And it's nice to see. She was good, just not surrounded by good. I mean, she was appalled at the suggestion of sleeping with someone to get back at him. No wonder those girls couldn't hold down a guy.
@@ShiNijuuAKL Without him, she could not even save herself. Just imagine if they had broken up hard, even after that realization. Those "friends" would manipulate her anyway to return to their inner ring, demonizing him again. It's like a cult. She had a strong, lucid man to rely on whenever she needed, and that's no shame to admit that.
40 seconds in and I’m already shaking my head to OP decisions Just listened to the full thing. The girlfriend coming around with those flowers and chocolates felt like a surprise plot twist for me😂
I can't help but think that the boyfriend isn't aware of half of the shit his woman does. lol If a group of friends is so determined to split them up, it makes me wonder if his girlfriend was talking badly about him. She could also just be playing nice now because she realized she missed out on the planned trip and really wants to go still. Which he seemed to have rescheduled for them pretty quickly. I could be paranoid, though. lol Typically if there is red flags, which there was, then something was going on.
@@panspermiapancakes They weren't trying to break them up, just wanting the GF to be like them. Trash the guy, go out and ride another dick. Show him you don't need a man to be happy. It was made clear that they are superficial and can't keep a guy for more than a few months. While this post has little info, the GF seems to have always been more empathetic than the toxic waste she was with. Likely staying with them because they were popular and liked her. Spending two days alone torn up about the birthday mishap, with her "friends" not even checking on her, and the resulting attack after getting back together with her boyfriend has clearly given her a reality check. Some people are just in bad situations and they don't realize it. I can't say if the GF is a bitch or what her plan is. I can say it looks like she realized how shit her friends were. Only time will tell what happens, but I hope it's a happy ending.
@@panspermiapancakes I don't think she was talking badly about him. I think the friend-group was threatened by how good he was for her. He was a challenge to the power they had over her, which made him their enemy. Yes, he's a bit weak (or possibly meek), which is why the friend-group probably 'approved' of him at the start. They thought he was someone easily manipulated like all the other guys they gravitate to. But when he showed some spine, stuck to his guns and made his gf face actual consequences for her behavior, that put him in the enemy camp. A guy that isn't so easily manipulated is a direct threat to their own ability to control their world--and the GF who was up to that point submissive to their group. It gave the GF a point of reference to compare the behaviors, and exposed their toxicity to her. And gave her the option to walk away from that toxicity.
@@JB-bb4sugirls don't talk bad about a chicks BF unless they've got the go ahead from her. More than likely they're echoing what she already said before. And going out every weekend? Yikes probably been doing dirt
Rare to see one of these where the girlfriend not only realizes she was in the wrong and sincerely apologized, realized exactly why she was in the wrong, and dumped her toxic friends to make her relationship with her bf work, but also apologized to him with flowers and a box of chocolates. Man, despite the initial red flags, I think you found a keeper.
It's refreshing to read a story where the person who's in the wrong is mature and brave enough to do the right thing before it's too late. It must've taken a lot of courage from the girlfriend to end her friendship with those toxic bullies, and I respect that a lot.
Dude, your girlfriend has a group of girl friends and never does anything without consulting them?? Congrats, you opened this subject with a massive red flag already
Yeah that was a HUGE red flag that he completely ignored. Sure, in the end it seems like she cut them out of her life, but I would be very wary about that because chances are she will reach out to them in the future when OP and her hit a rough patch, and they will again poison her mind. Of course there's at least a chance that she won't ever go back to her former friend group, crazier things have happened, but I would be very wary if I were OP.
@@mannydcbianco nah! wolfpack mentality works that they will be also trying to ruin her if she came back. Trust me, this type of women still vindictive. In all fanus, OP should had a deep talk with her about this type of people.
@@Zerif69 and if she's being easily manipulated like that, who would guarantee if she won't be manipulated again 🤔🤔? Everyone knows that single females in group is similar to an encounter with a pack of hungry wolves or hyenas, which fits perfectly well their description and the dude in question was too Simp to realise with what type of crazies he was dealing with.
Wow. I went from "dump her" to "wow. She realized her mistake, apologized for her actions and even brought him apology gifts, cut out her friend group that she's been a part of for a long time, and is sticking to her guns and man" that's maturity in a person, realizing they are wrong, apologizing for it and fixing the issue. Despite what she did in the beginning what she did after is what a true mature adult woman would do. Keep her, you'll probably never find a woman who would do something like that these days.
Had a long relationship that lasted for almost 8 years. The woman I was with chose to hang out with her friends instead of me more often. I saw her no more than 2 days tops each week. This lasted for 3 months before it all came crashing down. They manipulated her into cheating on me and after I had left our apartment and moved back to my old hometown she begged for my return. She really screwed herself. The only reason she came knocking desperately was simply because she had believed that her so-called friends had used her for their own entertainment. I had warned her of their blatant attempts, but she of course didn't believe me. It's her own fault and she has to live with her enormous mistake for the rest of her life.
I have a saying "a woman is a wolf to another woman" just because of shit like this. Women rarely have good true friends, but manipulative and jealous toxic people, who rather ruin the other ones chances for anything good because they can't have "competition", just because they are incapable of having anything good for themselves.
Sheesh. It’s a huge red flag when the single friends want her to hang out with them more knowing that they don’t have responsibilities and doing shady shit. Then pumping bullshit in their heads and believing it.
Finally, a story in this channel that isn't all about cheating. Please can we get more of these. Also, I love how those girls were trying their high-school level drama, and OP told them they are adults and will deal with adult consequences if they did anything in retaliation
Honestly cheating stories are vanilla compared to how some of these people get screwed by family. One guys step dad sabotaged his relationship because he thought his stepson didn't deserve the girl.
@flexjohnson18 I know. The none cheating stories thend to be more "juicy" and I like that. I really hate these actually happen to people, but through an AI voice on the internet, I can just pretend I'm listening to a novel
We really need to normalize that abusive relationships can be in friendships too. The gf was in an abusive friendship and now her abusers are going off the deep end because they don't have their victim anymore.
being close with her friends isn't a bad thing in itself. It's actually a green flag, since it means she can form long lasting relationships. However being so close that she looses her own independence is a big no. I'm glad they managed to fix things tho
I see it as a sign she tends towards a submissive, conflict-averse personality. The BF also demonstrates similar characteristics. That's not necessarily a bad thing, if it's not abused. Submissive-type friends can be a calming and peacekeeping influence in a group, because they're generally not adding to drama. But submissive doesn't mean "weak". If pushed, they are capable and willing to stand up for themselves. However, I do have some concerns for this couple moving forward. If they both tend towards submission, neither one is going to be comfortable being the "leader" in the relationship. They've already demonstrated communication problems due to this. And communication problems can be fatal to relationship health.
It's nice to find one of these stories where the girl/boyfriend realizes their friend group is just toxic waste. "You'd be weak going back to him" after she gets upset over a surprise that was canceled because spending time with toxic waste like usual was more important. She realized she was wrong to get upset over something she technically said no to. I say technically because she had no idea what was going on. Plus the dawning of the "Why am I taking relationship advance from a group that go through boyfriends like they are cookies?" They can't keep a guy for more than a few months, and are acting like they know how to keep a man. They're going to be walking around with a purse full of STD meds eventually.
My first girlfriend talked shit about about her friends for disproving of me even after we broke up because we were on good terms and we still are and she considers me a closer friend than them. Don’t date a pawn who needs her friend group to puppeteer her around and tell her what she’s gonna do next. You ain’t dating her. You’re dating her friends at that point.
"Single women keep women single" I think is the best quote to describe this story. Also, if they "approve" each other's partners and they never last, that's very telling.
If you asked her to marry you would she need to consult with her friends before giving you an answer? Is she not a grown woman who can make her own decisions about her life, without consulting a committee? This kind of behavior would be a red flag for me, if she’s not willing to act like an adult and be responsible for her own decisions, then she clearly has a lot of growing up to do.
"She needed their ok first" -> their opinions are more important to her than her interest in you. Red flag. I would have expected her to choose their approval over her supposed feelings for OP and OP's feelings consistently. Respect to her for making a difficult but good decision. He would've dodged the bullet otherwise, but this way, she dodged several.
She had a group of toxic friends in her ear and self reglected after she knew she messed up and chose to do what she thought was right after her friends told her otherwise. And for the guy he did what men are supposed to do by not apologizing for something he knows he didn't do wrong and forgave her when she knew it since it wasn't something unforgivable.
First time I've ever heard of a woman not taking the obviously horrible dating advice of her female friend group and seeing that she was wrong before doing something worse.
This was frustrating to listen to these "friends" are going to be alone and I'm happy that OP reconcile with his girlfriend its not weak to say sorry I think it shows strength to admit you were wrong
--- She didn't want to spend her birthday until she found out you canceled a day trip you had planned. NTA, don't apologized. These women are acting like they are in middle school. Glad OP ditched her girlfriends (turned out to be vicious witches) and apologized to him.
Here's the thing: gender-swap the friends, cause your heart did. In other words, consider the situation as if she went out to get wasted around male friends without you. Or she might consider how she'd feel if you were hanging around girls other than her for your bday with the only comsolation being "we have been friends since forever." Now that decision cost her a romantic getaway she couldn't have gone on anyways, and it is up to her to stand by her choice and not blame you.
Okay but like, hanging out with a bunch of males as a female is very different then hanging out with a bucnh of females as a female. It shouldn't be like that, but it is.
@@AriaRosetti it is, and that's why this works. If gender is your only argument why something is OK, then gender swapping is a good way to test your perception. Here's another more obvious example: say she came back and said "they got me plastered and we fooled around a bit, but it's not cheating cause they are my girl friends." Would it be cheating? Would saying no not be disrespecting the mongomy of bisexuals? Or would it be understandable if the boyfriend was upset then? In this case, they weren't fooling around, but she did reject her boyfriend from spending such a special day with her simply relying on gender as a free hall pass. In turn, those same friends were using gender to excuse being vile people.
@@ManinawigThat's an assumption not an example, it has nothing to do with the story presented. Also, gender swapping the friends and not the girlfriend's makes no sense because it's just natural for a girl to have girl friends. Spending time with girls is never the same as spending time with boys, no matter who you are, and if you think they're the same thing you're just stupid
@@Karenwiththeissues allow me to clarify: if one wants to try and see things from another person's point of view, they might be blocked by their own biases. I have always found that a good way to override such biases is to flip the script and see if the sentiment holds true. This especially works with emotional responses, such as figuring out why someone might be upset at you. If the girlfriend cannot see the problem with saying "I would rather spend my birthday with my friends than with my boyfriend" because "they are all girls," then it is worth considering if the statement holds true by swapping the genders of the subject (such as if her bf said that, or if the friends were all male). It would sound wrong if a guy wanted to spend time drinking with a bunch of girls away from the girlfriend.... So that realization might bring about some self-reflection and discover that the issue is with the word "rather," and opt to change that to "I wanna spend my b-day with _both_ my boyfriend and my friends." Or, "I wanna hang out with my friends for my birthday, then have a more romantic celebration with my boyfriend." In sort (cause sometimes my clarifications aren't clear), the issue isn't that girls shouldn't have girls nights or guys shouldn't have guys nights. Rather that flipping the script can help us uncover a bias we might be blind to.
She doesn't do anything without consulting her friends first. None of them have long term relationships and they're mostly single. The first thing she does when they get in a fight is go to her friends and tell them about it. You have to know they are all trashing you. As much as she wants to say she doesn't partake in that, you know she is. The social pressure is strong. This story ended up okay because she let them go and grew past them, but that was straight up luck man. Fellas, if you meet a chick like this, it isn't worth the trouble. That group of women will be keeping each other single for as long as they are friends because it's a feedback loop. The single ones have to trash relationships to justify to themselves why they're single. Anybody else in the circle that gets in a relationship will constantly be berated the more serious it becomes until they give in to the social pressure and break up and are single along with the rest of the crew again. Having friends that are single is not a bad thing on its own, but if she doesn't have a balance of friends in committed relationships as well, then it's only a matter of time before her friends start causing problems for your relationship because she wont have the committed relationship friends to fall back on for help with the issues in her relationship. The only advice she'll be getting is from the single friends which will all say to break up.
I’m glad the girlfriend realised her mistake and didn’t listen to her friends. They clearly don’t have her best interest at heart and are very toxic people. Definitely dumb those friends and make new ones.
She definitely is a special kind of dunce.... As soon as he wasn't in the room she was checking his phone, She got upset because he complied with her wishes, and she cant think for herself.....yeah she shouldn't be in a relationship till she grows up
I honestly thought she was going to cheat on him and we'd be in for a while cliche story but this one ended better than I expected and is now one of my favorites!
I could never ask someone out multiple times and have them then finally say yes.. if I ask you once or perhaps twice and you say no both times then I’m not gonna force you or annoy you etc.. if only he had given up after asking her once 😂
He obviously knows how to pick them. How unlikely is it for someone to be able to realize themselves they are wrong despite all their friends trying to enable them? He was simply a good person who stuck to his guns and he was rewarded because his GF showed herself to have true character.
Woman keep themselves single with their choices to be manipulated so easily remember in the end it’s there choice to agree with there friends or disagree with them and cut them out when there way out of line these women choose to be single then so be it
This type of mean girl is the reason why I stuck to the nerd guys back in my student years. I'd rather be called a "pick me" and talk about Lord of the Rings than listening to this bullshit all day. They bring shame to women!
I don’t buy her not knowing how toxic they were if they were the mean girls. Also those messages making fun of people. Also those guys who got back with those harpies after going out with other guys are doormats.
My question is why was the GF going through the OP phone? And OP should have communicated to her what he had planned. And she listens to her friend too much.
"She would rather spend time with her friends over me" is just code for she's cheating every chance she gets. "She's just a really loyal person" is outright a lie.
S 1- op. STOP BEING A SIMP. She is out of line. You do not owe her an apology. Grow a spine and be a man and keep your boundaries. Let her go running to her friends. She sounds ridiculous. Is this how you want your life to go? She will not change. Ef her and her friends acting like children. Shes probably lying to her friends and remember, single woman keep woman single. They are jealous and can’t stand her being happy. Find an adult to spend your time with. She called you a jerk and cried, that’s a tempter tantrum and name calling only proves she’s wrong. You deserve better with an adult, not this garbage. Do NOT take her back. This will happen again and a gain. She has shown you who she is, please pay attention and believe her.
Big ups to the OP, it would have been perfectly reasonable and justifiable to just say, "look you're a great person but I just can't handle the toxicity with your friends, we're done." But he didn't and stayed with her which is just really cool.
"Doing something so extreme (as to involve a lawyer) makes it worse" - no, the reason why people are becoming more and more comfortable with this toxic and downright harassment online is because they don't get backlash. Ignoring those people only makes it worse.
The best thing about the mean girl clique in highschool is that they've all peaked. At least this girl (through pure luck, it seems) managed to save herself.
Why are the OPs Always such simps 😂 ? She needed 3 days to think If she Takes you or the group of Girlfriends? And you still took her Back ? Like wtf 😅 its Not even your Girlfriend
Op 1 naive. His GF knew they were mean girls, knew they talked crap about everyone and stood by, if not participated on the sly. She only selfishly woke up when they turned their daggers on Her. She didn't care when it was other people.
Remember fellas! She could be loyal to her friends and her friends only. Don't take her loyalty to her friends as she's going to be loyal with you. That just means her friends could get her to cheat on you...And major kudos to the girlfriend, she didn't fall into temptations. I approve her as one of the few wifey material left in this whole world.
It could be worse. I knew of someone who cashed his IRA to fly his [now ex] girlfriend to an exotic island getaway for a romantic tryst, only for the relationship to be over in technically fifteen minutes into the trip. But OP better not apologize. That girlfriend and her friends are horrible.
Very rare the gf who almost became a ex actually sided with op. She must really have feelings for him and him for her. He defended her honor and she defended his and showed their past classmates what her ex friends were really saying behind closed doors. How to move forward, definitely block them and find new friends for her.
Several red flags from her. She made it clear that he needs to suck it up and deal with it. And she claimed to have fun, but then gaslighting him saying he "ruined her special day"
She was acting like a 8 year old. She needs to grow up and make decisions for herself. Dude is not the jerk, he should have broken up and moved on when she said no she wants to be with her friends. Aint worth your time my dudes.
Nah she ruined her own bday by choosing her friends over her man. Chances are this is why none of her relationships last, her friends are by themselves so they want her to be. Making your friends a priority over your mate will do that. Let her go, she sux, find someone youll matter too.
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Damn he actually saved her from those toxic so called friends. Thats rare.
And it's nice to see. She was good, just not surrounded by good. I mean, she was appalled at the suggestion of sleeping with someone to get back at him. No wonder those girls couldn't hold down a guy.
nah, she saved herself. OP was just the reality check she needed
Only time will tell. I wouldn't trust her yet.
@@ShiNijuuAKLalways giving woman credit is gross
@@ShiNijuuAKL Without him, she could not even save herself. Just imagine if they had broken up hard, even after that realization. Those "friends" would manipulate her anyway to return to their inner ring, demonizing him again. It's like a cult. She had a strong, lucid man to rely on whenever she needed, and that's no shame to admit that.
You know, it's refreshing to see one of these "GF hangs out with toxic friends" stories end with the girlfriend choosing her man over the "friends."
agreed
It’s good to see character development
she prob. went out with the guy they suggested and he pumped and dumped her
Fugazzi
these types of women are updateable no matter how much they blame others
40 seconds in and I’m already shaking my head to OP decisions
Just listened to the full thing. The girlfriend coming around with those flowers and chocolates felt like a surprise plot twist for me😂
I can't help but think that the boyfriend isn't aware of half of the shit his woman does. lol If a group of friends is so determined to split them up, it makes me wonder if his girlfriend was talking badly about him.
She could also just be playing nice now because she realized she missed out on the planned trip and really wants to go still. Which he seemed to have rescheduled for them pretty quickly. I could be paranoid, though. lol Typically if there is red flags, which there was, then something was going on.
@@panspermiapancakes They weren't trying to break them up, just wanting the GF to be like them. Trash the guy, go out and ride another dick. Show him you don't need a man to be happy. It was made clear that they are superficial and can't keep a guy for more than a few months.
While this post has little info, the GF seems to have always been more empathetic than the toxic waste she was with. Likely staying with them because they were popular and liked her. Spending two days alone torn up about the birthday mishap, with her "friends" not even checking on her, and the resulting attack after getting back together with her boyfriend has clearly given her a reality check.
Some people are just in bad situations and they don't realize it. I can't say if the GF is a bitch or what her plan is. I can say it looks like she realized how shit her friends were. Only time will tell what happens, but I hope it's a happy ending.
@@panspermiapancakes I don't think she was talking badly about him.
I think the friend-group was threatened by how good he was for her.
He was a challenge to the power they had over her, which made him their enemy.
Yes, he's a bit weak (or possibly meek), which is why the friend-group probably 'approved' of him at the start. They thought he was someone easily manipulated like all the other guys they gravitate to.
But when he showed some spine, stuck to his guns and made his gf face actual consequences for her behavior, that put him in the enemy camp.
A guy that isn't so easily manipulated is a direct threat to their own ability to control their world--and the GF who was up to that point submissive to their group. It gave the GF a point of reference to compare the behaviors, and exposed their toxicity to her. And gave her the option to walk away from that toxicity.
@@panspermiapancakes so you think she ditched her whole friend group for a beach trip. yes, u are paranoid lol
@@JB-bb4sugirls don't talk bad about a chicks BF unless they've got the go ahead from her. More than likely they're echoing what she already said before. And going out every weekend? Yikes probably been doing dirt
Rare to see one of these where the girlfriend not only realizes she was in the wrong and sincerely apologized, realized exactly why she was in the wrong, and dumped her toxic friends to make her relationship with her bf work, but also apologized to him with flowers and a box of chocolates. Man, despite the initial red flags, I think you found a keeper.
That's not a girlfriend. That's a Wife with a capital W.
indeed.
The first flag was she wouldn't say yes until her friends gave him the "ok". He should have just walked away.
At the end she did realize her mistake. Not everybody is emotionally mature right from the start. It needs growth
@@thelightedghostsince when females were mature?? Even at 40, they don't even know what they want
@@thelightedghostIf you aren't emotionally mature on your 25th, you have really big issues I am afraid
@@houseplant1016 there are some people who are like that.
@@houseplant1016must be tiring being so vengeful and unforgiving
It's refreshing to read a story where the person who's in the wrong is mature and brave enough to do the right thing before it's too late.
It must've taken a lot of courage from the girlfriend to end her friendship with those toxic bullies, and I respect that a lot.
Yeah and not just end a friendship with one friend but an entire friend group, like damn that's some serious love she has for her boyfriend.
Dude, your girlfriend has a group of girl friends and never does anything without consulting them?? Congrats, you opened this subject with a massive red flag already
Guy was being a doormat
You just dont stick to this "groupie" girl that prefer her friends than the person she says "i love u" and than ditch later
Yeah that was a HUGE red flag that he completely ignored. Sure, in the end it seems like she cut them out of her life, but I would be very wary about that because chances are she will reach out to them in the future when OP and her hit a rough patch, and they will again poison her mind. Of course there's at least a chance that she won't ever go back to her former friend group, crazier things have happened, but I would be very wary if I were OP.
I was going to say the same thing. I would not want to date someone that can not make decisions on her own. I am looking to date not raise someone.
@@mannydcbianco nah! wolfpack mentality works that they will be also trying to ruin her if she came back. Trust me, this type of women still vindictive. In all fanus, OP should had a deep talk with her about this type of people.
@@Zerif69 and if she's being easily manipulated like that, who would guarantee if she won't be manipulated again 🤔🤔? Everyone knows that single females in group is similar to an encounter with a pack of hungry wolves or hyenas, which fits perfectly well their description and the dude in question was too Simp to realise with what type of crazies he was dealing with.
Wow. I went from "dump her" to "wow. She realized her mistake, apologized for her actions and even brought him apology gifts, cut out her friend group that she's been a part of for a long time, and is sticking to her guns and man" that's maturity in a person, realizing they are wrong, apologizing for it and fixing the issue. Despite what she did in the beginning what she did after is what a true mature adult woman would do. Keep her, you'll probably never find a woman who would do something like that these days.
Had a long relationship that lasted for almost 8 years. The woman I was with chose to hang out with her friends instead of me more often. I saw her no more than 2 days tops each week. This lasted for 3 months before it all came crashing down. They manipulated her into cheating on me and after I had left our apartment and moved back to my old hometown she begged for my return. She really screwed herself. The only reason she came knocking desperately was simply because she had believed that her so-called friends had used her for their own entertainment. I had warned her of their blatant attempts, but she of course didn't believe me. It's her own fault and she has to live with her enormous mistake for the rest of her life.
I have a saying "a woman is a wolf to another woman" just because of shit like this. Women rarely have good true friends, but manipulative and jealous toxic people, who rather ruin the other ones chances for anything good because they can't have "competition", just because they are incapable of having anything good for themselves.
Sheesh. It’s a huge red flag when the single friends want her to hang out with them more knowing that they don’t have responsibilities and doing shady shit.
Then pumping bullshit in their heads and believing it.
Finally, a story in this channel that isn't all about cheating. Please can we get more of these.
Also, I love how those girls were trying their high-school level drama, and OP told them they are adults and will deal with adult consequences if they did anything in retaliation
Honestly cheating stories are vanilla compared to how some of these people get screwed by family. One guys step dad sabotaged his relationship because he thought his stepson didn't deserve the girl.
@flexjohnson18 I know. The none cheating stories thend to be more "juicy" and I like that. I really hate these actually happen to people, but through an AI voice on the internet, I can just pretend I'm listening to a novel
there is no way op girlfriend is cheating
@@flexjohnson18 I remember that one...
That was actually quite nice, the GF being an actual adult really surprised me.
We really need to normalize that abusive relationships can be in friendships too.
The gf was in an abusive friendship and now her abusers are going off the deep end because they don't have their victim anymore.
being close with her friends isn't a bad thing in itself. It's actually a green flag, since it means she can form long lasting relationships. However being so close that she looses her own independence is a big no.
I'm glad they managed to fix things tho
I see it as a sign she tends towards a submissive, conflict-averse personality. The BF also demonstrates similar characteristics. That's not necessarily a bad thing, if it's not abused. Submissive-type friends can be a calming and peacekeeping influence in a group, because they're generally not adding to drama.
But submissive doesn't mean "weak". If pushed, they are capable and willing to stand up for themselves.
However, I do have some concerns for this couple moving forward. If they both tend towards submission, neither one is going to be comfortable being the "leader" in the relationship. They've already demonstrated communication problems due to this. And communication problems can be fatal to relationship health.
It's nice to find one of these stories where the girl/boyfriend realizes their friend group is just toxic waste. "You'd be weak going back to him" after she gets upset over a surprise that was canceled because spending time with toxic waste like usual was more important. She realized she was wrong to get upset over something she technically said no to. I say technically because she had no idea what was going on.
Plus the dawning of the "Why am I taking relationship advance from a group that go through boyfriends like they are cookies?" They can't keep a guy for more than a few months, and are acting like they know how to keep a man. They're going to be walking around with a purse full of STD meds eventually.
Breath of fresh air to see the person in the wrong realize their mistake before things are completely FUBAR
Seems like those girls peaked in high school and OP's gf sold herself short.
"I know this sounds selfish" not at all dude. Youre a real one
My first girlfriend talked shit about about her friends for disproving of me even after we broke up because we were on good terms and we still are and she considers me a closer friend than them.
Don’t date a pawn who needs her friend group to puppeteer her around and tell her what she’s gonna do next. You ain’t dating her. You’re dating her friends at that point.
"Single women keep women single" I think is the best quote to describe this story. Also, if they "approve" each other's partners and they never last, that's very telling.
This is why it’s extremely important to know what kind of friends your significant other and/or spouse has.
Damn, both of them turned savage at the end 😂💀 holy shit. Im wheezing that he said "loser alpha females" that got me 😂😂
HOW THE HELL DID I MISS THIS STORY?! 9 MONTHS AGO?! I NEVER MISS STORIES😭😭😭
Glad his girlfriend had the veil lifted on her friends, hope the Boyfriend takes good care of her, hope everything works out for them.
This is the first story I've seen where the woman chooses her man over her friends.
If you asked her to marry you would she need to consult with her friends before giving you an answer? Is she not a grown woman who can make her own decisions about her life, without consulting a committee? This kind of behavior would be a red flag for me, if she’s not willing to act like an adult and be responsible for her own decisions, then she clearly has a lot of growing up to do.
"She needed their ok first" -> their opinions are more important to her than her interest in you.
Red flag.
I would have expected her to choose their approval over her supposed feelings for OP and OP's feelings consistently.
Respect to her for making a difficult but good decision.
He would've dodged the bullet otherwise, but this way, she dodged several.
She had a group of toxic friends in her ear and self reglected after she knew she messed up and chose to do what she thought was right after her friends told her otherwise. And for the guy he did what men are supposed to do by not apologizing for something he knows he didn't do wrong and forgave her when she knew it since it wasn't something unforgivable.
First time I've ever heard of a woman not taking the obviously horrible dating advice of her female friend group and seeing that she was wrong before doing something worse.
This was frustrating to listen to these "friends" are going to be alone and I'm happy that OP reconcile with his girlfriend its not weak to say sorry I think it shows strength to admit you were wrong
Finally an audio story with a truly happy ending 😂
Wish GF had thought to videotape what those girls had said and then posted it on social media to embarrass them for their evil ways
--- She didn't want to spend her birthday until she found out you canceled a day trip you had planned. NTA, don't apologized. These women are acting like they are in middle school. Glad OP ditched her girlfriends (turned out to be vicious witches) and apologized to him.
Single women love keeping their friends single and miserable...
Red flags dump her buddy.....too bad she is so selfish
Here's the thing: gender-swap the friends, cause your heart did.
In other words, consider the situation as if she went out to get wasted around male friends without you. Or she might consider how she'd feel if you were hanging around girls other than her for your bday with the only comsolation being "we have been friends since forever."
Now that decision cost her a romantic getaway she couldn't have gone on anyways, and it is up to her to stand by her choice and not blame you.
Okay but like, hanging out with a bunch of males as a female is very different then hanging out with a bucnh of females as a female. It shouldn't be like that, but it is.
@@AriaRosetti it is, and that's why this works. If gender is your only argument why something is OK, then gender swapping is a good way to test your perception.
Here's another more obvious example: say she came back and said "they got me plastered and we fooled around a bit, but it's not cheating cause they are my girl friends." Would it be cheating? Would saying no not be disrespecting the mongomy of bisexuals? Or would it be understandable if the boyfriend was upset then?
In this case, they weren't fooling around, but she did reject her boyfriend from spending such a special day with her simply relying on gender as a free hall pass. In turn, those same friends were using gender to excuse being vile people.
@@ManinawigThat's an assumption not an example, it has nothing to do with the story presented. Also, gender swapping the friends and not the girlfriend's makes no sense because it's just natural for a girl to have girl friends. Spending time with girls is never the same as spending time with boys, no matter who you are, and if you think they're the same thing you're just stupid
I'm sorry, but how is this relevant? And how did he 'gender-swap her friends in his heart'?
@@Karenwiththeissues allow me to clarify: if one wants to try and see things from another person's point of view, they might be blocked by their own biases. I have always found that a good way to override such biases is to flip the script and see if the sentiment holds true. This especially works with emotional responses, such as figuring out why someone might be upset at you.
If the girlfriend cannot see the problem with saying "I would rather spend my birthday with my friends than with my boyfriend" because "they are all girls," then it is worth considering if the statement holds true by swapping the genders of the subject (such as if her bf said that, or if the friends were all male). It would sound wrong if a guy wanted to spend time drinking with a bunch of girls away from the girlfriend....
So that realization might bring about some self-reflection and discover that the issue is with the word "rather," and opt to change that to "I wanna spend my b-day with _both_ my boyfriend and my friends." Or, "I wanna hang out with my friends for my birthday, then have a more romantic celebration with my boyfriend."
In sort (cause sometimes my clarifications aren't clear), the issue isn't that girls shouldn't have girls nights or guys shouldn't have guys nights. Rather that flipping the script can help us uncover a bias we might be blind to.
She doesn't do anything without consulting her friends first. None of them have long term relationships and they're mostly single. The first thing she does when they get in a fight is go to her friends and tell them about it. You have to know they are all trashing you. As much as she wants to say she doesn't partake in that, you know she is. The social pressure is strong.
This story ended up okay because she let them go and grew past them, but that was straight up luck man. Fellas, if you meet a chick like this, it isn't worth the trouble. That group of women will be keeping each other single for as long as they are friends because it's a feedback loop. The single ones have to trash relationships to justify to themselves why they're single. Anybody else in the circle that gets in a relationship will constantly be berated the more serious it becomes until they give in to the social pressure and break up and are single along with the rest of the crew again.
Having friends that are single is not a bad thing on its own, but if she doesn't have a balance of friends in committed relationships as well, then it's only a matter of time before her friends start causing problems for your relationship because she wont have the committed relationship friends to fall back on for help with the issues in her relationship. The only advice she'll be getting is from the single friends which will all say to break up.
ayo nice work OP, congrats, and you should be proud of your GF.
Idk why with the first couple sentences it sounded like a cult
I’m glad the girlfriend realised her mistake and didn’t listen to her friends. They clearly don’t have her best interest at heart and are very toxic people. Definitely dumb those friends and make new ones.
She definitely is a special kind of dunce.... As soon as he wasn't in the room she was checking his phone, She got upset because he complied with her wishes, and she cant think for herself.....yeah she shouldn't be in a relationship till she grows up
That woman has my respect. There is hope still
Sounds like they both need to work on their communication in the relationship. Good on her for getting out of those toxic friendships
I honestly thought she was going to cheat on him and we'd be in for a while cliche story but this one ended better than I expected and is now one of my favorites!
While some parts of this seem a little implausible to me... I'm glad it ended happily and that a certain someone realized that they were wrong.
I could never ask someone out multiple times and have them then finally say yes.. if I ask you once or perhaps twice and you say no both times then I’m not gonna force you or annoy you etc.. if only he had given up after asking her once 😂
He obviously knows how to pick them. How unlikely is it for someone to be able to realize themselves they are wrong despite all their friends trying to enable them? He was simply a good person who stuck to his guns and he was rewarded because his GF showed herself to have true character.
NGL, he had me in the first half 🤣😂
No accountability. Dump her now. She doesn’t care about you. She only cares about what you can give her.
Somebody didn't watch the whole video
@@FaizatheTempest How the fuck would you know? FO.
Poor fool... She's only loyal to her friends. She wouldn't even date you if they hadn't said she can. You overestimate your place in her life 🤨
Single women hate seeing other women happy.
The fact she wants her friends to approve her choices AND her boyfriends is a red flag. CRIMSON red flag.
Im glad the guy was at least patient, instead of instantly calling “red flag” and walking away
She was indeed the victim of something terrible she was being held accountable which is a nightmare situation for any woman.
That's not a friend group, that's a bucket of crabs.
I get she's only 25, but if at 25 you still insist on going out partying every weekend, you really need to rethink your life.
That girlfriend is straight stuck in a circle of Yasslighting
Single women keep women single
Woman keep themselves single with their choices to be manipulated so easily remember in the end it’s there choice to agree with there friends or disagree with them and cut them out when there way out of line these women choose to be single then so be it
Dude is a tool. She’s using him for a vacation.
This type of mean girl is the reason why I stuck to the nerd guys back in my student years. I'd rather be called a "pick me" and talk about Lord of the Rings than listening to this bullshit all day. They bring shame to women!
I was not expecting the second half of her actually learning. But okay. I like everything that happened in the story.
I don’t buy her not knowing how toxic they were if they were the mean girls. Also those messages making fun of people. Also those guys who got back with those harpies after going out with other guys are doormats.
Going clubbing with her friends is a red flag. But I'm glad it worked out at the end, this woman proved she was a mature and loyal person.
those “friends” are the same people who would be on tiktok supporting “maneaters”
You can't lose what you never had. She prioritised the friends over you.
She goes out with her friends on the weekends? You better check her for cheating. And you're not the a-hole.
My question is why was the GF going through the OP phone? And OP should have communicated to her what he had planned. And she listens to her friend too much.
Story 1. Run....
He needs to repeat every time she is trying to argue about him cancelling this "you chose not to go"
"She would rather spend time with her friends over me" is just code for she's cheating every chance she gets. "She's just a really loyal person" is outright a lie.
I got one word for this guy "SIMP!!!!!"
S 1- op. STOP BEING A SIMP. She is out of line. You do not owe her an apology. Grow a spine and be a man and keep your boundaries. Let her go running to her friends. She sounds ridiculous. Is this how you want your life to go? She will not change. Ef her and her friends acting like children. Shes probably lying to her friends and remember, single woman keep woman single. They are jealous and can’t stand her being happy. Find an adult to spend your time with. She called you a jerk and cried, that’s a tempter tantrum and name calling only proves she’s wrong. You deserve better with an adult, not this garbage. Do NOT take her back. This will happen again and a gain. She has shown you who she is, please pay attention and believe her.
Big ups to the OP, it would have been perfectly reasonable and justifiable to just say, "look you're a great person but I just can't handle the toxicity with your friends, we're done." But he didn't and stayed with her which is just really cool.
"Doing something so extreme (as to involve a lawyer) makes it worse" - no, the reason why people are becoming more and more comfortable with this toxic and downright harassment online is because they don't get backlash. Ignoring those people only makes it worse.
Bro just walk away lol
When she said circle I heard cult
Woman logicc......... just the actual f
The best thing about the mean girl clique in highschool is that they've all peaked. At least this girl (through pure luck, it seems) managed to save herself.
The fact that OP took her back makes him the AH to himself and an absolute doormat
Why are the OPs Always such simps 😂 ? She needed 3 days to think If she Takes you or the group of Girlfriends? And you still took her Back ? Like wtf 😅 its Not even your Girlfriend
Op 1 naive. His GF knew they were mean girls, knew they talked crap about everyone and stood by, if not participated on the sly.
She only selfishly woke up when they turned their daggers on Her. She didn't care when it was other people.
Remember fellas! She could be loyal to her friends and her friends only. Don't take her loyalty to her friends as she's going to be loyal with you. That just means her friends could get her to cheat on you...And major kudos to the girlfriend, she didn't fall into temptations. I approve her as one of the few wifey material left in this whole world.
Bro unlocked the good ending
Bro im not crying you are, it s beautiful :'(
I want to know about how this relationship ends up, this girl displayed so many red flags and this guy is so manipulable there’s no way it ends well.
I don’t know why, but this feels like a creative writing project. Or something written by an AI Lol.
Why do I see u on every comment section screaming FAKE!
@@Sashin-d8t because I don’t trust, Reddit
@@Sashin-d8t because I don’t trust Reddit lol
@@Sashin-d8t cuz I don’t trust read it lol
You loose nothing by loosing her
You have to put yourself first, when she puts her friends before you!!!
Remember, kids: you are not entitled to a gift. It's a courtesy and a privilege. Do not take it, and your loved ones, for granted.
It could be worse. I knew of someone who cashed his IRA to fly his [now ex] girlfriend to an exotic island getaway for a romantic tryst, only for the relationship to be over in technically fifteen minutes into the trip. But OP better not apologize. That girlfriend and her friends are horrible.
props to gf for getting out of the mind control by herself
Ahhhh, good old Crab Bucket mentality.
Very rare the gf who almost became a ex actually sided with op. She must really have feelings for him and him for her. He defended her honor and she defended his and showed their past classmates what her ex friends were really saying behind closed doors. How to move forward, definitely block them and find new friends for her.
Don't crap on somebody who knows where all your skeletons are.
Several red flags from her. She made it clear that he needs to suck it up and deal with it. And she claimed to have fun, but then gaslighting him saying he "ruined her special day"
She was acting like a 8 year old. She needs to grow up and make decisions for herself. Dude is not the jerk, he should have broken up and moved on when she said no she wants to be with her friends. Aint worth your time my dudes.
W OP you got yourself a girl to marry and new enemies
An ending that's actually worth listening to
Nah she ruined her own bday by choosing her friends over her man. Chances are this is why none of her relationships last, her friends are by themselves so they want her to be. Making your friends a priority over your mate will do that. Let her go, she sux, find someone youll matter too.
They called her a "pick me"
I'd rather pick a gf like her than pick a million of you
Dont be in a relationship with people who still think theyre single!!