Ah, understood! Those are frequently checked and tightened up due to the frequent vibrations from the trains using that crossing. No safety issues to report since this video was posted a year and a half ago. :)
1:29 bottom right: We used to put a coin on the rails to see how flat they are pressed when a train moves over them, but we haven't tried this with screws and nuts yet!
I mean true. But given that they did all of this without delaying any trains at a time where there wouldn't be any running... Who cares that the guys got paid for a full shift doing a once in 10-20 years job?
Yesterday, I wrote the following comment: "It would have been a nice attention to details if the original caption had mentioned the YEAR when the work was performed". Today, I see that my observation has been promptly acted upon, with the result that the likely oversight has been corrected. For this prompt action, I thank the MDOT. Ontario, Canada. 2020/11/25.
I guess you guys at MDOT saw that Japanese video where they repaired a bridge or something over the course of an evening, which was like 10 years ago or something. Nice to see you guys are catching up.
Hey Thunder! Thanks for the comment. However, comparing the funding, resources, labor laws, materials, and construction standards of a foreign country compared to a state isn't exactly apples to oranges. We'll continue to do the best we can with the resources available, as well as follow all federal lawsand guidelines in materials and construction standards, as well as awarding bids submitted by qualified private contractors following all federal and state laws. Thanks for following MDOT.
The problem with that kind of diamond is one line is restricted to 10 mph. There are quite a few on CSX from Chicago to Fostoria... CSX can go track speed (60) but the short lines can only go ten. In this Diamond you have 2 class ones and Amtrak... None of them are going to go 10 mph across the diamond.
Full Flange Bearing is when the flange of the wheel momentarily takes the load off the tread of the wheel so the wheel can pass the gap without thumping down on the next bit of rail after the gap. Makes for a smoother crossing. Also where high traffic lines and low traffic lines converge a FFB can be used....oh look it up - that's what I did and I'm just repeating it. Amazing engineering invloved in turnout frogs.
Why would they do that? Limit 1 to 10 mph? With CSX and NS trains that could be 2 1/2 miles long? Can you tell me off the top of your head how long that would take? I can 15 minutes. Amtrak or any other railroad doesn't want that because since it's double mainline you could have to wait for more then 1 train. The computer will see that the 1 line can't go across and give the same railroad a clear to go across. The only good places for them are on low traffic lines. Clear this isn't because it's double track.
When Wayne Diamond popped up in my suggestion list the first thing that popped into my mind was Bruce Wayne and that Wayne Diamond. Please tell me I am not the only one to think that.
I worked on one in 1987 and was rather proud of it and my contribution to it's replacement. But, the at grade crossing has since been removed for the grand grade separation plan the state gov had that removed such examples... sigh.
lust make non colision crossing like in every european country you just need to stop the smaller track for a bit and build a sloped ramp on both sides, or insert premade frame and build a bridge over the other tracks making both lines independent and more safe
This person's reply from a week ago answers that, "SevenMagpies 1 week ago As they say ... "something has to give". Were the entire lattice constructed rigid, any break would then be strategically critical (ie. likely derailment etc.), so the loose connections really aren't doing any harm as long as they manage to keep the myriad bits of track, levellers and support more or less in place. It's called "engineering in the real world". Listen to a large jet engine idling in the wind net time you're at the airport. "
Which is the diamond rail? This is new to me. I'm a railway construction technician, I'm interested in such things. What is the name of the company that made the parts for this crossing?
How did they transport that huge diamond sub-assembly to the work site?! I've seen smaller pieces getting moved on flat cars, but never anything that big...
They probably do have signals, but given the long stopping distance of trains (especially freight trains), those would have to be placed so far back from the intersection that you wouldn't be able to see them in this video -- to find them, you would have to walk a long distance in each direction from the intersection.
This system is so antique that it is incredible to have a northen country having this. This a thing you don't even have in India anymore. Why in God's name did nobody started the construction of tunnel to allow free and fast passing of this ?
"Construction of tunnel" would probably cost hundreds of millions if not billions. There's many other projects tat could use tyre money first and they're not funded either
I highly doubt it; it's a junction of two very busy rail lines which are adjacent to a Ford Motor Co. plant, as well as a busy Detroit to Chicago Amtrak route.
I expect what is being referred to as closed is the old interlocking tower; the junction signalling is now remotely operated instead of having a manned position actually at the junction.
In my opinion, this is the most absurd engineering solution. Crossing different traffic flows at different levels will increase traffic safety a hundredfold, as well as provide safe maintenance. The profile and terrain allow: one direction to be deepened by several meters, the other to be raised through a bridge structure ...
If you simply placed the entire diamond on a thick concrete pad, instead of on crushed rock ballast, the diamond itself would last 4 times as long. The only problems would be the rails approaching the concrete pad; they would have problems with flexing, just like the rails flex when they approach a typical road crossing.
It sounded like the workers was forced to make that speech while someone was holding a gun to their loved ones heads behind the camera
At 1:06 you can see the reflection of the prompter off his glasses.
Their probably not used to talking while being filmed.
Lol thought the same. Or he’s AI
16 hours was very impressive with that amount of workers. Good job
I work for a company that made parts for that crossing. Cool to see in action.
RogerMurdock .....what is the name of the company
What amazes me is how precise the new turnout installed is. All Diamond rails aligned “perfect” to the older rails.
"Well maintained" apparently doesn't include keeping nuts done up tight.
Not sure what you're referring to, Sylvia.
@@MichiganDOT At 0:22 as the train goes over, nuts and bolts can be see vibrating and rotating.
MichiganDOT look at 0:46 many of the bolts are visibly very loose
@@MichiganDOT The bolts at 0:44
Ah, understood! Those are frequently checked and tightened up due to the frequent vibrations from the trains using that crossing. No safety issues to report since this video was posted a year and a half ago. :)
Who says Americans can't build things? Prefabricating the entire set of diamonds was brilliant. Well done!
Let's be honest, nobody actively searched for this.
Meemzeh lets be honest everyone watching this a Republican. 😉
LOL, I was watching 737 Max updates and got this lined up...
@Rexx Seven same here
Agreed but still pretty cool to watch.
I will now.
Спасибо, ютуб, за эти шикарные рекомендации. Как бы я без этого жил..
Who are you talking to?
1:29 bottom right:
We used to put a coin on the rails to see how flat they are pressed when a train moves over them, but we haven't tried this with screws and nuts yet!
Impressive film, don't think we have any thing like that here in the UK . Thanks for posting.
We do but only one that being the one in Newark with the ECML and the line from Nottingham to Lincoln crossing each other
It's really Amazing ... What an Outstanding process it is ... ☺
Hi folks. May I suggest this be played during the time lapse at .25x speed starting at 1:29.
It gives us a chance to see how much work is entitled
I mean true. But given that they did all of this without delaying any trains at a time where there wouldn't be any running... Who cares that the guys got paid for a full shift doing a once in 10-20 years job?
Great video. Thanks for posting this. Have a nice day.
Love the music! Great Time Lapse!!
Yesterday, I wrote the following comment: "It would have been a nice attention to details if the original caption had mentioned the YEAR when the work was performed".
Today, I see that my observation has been promptly acted upon, with the result that the likely oversight has been corrected.
For this prompt action, I thank the MDOT. Ontario, Canada. 2020/11/25.
Sure! That's been added. Thanks for watching!
@@MichiganDOT Thank you for your prompt action. 2020/11/25.
I understand the complexity and urgency of this project, I like to see this kind off "ass n elbows" work.
have you seen this: ruclips.net/video/btOE0rcKDC0/видео.html ? tunnel under a major highway in the Netherlands done in a single weekend.
I guess you guys at MDOT saw that Japanese video where they repaired a bridge or something over the course of an evening, which was like 10 years ago or something.
Nice to see you guys are catching up.
Hey Thunder! Thanks for the comment. However, comparing the funding, resources, labor laws, materials, and construction standards of a foreign country compared to a state isn't exactly apples to oranges. We'll continue to do the best we can with the resources available, as well as follow all federal lawsand guidelines in materials and construction standards, as well as awarding bids submitted by qualified private contractors following all federal and state laws.
Thanks for following MDOT.
We need these guys to come and work in the UK for Southern Rail!
My boy Will is literally reading from a cue card.
Too bad the Diamonds weren't Full Flange Bearing. That technology was approved for use after these Diamonds were installed
Can you explain that please?
Apparently full flange bearing crossings are speed limited to 10 mph, so clearly that's not an option.
The problem with that kind of diamond is one line is restricted to 10 mph. There are quite a few on CSX from Chicago to Fostoria...
CSX can go track speed (60) but the short lines can only go ten.
In this Diamond you have 2 class ones and Amtrak... None of them are going to go 10 mph across the diamond.
Full Flange Bearing is when the flange of the wheel momentarily takes the load off the tread of the wheel so the wheel can pass the gap without thumping down on the next bit of rail after the gap. Makes for a smoother crossing. Also where high traffic lines and low traffic lines converge a FFB can be used....oh look it up - that's what I did and I'm just repeating it. Amazing engineering invloved in turnout frogs.
Why would they do that? Limit 1 to 10 mph? With CSX and NS trains that could be 2 1/2 miles long? Can you tell me off the top of your head how long that would take? I can 15 minutes. Amtrak or any other railroad doesn't want that because since it's double mainline you could have to wait for more then 1 train. The computer will see that the 1 line can't go across and give the same railroad a clear to go across. The only good places for them are on low traffic lines. Clear this isn't because it's double track.
oke youtube thx for the gread vid in my recommended but i'm from Holland and the rail network is great her so no diamond crossing replacement for now
interesting to see something like this, in germany we don't have this type of crossings for rairoad except for trams, we always uses bridges
When Wayne Diamond popped up in my suggestion list the first thing that popped into my mind was Bruce Wayne and that Wayne Diamond. Please tell me I am not the only one to think that.
The real Wayne Diamond ...
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You ARE the only one to think of that !!
1:05 and I'm reading off a screen
"Safety is important" , literally shows the loose bolts swinging the breeze with a passenger train going over it.
You and I seem to be the only viewers to have spotted this!
Might be a good idea to tighten those loose bolts and nuts. I spotted at least two fishplates that weren't properly secured.
There's "flex" and then there's "loose" and them bolts was loose.
Did you know it’s possible to film a replacement diamond set of rails without beat music?
Well, that’s impressive, but 5 years ago in japan they turned a sub-surface station into a subway station in just 3 hours. Competition, guys.
Us doesn't like spending as much as Japan does
We have 2 or 3 in Melbourne where tram tracks cross railway lines, we call them tramway squares.
I worked on one in 1987 and was rather proud of it and my contribution to it's replacement.
But, the at grade crossing has since been removed for the grand grade separation plan the state gov had that removed such examples... sigh.
Great work ! Although of course it would be better just to build a bridge and not replace that metal every year.
Cool video and add favorite!
this seems quite complex, considering you are not getting the benefits of a traditional switch layout.
I have no idea what are those squares the first time I saw the thumbnail
lust make non colision crossing like in every european country
you just need to stop the smaller track for a bit and build a sloped ramp on both sides, or insert premade frame and build a bridge over the other tracks making both lines independent and more safe
There were alot of guys standing around talking in that time lapse!!
This is satisfying to see
I know where this is I live right by it
I grew up not too far from this in Westland. My dad used to work at Ford's Wayne Assembly (right where these tracks butt up against) back in the 60s.
Cool
Can't you guys just build an over pass?
They should just make a bridge and get rid of the diamond. Railroad intersections cause allot of backups
Wow, replaced the old tracks and still using the bolts?
*It could be replaced with a bridge for an uninterrupted service*
Did the algorithm think I'd like this because I've watched a bunch of videos about Uncut Gems?
Well done! :) Cool to see!
6 passenger and 12 freight trains per day . IS THAT IT !!! that ain’t many trains at all.
lot of movement in these rails, wit loose bolts (as pointed out by others). why are they not welded?
This person's reply from a week ago answers that, "SevenMagpies 1 week ago As they say ... "something has to give". Were the entire lattice constructed rigid, any break would then be strategically critical (ie. likely derailment etc.), so the loose connections really aren't doing any harm as long as they manage to keep the myriad bits of track, levellers and support more or less in place.
It's called "engineering in the real world". Listen to a large jet engine idling in the wind net time you're at the airport. "
why not invest in a bridge or a tunnel?
Was it the site of the former Wayne tower before it was dismantled ?
Great vedio.. brgds from mumbai india
No, I’m not going to scratchbuild one. In any scale.
2:39 Will that bump cause in adverse effects ?
Which is the diamond rail? This is new to me. I'm a railway construction technician, I'm interested in such things. What is the name of the company that made the parts for this crossing?
Developed countries have multi level crossings.
Wish close-ups of the old and new diamonds had been shown. Does new have replaceable partso the track need not be closed so long?
shows the sad state of affairs in the US that there is a 90 degree at grade rail crossing, instead of being separated
This reminds me of the Thomas & Friends episode, Wayward Winston.
To order the exact track spacing and intersection angle from the supplier, do they just shoot it with GPS? That's what I would do.
Time lapse? A "before and after photo" would have provided just as much context and content as this over-accelerated video.
Are there any sideway traffic signals in Michigan for trucks like in Texas
Hi Alec, doesn't look like we have many, if any, horizontal traffic signals in Michigan.
How did they transport that huge diamond sub-assembly to the work site?! I've seen smaller pieces getting moved on flat cars, but never anything that big...
Small parts moved to near by then assembled just off site
I had that same question. On the time lapse the assembled diamond just suddenly appears.
What place this
Very cool
Why not build an overpass instead and remove this diamond? Increase safety 1000%
Cost. Us infrastructure is ridiculously underfunded. Especially rail
Sorry I think the rail road should pay 100% for the project.
something really important missing: traffic light !!!
PooorMan-DIY I would love to live in america 😫
They probably do have signals, but given the long stopping distance of trains (especially freight trains), those would have to be placed so far back from the intersection that you wouldn't be able to see them in this video -- to find them, you would have to walk a long distance in each direction from the intersection.
Not even humorous !! There are signals miles before this in all directions.....
This system is so antique that it is incredible to have a northen country having this.
This a thing you don't even have in India anymore.
Why in God's name did nobody started the construction of tunnel to allow free and fast passing of this ?
"Construction of tunnel" would probably cost hundreds of millions if not billions. There's many other projects tat could use tyre money first and they're not funded either
Hmm... what country is the "famous diamond crossing of Nagpur" located??
I was curious to see where this was located, so I checked out Google Maps. It has labeled this junction as PERMANENTLY CLOSED. Is that true?
I highly doubt it; it's a junction of two very busy rail lines which are adjacent to a Ford Motor Co. plant, as well as a busy Detroit to Chicago Amtrak route.
I expect what is being referred to as closed is the old interlocking tower; the junction signalling is now remotely operated instead of having a manned position actually at the junction.
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better time to replace many new real cement tracks on the ground...
no no wood tracks...
must check, watch, fix it tight tracks
Why do a proper grade seperation - you know, a flyover??
16 hours, is that supposed to be impressive?
Hard-working crews!
In my opinion, this is the most absurd engineering solution. Crossing different traffic flows at different levels will increase traffic safety a hundredfold, as well as provide safe maintenance.
The profile and terrain allow: one direction to be deepened by several meters, the other to be raised through a bridge structure ...
It would have took Los Angeles metro 5 months to do that
Overseas, we got bridges here.
If you simply placed the entire diamond on a thick concrete pad, instead of on crushed rock ballast, the diamond itself would last 4 times as long. The only problems would be the rails approaching the concrete pad; they would have problems with flexing, just like the rails flex when they approach a typical road crossing.
Looks very bumpy.
1:03 he talk about shining diamond in here
What is the maximum speed at such a crossing?
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wow 22 trains daily through there !!!
Only 22?
I know that does not seem very much, we double that in an hour where I live.
HAHAHAH i'm european
freighttrainsahpassing
Here in NJ I live near the CSX/NS/NJT line west of Newark. At least 50-60 trains a day. Great photo ops!
What place thi
Hi Eleanor! Wayne Junction near Wayne, Michigan, south of US-12.
When you find out that there could be such a beautiful, yet stupid crossing. why not make a diamond plus a few long bends, unless that's already there
They should hve been removed and replaced by a bridge not just replaced.
Sounds like they read from cue cards.
Build a cloverleaf junction and get it over with already
Super
And I was just going to grab the duct tape...
Look how uneven it is 😅
Like a speed hump for trains 🤣
*Aw yeah, Michigan time*
wrong could have detour over ns detroit distract or csx detroit to chicago line or CN
it looks square to me
It's all dull and boring before the music goes off 1:42
nice
A major failure in the Murican railway structure. No alternative route. Think big but not wisely
6 passenger trains and 16 Cargo trains ist mit much.
Alot of standing around to do
im sorry but usa has a poor infrastructure when it comes to railways Japan or the Netherlands is an example
Just pour heavy concrete square
what I saw was a lot of standing around.
Compared to European or Japanese work it looks just like amateurs
why they reading a script lol
thats at least a 2 month job in the UK!
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