Hello everyone! There seems to be some SPAM because we mentioned investing. Just ignore it pls. We don’t want to talk on WhatsApp. Even if it’s “our” account!
Guys, I feel sick watching this video. You "invest in crypto" lmfao. Wtf does that even mean? 98% of all cryptos are scams. And you have "hedge funds recommending to buy watches", do you know how many hedge funs lose money end of day? Plenty. Funny how you try to portray yourselves as financial gurus - only bec the watch market took off.
*I'm glad I came across this video, I ask politely ,does anyone know how I can go about growing $50k dollars I have? I am very open to all suggestions and recommendations. God bless*
I will suggest you get a RIA who would help build investment plans and channel your money on something Lucrative ,which in a short term , would bring in better returns. Its just a personal opinion tho.
@@marchettibianca1367 I was able to invest,and build a portfolio through the help I got from Rodney Hamilton Steve a *RIA* , who did not only advised me well , but also managed my portfolio to prevent any loss. I’m sure there are a lot of RIAs out there , but I'm glad I chose to work with *Rodney Hamilton Steve* . Today , I own a *Portfolio* worth *$500k* which is clear evidence of *Rodney Hamilton Steve* great work.
@@angelolucas70 That’s so awesome!! How can I connect with such an experience Investment adviser as I’m willing to work with him. I really hope you don’t mind and that it’s okay with you to share his information here with me?
@@marchettibianca1367 You can look him up on the *INTERNET* where you can get necessary info about him as well as reach out to him. Do the check using his full name; *RODNEY HAMILTON STEVE*
I think you mean, Christian? He's young, seems to have worked hard, and has experienced a degree of success. If there is some cockiness, then that will surely be dealt with through living life. Life (adversity) has its ways of exposing weaknesses such as these, in all of our lives. None of us are exempt.
When everyone is making money on watches, every watch keeps going up and every one is now a watch dealer, isn't it time to get the heck out? LOL I think so.
Almost every market is on fire right now. This is not unique to watches. The stock market, housing market, NFTs, art, etc. Literally, every single market. I’m not gonna try to predict the future but once the Fed raises interest rates, let’s see what happens to these ‘collectible’ markets. There’s far too much ‘funny money’ in the system, a correction is in order.
In my opinion what happened is that in the past 5 years a huge amount of people started buying watches, but I’m not sure that in the next years the number will continue to grow that much. A Gmt 16710 could be bought for 5k in 2015 and now is 12k€. I seriously doubt that it is going to be 30k€ in the next 5 years.
Buy low sell high with watches means getting a new Rolex at the AD and flipping it while the flipping is good. The Chrono24 prices are inflated, and flipping without a buyer eager to get your watch that knows you (a.k.a. grey dealer) will greatly reduce your return.
I have another thought. We should not buy watch from grey martkets, if you do so, eventually you sponsor those flippers, bcos when you buy from grey markets meaning you buy from those flippers and so they will continue go back to their AD to get new watches, and consequently the AD will not have any leftover pieces for those sincerely waiting for a piece from the AD. And it's on and on. Hence, just be patient and sit back and there should have an opporrunity later to get from the AD. 😊
@@scottc6946 In the car market, we've already seen a sharp decline in prices for cars on a rolling basis: first '50s cars. Now we are seeing a softening of the market for '60s muscle cars. On the other hand, the market has strengthened for '90s supercars, which makes sense: Millennials that dreamt about those cars are now coming into money that makes buying them possible. We probably will see a similar trend with watches, but the cliff will be sharper. The generation that never wore watches will come of age and just...not care. Smartwatches are the new Quartz Crisis.
@@OuijTube although, it’s not just boomers. I’m Gen X and want a Rolex. What’s interesting too is my friends son who is a high school senior said his classmates wanted to wear Rolexes for their prom.
Hi guys Love your video, so cool attitude By the way, BB shirt, nice glaces, Rolex 36 mm, very cool. If you wear chino and sperry topsides, you are real ivy league boy. It’s always a cool attitude
I invest in Rolex watches as a hedge against inflation (📈). It's much better than hiding my money underneath my mattress. It's a bonus that I'm genuinely into them and love wearing them as well.
re: watches as investments, you guys are speaking about a very rare period of time. Economic stimulus from fed money printing has caused all assets to appreciate abnormally, look at prices of cars, boats, etc. Would we normally say those items are also good investments, because 'hey, look, they have gone up the last year!'?
So if a standard DJ is $10k, what is the future of stainless sports watches. My Submariner (16610) is currently way over valued. Sounds like it's going to get worse.
There is a saying in the world of financial trading " when the ducks quack feed them" when the buying frenzy is pushing the market up it may be time to offer some of your position.. but make those necks stretch !.....
I love these videos and would love to see something about vintage Grand Seiko or maybe something about Dutch watch manufacturers, we have a couple very high quality manufacturers!
A gallon of milk in Pennsylvania has gone from $4 to $5 in less a year. 20%.... demand and value is part of watch price increasing. But remember inflation because of all the money "printed in u.s." in last year may have some market changes also. Now and in future. Good and bad
Fully agree. The chance of being able to buy a Rolex at retail, at least here in the UK, is practically impossible - the number of hoops you have to jump through at the AD just to get on the fabled waiting list is obscene. Grey market prices or pre-owned models, sometimes two or three times higher than retail? Forget it. How anyone is expected to make money that way, god only knows. I'd rather buy more interesting pieces, usually vintage, that you just don't see on everyone else.
@@neilmartin7776 yeah , i just can't justify spending 7 to 11 grand on a Rolex , when i can get 2 or 3 really great high horology watches for the same amount.
@@neilmartin7776 the only Rolex i would ever consider buying nowadays would be a 36mm two tone datejust. The perfect and most classy Rolex imo. Even explorers 2's are going up in value like mad. 😂
@@HRM.H it's ridiculous, really. It's not even as if Rolex is haute horology - they're tool watches at heart that have been dressed in precious metals in recent years, and have had a mythos surrounding them that makes the herd swoon and believe that they're the best thing ever. From a technical standpoint, Omega are far superior, and cheaper and easier to get (at least for now, they're also going up). But if I can get a JLC, an IWC or a Girard Perregaux pre-owned for the same price as a retail Submariner, I'd rather get them. Much better watches, far more interesting.
I invested in a Rolex Explorer ref# 114270 in 2007 and glad I did. I still like to get a Submariner no date 1 day 40mm I prefer over 41. I love hearing about watches being as a tool watch. Now if someone gets a scratch they want to have it removed smfh
Why not talk about independents as investments? Is this because you don’t think they’re investment grade? Is this because there’s too much risk with independents? Or is it simply because you don’t have a passion for them ?
The moment I think of my watch hobby as a money making venture, it would ruin the whole hobby for me. This is good info for those people who want to be flippers, but flippers hurt the hobby for those who buy watches to wear and collect by hurting availability at ADs. They do this by getting hard to get watches at retail from the AD, selling them to grey markets for profit, who then sells them for even higher prices.
I may be crazy but I have just sold my Daytona and bought the JLC Master Control Chrono Calendar (based initially on your review). I prefer the beauty of the JLC over the investment of the Daytona 😱😁🥃
This is total bs. The number one rule of honest youTubers has always been a disclaimer that watches are not an investment, so you know there is something wrong when a channel starts hawking watches as an investment. I live in a city that is a major hub for the international jewelry trade and there is such a glut of Rolexes, even Daytonas, that dealers are refusing to take in new pieces and flippers are losing money. This is now more "Boiler Room" than "Wall Street". For even more proof, even Rolex itself is hyping its own scarcity. Shady.
Love you guys but a clearer contrarian indicator would be hard to find. Maybe people having Beanie Baby 401Ks in 1998 would be clearer. Sorry, perhaps an outdated reference given you guys didn’t have hair on your pencils yet by that year. Channel remains awesome though.
Rolex OP36 steel dial was £4100 in 2019.. A 2020 model on sale on watchfinder £6950.. what is this madness also check the pink dial versions on on there
@@andrewhartley10 Hell yeah dude. It was my first (and only) and I've worn it non-stop since I got it five years ago. You just bought yourself the most versatile vintage watch IMO. Weddings, formal events, beach trips, daily - it's just right and unobtrusive enough to complement any outfit. Stoked af for you.
If there's one thing i learned from this episode is that Christian loves his "Old beaten up things" not even done with the video and i have heard that like 4X already XD
Really your most interesting discussion to date. I agree with a lot of what you both said re: investment but with all due respect to your success (which is well deserved) your overall time horizon is way too short to have any real perspective. Most watch dealers have been around less than 10 years, which means they have known nothing but a general economic boom and generally good financial times. At some point, that will change, and when it does, everything will be pulled down with it.
Long term investment is the best now. I invested $3,500 in march and i top up my trade with $200 every week. Now, I'm having over $87,000 on my dashboard. Toping up your trade is really important
Maybe, people will just be buying other watches when an old, standard mass product Datejust hits $10k... making men's toys scarce in supply and unobtainable just annoys the f*** out of people, in the long run... just a thought...
Really enjoy the topics today!! Questions: Does collecting a vintage Rolex that has been polished before hurt its value or not so much when it comes to vintage watches (Rolexes)? Thanks!
I can’t wait for all these rich SOBs who just buy watches to make money to disappear and move on to the next cash grab. This isn’t the stock market, it’s a hobby. And nothing against you, Christian, because you care about them and keep some for yourself - it’s a business. Very different. But people who have a safe full of Rolexes and then will sell them as “like new” in five years having never worn them? GTFO…
Love the channel but this is a total sales pitch. If you’re that confident in an assets rising in price, you don’t unload them at 5% (which your markups are higher anyhow), you would hoard the assets to get a higher return. For new watch buyers, don’t listen. The datejust is already in a delusional price zone, don’t buy a $5,000 datejust. You will regret it.
Vintage watches are the most safe investment. Easy to predict models that will keep going up 10-30 % per year. Buying new watches way over retail is more risky.
There is a fantastic hidden investment value to watches most people don’t mention. If things get drastic (house is burning down, government blacklisting etc) I can grab just one thing - my most valuable watch - and bail. Start a new life, cover cost of living for months / years etc. Not too many items that allow that concentration of value in a few ounces.
Checked out some of the watches on the T&H site...you know, normally I love that I have large muscular arms and larger wrists because it basically means no watch can be too big. For example, I tried on the Breitling Navi 46mm last weekend in the boutique and it looked like a normal sized watch on my wrist. The bummer...I basically can't wear most vintage watches. I tried on the Explorer 36mm and it was obvious as soon as I put it on that it was undersized. Bummer because you really have some amazing pieces. Great video guys.
Yesterday I went to one of the very few Rolex AD down here in Warsaw Poland, I was interested into a Tudor P01 and an Air King, they had the P01 on display and didn't know what I was talking about, they tried to redirect me right away on a Pelagos, and told me that I had to be part of the AD club in order to be able to apply on the list for any Rolex...So basically I had to buy the Pelagos so to be able to be on the list for the Air King. This is not a way to deal with customers, this total lack of consideration and disrespectful contempt made me to give up definitely on any Rolex whim, it's despicable and untolerable.
I feel the same. You make a product, then sell it to me. You want me to qualify to give you my money? Screw you and the horse you rode in on. I no longer want your product, and I'm certainly no longer interested in your brand.
To be fair, I'd steer you away from a P01 as well. I love its goofiness, but good luck finding straps a decade or two from now. Rolex is hardcore when it comes to their parts. That's avoiding a future paperweight headache, pocket watch.
I really enjoy your channel. I got back into watch collecting during the pandemic and watching the two of you get so excited over old Datejusts just warms my heart. I didn’t think your generation liked DJs. I’m going to have to get one soon.
Classics will always remain classics. Various Rolex watches and Speedmasters will always hold/increase their value. Having a classy watch portrays something different then e.g. a smart watch. I am surprised that JLC Reverso and Cartier Louis stay a lot behind.
Are we getting an interview with Teddy baldassarre from either you or him? I'd like to watch that! (NPI) also, I think it was you guys, but there was a great comment about the Spring Drive second hand sweep, something like the ticking of seconds are the moments but the Spring Drive is the moment between the moments? Can anyone point me to that?
Horrible. Watches are not good investments. Even in the best case, broad stock market investment of the funds you would invest in watches will have superior returns. You can't diversify watches very well, either.
That speedy looks terrible on your wrist. Too big and too much gold on your wrist. Not making any favor to Omega by showing that picture. Any vintage seamaster suits you better, and yoy know it. Speedy? Then the reduced is your thing. You are welcome! :)))))))))
Hello everyone! There seems to be some SPAM because we mentioned investing. Just ignore it pls. We don’t want to talk on WhatsApp. Even if it’s “our” account!
Your loss I’ve got great WhatsApp chat 😂🤣
@@iangibson6871 okay fine we will talk to Ian
How does one safely store an investment watch? In a watchwinder? ⌚
What? You mean that amazing thread where people are definitely talking like humans do?
Guys, I feel sick watching this video.
You "invest in crypto" lmfao. Wtf does that even mean?
98% of all cryptos are scams.
And you have "hedge funds recommending to buy watches", do you know how many hedge funs lose money end of day?
Plenty.
Funny how you try to portray yourselves as financial gurus - only bec the watch market took off.
*I'm glad I came across this video, I ask politely ,does anyone know how I can go about growing $50k dollars I have? I am very open to all suggestions and recommendations. God bless*
I will suggest you get a RIA who would help build investment plans and channel your money on something Lucrative ,which in a short term , would bring in better returns. Its just a personal opinion tho.
@@angelolucas70 Thank you for your suggestion. Do you have anyone in mind? I'm opened to any recommendation.
@@marchettibianca1367 I was able to invest,and build a portfolio through the help I got from Rodney Hamilton Steve a *RIA* , who did not only advised me well , but also managed my portfolio to prevent any loss. I’m sure there are a lot of RIAs out there , but I'm glad I chose to work with *Rodney Hamilton Steve* . Today , I own a *Portfolio* worth *$500k* which is clear evidence of *Rodney Hamilton Steve* great work.
@@angelolucas70 That’s so awesome!! How can I connect with such an experience Investment adviser as I’m willing to work with him. I really hope you don’t mind and that it’s okay with you to share his information here with me?
@@marchettibianca1367 You can look him up on the *INTERNET* where you can get necessary info about him as well as reach out to him. Do the check using his full name; *RODNEY HAMILTON STEVE*
Theo is getting cockier by the episode. Harris is still his humble self. No idea where And is. I miss her though.
Is Theo the one on the right? Christian?
Trolling or an idiot?
I think you mean, Christian? He's young, seems to have worked hard, and has experienced a degree of success. If there is some cockiness, then that will surely be dealt with through living life. Life (adversity) has its ways of exposing weaknesses such as these, in all of our lives. None of us are exempt.
@@YippeeKiYayMrFalcon Yeah man. Theo.
@@ams914 They say those who can't understand sarcasm, lack intelligence. Go back to school, kid!
When everyone is making money on watches, every watch keeps going up and every one is now a watch dealer, isn't it time to get the heck out? LOL I think so.
Be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful - Warren Buffet
Almost every market is on fire right now. This is not unique to watches. The stock market, housing market, NFTs, art, etc. Literally, every single market. I’m not gonna try to predict the future but once the Fed raises interest rates, let’s see what happens to these ‘collectible’ markets. There’s far too much ‘funny money’ in the system, a correction is in order.
16:00 I never take my Air King off, wear it constantly regardless of whatever I'm doing.
This duo is quickly becoming my favorite on RUclips! Good stuff gentlemen!
A wise (and very rich) man once said, "Be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful".
This is borderline watching a sitcom at this stage, the two lads having a deadly craic the whole time 🤣
Theo and Harris are the best
How many times did the dude on the left say "yup yea right"
You guys have not been through watches 20 years back. Prices dropped significantly even on hot pieces. This is a bubble. Look into value not the hype.
Christian - I’ve seen all of your videos and that Datejust you are wearing looks cooler and more natural than anything you’ve ever had on.
👍
On my Navy base just enjoying some good watch RUclips , love the channel keep it up
In my opinion what happened is that in the past 5 years a huge amount of people started buying watches, but I’m not sure that in the next years the number will continue to grow that much. A Gmt 16710 could be bought for 5k in 2015 and now is 12k€. I seriously doubt that it is going to be 30k€ in the next 5 years.
Buy low sell high with watches means getting a new Rolex at the AD and flipping it while the flipping is good. The Chrono24 prices are inflated, and flipping without a buyer eager to get your watch that knows you (a.k.a. grey dealer) will greatly reduce your return.
How do you purchase from an AD. Everything is out 18 to 24 month wait.
@@michaelriera6277 what does AD mean?
Authorized Dealer
I have another thought. We should not buy watch from grey martkets, if you do so, eventually you sponsor those flippers, bcos when you buy from grey markets meaning you buy from those flippers and so they will continue go back to their AD to get new watches, and consequently the AD will not have any leftover pieces for those sincerely waiting for a piece from the AD. And it's on and on. Hence, just be patient and sit back and there should have an opporrunity later to get from the AD. 😊
Another awesome episode, but I really feel like I got shortchanged by not hearing how y’all toast your marshmallows 😆
The watch market is like the classic car market. Once the boomers start dying, prices will soften.
That will take a while because there’s a about 100 million of them
@@scottc6946 In the car market, we've already seen a sharp decline in prices for cars on a rolling basis: first '50s cars. Now we are seeing a softening of the market for '60s muscle cars.
On the other hand, the market has strengthened for '90s supercars, which makes sense: Millennials that dreamt about those cars are now coming into money that makes buying them possible.
We probably will see a similar trend with watches, but the cliff will be sharper. The generation that never wore watches will come of age and just...not care. Smartwatches are the new Quartz Crisis.
@@OuijTube although, it’s not just boomers. I’m Gen X and want a Rolex. What’s interesting too is my friends son who is a high school senior said his classmates wanted to wear Rolexes for their prom.
@@OuijTube Apple watch is creating a whole new generation of watch wearers. Watches aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
These Christian and Michael videos are the best stuff coming out of the RUclips watch world, keep it up!
Agreed
Hi guys
Love your video, so cool attitude
By the way, BB shirt, nice glaces, Rolex 36 mm, very cool.
If you wear chino and sperry topsides, you are real ivy league boy.
It’s always a cool attitude
Truth. Vintage OP's today are trading at where Datejusts were trading just 2 years ago. It's insane.
Is the gold speedmaster as unreasonably sharp as the steel version?
Are breitling watches a good alternative to Omega?
Imop there just as good 👍 and I have both Omega and Breitling
A very good alternative. Compare the 42 Breitling SuperOcean with the Omega SeaMaster
Breitling watches are wonderful. Rock solid, tough, available, and really interesting these days.
@@MisterKnightly what is the avenger like?
@@MisterKnightly have the Super ocean 44 definitely built like a tank
I invest in Rolex watches as a hedge against inflation (📈). It's much better than hiding my money underneath my mattress. It's a bonus that I'm genuinely into them and love wearing them as well.
If you’re educated and understand economics and inflation then this is absolutely true.
How do you purchase a Rolex?
re: watches as investments, you guys are speaking about a very rare period of time. Economic stimulus from fed money printing has caused all assets to appreciate abnormally, look at prices of cars, boats, etc. Would we normally say those items are also good investments, because 'hey, look, they have gone up the last year!'?
Forget cars and boats....even sheets of plywood! LOL
@@tendrams lol yes exactly
So if a standard DJ is $10k, what is the future of stainless sports watches. My Submariner (16610) is currently way over valued. Sounds like it's going to get worse.
There is a saying in the world of financial trading " when the ducks quack feed them" when the buying frenzy is pushing the market up it may be time to offer some of your position.. but make those necks stretch !.....
I love these videos and would love to see something about vintage Grand Seiko or maybe something about Dutch watch manufacturers, we have a couple very high quality manufacturers!
Zeker weten!
still come back and check out Christian. absolutely enjoyed it. but where is Anna? again...
Great. Chat gents, per usual 🍻🍻
who is the top and who is the bottom?
You.
Spy Kids... Wow that's a deep reference
Dr. Rolex, any chance of a green OP36 at retail please?😋
@@fullymechanical9055 yeah I'll talk to the boys upstairs
Interesting insight on being observant on watches. What do you guys think about the Rolex 1630 and 1530?
A gallon of milk in Pennsylvania has gone from $4 to $5 in less a year. 20%....
demand and value is part of watch price increasing. But remember inflation because of all the money "printed in u.s." in last year may have some market changes also. Now and in future. Good and bad
25% price increase actually
No edit to keep it real. In hindsight i see the flaw in my price increase description. Catholic school elementary math skills... 😁
T&H is clearly in the $10M+ valuation zone now.
Watched for 1 minute and switched off, far too self indulgent
A watch is a luxury item. It is NOT an investment.
Rolex is a nope for me. I'll rather buy neo vintage watches that have lost most of their value already and can possibly only gain in value.
Fully agree. The chance of being able to buy a Rolex at retail, at least here in the UK, is practically impossible - the number of hoops you have to jump through at the AD just to get on the fabled waiting list is obscene. Grey market prices or pre-owned models, sometimes two or three times higher than retail? Forget it. How anyone is expected to make money that way, god only knows. I'd rather buy more interesting pieces, usually vintage, that you just don't see on everyone else.
@@neilmartin7776 yeah , i just can't justify spending 7 to 11 grand on a Rolex , when i can get 2 or 3 really great high horology watches for the same amount.
@@neilmartin7776 the only Rolex i would ever consider buying nowadays would be a 36mm two tone datejust. The perfect and most classy Rolex imo. Even explorers 2's are going up in value like mad. 😂
@@HRM.H it's ridiculous, really. It's not even as if Rolex is haute horology - they're tool watches at heart that have been dressed in precious metals in recent years, and have had a mythos surrounding them that makes the herd swoon and believe that they're the best thing ever. From a technical standpoint, Omega are far superior, and cheaper and easier to get (at least for now, they're also going up). But if I can get a JLC, an IWC or a Girard Perregaux pre-owned for the same price as a retail Submariner, I'd rather get them. Much better watches, far more interesting.
Can you please share your thoughts on the bvlgari octofinisimo?
this IWC blue have inhouse movement or ETA?
Talking out of their ar.. Even after college don`t understand percentage increase from 2000 to 5000...is NOT 250%!
I do the same with Omega from 1929 thru 1964.
I wish RUclips would allow me to give this two likes.
I invested in a Rolex Explorer ref# 114270 in 2007 and glad I did. I still like to get a Submariner no date 1 day 40mm I prefer over 41. I love hearing about watches being as a tool watch. Now if someone gets a scratch they want to have it removed smfh
that "NBD" comment really flew over Christian's head
I just absolutely LOVE watching you guys! I just need longer videos😉⌚🙏😎✌
Why not talk about independents as investments? Is this because you don’t think they’re investment grade? Is this because there’s too much risk with independents? Or is it simply because you don’t have a passion for them ?
The moment I think of my watch hobby as a money making venture, it would ruin the whole hobby for me. This is good info for those people who want to be flippers, but flippers hurt the hobby for those who buy watches to wear and collect by hurting availability at ADs. They do this by getting hard to get watches at retail from the AD, selling them to grey markets for profit, who then sells them for even higher prices.
Blue horseshoe loves Anacott Steel.
And the grey dealers are Gordon Gecko.
Couple of gebronis talking watches, love it.
Vintage Rolex especially nos steel sports are a great investment
These two are playing up the price hype for profit. Not really truly a watch enthusiast like Jack and Bark
I may be crazy but I have just sold my Daytona and bought the JLC Master Control Chrono Calendar (based initially on your review). I prefer the beauty of the JLC over the investment of the Daytona 😱😁🥃
Volks... everything comes down some day! EVERYTHING!!!!! Watches too! 😄
This is total bs. The number one rule of honest youTubers has always been a disclaimer that watches are not an investment, so you know there is something wrong when a channel starts hawking watches as an investment. I live in a city that is a major hub for the international jewelry trade and there is such a glut of Rolexes, even Daytonas, that dealers are refusing to take in new pieces and flippers are losing money. This is now more "Boiler Room" than "Wall Street". For even more proof, even Rolex itself is hyping its own scarcity. Shady.
Love you guys but a clearer contrarian indicator would be hard to find. Maybe people having Beanie Baby 401Ks in 1998 would be clearer. Sorry, perhaps an outdated reference given you guys didn’t have hair on your pencils yet by that year.
Channel remains awesome though.
Rolex OP36 steel dial was £4100 in 2019.. A 2020 model on sale on watchfinder £6950.. what is this madness also check the pink dial versions on on there
Going to sell my last Rolexes, 1016 & 16800. I'm done with their shitshow. They make nice watches, but not worth the grey market hype that's going on!
10k for both.
@@07cars deal
Is Anna still apart of the channel?
Luis CK is hilarious
*edit - wait….. 24 and thought you had covid?? Wow I thought you were older then that
Sorry. But I buy luxury watches to wear, not investments.
I'm a simple man, I just want a job at T&H
Damn it if I ever make my way to New York I’d like to buy you guys a drink. Seems like it would be an awesome time
This market isn’t “healthy” it is just stupid. I won’t but another one until prices drop drastically. I can wait
I’ve been eyeing that wideboy for weeks and just pulled the trigger. Watchfam!
May you wear it well. Fellow fam boy...
I have a 1972 ref. 1601 Wide Boy and I love it dude. Enjoy!
@@fullymechanical9055 thanks!
@@lukehendrickson3669 I’m stoked! First Rolex in the collection and had to go vintage
@@andrewhartley10 Hell yeah dude. It was my first (and only) and I've worn it non-stop since I got it five years ago. You just bought yourself the most versatile vintage watch IMO. Weddings, formal events, beach trips, daily - it's just right and unobtrusive enough to complement any outfit. Stoked af for you.
If there's one thing i learned from this episode is that Christian loves his "Old beaten up things" not even done with the video and i have heard that like 4X already XD
Really your most interesting discussion to date. I agree with a lot of what you both said re: investment but with all due respect to your success (which is well deserved) your overall time horizon is way too short to have any real perspective. Most watch dealers have been around less than 10 years, which means they have known nothing but a general economic boom and generally good financial times. At some point, that will change, and when it does, everything will be pulled down with it.
Yes. The lack of horizon always baffles me.
What about the bamboo bezel?
Investing in Rolex (or vintage) will always be tempered by what I've heard about the Rolex bubbleback craze of the 90s.
I bought an explorer 1 new, and have worn it every day since.
Where’s Anna?
Basement closet.
*After* *having* *some* *doubts* *and* *anxiety,* *I* *feel* *so* *ecstatic* *now* *on* *my* *first* *profit* *withdrawal* *of* *$16,200* *from* *my* *$3,400* *investment.*
OMG!!! *$16k?* how's that possible. What's your strategy
@@pushkarrajthakurbusinessco2598 I trade with a professional broker *Mr.* *Charles* *hoskinson* he brings me massive returns.
@@pushkarrajthakurbusinessco2598 I do trade with Mr. Charles too, haven't heard of him?
He is the best to trade with.
I guess you guys are new clients of Mr Charles. I've been trading since 2017
Long term investment is the best now. I invested $3,500 in march and i top up my trade with $200 every week.
Now, I'm having over $87,000 on my dashboard. Toping up your trade is really important
Short Rolex long Omega.
Maybe, people will just be buying other watches when an old, standard mass product Datejust hits $10k... making men's toys scarce in supply and unobtainable just annoys the f*** out of people, in the long run... just a thought...
no one's buying the mouldy dial lol. The other three are beautiful though
No Ana...no watch
Really enjoy the topics today!! Questions: Does collecting a vintage Rolex that has been polished before hurt its value or not so much when it comes to vintage watches (Rolexes)? Thanks!
I can’t wait for all these rich SOBs who just buy watches to make money to disappear and move on to the next cash grab. This isn’t the stock market, it’s a hobby. And nothing against you, Christian, because you care about them and keep some for yourself - it’s a business. Very different. But people who have a safe full of Rolexes and then will sell them as “like new” in five years having never worn them? GTFO…
Great video guys.
Just found your channel and love it 👍
Your combination of humor and in-depth understanding of horology is top notch!!!
Love the channel but this is a total sales pitch. If you’re that confident in an assets rising in price, you don’t unload them at 5% (which your markups are higher anyhow), you would hoard the assets to get a higher return. For new watch buyers, don’t listen. The datejust is already in a delusional price zone, don’t buy a $5,000 datejust. You will regret it.
Vintage watches are the most safe investment. Easy to predict models that will keep going up 10-30 % per year. Buying new watches way over retail is more risky.
The watch G.O.AT appreciate your video's 👍
Christian showing off his bird chest for the ladies again.
There is a fantastic hidden investment value to watches most people don’t mention. If things get drastic (house is burning down, government blacklisting etc) I can grab just one thing - my most valuable watch - and bail. Start a new life, cover cost of living for months / years etc. Not too many items that allow that concentration of value in a few ounces.
BOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! …. watch fan.
Watch fam, not fan
Checked out some of the watches on the T&H site...you know, normally I love that I have large muscular arms and larger wrists because it basically means no watch can be too big. For example, I tried on the Breitling Navi 46mm last weekend in the boutique and it looked like a normal sized watch on my wrist. The bummer...I basically can't wear most vintage watches. I tried on the Explorer 36mm and it was obvious as soon as I put it on that it was undersized. Bummer because you really have some amazing pieces. Great video guys.
16:48 ......IIIIII
Another great video and topics guys! 👏
400 percent increase? I rather doubt it ;-)
Getting Closer……..
The fourth spy kids was a dumpster fire
Yesterday I went to one of the very few Rolex AD down here in Warsaw Poland, I was interested into a Tudor P01 and an Air King, they had the P01 on display and didn't know what I was talking about, they tried to redirect me right away on a Pelagos, and told me that I had to be part of the AD club in order to be able to apply on the list for any Rolex...So basically I had to buy the Pelagos so to be able to be on the list for the Air King.
This is not a way to deal with customers, this total lack of consideration and disrespectful contempt made me to give up definitely on any Rolex whim, it's despicable and untolerable.
I feel the same. You make a product, then sell it to me. You want me to qualify to give you my money? Screw you and the horse you rode in on. I no longer want your product, and I'm certainly no longer interested in your brand.
@@IanMacLeansnv exactly this
To be fair, I'd steer you away from a P01 as well.
I love its goofiness, but good luck finding straps a decade or two from now. Rolex is hardcore when it comes to their parts. That's avoiding a future paperweight headache, pocket watch.
I really enjoy your channel. I got back into watch collecting during the pandemic and watching the two of you get so excited over old Datejusts just warms my heart. I didn’t think your generation liked DJs. I’m going to have to get one soon.
Classics will always remain classics. Various Rolex watches and Speedmasters will always hold/increase their value. Having a classy watch portrays something different then e.g. a smart watch.
I am surprised that JLC Reverso and Cartier Louis stay a lot behind.
Are we getting an interview with Teddy baldassarre from either you or him? I'd like to watch that! (NPI) also, I think it was you guys, but there was a great comment about the Spring Drive second hand sweep, something like the ticking of seconds are the moments but the Spring Drive is the moment between the moments? Can anyone point me to that?
Horrible. Watches are not good investments. Even in the best case, broad stock market investment of the funds you would invest in watches will have superior returns. You can't diversify watches very well, either.
Oh god... "Bartelona"....yeah... as a spaniard i humbly request... dont...
That speedy looks terrible on your wrist. Too big and too much gold on your wrist. Not making any favor to Omega by showing that picture. Any vintage seamaster suits you better, and yoy know it. Speedy? Then the reduced is your thing. You are welcome! :)))))))))