and presumably tightened up, you need to report on the equally sad and violent case of Denise Amber Lee in Sarasota/Port Charlotte County Florida. We were living right there at this time in 2008 and this true story crime is as interesting as it is sad and a tough lesson!! The sheriff father of this poor woman pushed for 911 reform immediately afterwards. Jim C.
I can't believe that 37 people witnessed Kitty being attacked by this person and did absolutely nothing about it if they were so frightened to go and help they should have called the police to come out this is truly heartbreaking i can't imagine what poor Kitty parents must have been going through....RIP ... Kitty I'm so sorry for what happened to you didn't deserve this fly high with the Angels 😇 and sleep tight at least you will be with your family now..gone but not forgotten sweet dreams.,safe in God's loving arms 🙏
They did call. Her own friend was there, trying to get the police to respond. Neighbors were yelling at the guy. The media basically completely warped this story in order to make a media sensation.
Did you not watch the video? It was definitely stated that people DID call the police.
@@bobsaget9675 Calling the police isnt enough when an assault is already ongoing. It takes on average 15 minutes for the police to show up. She was killed in minutes. Get a clue, coward.
Shit happens
Why anyone would ever want to live in such a place.
I agree. From the first time I went to New York City as a little girl, I always thought that it was a big dirty dump. I can't believe anyone would want to live there.
Love your videos Chris. You shedding light on these events, murders and crimes is very much appreciated. Most of the stories you share, I have never heard about before.
RIP to Kitty and glad your killer cannot hurt anyone else. Thanks for rhe case.
A story very well told. Thank you for reminding us of this important lesson. The bystander effect is certainly one of our worse instincts.
Appreciate the research you do for you videos. Very informative.
Thanks for the video like always
Another good one Chris. Thank you Sir.
That was great thanks so much Mobile Instinct
That's so sad. Awesome editing as well as the video.
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Thanks for this. I appreciate it.
Awesome vid mobile.
So many interesting topics in the kew gardens/ forest hills area to document!. My backyard!
I remember this, in 1964 I was 12 and I was upset about this. No one helped this woman because they didn't want to "get involved". This woman died because they didn't want to get involved. Whoever is still alive who witnessed this. I don't know how you can live with yourself. NOT DOING ANYTHING! She was crying for help and no one came. Sad, it doesn't say much for humanity, does it?
Another great video thanks 👍
oh faces of the forgotten must have visited her grave as well has he always puts a yellow rose on graves he visits , terrible thing what happened to this women and all those people could have at least went out when seen her staggering who she rests in peace shame he didn't fry though
Thanks
I wish I could visit her grave, so I could clip that plant way down and way back . The trees by the parents grave are maintained, and look like cupcakes. Great video, thank you.
I thought I knew everything about that story.... I was wrong. Thank you, Chris. Awesome video
A difference in the 2 cases was this lady was innocent, guy on the subway wasn't. There's no way I couldn't have done anything to help, I wouldn't have just stood there and looked. A similarity in the 2 cases were the instigators were both black.
Great stories man, since you are in the area, might as well do one of the Amityville house up in Long Island
Its so sad what it takes to finally be heard or get help these days. Glad we now have 9-1-1 but sad it took her murder to get a help line like this.
It must be worse today. How many videos do you see where someone is in need and people are just filming it on their phone
I couldn’t imagine the excruciating pain and terror Kitty experienced. It’s heart wrenching knowing that many women like Kitty have been victim to horrific acts of violence. It’s saddening to now learn that a woman had to gravely suffer and lose her life to essentially save the lives of others. Why is change always instated after an incident, which usually results in someone’s death? Shouldn’t solutions be created to avoid these crimes from happening in the first place!???
Nice job on something Lamont at Large would cover. RIP to Ms Genevieve. Never knew that about 911. To be honest
What happened on the Subway was far beyond what the media is making it out to be. You got a 40+ times arrested homeless dude who was once charged for pushing a woman onto the train tracks, go into a carriage and pretty much yell and demand money or food, cause he no longer cared if he was going to jail or not anymore or even if he died, and you all wanna blame the guy who actually made sure no one else go hurt when he and two others pinned him down and were still having issues doing so. If anyone is guilty here its the NY legal system that let this guy go 40+ times, cause given his history, it was only a matter of time before he killed someone. But because he is black and the man who inadvertently ended his life is white, you all wanna suck up once more cause you are afraid of another "peaceful protest" taking place. Your country is screwed folks. Stay away from the rest of the world least you infect it with whatever it is infecting your brains.
Must be so scary having to ride it everyday & the MTA wants to raise the fee.
I totally agree. It’s also revealing how shitty our media has been for years now.
@@Nmdixon-cu7vm The dude is a Marine, and he was trained to protect and that is exactly what he did. But instead, you got cowards in the media say "Well, this Marine is trained and did not show enough restraint. Sentence him for murder." Instead of saying "We are sorry for putting you and other law abiding citizens in this position." The DA who did not convict the actually real danger to society, has now charged this Marine with manslaughter. Just goes to show, even myself as an ex soldier from my time in the Army, its no longer worth doing the right thing and fighting for your country.
@@Nmdixon-cu7vm the media has always relied on sensationalism because that is what sold papers and gave high ratings on television, nothing has changed Sadly.
A lot of what you're parroting here is twisting of facts into a convenient bullshit pretzel and the rest is no justification for strangling somebody to death. The fact that you bring up race and then descend into a diatribe about it, tells a lot about your agenda, though. Pretty disgusting that you even get likes for this. This channel doesnt deserve that kinda audience...
Heartbreaking 💔😿🙀
crazy, and sad of course, in many cases. i live in Worcester, btw. come on up, and see me! lol, once again, a great video!
My Mom lived in Queens in the 80s and told me years ago about how she was held at knifepoint once in a very public area and nobody did anything about it. Awful
Dang, that plant has to go! How does this lady who's story inspired 911 have such a small covered up plot??? Wild
And the dude responsible lived until 2016??? Even crazier
Let's face it yet again a person of a certain race rapes and murdered a poor girl.and the sheep who all do as there told just watched 😢😢😢
I'm just curious do you record your voice when you walk or ADR? I ask because I would feel weird walking and talking to the camera while there's people around lol.
That is a tragic story, my heart breaks for what happened to Kitty Genovese, So many to not have done anything, that is disgusting. RIP Kitty Genovese, I hope you are flying free with loved ones now.
What a sad story
I remember this so vividly 😢 No one wanted to get involved! So sad and void of humanity. Everyone figured someone else would do it! 🙏🏻😔
Sometimes society understands how terrible some people can be and agree that the person no longer walking the earth is a good thing. I'm sure everyone can think of a few people that society would be far better off without.
That's a sad story
RIP Kitty💐
Carl Ross, opened his door, saw everything, and closed it. Wow.
OMG so sad
Rest In Peace Sweetheart...
Crazy no one helped but didnt want to get involved
While there was no question that the attack occurred, and that some neighbors ignored cries for help, the portrayal of 38 witnesses as fully aware and unresponsive was erroneous. The article grossly exaggerated the number of witnesses and what they had perceived. None saw the attack in its entirety. Only a few had glimpsed parts of it, or recognized the cries for help. Many thought they had heard lovers or drunks quarreling. There were two attacks, not three. And afterward, two people did call the police. A 70-year-old woman ventured out and cradled the dying victim in her arms until they arrived. Ms. Genovese died on the way to a hospital.
But the account of 38 witnesses heartlessly ignoring a murderous attack was widely disseminated and took on a life of its own, shocking the national conscience and starting an avalanche of academic studies, investigations, films, books, even a theatrical production and a musical. The soul-searching went on for decades, long after the original errors were debunked, evolving into more parable than fact but continuing to reinforce images of urban Americans as too callous or fearful to call for help, even with a life at stake.
Psychologists and criminologists called the reluctance of witnesses to involve themselves the “bystander effect,” or the “Kitty Genovese syndrome.” Studies discerned a “diffusion of responsibility,” finding that people in a crowd were less likely to step forward and help a victim. Some communities organized neighborhood-watch patrols. In New York, an emergency call to the police was simplified later in 1964 - from dialing “O” for operator or a precinct or a borough headquarters, to a central police number. The unified 911 system was not established until 1968.
I remember this..
This story makes me sick. People suck. Been punched and stabbed getting involved. Gladly do it again. Don’t know how people live with themselves.
Opening scene of the boondock saints movie. Touched on this.
I believe _"The New Yorker"_ magazine did an in-depth story about this incident, debunking a lot of the common misunderstandings about the details of it. - j q t -
I was bullied mercilessly when I was at school but when the bullies found me on the street and started in on me anyone else around would cross the road, look in a shop window or anything but lend me aid so this story does not surprise me at all.
Very sad story RIP Kitty. I've always been a person that can't stand by and watch someone else get hurt. I will get involved!
Rest In Peace Kitty Genovese
So sad don't know how folks lived with themselves
It's too bad there wasn't a Daniel Penny in the crowd of people who stood around and one videotaped a man being beaten to death in a park, in broad daylight, in front of his 2 to 3 yr old baby who can be heard crying 'daddy' while he's being beaten to death.
But nowadays if you stop a criminal, you become the criminal in this upside-down, backwards world.
Maybe the training for living in an apartment block at that time was to mind your own business and when the shock set in and they told themselves it wasn't that bad they clicked back into that mind set. Just theorising. RIP Kitty.
It's called coward syndrom
I guess being raised in an era where “when seconds count help is minutes away” with the training received wasn’t a bad thing!!!
When I was in my early 20’s and enjoying the night life in RVA I witnessed a stabbing. I ran in the bar and jumped behind the counter and grabbed a “clean” towel. Handed it to someone else to put pressure on the wound because I couldn’t deal with “blood”. The college student later died and it was all over a girl. 🤯
How sad. I used to party in Richmond & consider myself lucky that nothing bad happened. My favorite club was at 4th & Grace.
@@mersea.714 I think we are all lucky!
I remember that event...i can't say i would have intervened but i would have called the police. Sad
I went to college in the late 80s - early 90s and studied this case extensively. Back then, the narrative was still public apathy to extreme violence. All these yrs later, its fascinating to realize it was a media invention. Rip Kitty
Great Video! Thank you! ( Note : There is a Documentary following Kitty G.'s Brother who was High School age at the time of his Sister's Murder. He also believed 'The New York Times' story on what had happened and that sorrow concerning no one caring or helping her screams for help!)( However it was disproven by her Brother, though it took him 50 years to face his deepest sorrow to look into it!)( Her Brother found out in fact that many had called the Police ; as the Brother researched the MicroFish Police Phone Records 50 years later!)( It turned out she had never been sexually assaulted, as a neighbor had ran down towards the screaming of what she thought might be her neighbor friend Kitty G.!)( The Brother did indeed find out 50 years later , as far as apathy of not helping his Sister was mostly a concocted lie to sell Newspapers.)( The Documentary following her Brother on this investigation can be watched for example, via the U.S.Public Library System InterLibrary Loan System.)( Her sad Death, was not in Vain! The 911 System did get started, even though it took until over 45 years to get most American Cities to have it.)(&)( Psychology/ Psychiatry Classes have for years taught the dangers of Apathy, helping the World to be more aware ,and active in intervening to stop or curtail more, things wrong around them in their environment ,surroundings, society! )
I love how your video has a greater historical context. In this case, it indirectly created 9-1-1. Just like how Amber Alert was created after a tragedy, history would not repeat itself again. Hope the poor woman found peace.
No cell phones, numbers for police listed in phone books, needed coins for pay phones. But still I was would have died helping her before I would have just watched her be attacked. Guess that's the difference between being a Texan and being a New Yorker.
I believe the bystander effect only happens in New York City.
I believe it was a late night and streets were not that bustling as they do in the daylight hours... unfortunately she didn't receive any help.
Now they try to say it didn’t happen that way. They try to change facts and history
Great video and story buddy. Keep up the awesome work. Can't wait for the next one.
Why doesn't that cemetery maintain the grounds better and trim the plants overgrowing her grave?
If you tried to help now, and the suspect died, you would be held responsible. I can see why people don’t get involved now. New York is more interested in protecting the suspects. Terrible.
Beyond Sad Just Going Home From Work And Her Life Was Over If I Had Lived There I Would Have Taken Her In To My Home And Called The Police I Would Do What I Could For Her Maybe It Could Have Made A Difference But I Would Have Tried Rest In Peace Beautiful Kitty 💔 And To The Killer Hope He's Burning In Hell
And who the hell put that damn plant in front of her stone!
R.I.P Kitty Genovese
Some people are afraid to get involved because they could get arrested themselves or sued.