It's unfortunate that the MCU hasn't been able to capture that Marvel Universe feel anymore. I'm a huge fan of the movies but do agree that they don't always capture the appeal of certain characters/storylines. Like the Secret Invasion tv show? Terrible. I do have hope for the future after the MCU seems to be improving in overall quality with more character driven stories and team up movies in the future. I just hope they can do Dr. Doom well since the past two movie iterations failed to understand the character. And finally, they can put an end to multiverse movies with Secret Wars and soft reboot with the fantastic four and x-men being in the MCU
Yeah i saw the devs letter "Family First" the whole team really love MCU. All the departments are just fangirling. There's so much deep cut references.
As a strategist, I PRAY that we never get role queue, we get people who instalock sometimes but no role queue opens the game up to a near infinite amount of surprising synergies and comps
I’m not a huge Marvel fan but I SUPER agree about the whole MCU thing! Everything Marvel-related was like the MCU. The Guardians of the Galaxy are my favorite Marvel characters, mostly because of the MCU but it’s SO COOL to see a Star Lord design that doesn’t look like Chris Pratt at all. And his lore is apparently more comic accurate. It makes me so happy for all the hardcore Marvel fans who love the comics. I’m pumped to learn about obscure Marvel characters I’ve never heard of.
I think one of the things the developers have done that is very smart is how they've tackled the "tank" problem. With really few exceptions, tanks (or Vanguards, if you prefer) in Rivals have much more active and energetic playstyles, instead of just standing in front of your team, blocking damage. Captain America, Hulk, Thor, Venom, even Peni are all very mobile characters and their playstyles are usually about disruption and drawing attention to let the rest of your team do their jobs. I think this, the relative variety of DPS (aka Duelist) characters and the presence of team-up abilities is why role queue really isn't needed in this game. I also think this stepping away from strict genre conventions will also free the developers to get creative with their designs. Just look at the recent reveal of Mr. Fantastic. He's classed as a "Duelist" but he has 350 base HP, has abilities that can deflect damage and grant allies bonus health and even has a "tanky" form that gives him a health pool as large as a Vanguard. Having Mr. Fantastic on your team is almost like having a damage-dealer that can add a little bit of support and off-tanking as well. There's Storm (a DPS/Duelist) that grants her team movement and damage boosts. It's a design space that I think the developers know gives them a lot more room for unique ideas.
Yep And braindead journos called it "lack of clearly defined roles". Which is bs, because no one want to be "clearly defined" bullet sponge or healbot. People come into action games to kick asses, and every character should be able to do so. So three roles are "kick asses + draw enemy focus", "kick asses + heal/buff allies" and "kick asses + kick asses". And as you pointed out, roles can blend, and duelists can also sometimes able to do some tanking/supporting just as vanguards and strategists are not harmless for the enemy, nor passive.
The vanguards in higher play block damage for healers and they can shoot from there while divers flank when vanguards push and finally DPS stops healers from being dived by flankers
If DC does bring something out, I hope they focus on the whole PvE thing. It will make their game stand out more while also utilizing the various movement based powers a lot of them have.
All DC cares about is Batman, Batman, and Batman Whether it be the character himself (Arkham series), support characters from his lore (Gotham Knights), or his rogues gallery (Suicide Squad)…. Ppl say they want DC to do something similar, but guarantee when it comes time to construct the roster…..Batman, characters from his lore, and his rogue’s gallery will be sucking up majority of the oxygen in the room and filling most of the spots at the character selection.
Meanwhile, I'm pretty much where I want to be, as a Vanguard. I started playing OW1 around 2017, and ended up as Rein main, since he was the only real main tank on ladder. Overtime, tanking became worse and worse though, so before Rivals released, I was a flex player. To be fair, the signs were there from the start of how bad tanking in Overwatch would be. So much BS in that game a tank can't do anything about, and that's just talking about release Overwatch. Rivals by comparison is a breath of fresh air for me. Even Cap has his moments where you just live despite having no business being alive. And now we have Mister Fantastic as a new Vanguard to add to my roster. And before anyone mentions he's a Duelist, NetEase is lying to you. I can honestly say, I'm home
Great video! I also main hulk. If you didn't know this, I would like to let you know this Hulk tip. You can charge the jump and keep it charged indefinitely. AND you can use your auto attack and any of your abilities while you are charging jump or holding your jump. This lets you leap around much more often. Attack an enemy here, jump away. When you land start charging jump and punch your opponents or shield your allies, then after your done, you have a full jump ready to go. TLDR: charge and store your jump WHILE you attack and use your other abilities.
When you get something we DONT know come back update us 😂 no seriously though it's very helpful and will advance the development of new tactics in the total rivals moveset 🗣️
@blackamericandestroyergod1957 I felt like he didn't know that as he was never pre charging his jump. I'm trying to help him, not whoever you are. Anyway season 1 let's goo
I’ve never been great at these kinds of games, but I think that proves how good and beginner friendly Rivals is. I’m never gonna even try Overwatch but get me on Rocket and I’ll play Rivals any day
@Vulcan76760 sameee, I thought I was going to main Venom or Spiderman (as I loved the Spiderman games) but somehow cloak and dagger felt so fun to switch between healer and dps
I adore this game too. I think its probably closer to TF2 than overwatch because its so CQC focused and im all for it. Im a 14 inches of venom main and just swinging and slamming into enemies and going bananas is cocaine for me. I hate most hero shooters because of the inherently competitive nature so I strongly hope we dont have slot que added as it will ruin the magic of the game of having a team of 5 big guys beating the snot out of the enemies, optimal or not. It makes every game flow so uniquely
hulk main here, always have your jump charged up, always and try to jump and get up to the enemies face as much as possible (mb if this is redundant advice, I saw you just walking in the b-roll and it felt weird since you're supposed to fly across the screen over and over as hulk)
I thought that the only missing from him was his cape but once had an enemy thor and saw how godly he was already, it makes me realize its the best design for him
My current Mains are Groot, Penny, Rocket, Namor and Mr. Fantastic. I totally understand your Hulk story. It’s very similar to why I started playing Rocket. I was playing with my Friends for the first time my friend wanted to play tank so I switched roles and I haven’t stopped playing Rocket since. I will probably always love playing Tank (Mr. Fantastic is basically a Tank) but Rocket is still the character I am the best at.
This misnomer with Rivals is a bunch of people call it a “shooter” I think the reason it’s so enjoyable is because there actually isn’t all that much “shooting” in the game
I just wish there was a melee strategist. As an Iron Fist main, I can play the other melee Duelists pretty well (expect for Spiderman...); but because of that, I'm able to play a few vanguards too. Specifically Captain America. Its very easy to transition Duelist skills into vanguards. But, strategists are such a different ball park that I get overwhelmed when I try to play any of them. I wish there was a way to transition in an easier way into healer so I can be more helpful 💀. I've actually thought of a ton of characters who could be a melee strategist because the idea feels so easy. Miles Morales to get Spiderman and Venom players to heal. Jane Fost"thor" for the same reason but for Thor players. Spitfire as an obscure choice with an interesting mechanic (speed). Morbius because people would play him for the meme, so you'd get tons of people to actually learn strategist. Etc. Theres a lot of potential there.
I have a feeling netease now released Invisible woman into the wild specifically for you lol. She's basically a duelist disguised as a support, just how Mr.Fantastic is a mini-tank disguised as a duelist.
All right when it comes to me when I first started playing the game I wanted my main to be venom because he looked so awesome but I just couldn't get him down so eventually I landed on someone that I never thought I would like Moon Knight. Lo and behold he ended up becoming probably my favorite character currently in the game and I started trying to maintain him. I end up running into the whole thing where everyone would lock in a duelist so I finally decided that if there are three duelists or more I would just switch to whatever role we needed so I started testing out some of the tanks and some of the healers and I end up coming to the conclusion that I'm just going to have to find a main for all three classes. My main for tank is Doctor strange my main for healer is Loki which completely surprised me because I thought he was too complicated when I first saw him on someone's video and that I would never be able to get him down but he was the easiest for me to learn out of all the healers and I absolutely love him especially since I've been able to get MVP with him. I don't even know how many times just by aiming at our tanks and everyone that's in the thick of it to heal them as much as possible that I would just get so many kills with the AOE. There's nothing quite like showing a friend you met on marvel rivals your 35 and 6 MVP game with your Loki😂 and to me that is where I have found true enjoyment in this game. Being able to do something so stupidly awesome like getting a 35 and 6 with Loki and show it to your friends and see them get awestruck that you were able to do something so stupid and awesome at the same time is amazing. By the way as soon as Ghost Rider gets released I don't care what class he is he will immediately be my new main for that class because he is my favorite character in all of marvel comics (I just hope they don't make him a support because that would feel kind of bad😂)
I completely understand how you feel this is actually my very first shooter ever I have traditionally only played fighting games in my entire life, but my friends asked me to try out marvels and said it was third person and free. I said why not and now I am hooked I haven’t played a fighting game since it launched. Relying on a team is new to me, in fighting games if I lose. I know it was me, but team games are way different lol
It’s a great game. Personally I still prefer Overwatch but rn I’m balls deep with rivals and I’m uploading videos weekly. I might go back to Overwatch at some point but right now rivals is where it’s at.
I had to be a bit political. But nowadays games and Hollywood somethimes keep listening to the loud community and wanted to please them. Instead to make something fun and less political. A good example why Marvel Rivals succeed. Maybe because it was made outside of the west influcence? 🙄
The MCU's real problem is they hate the source material, the writers and actors get told to not read the comics. Mix that with wanting to preach an agenda that wasn't needed changing characters that were great. There are so many stories and characters out there. They keep trying to push an agenda of inclusivity into nerd hobbies that were already accepting of all comers, Everyine wants faithful characters to what they were in the comics. MCU bruce is a loser compared to the bruce of the comics
@@Spacen1213 comics Bruce is a mess of a character effectively you cannot plop his character into a new series completely faithfully (Joe fixit, and his massive catalog of alternate egos) like I think the basic hulk that’s most commonly portrayed in the animated tv shows is just superior at least in terms of not being a mess to plot when he’s not the focus
This isn't 100 percent true. A lot of actors/writers are encouraged to read the comics if they want to though they have said they don't want to hire people who are fans/love Marvel for some reason, the only one where they told the writers not to read the comics is Secret Invasion as they never intended to properly adapt that comic which I semi understand as that comic can't be adapted as spy thriller mini-series but it was definitely a mistake to not read at all, since there is a lot of elements that could have been used in that show, and it shows in that show being one of the worst Marvel Studios products ever.
Same but the game flew under my radar because I thought i didnt care for marvel anymore. Turns out I was just tired of all the MCU slop
It's unfortunate that the MCU hasn't been able to capture that Marvel Universe feel anymore. I'm a huge fan of the movies but do agree that they don't always capture the appeal of certain characters/storylines. Like the Secret Invasion tv show? Terrible. I do have hope for the future after the MCU seems to be improving in overall quality with more character driven stories and team up movies in the future. I just hope they can do Dr. Doom well since the past two movie iterations failed to understand the character. And finally, they can put an end to multiverse movies with Secret Wars and soft reboot with the fantastic four and x-men being in the MCU
MCU slop: slop responsible for EVERYTHING turning into slop.
Wow
@@jabrondestoroyah Okay bruh you're doing too much. we get it. you don't fw the mcu. It's not THAT deep
Same thoughts op
Yeah i saw the devs letter "Family First" the whole team really love MCU. All the departments are just fangirling. There's so much deep cut references.
As a strategist, I PRAY that we never get role queue, we get people who instalock sometimes but no role queue opens the game up to a near infinite amount of surprising synergies and comps
Nothing more fun then playing as the one healer on a team with 5 dps and somehow still destroying the enemy
I’m not a huge Marvel fan but I SUPER agree about the whole MCU thing! Everything Marvel-related was like the MCU. The Guardians of the Galaxy are my favorite Marvel characters, mostly because of the MCU but it’s SO COOL to see a Star Lord design that doesn’t look like Chris Pratt at all. And his lore is apparently more comic accurate. It makes me so happy for all the hardcore Marvel fans who love the comics. I’m pumped to learn about obscure Marvel characters I’ve never heard of.
@@swarple and even if someone did want it. There's a skin for mcu star lord, tbh I don't play him so idk if it looks like him
I have good news. Thor is getting a free skin at the start of s1.
Not quite the start but I LOVE the skin. Definitely feels more like default Thor to me
I think one of the things the developers have done that is very smart is how they've tackled the "tank" problem. With really few exceptions, tanks (or Vanguards, if you prefer) in Rivals have much more active and energetic playstyles, instead of just standing in front of your team, blocking damage. Captain America, Hulk, Thor, Venom, even Peni are all very mobile characters and their playstyles are usually about disruption and drawing attention to let the rest of your team do their jobs. I think this, the relative variety of DPS (aka Duelist) characters and the presence of team-up abilities is why role queue really isn't needed in this game. I also think this stepping away from strict genre conventions will also free the developers to get creative with their designs. Just look at the recent reveal of Mr. Fantastic. He's classed as a "Duelist" but he has 350 base HP, has abilities that can deflect damage and grant allies bonus health and even has a "tanky" form that gives him a health pool as large as a Vanguard. Having Mr. Fantastic on your team is almost like having a damage-dealer that can add a little bit of support and off-tanking as well. There's Storm (a DPS/Duelist) that grants her team movement and damage boosts. It's a design space that I think the developers know gives them a lot more room for unique ideas.
Yep
And braindead journos called it "lack of clearly defined roles". Which is bs, because no one want to be "clearly defined" bullet sponge or healbot. People come into action games to kick asses, and every character should be able to do so. So three roles are "kick asses + draw enemy focus", "kick asses + heal/buff allies" and "kick asses + kick asses". And as you pointed out, roles can blend, and duelists can also sometimes able to do some tanking/supporting just as vanguards and strategists are not harmless for the enemy, nor passive.
The vanguards in higher play block damage for healers and they can shoot from there while divers flank when vanguards push and finally DPS stops healers from being dived by flankers
12:12 that jeff was on your team! He just threw you guys off the map lmao
My friend Vmeg had no idea what he was doing that game 😭
If DC does bring something out, I hope they focus on the whole PvE thing. It will make their game stand out more while also utilizing the various movement based powers a lot of them have.
@@graveyardshift2100 yeah a pve hero looter shooter from dc with various movement based powers... sounds familiar...
@@whatiswhat8061 you're right, lol.
@unkn0wn_persona545 still sad about KtJL they fumbled so hard
@@whatiswhat8061 Agreed, ktjl was such a shameful half-assed product.
All DC cares about is Batman, Batman, and Batman
Whether it be the character himself (Arkham series), support characters from his lore (Gotham Knights), or his rogues gallery (Suicide Squad)….
Ppl say they want DC to do something similar, but guarantee when it comes time to construct the roster…..Batman, characters from his lore, and his rogue’s gallery will be sucking up majority of the oxygen in the room and filling most of the spots at the character selection.
Meanwhile, I'm pretty much where I want to be, as a Vanguard.
I started playing OW1 around 2017, and ended up as Rein main, since he was the only real main tank on ladder. Overtime, tanking became worse and worse though, so before Rivals released, I was a flex player. To be fair, the signs were there from the start of how bad tanking in Overwatch would be. So much BS in that game a tank can't do anything about, and that's just talking about release Overwatch.
Rivals by comparison is a breath of fresh air for me. Even Cap has his moments where you just live despite having no business being alive. And now we have Mister Fantastic as a new Vanguard to add to my roster. And before anyone mentions he's a Duelist, NetEase is lying to you.
I can honestly say, I'm home
Great video! I also main hulk. If you didn't know this, I would like to let you know this Hulk tip.
You can charge the jump and keep it charged indefinitely. AND you can use your auto attack and any of your abilities while you are charging jump or holding your jump.
This lets you leap around much more often. Attack an enemy here, jump away. When you land start charging jump and punch your opponents or shield your allies, then after your done, you have a full jump ready to go.
TLDR: charge and store your jump WHILE you attack and use your other abilities.
When you get something we DONT know come back update us 😂 no seriously though it's very helpful and will advance the development of new tactics in the total rivals moveset 🗣️
@blackamericandestroyergod1957 I felt like he didn't know that as he was never pre charging his jump. I'm trying to help him, not whoever you are.
Anyway season 1 let's goo
12:36 Why does this moment resonate with we so much!?!...😂😂 I have felt your pain and frustration mann...😮💨🤦🏾♂️
I had one similar, had a dude who stayed at spawn and spammed gg in chat, we managed to win and he had the audacity to say freak accident
I have no problem with wolverine design some people just don't like new things.
And wolverine in the comics was only 5'4, netease respecting the source material is 👌
I’ve never been great at these kinds of games, but I think that proves how good and beginner friendly Rivals is. I’m never gonna even try Overwatch but get me on Rocket and I’ll play Rivals any day
Out of all characters, i didnt expect to be a cloak and dagger main
@Vulcan76760 sameee, I thought I was going to main Venom or Spiderman (as I loved the Spiderman games) but somehow cloak and dagger felt so fun to switch between healer and dps
Day One of Overwatch I obsessed about the potential for a game like it with Marvel characters, so I am very happy.
Wolverine looks exactly like himself. Short and stocky. Im so confused. His design looks great!
I adore this game too. I think its probably closer to TF2 than overwatch because its so CQC focused and im all for it. Im a 14 inches of venom main and just swinging and slamming into enemies and going bananas is cocaine for me. I hate most hero shooters because of the inherently competitive nature so I strongly hope we dont have slot que added as it will ruin the magic of the game of having a team of 5 big guys beating the snot out of the enemies, optimal or not. It makes every game flow so uniquely
hulk main here, always have your jump charged up, always and try to jump and get up to the enemies face as much as possible (mb if this is redundant advice, I saw you just walking in the b-roll and it felt weird since you're supposed to fly across the screen over and over as hulk)
Will be taking the advice next time I play Hulk 🙏
4:42 Incredibles reference spotted
OW copied TF2 in 100000 ways. But when another game "copies" OW it's the end of the world lol. Blizzard Shillers are so whack.
In my opinion Logans design is good, its different and i like it
Who's criticising Thor's design?
I know, Thor's design looks badass in Rivals
Old bearded Thor is peak Thor
Yeah I have not heard anyone personally
I thought that the only missing from him was his cape but once had an enemy thor and saw how godly he was already, it makes me realize its the best design for him
My current Mains are Groot, Penny, Rocket, Namor and Mr. Fantastic. I totally understand your Hulk story. It’s very similar to why I started playing Rocket. I was playing with my Friends for the first time my friend wanted to play tank so I switched roles and I haven’t stopped playing Rocket since. I will probably always love playing Tank (Mr. Fantastic is basically a Tank) but Rocket is still the character I am the best at.
This misnomer with Rivals is a bunch of people call it a “shooter” I think the reason it’s so enjoyable is because there actually isn’t all that much “shooting” in the game
I just wish there was a melee strategist. As an Iron Fist main, I can play the other melee Duelists pretty well (expect for Spiderman...); but because of that, I'm able to play a few vanguards too. Specifically Captain America. Its very easy to transition Duelist skills into vanguards.
But, strategists are such a different ball park that I get overwhelmed when I try to play any of them. I wish there was a way to transition in an easier way into healer so I can be more helpful 💀.
I've actually thought of a ton of characters who could be a melee strategist because the idea feels so easy.
Miles Morales to get Spiderman and Venom players to heal.
Jane Fost"thor" for the same reason but for Thor players.
Spitfire as an obscure choice with an interesting mechanic (speed).
Morbius because people would play him for the meme, so you'd get tons of people to actually learn strategist.
Etc. Theres a lot of potential there.
@thelabrat7789 Don't worry, I am sure there is something down the pipeline with the massive roster they can pull from
I have a feeling netease now released Invisible woman into the wild specifically for you lol. She's basically a duelist disguised as a support, just how Mr.Fantastic is a mini-tank disguised as a duelist.
All right when it comes to me when I first started playing the game I wanted my main to be venom because he looked so awesome but I just couldn't get him down so eventually I landed on someone that I never thought I would like Moon Knight. Lo and behold he ended up becoming probably my favorite character currently in the game and I started trying to maintain him. I end up running into the whole thing where everyone would lock in a duelist so I finally decided that if there are three duelists or more I would just switch to whatever role we needed so I started testing out some of the tanks and some of the healers and I end up coming to the conclusion that I'm just going to have to find a main for all three classes. My main for tank is Doctor strange my main for healer is Loki which completely surprised me because I thought he was too complicated when I first saw him on someone's video and that I would never be able to get him down but he was the easiest for me to learn out of all the healers and I absolutely love him especially since I've been able to get MVP with him. I don't even know how many times just by aiming at our tanks and everyone that's in the thick of it to heal them as much as possible that I would just get so many kills with the AOE. There's nothing quite like showing a friend you met on marvel rivals your 35 and 6 MVP game with your Loki😂 and to me that is where I have found true enjoyment in this game. Being able to do something so stupidly awesome like getting a 35 and 6 with Loki and show it to your friends and see them get awestruck that you were able to do something so stupid and awesome at the same time is amazing. By the way as soon as Ghost Rider gets released I don't care what class he is he will immediately be my new main for that class because he is my favorite character in all of marvel comics (I just hope they don't make him a support because that would feel kind of bad😂)
Great video, just don’t forget to thank your healers 😁
I completely understand how you feel this is actually my very first shooter ever I have traditionally only played fighting games in my entire life, but my friends asked me to try out marvels and said it was third person and free. I said why not and now I am hooked I haven’t played a fighting game since it launched. Relying on a team is new to me, in fighting games if I lose. I know it was me, but team games are way different lol
When he started talking I thought I accidentally clicked on a Rage gaming video.
Imo wolverine would look better if he was a bit slimmer, he looks like a Harry brick in Rivals lol
Hearing scarlet witch slander is so foreign to me bcs of how utterly garbage she is😭
It’s a great game. Personally I still prefer Overwatch but rn I’m balls deep with rivals and I’m uploading videos weekly. I might go back to Overwatch at some point but right now rivals is where it’s at.
Great video man. Glory to China! 🇨🇳🙏
What characters feel ripped from ow?
It’s too late china doesn’t forgot
banger vid! Subbed and liked :) good day sir
Disagree with wolverine, i just dont like how WIDE he is lmao. Ill still play him, hes still fun but its so off putting to me.
my new hobby is watching these apoloy videos lol
I had to be a bit political. But nowadays games and Hollywood somethimes keep listening to the loud community and wanted to please them. Instead to make something fun and less political. A good example why Marvel Rivals succeed. Maybe because it was made outside of the west influcence? 🙄
The MCU's real problem is they hate the source material, the writers and actors get told to not read the comics. Mix that with wanting to preach an agenda that wasn't needed changing characters that were great. There are so many stories and characters out there. They keep trying to push an agenda of inclusivity into nerd hobbies that were already accepting of all comers, Everyine wants faithful characters to what they were in the comics. MCU bruce is a loser compared to the bruce of the comics
@@Spacen1213 comics Bruce is a mess of a character effectively you cannot plop his character into a new series completely faithfully (Joe fixit, and his massive catalog of alternate egos) like I think the basic hulk that’s most commonly portrayed in the animated tv shows is just superior at least in terms of not being a mess to plot when he’s not the focus
This isn't 100 percent true. A lot of actors/writers are encouraged to read the comics if they want to though they have said they don't want to hire people who are fans/love Marvel for some reason, the only one where they told the writers not to read the comics is Secret Invasion as they never intended to properly adapt that comic which I semi understand as that comic can't be adapted as spy thriller mini-series but it was definitely a mistake to not read at all, since there is a lot of elements that could have been used in that show, and it shows in that show being one of the worst Marvel Studios products ever.
Overall great video man
It won't win cause dei or kid game will win
I never play shooter and multiplayer online… this game changed me 🫥 definitely my type of game
When he started talking I thought I accidentally clicked on a Rage gaming video.