Thanks for coming along, if you have any questions about the basic setup for a 3d printer and settings to look at, I've put together this resource as a full introduction to 3d printing miniatures: ruclips.net/video/zsxy1Bxchb0/видео.html
Decided to revisit this video since I described to pull the trigger and get one. This printer kind of has to be viewed in three separate bubbles of a person new to printing, the guy just looking to upgrade, and someone who is experienced with printers since that seems to rapidly shift people’s views of the machine. For a total newbie the CR10 SE is massively easier to set up and get running then my old Ender 3v2. It’s borderline plug in and get to printing. Perfect for a new person to the hobby, but this thing is probably more printer than they need. If your someone looking to upgrade from an older printer this thing is perfect. Everything that was a paint in the ender 3v2 was light years removed with the CR10 SE. Absolutely beautiful replacement. It’s for the people really really into printers this one seems to fall behind. From my own research and people’s complaints I could find is that if you are a person up on all the latest and greatest printers it falls behind or feels like a expensive side grade instead of a full upgrade to other creality printers. A weirdly comparison is saw was to bambu printers that seem to be similarly priced, but at least allegedly more advanced. Now it’s not all sunshine and rainbows for me with the printer as it did scare the hell out of me at one very specific point even if I do consider this a great upgrade to my old hardware. For whatever reason this printer when calibrating itself after a first extremely successful print was over shooting its print bed while trying to level. The hot end would end up behind the bed and then descend past it. That’s whatever mildly annoying, however what damn near gave me a heart attack was when the hot end didn’t raise back up and then tried to shove itself through the bed to get back home as the motors stared grinding and screaming. Had to manually kill the power to stop it and then download a firmware update to fix the issue. I’m not sure what caused this and nobody anywhere has mentioned this issue so perhaps this was a weird one off, but I’m sure to watch this things initial set up every print now.
Decided to check the price on this thing about midway through the video and was shocked at the almost 700 dollar price tag. And then I remembered oh yeah Macca lives on the prison island. USD it’s around 400. Pretty reasonable
You have no idea how much this review helped. I was actually thinking about getting an anycubic kobra 2 in the near future. But now i am rethinking a bit 😄 Finally gonna put my ender 3 to rest. (I had one of those that would constantly break no matter what you did)
This looks right up my alley, maybe not quite yet what I'm looking for since I'm waiting for filament printers to have better detail and speed isn't an issue for me but the speed this company is improving means I expect the type of printer I'm looking for to be right around the corner. What I want is one whose detail is such that I can print out legally distinct B1 Battledroids, and I need a filament based printer because the shed I plan to place my printer in just doesn't have the space for a UV bath on the side.
This will definitely do those things, especially once you slow it down, the linear rails at sub 200mm/s speed gives you excellent accuracy and smooth layers. With PLA/PLA+ you can get the print quality without the fumes, but do avoid ABS and ASA.
I dread to think about your storage space for 3D prints I don't see any 12K! in the printer's description, so can we be sure they're upgrading anything?
If it was a resin printer that would give me quite the chuckle, but being filament, they are a totally different beast, in filament speed seems to be the big selling point for this year's printer crop, and Creality has been trying to get faster for a while, with VERY mixed results.
I'm not gonna lie, this has rekindled me wanting to look at replacing my current machine. I used my Ender 3 (not Pro, not S1, Ender 3) to death until it's head seems to have become completely clogged. Rather than trying to disassemble that nightmare of a head to clear it, any particular recommendations for a newer FDM printer? Can't do resin at my current place.
@@TheOuterCircle Gotcha, I'll take a look. Thanks for the advice! Been long enough since I paid any attention to the hardware that it never really occurred to me just how out-of-date I likely am.
It's crazy, but my original Ender 3 (which still lives) has been through so much, but even when I first got it, Ender 5 was around the corner, and then the CR10 V2 and V3 next generation of printers with all metal and direct extrusion. That was followed by big user interface changes going into the generation after that and a period of designers trying new styles and features and usually missing the mark with the first gen of the new designs. This was followed by a very "play it safe" generation where they just made what they did already, but better, and then the latest generation is the culmination of everything that came earlier, same outward appearance, but improvements in every single area. It's crazy to think of the time frame this happened over, maybe five or six years from Ender 3 to CR10 SE and I wouldn't have thought the quality would be here this quickly, back then. Whole channels used to specialise in trying to make machines that can do what machines do out of the box today. This isn't unique to this brand either, they're all pushing frontiers, and it's great to see as the competition between brands is forcing them to all innovate and do it in a budget friendly way.
How do you think this compares to the Elegoo Neptune 4 Pro? I’ve found resin printers from Creality to be quite hit and miss and wouldn’t buy another. I know their FDM printers have a good rep, but I’ve not really looked at going back to Creality.
There is nothing even close in the Neptune range, the linear rails, the bed levelling system, the maximum top speed are all much worse on the Neptune. I do like the nozzle clean feature on it, and I think the fan behind the hot end might have some utility, but they are in totally different leagues of machine, the Neptune 4 Pro is competing with the Ender 3 V3 KE, realistically, and the KE doesn't need to be manually levelled which is huge. Their resin printers are in an interesting place, but that's a whole other topic. Realistically, if Elegoo or Anycubic is about 1 design generation ahead in resin, as an example, Creality is probably 1 generation ahead in filament, realistically.
Hmm, okay. Thanks for your opinion! I will look into this a bit more. I have a Neptune 2 from a few years ago (or so) and thought the 4 Pro would be the next best step. Especially with the auto bed levelling. Levelling an FDM printer grinds my gears sometimes.. I only use this printer for larger terrain anyway, as I use a Prusa Mini for smaller, more detailed stuff (that doesn’t require resin). One thing that I’m not massively keen on with the Neptunes though, is that they all use an Elegoo version of Cura, which never seems to update like standard Cura does.
On the CR10 SE you do no bed levelling, it does it all. The Neptune (all good machines btw) require you to manually set the level and then it probes that.
The only thing holding me back is customer service. An important part of our purchase is being able to address issues, self inflicted or not. Rumor has it, customer service is absent with Creality. A difficult decision for certain.
DO NOT TRUST THIS VIDEO! Go read some actual reviews on this printer and Creality. If anything goes wrong you'll barely hear from their customer service and if you'll try to return the printer they'll either refuse no matter the law in your area or delay the refund indefinitely. Do your own digging and first of all take into account that this printer is not supported by any other slicer but their own!!!!!!
Thanks for coming along, if you have any questions about the basic setup for a 3d printer and settings to look at, I've put together this resource as a full introduction to 3d printing miniatures: ruclips.net/video/zsxy1Bxchb0/видео.html
Is that Optimus Primal in the thumbnail?
Decided to revisit this video since I described to pull the trigger and get one.
This printer kind of has to be viewed in three separate bubbles of a person new to printing, the guy just looking to upgrade, and someone who is experienced with printers since that seems to rapidly shift people’s views of the machine.
For a total newbie the CR10 SE is massively easier to set up and get running then my old Ender 3v2. It’s borderline plug in and get to printing. Perfect for a new person to the hobby, but this thing is probably more printer than they need.
If your someone looking to upgrade from an older printer this thing is perfect. Everything that was a paint in the ender 3v2 was light years removed with the CR10 SE. Absolutely beautiful replacement.
It’s for the people really really into printers this one seems to fall behind. From my own research and people’s complaints I could find is that if you are a person up on all the latest and greatest printers it falls behind or feels like a expensive side grade instead of a full upgrade to other creality printers. A weirdly comparison is saw was to bambu printers that seem to be similarly priced, but at least allegedly more advanced.
Now it’s not all sunshine and rainbows for me with the printer as it did scare the hell out of me at one very specific point even if I do consider this a great upgrade to my old hardware.
For whatever reason this printer when calibrating itself after a first extremely successful print was over shooting its print bed while trying to level. The hot end would end up behind the bed and then descend past it. That’s whatever mildly annoying, however what damn near gave me a heart attack was when the hot end didn’t raise back up and then tried to shove itself through the bed to get back home as the motors stared grinding and screaming. Had to manually kill the power to stop it and then download a firmware update to fix the issue. I’m not sure what caused this and nobody anywhere has mentioned this issue so perhaps this was a weird one off, but I’m sure to watch this things initial set up every print now.
really smooth looking, been thinking about getting my first printer
Decided to check the price on this thing about midway through the video and was shocked at the almost 700 dollar price tag. And then I remembered oh yeah Macca lives on the prison island. USD it’s around 400. Pretty reasonable
Found one for about $321, this channel is the only reason I found out about Australian import/export tax haha, s/o 🧂 boi
You have no idea how much this review helped.
I was actually thinking about getting an anycubic kobra 2 in the near future. But now i am rethinking a bit 😄
Finally gonna put my ender 3 to rest. (I had one of those that would constantly break no matter what you did)
just buyed today in europe for 265 US Dollars, now I have to wait 48 hours but it's my first 3d printer and I'm impatient lol
what would be a good printer for minis?
how do we tag wokehammer
Those Bad Dragons turned out really well.
This looks right up my alley, maybe not quite yet what I'm looking for since I'm waiting for filament printers to have better detail and speed isn't an issue for me but the speed this company is improving means I expect the type of printer I'm looking for to be right around the corner. What I want is one whose detail is such that I can print out legally distinct B1 Battledroids, and I need a filament based printer because the shed I plan to place my printer in just doesn't have the space for a UV bath on the side.
This will definitely do those things, especially once you slow it down, the linear rails at sub 200mm/s speed gives you excellent accuracy and smooth layers. With PLA/PLA+ you can get the print quality without the fumes, but do avoid ABS and ASA.
@@TheOuterCircle well then, looks like when summer comes around it'll be time to make space in the shed
I dread to think about your storage space for 3D prints
I don't see any 12K! in the printer's description, so can we be sure they're upgrading anything?
If it was a resin printer that would give me quite the chuckle, but being filament, they are a totally different beast, in filament speed seems to be the big selling point for this year's printer crop, and Creality has been trying to get faster for a while, with VERY mixed results.
I'm not gonna lie, this has rekindled me wanting to look at replacing my current machine. I used my Ender 3 (not Pro, not S1, Ender 3) to death until it's head seems to have become completely clogged. Rather than trying to disassemble that nightmare of a head to clear it, any particular recommendations for a newer FDM printer? Can't do resin at my current place.
Well this is fantastic, but if you wanted to look at something cheaper perhaps the Ender 3 V3 KE?
@@TheOuterCircle Gotcha, I'll take a look. Thanks for the advice! Been long enough since I paid any attention to the hardware that it never really occurred to me just how out-of-date I likely am.
It's crazy, but my original Ender 3 (which still lives) has been through so much, but even when I first got it, Ender 5 was around the corner, and then the CR10 V2 and V3 next generation of printers with all metal and direct extrusion. That was followed by big user interface changes going into the generation after that and a period of designers trying new styles and features and usually missing the mark with the first gen of the new designs. This was followed by a very "play it safe" generation where they just made what they did already, but better, and then the latest generation is the culmination of everything that came earlier, same outward appearance, but improvements in every single area.
It's crazy to think of the time frame this happened over, maybe five or six years from Ender 3 to CR10 SE and I wouldn't have thought the quality would be here this quickly, back then. Whole channels used to specialise in trying to make machines that can do what machines do out of the box today. This isn't unique to this brand either, they're all pushing frontiers, and it's great to see as the competition between brands is forcing them to all innovate and do it in a budget friendly way.
How do you think this compares to the Elegoo Neptune 4 Pro? I’ve found resin printers from Creality to be quite hit and miss and wouldn’t buy another. I know their FDM printers have a good rep, but I’ve not really looked at going back to Creality.
There is nothing even close in the Neptune range, the linear rails, the bed levelling system, the maximum top speed are all much worse on the Neptune. I do like the nozzle clean feature on it, and I think the fan behind the hot end might have some utility, but they are in totally different leagues of machine, the Neptune 4 Pro is competing with the Ender 3 V3 KE, realistically, and the KE doesn't need to be manually levelled which is huge.
Their resin printers are in an interesting place, but that's a whole other topic. Realistically, if Elegoo or Anycubic is about 1 design generation ahead in resin, as an example, Creality is probably 1 generation ahead in filament, realistically.
Hmm, okay. Thanks for your opinion! I will look into this a bit more. I have a Neptune 2 from a few years ago (or so) and thought the 4 Pro would be the next best step. Especially with the auto bed levelling. Levelling an FDM printer grinds my gears sometimes.. I only use this printer for larger terrain anyway, as I use a Prusa Mini for smaller, more detailed stuff (that doesn’t require resin). One thing that I’m not massively keen on with the Neptunes though, is that they all use an Elegoo version of Cura, which never seems to update like standard Cura does.
On the CR10 SE you do no bed levelling, it does it all. The Neptune (all good machines btw) require you to manually set the level and then it probes that.
The only thing holding me back is customer service. An important part of our purchase is being able to address issues, self inflicted or not. Rumor has it, customer service is absent with Creality.
A difficult decision for certain.
what about the shaking on the plate that been causing funny prints
DO NOT TRUST THIS VIDEO! Go read some actual reviews on this printer and Creality. If anything goes wrong you'll barely hear from their customer service and if you'll try to return the printer they'll either refuse no matter the law in your area or delay the refund indefinitely. Do your own digging and first of all take into account that this printer is not supported by any other slicer but their own!!!!!!