What is the bar numbers for the first movement? More specifically, the Exposition,Development and Recap? Does anyone know where I can find it please? thank you.
That slow intro was a record setter up to that time, lasting a cool 2:36. And it has a remarkable resemblance in rhythmic pattern, and chromatic scale pattern, to the much later Symphony #7 of Beethoven! Of course the corresponding Allegros of the two symphonies are quite different: the Beethoven is joyous and heroic in quality, whereas this symphony is suave and smoothly classical.
After 44 years of listening assiduously to Mozart's last six symphonies, I believe this one is my favorite, even though it is the only one without a nickname. Hoomeyow!!
I have to say, even though I would've preferred there were no ads, their thoughted out placement did not go unnoticed and for that I have to thank you.
Tfrne it's lovely, from start to finish! This symphony doesn't have the fame of Mozart's last two, but it's more beautiful and in some ways more dramatic than the other two.
@@timothythorne9464 I know right? The difference between Mozart's 39th and 40th symphonies is like the difference between Beethoven's 3rd and 5th symphonies. Literally, if you look at the first movements of them all, you will find similarities between each of the pieces in the Mozart - Beethoven pairs and differences between the pairs. Mozart 39 - Beethoven 3 Both start with loud chords Rhythm in the first movements is very similar Both have C minor appearing in the first movement Dramatic minor key in the second movement in both symphonies, C minor being the key of Beethoven 3 second movement and F minor appearing out of the blue in the second movement of Mozart 39 and in such a dramatic way, not the deathly melancholy that I tend to feel when I am improvising in F minor Mozart 40 - Beethoven 5 Both have a motif that makes up all or almost all of the first movement. In Beethoven 5, this motif is a building block of the other 3 movements as well. In Mozart 40, it just seems to disappear after the first movement is over. Both have the first 3 movements in a minor key followed by a major key and then minor again. Relative major in Mozart and Submediant major in Beethoven. Mannheim Rocket figure appears in both symphonies, but in different ways(loud and dramatic vs quiet and mysterious) and in different movements(Finale vs Scherzo) Each of these Mozart - Beethoven pairs has so many similarities, especially between their first movements for me to say that it is likely that Mozart influenced Beethoven when he was writing both his third "Eroica" symphony and his fifth symphony, sometimes called the "Fate" Symphony because of the motif or the "Victory" Symphony because of it's use by the Allies in WWII.
1. Simfonija Nr. 39 Es dur: 1. daļa, galvenā partija. 2:36 2. Simfonija Nr. 39 Es dur: 2. daļa, galvenā partija. 11:14 3. Simfonija Nr. 39 Es dur: 3. daļa, pamattēma. 20:00 4. Simfonija Nr. 39 Es dur: 4. daļa, pamattēma. 24:05
This is how you perform Mozart. Elegant but with verve and drive. Amazing woodwind section, too bad the LP stifled the basses a bit, but what a superlative Mozart rendition. Schmidt-Isserstedt knew something about Mozart few knew/know.
This was originally, I think, the Mercury recording of c.1958, absolutely outstanding technically (the glassy string sound was noted at the time), with the London Symphony Orchestra on top form. With this, Schmidt-Isserstedt. not highly regarded by pundits, came out of the professional shadows. For me, balm for the wounds of anguished adolescence. Yes, elegance, drive, phrase, style, the performance has it all.
At the end of the exposition, at about the 5 minute mark, it sounds like the volume is being turned down. I don't hear that at the end the second time through, at about 7:30.
I reckon I could have composed the first three or four bars of this symphony myself. After that, it goes a fair bit beyond my pay grade. Mozart was certainly very good at his job.
What is the bar numbers for the first movement? More specifically, the Exposition,Development and Recap? Does anyone know where I can find it please? thank you.
@@mach1chap Technically, it was probably the way round that they said; the actual chronology is irrelevant - it was what the piece reminded them of, to them, personally. I assume they'd heard the Schubert first, despite the Schubert coming second.
What is it about this recording where every instrument. Sounds so vivid? Is it engineering ? Sterio? Any audio philes out there to explain. It sounds like you are right THERE it's so electric!!! Makes other recordings sound dull
Thank you so much for putting this online! I humble opinion, i'm not too impressed with this performance. Strings are often out of tune -in development section of 1st mvt, especially when dividing in octaves...Tempos just so sluggish and rhythms weak. Shows how much Mozart performance and orchestral technique has come since then.
Probably one rehearsal, maybe one take. Can't compare to our digital recordings. But then again, you missed the superior sound of the wind section and the fact it is a LP recording. Seen in this light it is a great achievement.
@@bartjebartmans Yes, very poor logic. This is what happens when a gentleman watches music videos without the sound. I was thinking of 40 for some reason, but the comment applies to much of Mozart's work.
First of all they are excellent renditions and second of all they have NO copyright issues. One wrong upload and it will get blocked world wide. So what is the reason you ask? Not good enough for you?
Not. Very precise and clear performance with beautiful woodwinds. Especially clarinets. You know you are listening to a LP do you? Bass is not enough but is not the fault of the orchestra nor conductor. It is the recording.
@@bartjebartmans This performance is allright. It is difficult to appreciate due to the 1950ies sound quality. Everything had to be compressed, extremes in pitch and dynamics were filtered out so you hear not an orchestra but a bunch of violins and here and there some flutes in the distance. But this is what was available then.
Partes de la Obra:
00:00 I Mov. Adagio - Allegro
11:16 II Mov. Andante
20:00 III Mov. Menuetto
24:05 IV Mov. Allegro
What is the bar numbers for the first movement? More specifically, the Exposition,Development and Recap? Does anyone know where I can find it please? thank you.
That slow intro was a record setter up to that time, lasting a cool 2:36. And it has a remarkable resemblance in rhythmic pattern, and chromatic scale pattern, to the much later Symphony #7 of Beethoven!
Of course the corresponding Allegros of the two symphonies are quite different: the Beethoven is joyous and heroic in quality, whereas this symphony is suave and smoothly classical.
16:30
24:53
24:54
This is one of his truly greatest symphonies!
Absolutely agree
After 44 years of listening assiduously to Mozart's last six symphonies, I believe this one is my favorite, even though it is the only one without a nickname. Hoomeyow!!
Listening to this symphony is like having a mystical experience, I cannot believe how perfect the last movement is.
When I hear the 4th movement, I can picture Brett moving frantically.
I believe it was Eddy who danced
Confirmed! It was *Brett*
*ruclips.net/video/QkklAQLhnQY/видео.html*
You listen to a Mozart masterpiece and you think of youtubers watched by children?
@villain7140 You listen to a Mozart masterpiece and have to unnecessarily comment on other’s thoughts?
@@maddy5640 No, when I listen to Mozart I think of Mozart. Anything else wouldn’t have to do with Mozart.
Wunderschön, zauberhaft ,stärkend,
Thank you for giving me a chance to play viola with orchestra (by watching this new uploaded mozart score)) !!
2:10: ladies and gentlemen, this was actually composed in 1788.
I prefer the measures just before with their fantastic minor seconds.....
I used this to practice my audition music. Thank you. 🙏
Same
I have to say, even though I would've preferred there were no ads, their thoughted out placement did not go unnoticed and for that I have to thank you.
RUclips places the ads. I have not figured out so far how to do that myself.
@@bartjebartmans Well, then I guess either someone else is to be thanked for or maybe the program responsible enjoys Mozart
This is the best performance of ANY work by Mozart I have EVER heard. God, I wish we had high fidelity recordings of all the early master conductors!
Tfrne it's lovely, from start to finish! This symphony doesn't have the fame of Mozart's last two, but it's more beautiful and in some ways more dramatic than the other two.
@@timothythorne9464 I know right? The difference between Mozart's 39th and 40th symphonies is like the difference between Beethoven's 3rd and 5th symphonies. Literally, if you look at the first movements of them all, you will find similarities between each of the pieces in the Mozart - Beethoven pairs and differences between the pairs.
Mozart 39 - Beethoven 3
Both start with loud chords
Rhythm in the first movements is very similar
Both have C minor appearing in the first movement
Dramatic minor key in the second movement in both symphonies, C minor being the key of Beethoven 3 second movement and F minor appearing out of the blue in the second movement of Mozart 39 and in such a dramatic way, not the deathly melancholy that I tend to feel when I am improvising in F minor
Mozart 40 - Beethoven 5
Both have a motif that makes up all or almost all of the first movement. In Beethoven 5, this motif is a building block of the other 3 movements as well. In Mozart 40, it just seems to disappear after the first movement is over.
Both have the first 3 movements in a minor key followed by a major key and then minor again. Relative major in Mozart and Submediant major in Beethoven.
Mannheim Rocket figure appears in both symphonies, but in different ways(loud and dramatic vs quiet and mysterious) and in different movements(Finale vs Scherzo)
Each of these Mozart - Beethoven pairs has so many similarities, especially between their first movements for me to say that it is likely that Mozart influenced Beethoven when he was writing both his third "Eroica" symphony and his fifth symphony, sometimes called the "Fate" Symphony because of the motif or the "Victory" Symphony because of it's use by the Allies in WWII.
It`s nowhere near the best. very old and stylistically suspect, played as it was Brahms. .
I: Adagio 0:00
II: Andante Con Moto 11:14
III: Menuetto Allegro 20:00
Trio 21:56
IV: Allegro 24:05
Love the accompanying score, thank you!
1. Simfonija Nr. 39 Es dur: 1. daļa, galvenā partija. 2:36
2. Simfonija Nr. 39 Es dur: 2. daļa, galvenā partija. 11:14
3. Simfonija Nr. 39 Es dur: 3. daļa, pamattēma. 20:00
4. Simfonija Nr. 39 Es dur: 4. daļa, pamattēma. 24:05
11:16 Andante
20:00 Menuetto
24:05 Allegro
Daumantas Kojelis THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I NEED THAT ALLEGRO!! IT GIVES ME LIFE!!!
Спасибо огромное за партитуру!
Astonishing, miraculous.
This recording, especially in the high strings, seems shrill. I liked that.
last movement is incredible
16:27 breathtaking episode
Excellent job! Wishing you make his 40th symphony!
+Ivan Leong On the other side of the LP is his 41st.
@@bartjebartmans So it was an old vinyl record: could hear all the cracking, alas!
Reminds me so much of Beethoven’s Eroica Symphony, especially the first movement.
NYO2 violin excerpt 2024 program: 2:36 to 4:05
19:20 is so unbelievable beautiful
Magia sonora, acordes, escalas ascendentes e descendentes..., suave melodia contrastastando. O todo alcança a máxima beleza clássica!
First time I've heard it, beautiful symphony.
This is how you perform Mozart. Elegant but with verve and drive. Amazing woodwind section, too bad the LP stifled the basses a bit, but what a superlative Mozart rendition. Schmidt-Isserstedt knew something about Mozart few knew/know.
i totally agree!
Rockingbart Bringing out the winds! Esp the second clarinet in the minuetto, 3rd mvt.
@@mckavitt13 Yes! That second clarinet part is the celestial heart of this incredible work of art.
@@lymanmj My ears & heart agree w you.
This was originally, I think, the Mercury recording of c.1958, absolutely outstanding technically (the glassy string sound was noted at the time), with the London Symphony Orchestra on top form. With this, Schmidt-Isserstedt. not highly regarded by pundits, came out of the professional shadows. For me, balm for the wounds of anguished adolescence. Yes, elegance, drive, phrase, style, the performance has it all.
1.daļa
ievads 00:06
g.p. 02:36
g.p. variācija 03:12
bl.p. 04:05
At the end of the exposition, at about the 5 minute mark, it sounds like the volume is being turned down. I don't hear that at the end the second time through, at about 7:30.
Exactly, I guess that’s a glitch
My guess is that Schmidt-Isserstedt did not repeat the exposition but Bartje fixed it with some creative sound editing.
Amazing intro.
im an aquarius too!
Colorado All State Violin Excerpt: 11:17
Excellent thank you very much
This is love))wow.
the beautiful minuet and trio.
Divine
Play it on the Kick-Ass awesome system and you will be blown away. 🗿🗝️❄️🤫
What's that???
Me he enamorado de su musica
Primera vez que la escucho, bella sinfonía.
10:06
07:44
14:19
18:50
21:55
25:16
29:11
27:45
I reckon I could have composed the first three or four bars of this symphony myself.
After that, it goes a fair bit beyond my pay grade.
Mozart was certainly very good at his job.
Year of recording 1958. I’m only writing this because it helps me remember.
What is the bar numbers for the first movement? More specifically, the Exposition,Development and Recap? Does anyone know where I can find it please? thank you.
16:30 - my bookmark
The opening reminds me of Schuberts Symphony 2
It will be the other way round.
@@mach1chap that's for sure. Schubert was very inspired by Mozart.
@@mach1chap Technically, it was probably the way round that they said; the actual chronology is irrelevant - it was what the piece reminded them of, to them, personally. I assume they'd heard the Schubert first, despite the Schubert coming second.
3:44 - sounds like some violins are playing single 16ths on those runs. Maybe divided inside/outside. Or maybe it's just in my head :)
16:14 violin excerpt 96-125
11:16 13:07
14:20 amé ✨
Those typical Mozartean passages.....
16:44 measure 30
10:03 Beautiful Variation
Love the passage at 10:14 and following bars
What is it about this recording where every instrument. Sounds so vivid? Is it engineering ? Sterio? Any audio philes out there to explain. It sounds like you are right THERE it's so electric!!! Makes other recordings sound dull
Can you score Christ on The mount of olives op 85 by Beethoven?
24:19 - 24:32 24:37 twoset violin.
21:56
20:00
24:00
Colorado Continental league/ all state page 3 at 11:44
Does anyone know why I know a faster version of this movement? Does anyone know if there's a faster version, and whose version is it?
why not have chosen a disk in 78 laps the sound would have been fantastic !
El genio que creó esta maravilla musical les habría dado una clase magistral a los mediocres que ya con interpretar una melodía creen que son músicos.
2:37 violin excerpt
allegro 2:35
2:33 excerpt lol 🎻
24:05
16:29 - 17:06
wtf happens at the first repetition? is it artificially re-played?
2:32
thanks! I..
Is there any connection to Schuberts symphony no. 2
Herr von Unknown Gut only superficially. This symphony is immensely grander and more pleasing in every way than Schubert's juvenile 2nd symphony.
Schubert might’ve been inspired by Mozart. I actually personally like schuberts no.2 better.
Are the strings doing single strokes for the descending runs in the 1st mvt???
Personal Marking for myself 16:30
11:14 I didn't know Mozart wrote pieces in A-flat Major
Yep. It's uncommon, but in Mozart's era, you do see 4 sharp and 4 flat key signatures. They don't become commonplace until Beethoven starts composing.
Second movement of K. 457 has A-flat Major section
@@FrostDirt Ah yes, that part that foreshadows the opening theme of the second movement of the Pathetique Sonata.
Ab sounds warm I love it
@@FrostDirt only that? 😂
16:30
13:08 for my violin excerpt 💀💀
25:53 RIP violins
Mihawk Drakule I'm a violinist and it isn't as hard as it looks
32 years old
Thank you so much for putting this online!
I humble opinion, i'm not too impressed with this performance. Strings are often out of tune -in development section of 1st mvt, especially when dividing in octaves...Tempos just so sluggish and rhythms weak. Shows how much Mozart performance and orchestral technique has come since then.
Probably one rehearsal, maybe one take. Can't compare to our digital recordings. But then again, you missed the superior sound of the wind section and the fact it is a LP recording. Seen in this light it is a great achievement.
Violin #1B 16:30
24:10
Welcome to hell, 1st violins. But still, excellent symphony
👋👍🙏
13:09 13:56 16:30 17:30
13:01
02:36
40th >>> 39th
#:40
Karl Bohm
Berliner Philharmoniker
Ok
3 20 22
The Mozart 40 should be soft and bouncy but with great energy. Osmo Vanska, say I, and Neville Marriner, I suppose.
Why mention 40 when watching 39? Any logic here?
@@bartjebartmans Yes, very poor logic. This is what happens when a gentleman watches music videos without the sound. I was thinking of 40 for some reason, but the comment applies to much of Mozart's work.
11:16
I hear Joseph Haydn all over the first movement Lol. Great piece.
8:40
02:37 allegro
why do you often use really old recordings
First of all they are excellent renditions and second of all they have NO copyright issues. One wrong upload and it will get blocked world wide. So what is the reason you ask? Not good enough for you?
@@DanielFahimi Bernstein has copyright issues for sure as he is a popular conductor (and composer)
2.36
Swizzy stuff
Like))
0:072
Holy guacamole that's a weird Mozart portrait
Not as weird as your profile image.
Because its NOT Mozart
this performance is awful. The trumpet doesn't have enough energy. The orchestra isn't symmetrical.
Not. Very precise and clear performance with beautiful woodwinds. Especially clarinets. You know you are listening to a LP do you? Bass is not enough but is not the fault of the orchestra nor conductor. It is the recording.
thank you, although this recording is not perfect, I still like it.
@Bartje Bartmans wait what do you mean LP
@@bartjebartmans This performance is allright. It is difficult to appreciate due to the 1950ies sound quality. Everything had to be compressed, extremes in pitch and dynamics were filtered out so you hear not an orchestra but a bunch of violins and here and there some flutes in the distance. But this is what was available then.
@@christianwouters6764 The performance is excellent. Period. I hear more than a "bunch" of violins.
Non si sentono i timpani!!!!!
Il secondo tempo è troppo lento!
does anyone know where the primary theme of the exposition begins?