There was mention in the very first episode of Gemma teaching Russian literature, and there's bits in the s2 trailer with the outies wearing Russian hats, and it's always snowy, I thought maybe they're actually in Russia or something like that
when Mark takes his watch off to go down to the Severed floor, its a Russian watch. It all might be a trick ala the terrible John Travolta film The Experts in 1989
@@michaelgraham5983it’s not just a watch. This watch was produced for military. I had exactly the same watch when I was a kid my father who was a pilot gave it to me.
@@karlwest437 That's interesting. Mark taught history. And there are references to the civil war. And you're right, she taught Russian literature, and it's almost like they are in Russia. Makes me wonder how much of the world is even real.
@@francescaa8331 If we're building off of the Russia theory, perhaps they're inhabitants of a former Potemkin Village. Every place Mark visits in the outside world appears desolate, like a liminal space. He and his date are the only ones ever at a restaurant besides the staff, the town square is empty other than the protesters and the one punk show, all the neighborhoods the outies live in sit mostly empty. Dan Erickson has cited the Backrooms as an influence, so perhaps there is a "liminal spaces" theme in the show.
I thought that the outside world was an adult human body the moment that I heard “206 countries”, I thought “like bones?” When you look at the Dad character and how he seems to have multiple consciousnesses vying for control of his body, it made me think “oh! Maybe WE’RE inside a body”. If the world outside is being built by many different consciousnesses, if would explain why there are cars from many older decades alongside mobile phones and whatnot. Too many cooks in the kitchen, so to speak.
I also noticed that the cars everyone drives to the office seem old. The parking lot is filled with the same looking car. It seems like some highly controlled society.
Malchik is a boy in Russian. Milchick is a typical Jewish family name popular among Jews in Russia and the world. Milchik derived from milch ,German for Milk 🥛. People with this surname used to prepare diary based foods within the Jewish community. Funny enough they nicknamed him Milkshake.
The Eagan motto "A Cure for Mankind" has a lottle bit of a Twilight Zone "To Searve Man" vibe. Depending on the way you interpret the syntax, it could mean "To cure man of disease" or "To cure earth of man, who is the disease." The Eagan quote "The light of discovery shines truer upon a virgin meadow than a beaten path," could mean Eagon is trying to create blank slates from which to create mankind's superior replacement.
The cure is obviously the chip. When everyone gets the chip LUMON will reset everyone. They will create a humankind without memory of their past creating a brave new world.
Given all the religious allegory and symbolism throughout the show the one theory I've thought of is that the entire severance world is some sort of quasi-purgatory. The word kier means a large metal vat in which fibers, yarns, and fabrics are boiled off, bleached, or dyed. I automatically thought of the painting of Kier standing over the large vat stirring it and it reminded me of all the Biblical references of God as being a purifier, separating and burning off the chaff from the wheat, washing away the sins from the world, separating the goats and sheep, burning away the dross from silver, etc. Water, goats, chemical processes, Macro Data "Refinement", all part of Lumon's business . The one last thing I'd like to add is that the state abbreviation PE. In the Hebrew language the 17th letter is Peh, which in the Bible is abbreviated as PE in Psalm 119:129. That refers to the human mouth, since the shape of the letter itself looks like a mouth. Could the location Kier, PE be literally be translated as "The mouth of the vat"?. I don't know I have a zillion ideas about the show and it continues to be a fascinating piece of TV.
Another hint that the outside world is not real, is the number of countries in which Lumon operates. It is said it operates in 206 countries, although the planet has 195. For me the whole thing (outside world and severed floor) feels somewhat dreamy, surrealistic (the visual thing that happens to Irvin, for example). It feels like a collective dream or reality in which people could be severed several times.
-Murder of doug -They don't know what the innies did during the uprising They most likely have serious control over the town, people in police departments, access to surveillance and city council, etc. But I doubt it's a full on lumon prison.
I think Devon’s real name being Persephone is a clue that, perhaps more people are severed than they realise. Persephone in Ancient Greek mythology is cursed to spend half the time in the underworld and half the time in the real world. Her husband Ricken is defintiely working with Lumon
I have a feeling, that some of this story may end up aligning to the current accelerationist ideology that many tech bros believe. That humanity's current political and economic structures are failing and that the way to solve this is creating corporation like cities where people live in a technological utopia. The issue is, that what is a capitalistic society at it's most direct version? A variation of Lumen. In reality, you cannot control a society to that level and thus people's emotions and tendency to want to leave the society comes into the equation. A society where a company wants you to be fully separated from your private life, and if I may be so bold for you to have your work personality on at all hours of the day, all days a week (regardless of vacation or not) and during your at home time.
Very interesting ideas I hadn't heard elsewhere. Congratulations. That's no small feat. I'm thinking it's one thing to figure out what's going on but it'll likely take two episodes just to explain it.
Both outside and inside is what Baudrillard (Matrix remember?) called hyperreality. It’s when reality is completely artificial and nothing is real. The town of Kier is fake because it essentially was built by LUMON around its headquarters, it’s an extension to their main facility and basically a huge real life laboratory which means that people who finish their shifts never really leave work.
I think they are in the US. Because the other Mark said he came from Grand Rapids, they mentioned they got the other folks from New Jersey, the woman Mark was dating was from Minnesota, Helly, mentioned Delaware. but I think their headquarters and campus are “severed” from larger cities. Like Googleplex, Disney, Alcoa, Tennessee, named for the Aluminum Corporation of America factory; Pullman, IL (now part of south Chicago) named for the man and company that manufactured railway sleeping-cars. I think it’s carved out as separate due to when Lumon was founded and the impact of the Civil War and the town is kept off the map, because Lumon wants to control its own city, include protecting its privacy (another reason why there isn’t a whole lot of update technology). It might have so many entities ran by the Eagans, it has the ability to be considered its own private property. Moreover they had a senator that discussed legislating Lumon. Not saying there are no other senators in other types of government systems but there is too many evidence they are in America than any where else.
I wonder where Dylan went to apply for the job at the door factory? Nobody has mentioned how much he looked like the door company boss - there's no way that was an accident. It's hard to tell what's around the Lumon HQ because there are so many cars in the parking lot and we see so few homes.
This is a clue imo that Ricken has something to do with the weird security guy that was with Cobel and Helena. I think it’s a hint that Ricken is with Lumon
Yeah, outside world is very strange. That first dinner without food, implying they don't have to eat and do it only just for personal pleasure. Darkness and sparse use of light in town, almost like they use energy saving motion activated lamps or something, implying ecological worry or energy crisis. Many buildings and spaces in town seem destroyed or abandoned, like University Mark and Gemma were teaching before joining Lumon look like it's falling apart with rubble covering the floor of research lab and again - no lights, security surveillance or guards anywhere, strange for campus building. Something strange going on with healthcare if rich lady and middle class women had to use wet nurse and rustic cottage instead of hospital and obgyn specialist. Also every car in town is pretty old, not a single modern vehicle anywhere - why? I think it either some kind of simulation or post apocalyptic society that looks relatively nice because they in total control of weird megacorporation that using people for experimentation, outside of this artificial town it maybe hell. Maybe it not just winter, but nuclear winter.
@creepycraiyons3519 when Helena/Helly were standing in front of Helly.’s Sign it said Hell for a frame. The bottom floor hints, the hellish rotating office paintings, all point to that, but that would scream the Good Place 😂
For people questioning why the cars, computers and vibe feel like early 90s. I assume it’s because that was the peak of this kind of office culture. Even the matrix chose to be in the 90s (in lore) It’s a vibe
I think Devons working for Lumin and she's Rickens minder and he's a test subject like maybe they exported brain parts into him - I'd say Kier but I'm not sure he exists, existed, or is just an idea for control. actually she might not even be Mark's sister like maybe he's a project in the outside world too
At first I thought perhaps the town Keir is owned by Lumon similar to how Disney World is operated like a corporate town but I live in Honolulu and many of our streets are actually named after historic business moguls who left legacies that still impact the local community even though they did not necessarily own these streets.
Looking back at how George Jetson’s job was simply turning a wrench, it symbolizes the monotony and repetitive nature of some jobs. But then, life throws an unexpected wrench-like the loss of a loved one-that disrupts everything. In a similar way, I wonder if we are watching an example of AI quietly using our devices, like phones, to not only listen to those around us but also gather personal details we’ve shared, searched online, or even ambient sounds. It feels like AI is attempting to piece together who they are, what they feel, and how they navigate what it assumes to be a world city...creating its own interpretation of us...from the work computer lol
i think that ms. huang is a born experiment (maybe a clone? like them goats and pineapples) and she's working because she technically doesn't exist (outside) so she doesn't have rights either lol. also, it's pretty "ideal" for a company with so many secrets to have imployees they "made" for work and who know nothing besides that. also, i've seen some people argue that maybe she's mark's and gemma's child, gemma being preg during the accident and lumon taking them both to use in different ways, which has some potential in it, idk
One RUclipsr ,can’t remember his name, said that the fact Huang was a crossing guard is very important because it might imply that she also died in a car accident just like Gemma.
@@anglichaninblin that sounds solid af! maybe lumon especifically picks people who died in "violent" manners so their families, which would've indentified them just like mark did, would never believe claims that they could be alive after seeing their bodies in such states
It's a world that is different from ours. Looks like maybe the change came during the civil war. Severance procedure is advanced technology. Innie monitors are old school. Outties have fairly modern computers and internet. Nobody is driving current cars. Phones look like around 2000 - 2006.
The outside world in Severance always gave me a 1970’s-esque, futuristic, creepy-techno-east-Berlin-in-the-80’s type vibe, if that makes any sense 😂. I love the unique feeling it gives me
Yes, the message of the show is that we live in a prison created by corporations, but i doubt that they are all in a prison the way the innies are, just in the way we all are
Thats crazy what if the real person is on the indsode as slaves and then gake perona is actually the guy on the outside who lives in a fake town. Like wasnt there like a shit ton of cars at like in the oitch if night
@@amberjulia123 He's seen photographs of people outdoors who clearly are not in a winter environment. And he most definitely has been outdoors as per the overtime contingency protocol.
I think you're reading way too much into what is an obvious deisgn aesthetic to make audiences feel unsettled and alienated. The show is just about camaraderie in the workplace making a hellacious environment bearable. That's it. No need to analyze everything.
I f3el bad for those states that had "empty streets" during "covid" ...... Florida never had empty streets, mostly everything stayed open and whatever did close was only for like 4-6 weeeks..... And we had alot less cases of it than other states
There was mention in the very first episode of Gemma teaching Russian literature, and there's bits in the s2 trailer with the outies wearing Russian hats, and it's always snowy, I thought maybe they're actually in Russia or something like that
when Mark takes his watch off to go down to the Severed floor, its a Russian watch. It all might be a trick ala the terrible John Travolta film The Experts in 1989
@@michaelgraham5983it’s not just a watch. This watch was produced for military. I had exactly the same watch when I was a kid my father who was a pilot gave it to me.
@@karlwest437 That's interesting. Mark taught history. And there are references to the civil war. And you're right, she taught Russian literature, and it's almost like they are in Russia. Makes me wonder how much of the world is even real.
@@francescaa8331 If we're building off of the Russia theory, perhaps they're inhabitants of a former Potemkin Village. Every place Mark visits in the outside world appears desolate, like a liminal space. He and his date are the only ones ever at a restaurant besides the staff, the town square is empty other than the protesters and the one punk show, all the neighborhoods the outies live in sit mostly empty.
Dan Erickson has cited the Backrooms as an influence, so perhaps there is a "liminal spaces" theme in the show.
@@francescaa8331 ww1, ww2 is meantioned too.
What's with all the old cars in town?
They want us to feel weird about what time this takes place in. That's mostly it is world building.
Also all basic branding like great doors and kola
I came to write the same.
60-80s
The computer monitors aren’t very modern either. Something’s going on here …
I thought that the outside world was an adult human body the moment that I heard “206 countries”, I thought “like bones?”
When you look at the Dad character and how he seems to have multiple consciousnesses vying for control of his body, it made me think “oh! Maybe WE’RE inside a body”. If the world outside is being built by many different consciousnesses, if would explain why there are cars from many older decades alongside mobile phones and whatnot. Too many cooks in the kitchen, so to speak.
I hate the AI voices. The mispronunciation drives me mad
I also noticed that the cars everyone drives to the office seem old. The parking lot is filled with the same looking car. It seems like some highly controlled society.
In stark contrast to Ricken car which is a Range Rover.
Ms. Huang is a child. Milchick sounds like Meilchick, the Russian word for boy. I think there’s something going on here.
Russian word for boy is “mal’chik”
Malchik is a boy in Russian. Milchick is a typical Jewish family name popular among Jews in Russia and the world. Milchik derived from milch ,German for Milk 🥛. People with this surname used to prepare diary based foods within the Jewish community. Funny enough they nicknamed him Milkshake.
@@CyndiWatkins Nice catch!
The Eagan motto "A Cure for Mankind" has a lottle bit of a Twilight Zone "To Searve Man" vibe. Depending on the way you interpret the syntax, it could mean "To cure man of disease" or "To cure earth of man, who is the disease."
The Eagan quote "The light of discovery shines truer upon a virgin meadow than a beaten path," could mean Eagon is trying to create blank slates from which to create mankind's superior replacement.
The cure is obviously the chip. When everyone gets the chip LUMON will reset everyone. They will create a humankind without memory of their past creating a brave new world.
Given all the religious allegory and symbolism throughout the show the one theory I've thought of is that the entire severance world is some sort of quasi-purgatory. The word kier means a large metal vat in which fibers, yarns, and fabrics are boiled off, bleached, or dyed. I automatically thought of the painting of Kier standing over the large vat stirring it and it reminded me of all the Biblical references of God as being a purifier, separating and burning off the chaff from the wheat, washing away the sins from the world, separating the goats and sheep, burning away the dross from silver, etc. Water, goats, chemical processes, Macro Data "Refinement", all part of Lumon's business . The one last thing I'd like to add is that the state abbreviation PE. In the Hebrew language the 17th letter is Peh, which in the Bible is abbreviated as PE in Psalm 119:129. That refers to the human mouth, since the shape of the letter itself looks like a mouth. Could the location Kier, PE be literally be translated as "The mouth of the vat"?. I don't know I have a zillion ideas about the show and it continues to be a fascinating piece of TV.
Purgatory maybe! A bit like ‘Lost’ or it is a dystopian future and Lumon reigns supreme… anyhoo it’s definitely gripping 🤓
Another hint that the outside world is not real, is the number of countries in which Lumon operates. It is said it operates in 206 countries, although the planet has 195.
For me the whole thing (outside world and severed floor) feels somewhat dreamy, surrealistic (the visual thing that happens to Irvin, for example). It feels like a collective dream or reality in which people could be severed several times.
this guys on to something hereeeeee
I have been saying this since the dinner party episode.
Theyre all innies.
-Murder of doug
-They don't know what the innies did during the uprising
They most likely have serious control over the town, people in police departments, access to surveillance and city council, etc.
But I doubt it's a full on lumon prison.
Like trying to stimulate an entire town of just severed people?
@ maybe theyre npc or clone shells?
I think Devon’s real name being Persephone is a clue that, perhaps more people are severed than they realise. Persephone in Ancient Greek mythology is cursed to spend half the time in the underworld and half the time in the real world. Her husband Ricken is defintiely working with Lumon
@@chioma5633 her real name isn't persephone. That was an inside joke between the two them to show Devon that Mark was really his outtie.
I have a feeling, that some of this story may end up aligning to the current accelerationist ideology that many tech bros believe. That humanity's current political and economic structures are failing and that the way to solve this is creating corporation like cities where people live in a technological utopia. The issue is, that what is a capitalistic society at it's most direct version? A variation of Lumen. In reality, you cannot control a society to that level and thus people's emotions and tendency to want to leave the society comes into the equation. A society where a company wants you to be fully separated from your private life, and if I may be so bold for you to have your work personality on at all hours of the day, all days a week (regardless of vacation or not) and during your at home time.
Very interesting ideas I hadn't heard elsewhere. Congratulations. That's no small feat. I'm thinking it's one thing to figure out what's going on but it'll likely take two episodes just to explain it.
Why the heck is Devon married to that guy?
Rich, famous, clever, kind ? 🤷🏻
@@anglichaninblin I see him as stupid, insecure and condescending.
Devon can easily do better.
Because he’s a good partner
@@thecourtneyking In what way is he a good partner?
He seems condescending to Devon and he pushes his ideas and his wants on her. He's all about him.
Devon seems like one of the only real characters in the outside world and her with Ricken makes NO sense to me
Glad to see someone take time to humour this question because it’s been the in back of my mind for a long time.
how about 3 splits in severance. innie/outie and the real world. The outie world with the retro tech is not even real :)
That's what I've been thinking. The 'outside world' that we see is so weird in multiple ways that it begs the question that it's even real.
Both outside and inside is what Baudrillard (Matrix remember?) called hyperreality. It’s when reality is completely artificial and nothing is real. The town of Kier is fake because it essentially was built by LUMON around its headquarters, it’s an extension to their main facility and basically a huge real life laboratory which means that people who finish their shifts never really leave work.
the outie world is clearly not our contemporary world even though they seem contemporary.
I've always felt that the town is oddly empty: the Lumon carpark, Pip's...
I think they are in the US. Because the other Mark said he came from Grand Rapids, they mentioned they got the other folks from New Jersey, the woman Mark was dating was from Minnesota, Helly, mentioned Delaware.
but I think their headquarters and campus are “severed” from larger cities. Like Googleplex, Disney, Alcoa, Tennessee, named for the Aluminum Corporation of America factory; Pullman, IL (now part of south Chicago) named for the man and company that manufactured railway sleeping-cars.
I think it’s carved out as separate due to when Lumon was founded and the impact of the Civil War and the town is kept off the map, because Lumon wants to control its own city, include protecting its privacy (another reason why there isn’t a whole lot of update technology).
It might have so many entities ran by the Eagans, it has the ability to be considered its own private property. Moreover they had a senator that discussed legislating Lumon. Not saying there are no other senators in other types of government systems but there is too many evidence they are in America than any where else.
I wonder where Dylan went to apply for the job at the door factory? Nobody has mentioned how much he looked like the door company boss - there's no way that was an accident. It's hard to tell what's around the Lumon HQ because there are so many cars in the parking lot and we see so few homes.
Everyone has mentioned how they look alike lol
This is a clue imo that Ricken has something to do with the weird security guy that was with Cobel and Helena. I think it’s a hint that Ricken is with Lumon
Yeah, outside world is very strange. That first dinner without food, implying they don't have to eat and do it only just for personal pleasure. Darkness and sparse use of light in town, almost like they use energy saving motion activated lamps or something, implying ecological worry or energy crisis. Many buildings and spaces in town seem destroyed or abandoned, like University Mark and Gemma were teaching before joining Lumon look like it's falling apart with rubble covering the floor of research lab and again - no lights, security surveillance or guards anywhere, strange for campus building. Something strange going on with healthcare if rich lady and middle class women had to use wet nurse and rustic cottage instead of hospital and obgyn specialist. Also every car in town is pretty old, not a single modern vehicle anywhere - why? I think it either some kind of simulation or post apocalyptic society that looks relatively nice because they in total control of weird megacorporation that using people for experimentation, outside of this artificial town it maybe hell. Maybe it not just winter, but nuclear winter.
im calling it now, there's no way Kier is actually a real human; he was made up by Lumon or whoever is above them
This video is narrated by AI right? Feels off...
Hell. They’re in Hell. I’m calling it now.
Even little Eleanor?
I feel like going supernatural ruins the sci-fi part though
@creepycraiyons3519 when Helena/Helly were standing in front of Helly.’s Sign it said Hell for a frame. The bottom floor hints, the hellish rotating office paintings, all point to that, but that would scream the Good Place 😂
For people questioning why the cars, computers and vibe feel like early 90s.
I assume it’s because that was the peak of this kind of office culture.
Even the matrix chose to be in the 90s (in lore)
It’s a vibe
I think Devons working for Lumin and she's Rickens minder and he's a test subject like maybe they exported brain parts into him - I'd say Kier but I'm not sure he exists, existed, or is just an idea for control. actually she might not even be Mark's sister like maybe he's a project in the outside world too
I've said the same thing. There's something strange about that "community". It seems very closed and sparesely populated.
At first I thought perhaps the town Keir is owned by Lumon similar to how Disney World is operated like a corporate town but I live in Honolulu and many of our streets are actually named after historic business moguls who left legacies that still impact the local community even though they did not necessarily own these streets.
Looking back at how George Jetson’s job was simply turning a wrench, it symbolizes the monotony and repetitive nature of some jobs. But then, life throws an unexpected wrench-like the loss of a loved one-that disrupts everything. In a similar way, I wonder if we are watching an example of AI quietly using our devices, like phones, to not only listen to those around us but also gather personal details we’ve shared, searched online, or even ambient sounds. It feels like AI is attempting to piece together who they are, what they feel, and how they navigate what it assumes to be a world city...creating its own interpretation of us...from the work computer lol
@@antarfinney8272 🤯
i think that ms. huang is a born experiment (maybe a clone? like them goats and pineapples) and she's working because she technically doesn't exist (outside) so she doesn't have rights either lol. also, it's pretty "ideal" for a company with so many secrets to have imployees they "made" for work and who know nothing besides that. also, i've seen some people argue that maybe she's mark's and gemma's child, gemma being preg during the accident and lumon taking them both to use in different ways, which has some potential in it, idk
One RUclipsr ,can’t remember his name, said that the fact Huang was a crossing guard is very important because it might imply that she also died in a car accident just like Gemma.
@@anglichaninblin that sounds solid af! maybe lumon especifically picks people who died in "violent" manners so their families, which would've indentified them just like mark did, would never believe claims that they could be alive after seeing their bodies in such states
This is a very good topic but the script is so repetitive, it seems written by AI. And possibly read by AI too.
It's a world that is different from ours. Looks like maybe the change came during the civil war.
Severance procedure is advanced technology.
Innie monitors are old school.
Outties have fairly modern computers and internet.
Nobody is driving current cars.
Phones look like around 2000 - 2006.
The outside world in Severance always gave me a 1970’s-esque, futuristic, creepy-techno-east-Berlin-in-the-80’s type vibe, if that makes any sense 😂. I love the unique feeling it gives me
Yes, the message of the show is that we live in a prison created by corporations, but i doubt that they are all in a prison the way the innies are, just in the way we all are
Dylan has a wife and kids, so he has connections as an outie.
Like the Truman show she turned around her car in the tundra.
This show is giving me Dark City vibes! Anyone else feels this way?
The most we've seen of the outside world was when Mark went out on a date with Devon's doula. They showed them walking down the city street.
Mark isnt the only one who shares connections between innie and outtie. Helly/Helena lol
I thought Irving had the strongest connection out of all of them
5X - maybe x for exports? like a body or brain storage/cryo type thing
Thats crazy what if the real person is on the indsode as slaves and then gake perona is actually the guy on the outside who lives in a fake town. Like wasnt there like a shit ton of cars at like in the oitch if night
I didn't see M Night Shayamalyan in the credits.
Narrator sounds AI from the way they pronounce some words
Omg severance is the prime silo
The color in the outside world reminds me of the Matrix.
Well i think mark.s is the kier eagan
this is what i thought from beginning
it’s all a.i. the a.i made lumon and created another universe of severed people
Agree they make the severed version of their previous themself...lol
I had the same thought. The mannequin of kier eagan looks just like an aged up Mark S
bold af. point taken tho
Is this an ai voice?
That's what I was thinking. Can't wait until we get an AI-voice detector.
I was just thinking this lmao something’s off
I think everyone in the town of Kier is a descendant of him
They tell Mark that he's been gone 5 months when he's only been gone two days. But it's still winter, and he doesn't question.
His Innie has no idea what season it is. His Innie has never even seen the sun before.
@@amberjulia123 He's seen photographs of people outdoors who clearly are not in a winter environment. And he most definitely has been outdoors as per the overtime contingency protocol.
His innie doesn’t know it’s still winter.
How would his innie know it's still winter? Since the overtime contingency he has only been in the severed floor of the lumon building
@ No, he visited his sister's home. Remember the kerfuffle when he recognized Solveig as Cobel?
What if they’re the last people on earth.
I think you're reading way too much into what is an obvious deisgn aesthetic to make audiences feel unsettled and alienated.
The show is just about camaraderie in the workplace making a hellacious environment bearable. That's it. No need to analyze everything.
A simulations simulation
That seems too close to the plot of the movie the 13th floor
yep, North Korea like.🤔🤔🤔
why do you say lumon so weird lol
Nope. Daft idea
I'm calling it; Kier is alive and he's gonna be played by Owen Wilson
@@Luv-kz3jj WOW 😂
LooMON
MoooLon
How lazy are you to not even read aloud
It’s ‘LUMONS’ not Lumon
I f3el bad for those states that had "empty streets" during "covid" ......
Florida never had empty streets, mostly everything stayed open and whatever did close was only for like 4-6 weeeks.....
And we had alot less cases of it than other states