@@l-HEAVY-SNIPER-l i have juked enough slinger shots to know it’s totally possible to outplay a slinger. And even if it didn’t have counterplay slinger still has no map pressure and doesn’t perform well enough to be an adequate challenge for stronger teams. The same goes for wraith his 1v1 is shit and they are making it more shit. If slingers gun was so problematic they could’ve given him something else to compensate for what they are taking away but no they wouldn’t even address that before jumping straight into the nerfs.
@@l-HEAVY-SNIPER-l U aren't rude. The way you read is by playing the killer, that way you understand and know him better, in what areas and holes he can shot on and at what moments he needs to shot (corners, etc).
@@spencerbowden2979 Exactly. And now, for example, slinger never had a huge range, but it was compensated with his small terror radius, but now is going to be painful going against good survivors and pre runners survivors
Deathslingers ADS nerf I think is fine but why in the ever living crap increase his terror radius from 24 to 32 meters that is what is stupid about his nerfs he is a 110% killer. Like common devs use your brains.
@@jamalstar4243 Because its "unfun" for survivors, while SWF can literally "see" you and call you out throughout the whole map - but smth that is unfun for killers is ignored
@@MagicNash89 As a wraith main I'm not even mad about the addon, I barely used it. I'm just pissed they had the nerve to touch his lunge. I get that new players hate him, but I've played against low mmr wraiths in the past and they were complete garbage at using him. Had no idea how to use his power efficiently.
The definition of op doesn’t mean that it’s good, it just means it’s too easy to use for what it does, pre nerf spirit was op because she could just stand at a pallet and get a hit from it, nurse and blight aren’t since they at least require some skill to use their powers effectively. Nurse and blight are just good, not overpowered
@@camdenmoore5069 Thats honestly a terrible way to balance, undefeatable bullshit isnt okay regardless of how long it takes to learn it. Sniper in TF2 and Akuma in Tekken are good examples, doesnt matter that you need to 'git gud' if it just deletes any and all possible counter play. You lost because of their pick, not because of anything *you* did. Sniper's instant 150 damage any time without anything but 'I clicked on your head good' in the the type of game tf2 is isnt okay, thats why the bot crisis can exist is because its just *too strong*, Akuma breaks every rule of Tekken with chip damage, demon flips, and touch of death bullshit so 'dur hur hes harder to play than Katarina so its okay' isnt 'balance', it just means less people get to exploit how broken it is. A perfect nurse just wins the game, not because of any choice you made, not because of any mind games, but because they picked nurse, doesnt matter how good you are-they *picked nurse* and won. I personally dont think Nurse is super broken in that way, but thats really besides the point-it doesnt matter how 'hard' something is to do if its broken, its broken, full stop.
@@camdenmoore5069 I never said nurse and blight were op but they are certainly way stronger than wraith (top 2 killers). Plus wraith is easy to play but there is one simple counter: dropping pallets early. Nurse and blight are much harder to counter and most players at high rank are insane at them so if anything they should have received nerfs and wraith should have either stayed where he was or had some small buffs.
@@punishedwhispers1218 you lost me at sniper from tf2. he is balanced, he needs skill and is supossed to be an opressive class due to the power he has and the fact that he stays far away. thats why there are spies scouts or other snipers to take care of it, thats why a sniper sightline is of course not where you want to be.
Lately I only see really tight SWF online, it's almost impossible to enjoy playing killer. Effectively nerfing killers is just a more explicit decision considering the present state of the game. I guess it's time to quit DBD and/or refuse to play killer.
0:08 to 0:26 not a bias survivor community its looked down upon to talk about things involving survivor needs you’ll be called a clown 🤡 if you try to rationally explain what needs fixing like a broken dead hard or killer toxicity and dirty plays and be met with a hate mob every time. You cant rationalize with someone thinking emotionally
They should just shut this game down once and for all it is already broken beyond repair and I honestly believe no amount of balancing could actually make it balanced at this point. I mean.. they can't wvwn fix the server issues let alone the hackers this game is done for man.
Nerfed Billy,Freddy, Spirt,Deathslinger now Wraith but don't worry guys they buff Trapper who noone really uses and some Pig addons.......yay I mean it IS good but that's not really much, I'm a survivor main so I don't have to worry too much but when I HAVE to play killer for challenges I hate it like so much, I'm waiting for when u can play killer against 4 bot survivors when the hell are they gonna add that
Looks like behavior needs to start thinking about not tanking there business with nft support. TBH I hope they tank and get the ever living shit sued out of them. You can kiss that pinhead DLC bye bye when clive barker gets done with them in December.
Good. Nerf that thing. you don’t have to win the loop with the killer. that was the same issue with death slinger. Make loops mindgame-able and nerf killers with anti loop.
You’ve had a rough year with a lot of the shit that was thrown at you, but honestly the amount of negativity coming from your videos is makes then unpleasant to watch. I agree that DBD is in a... pretty bad place at the moment, but being so intensely focused on how bad everything has made me go from wanting to watch your videos to avoiding them more often than not now. I know you can’t help but be you, I just wanted to throw my two cents into the sea of random comments.
Probably because Tru3 players from a competitive standpoint, not casual. It's easier to look at things from different angles when you're just in it to play. The new MMR system just hits him in a worse way now, because of his mindset.
Can you really blame him? There's nothing positive about the game atm with the constant nerfing and the MMR system is only making it worse with hackers at both high and low MMR on both sides (survivor and killer).
Trues ideas are great too, and the devs still could work on this game so much!! And he’s not being negative he’s being real but if you not a fan bye ✌️
HOW ABOUT THIS TRU3, AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY MATCH ALL 4 SURVIVORS START THE MATCH ON HOOK IN STRUGGLE PHASE. WOULD THAT MAKE KILLERS CRY LESS, FUCK SAKE 🙄
@@MrSkyfair Well good morning I'm glad you think you know me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Not that I owe you any explanation but I play both sides, I just notice more and more killers complaining recently.
I understand the balance of fun between killer and survivor, but I will still state that the toxic bodyblocking of wraith because of his insane move speed needed to be adjusted some. Threatening does not equal overbearing, which if you find any wraith main, you fill find that level of "not fun" play as a survivor. Don't build a game to pro-level comp teams. Build it to the Gold level MMR players with an available skill ceiling for the Red ranks to take advantage of. Rank reset to Ash for everyone is obnoxious every month. Extend it to every 3 months or so and the community might level out some. Having someone hit Red rank 1, then take 2 weeks off and rank reset happens, then they are Ash IV and shitting on noobies is not a rewarding cycle of achievement. It punishes people who play casually.
And this is the kind of crap the devs listen to and why they do dumb shit like nerfing something that was fine as is. All that casual survivors want is to have an easy game, survivors who have played the game for a long time want to have a challenge. And killers get nothing but repetitive kicks in the balls by the devs who listen mostly to the players with maybe 20+ hours in the game. A killer match is you trying to win usually, and a survivor match is playing cookie clicker, yes that is probably an over simplification but you get the point I hope. Giving the survivors more objectives is what the devs need to do. And Remove God palettes, no counter play as killer and no skill required from the survivors. Balance the maps as well. Then we can talk about nerfing killers. Kinda not happy with the upcoming patch if you can't tell.
@@trc_301 no one said a chase mechanic and literally playing the game as a hunter is toxic. The mechanics that the wraith has under the present disposal are easy to exploit and abuse. This is why I said adjustment instead of outright nerf. BHVR always oversteps the killer aspect.
@@malthael1312 most definitely agree with that aspect. The survivor game mechanic is archaic at this point. There needs to be a branching of survivor focus instead of just gen rushing or otherwise general SWF killer bullying. My comment was more to temper the outliers of some excessive killer class abilities and play styles. The main issue is that you can come across an incredibly oppressive killer out of nowhere just because they are good. They don't need to be punished for it, but the factors of that level of aggression need to be identified. Lack of survivor skill, killer perks, add-ons, raw skill... Etc. Not just nerfing killers into the ground. Adjustments, not completely breaking a killer mechanic.
"What about me in a 4v1 game?" This survivor entitlement is so fucking stupid. Your objective takes like 4 mins to accomplish followed by 15 to 20 droppable safe pallets every match. If as a survivor you cant make that shit work against wraith, thats just simply pathetic. 😂
Well good thing I no longer play DBD, The Wraith nerf was the last straw for me. I seriously don’t see why they keep making killer less enjoyable now.
yeah game is trash good call
First deathslinger now wraith what do devs have against middle tiers killers?
@@l-HEAVY-SNIPER-l It wasn't luck, it was based on the survivor reading the killer correctly.
@@l-HEAVY-SNIPER-l i have juked enough slinger shots to know it’s totally possible to outplay a slinger.
And even if it didn’t have counterplay slinger still has no map pressure and doesn’t perform well enough to be an adequate challenge for stronger teams.
The same goes for wraith his 1v1 is shit and they are making it more shit.
If slingers gun was so problematic they could’ve given him something else to compensate for what they are taking away but no they wouldn’t even address that before jumping straight into the nerfs.
@@l-HEAVY-SNIPER-l U aren't rude. The way you read is by playing the killer, that way you understand and know him better, in what areas and holes he can shot on and at what moments he needs to shot (corners, etc).
@@spencerbowden2979 Exactly. And now, for example, slinger never had a huge range, but it was compensated with his small terror radius, but now is going to be painful going against good survivors and pre runners survivors
Deathslingers ADS nerf I think is fine but why in the ever living crap increase his terror radius from 24 to 32 meters that is what is stupid about his nerfs he is a 110% killer. Like common devs use your brains.
How about they get rid of killers completely, will that make all survivors happy. Just call it "live by daylight" an all problems will be solved.
Lolll
Best nerf BHVR did was nerfing me out of this piece of shit game!
Seriously though. The devs have to have the most severe case of Autism to be able to make these kinds of choices.
Yay. Wraith is gonna get nerfed! Just another step to make playing killer unenjoyable. Might as well just play basement bubba boys.
What are they nerfing on him.
@@jamalstar4243 * Uncloaking speed boost duration reduced to 1 seconds (was 1.25 seconds) / * Add-on - All Seeing: Blood: Aura reveal range decreased to 8 meters (was 12 meters)
@@Horolahha why did they even nerf his all seeing add on? Other ppl have addons that reveal survivors from further than that does. Smh
@@jamalstar4243 Because its "unfun" for survivors, while SWF can literally "see" you and call you out throughout the whole map - but smth that is unfun for killers is ignored
@@MagicNash89 As a wraith main I'm not even mad about the addon, I barely used it. I'm just pissed they had the nerve to touch his lunge. I get that new players hate him, but I've played against low mmr wraiths in the past and they were complete garbage at using him. Had no idea how to use his power efficiently.
I like how they see wraith as a "wee bit op" yet there's blight and nurse in the game.
The definition of op doesn’t mean that it’s good, it just means it’s too easy to use for what it does, pre nerf spirit was op because she could just stand at a pallet and get a hit from it, nurse and blight aren’t since they at least require some skill to use their powers effectively. Nurse and blight are just good, not overpowered
@@camdenmoore5069 Thats honestly a terrible way to balance, undefeatable bullshit isnt okay regardless of how long it takes to learn it. Sniper in TF2 and Akuma in Tekken are good examples, doesnt matter that you need to 'git gud' if it just deletes any and all possible counter play. You lost because of their pick, not because of anything *you* did. Sniper's instant 150 damage any time without anything but 'I clicked on your head good' in the the type of game tf2 is isnt okay, thats why the bot crisis can exist is because its just *too strong*, Akuma breaks every rule of Tekken with chip damage, demon flips, and touch of death bullshit so 'dur hur hes harder to play than Katarina so its okay' isnt 'balance', it just means less people get to exploit how broken it is. A perfect nurse just wins the game, not because of any choice you made, not because of any mind games, but because they picked nurse, doesnt matter how good you are-they *picked nurse* and won. I personally dont think Nurse is super broken in that way, but thats really besides the point-it doesnt matter how 'hard' something is to do if its broken, its broken, full stop.
@@camdenmoore5069 I never said nurse and blight were op but they are certainly way stronger than wraith (top 2 killers). Plus wraith is easy to play but there is one simple counter: dropping pallets early. Nurse and blight are much harder to counter and most players at high rank are insane at them so if anything they should have received nerfs and wraith should have either stayed where he was or had some small buffs.
@@punishedwhispers1218 you lost me at sniper from tf2.
he is balanced, he needs skill and is supossed to be an opressive class due to the power he has and the fact that he stays far away. thats why there are spies scouts or other snipers to take care of it, thats why a sniper sightline is of course not where you want to be.
As much as I am annoyed by Wraith these nerfs are unnecessary. He gets bullied at every pallet. He's like B-tier already why make him weaker?
Bad survivors.
Just how smooth the hit before the pallet save was just beautiful every time I see you make a play like that my jaw drops like wow 😯
Is it today the update is coming out and if so what time will it release
Tomorrow as in October 19th or October 20th?
Where can we see the upcoming patch notes?
he might make a video tomorrow morning about it
Lately I only see really tight SWF online, it's almost impossible to enjoy playing killer. Effectively nerfing killers is just a more explicit decision considering the present state of the game. I guess it's time to quit DBD and/or refuse to play killer.
0:08 to 0:26 not a bias survivor community its looked down upon to talk about things involving survivor needs you’ll be called a clown 🤡 if you try to rationally explain what needs fixing like a broken dead hard or killer toxicity and dirty plays and be met with a hate mob every time. You cant rationalize with someone thinking emotionally
Thats cool ill be getting back on my twins. No one expects it and they support any playstyle for killers in general.
What’s the nerf?
i realized, u need 4 survivors and only 1 killer, thats why they nerfed killers...
So how will they nerf the wraith?
Nerfing his speed coming out of cloak so those nice barely hitting lunges will no longer hit
Like I said before, it won't be a killer mode anymore
They should just shut this game down once and for all it is already broken beyond repair and I honestly believe no amount of balancing could actually make it balanced at this point. I mean.. they can't wvwn fix the server issues let alone the hackers this game is done for man.
Nerfed Billy,Freddy, Spirt,Deathslinger now Wraith but don't worry guys they buff Trapper who noone really uses and some Pig addons.......yay I mean it IS good but that's not really much, I'm a survivor main so I don't have to worry too much but when I HAVE to play killer for challenges I hate it like so much, I'm waiting for when u can play killer against 4 bot survivors when the hell are they gonna add that
I see Trappers all the time.
@@opo3628 probably because you're low tier lol
@@Obama8mycatHQ. agreed I rarely see trappers, mostly Spirits Nurses Leatherface and Blight
@@opo3628 youre a low rank survivor baby
@@alexbeerune - I've got over a thousand hours in the game, actually.
How to kill a game 101
I think dwight was killing himself on hook bcoz maybe he saw bill walking 😂
You will all ways be in my main lest still wraith RIP my dear wraith😢🥺
Looks like behavior needs to start thinking about not tanking there business with nft support. TBH I hope they tank and get the ever living shit sued out of them. You can kiss that pinhead DLC bye bye when clive barker gets done with them in December.
If they going to touch my Bubba I'm done with dbd
It's like they slowly trying to kill the game...
No! Not my wriath!
I guess 2cnd
Good. Nerf that thing. you don’t have to win the loop with the killer. that was the same issue with death slinger. Make loops mindgame-able and nerf killers with anti loop.
You’ve had a rough year with a lot of the shit that was thrown at you, but honestly the amount of negativity coming from your videos is makes then unpleasant to watch. I agree that DBD is in a... pretty bad place at the moment, but being so intensely focused on how bad everything has made me go from wanting to watch your videos to avoiding them more often than not now. I know you can’t help but be you, I just wanted to throw my two cents into the sea of random comments.
Probably because Tru3 players from a competitive standpoint, not casual. It's easier to look at things from different angles when you're just in it to play. The new MMR system just hits him in a worse way now, because of his mindset.
Can you really blame him? There's nothing positive about the game atm with the constant nerfing and the MMR system is only making it worse with hackers at both high and low MMR on both sides (survivor and killer).
Trues ideas are great too, and the devs still could work on this game so much!! And he’s not being negative he’s being real but if you not a fan bye ✌️
Dead hard ruined the game.
@@relentlessviper2073 yeah no
HOW ABOUT THIS TRU3, AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY MATCH ALL 4 SURVIVORS START THE MATCH ON HOOK IN STRUGGLE PHASE. WOULD THAT MAKE KILLERS CRY LESS, FUCK SAKE 🙄
U good bro?
Found the survivor main
@@MrSkyfair Well good morning I'm glad you think you know me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Not that I owe you any explanation but I play both sides, I just notice more and more killers complaining recently.
@@curry109 yeah you are right. Its almost like... that killers have a lot more reasons to complain or something
@@MrSkyfair 🤷🤣🤣
first
Did you wanted a cookie for that?
I understand the balance of fun between killer and survivor, but I will still state that the toxic bodyblocking of wraith because of his insane move speed needed to be adjusted some. Threatening does not equal overbearing, which if you find any wraith main, you fill find that level of "not fun" play as a survivor. Don't build a game to pro-level comp teams. Build it to the Gold level MMR players with an available skill ceiling for the Red ranks to take advantage of. Rank reset to Ash for everyone is obnoxious every month. Extend it to every 3 months or so and the community might level out some. Having someone hit Red rank 1, then take 2 weeks off and rank reset happens, then they are Ash IV and shitting on noobies is not a rewarding cycle of achievement. It punishes people who play casually.
yeaaa bc trying to hit a survivor is toxic… lmfao without his movement speed to bodyblock he would be the worst killer in the game
And this is the kind of crap the devs listen to and why they do dumb shit like nerfing something that was fine as is. All that casual survivors want is to have an easy game, survivors who have played the game for a long time want to have a challenge. And killers get nothing but repetitive kicks in the balls by the devs who listen mostly to the players with maybe 20+ hours in the game. A killer match is you trying to win usually, and a survivor match is playing cookie clicker, yes that is probably an over simplification but you get the point I hope. Giving the survivors more objectives is what the devs need to do. And Remove God palettes, no counter play as killer and no skill required from the survivors. Balance the maps as well. Then we can talk about nerfing killers.
Kinda not happy with the upcoming patch if you can't tell.
@@trc_301 no one said a chase mechanic and literally playing the game as a hunter is toxic. The mechanics that the wraith has under the present disposal are easy to exploit and abuse. This is why I said adjustment instead of outright nerf. BHVR always oversteps the killer aspect.
@@malthael1312 most definitely agree with that aspect. The survivor game mechanic is archaic at this point. There needs to be a branching of survivor focus instead of just gen rushing or otherwise general SWF killer bullying. My comment was more to temper the outliers of some excessive killer class abilities and play styles. The main issue is that you can come across an incredibly oppressive killer out of nowhere just because they are good. They don't need to be punished for it, but the factors of that level of aggression need to be identified. Lack of survivor skill, killer perks, add-ons, raw skill... Etc. Not just nerfing killers into the ground. Adjustments, not completely breaking a killer mechanic.
"What about me in a 4v1 game?" This survivor entitlement is so fucking stupid. Your objective takes like 4 mins to accomplish followed by 15 to 20 droppable safe pallets every match. If as a survivor you cant make that shit work against wraith, thats just simply pathetic. 😂