War of Rights Review - Off the scale immersion
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- A brilliant take on the Civil War
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Thanks for taking a look at our game, Mack! About half of our little team of developers are long-time subscribers of yours so naturally we're super stoked to see you enjoying what the alpha has to offer in its current state! :)
His vid made me buy your game happy to see on sale
Nice of you for not taking the modern day stance on this war...
Im picking up the game looks awesome!
Put the 23rd NY flag in the game!
Damn I can't imagine the sweat in your forehead when you saw "War of Rights" in the title LMAO well Im gonna buy the game because of this, and im sure at least some....10 more dudes at least will LOL!
that mechanic that punishes solo playstyles i think is a really good concept
I think so too. It's a game that really encourages formation\team play via mechanics. Sure, you can run off, but you're nowhere near as effective on your own, easily killed, and you cost your whole team much more morale than were you to die as part of a formation.
No f*ck that... I hate other people
@@The13thGhostBunny The game also has a suppression mechanic, which is heavily increased if out of formation. Getting shot at once or twice basically makes it impossible to shoot past 50 yards.
Yeah although I definitely think they should allow a small squad of players and an officer to be exempt from that but still have to stick kind of close to eachother, rather than in a tight line. Skirmishers existed in reality after all.
Well you could argue that skirmishing in this Game is still possible and viable, since you have a tactical Advantage If you Split Up a company. Ive Seen it Sometimes ingame, though Not recently, working out, but you need even more Teamplay and more than one good officer in acompany
This game is completely legit. The sense of chaos is just fantastic, my entire regiment walked into a brutal ambush the last time I played. The CO was all apologetic back at spawn and I’m like no dude, that was one of the most epic experiences I ever had. We were so close they surely heard us bullshitting and they all held fire until their glorious moment was inevitable. I could only slow clap as I lay there dead. Listening to my comrades dying and fighting in a bayonet charge from the woods we just took hell from. I have that moment saved and I will rewatch it and smile. You hear a few pops. Someone screams union behind, I turn to see a wall of flame and smoke ripping away about 50 yards maybe….I fired one shot in confusion and ran about five feet before I fell, it’s the shit that makes me happy to be a gamer.
5:55 in this video, same happened to us, we were about to flank the Union but they heard us coming and a group went into the woods and ambushed us as we received our orders. I heard the sound of bayonets killing people just to my left, looked around and all these Union boys come out of nowhere shooting and stabbing, we got destroyed.
@@WorthABuyreviews I love it!
I love quick game anecdotes like this! Really gives you an idea of the atmosphere of the game. 😊
@@christianzilla the atmosphere carry’s the experience for me. Quiet moments of marching. Punctuated by a shell from a distant cannon making a mess, or maybe you see a so called Rambo, the CO orders a few men to fire upon the loner and about 30 fire at once. And we watch the figure somehow run off unscathed while we have a good laugh. The best are the moments that you have survived a big engagement. Bodies strewn about as the smoke clears. a few stragglers being bayoneted and you just look around at the corpses of friend and foe, sometimes a leg here or an arm there. Some convincing pain and dying animations and groans and such from the corpses and it really can pull you in. Sure, someone is going to play lynyrd skynyrd on as you charge into some cornfield but this is as close as I’ll ever get to the experience sans re-enactments.
@@sealboy1211 sounds epic! 😊
Been playing this myself and absolutely love it, and that's coming from someone who usually hates multiplayer pvp games. The focus on immersion and teamwork is what really made me love it. No kill counts and specific player stats, no health bars or even really a hud; just you and your 30 second load musket standing in formation hearing musket balls whizz past your head, dropping allies, as you await your commander's order to fire. Game really shines when you get officers and NCOs who know what they're doing. Who'd have thought being a rank and file soldier in the American Civil War would be so much fun!
I legitimately think games like that should be in schools - imagine for one of your history classes you go to the computers lab and have a whole hour of playing this. Then when learning the lesson you'll have the context and a whole new level of understanding of why things happened the way they did.
VR is going to change education in ways I don’t think we can imagine right now. You’ll be able to go into any war in history.
One of my favorite parts is watching the after action map when the game ends. Interesting seeing where enemy and ally formations were moving/ fighting throughout the battle
That is really cool to watch yea, the Birds Eye view as opposed to the ants perspective you have during the match is a great touch. Watching the casualties pile up and cheering for my white dot will never get old.
It should be noted that unlike holdfast, war of rights allows you to spawn back with your unit if the flag is kept off the ground and picked up again if the flag bearer dies. This is magic and means most of your time you are with your regiment, not at the other end of the map facing a huge run to the battle.
The games been a labor of love for the developers for sure
Good old times with Napoleonic Wars, regiments shooting each other every weekend, it was hilarious, and well disciplined as well, because every regiment was under some leadership that had different ranks and rewards and such.
Holy hell they actually got the flags right.
War of Rights is definitely worth it even off sale, the devs set out to create a game in a very niche genre and they absolutely nailed it
One of my favorite buys of the last several years. The camaraderie you feel when you play with a well disciplined formation is unmatched in most other games I’ve played.
And yes, it’s fascinating to see that even if the players disagree with the commander’s orders they may groan but they’ll still carry them out. It really makes one feel like you’re a cog in a war machine, in a fun way.
This game is legit. We have 400 player test servers all the time and those get insane. Lines of infantry volleying each other while cannon balls turn the players to your left and right into pink mist.
Edit: This is also the only game that will provide updates where they move trees and rocks to be more historically accurate from pictures. lmao
Thanks Mack I’m so keen. Looking forward to this one. Always trust your opinion. Your integrity is impenetrable
thanks for bringing some attention to this game, its so much fun
6:53 "CAN OUR CAPT PLEASE FUCKING DO SOMETHING" hahahaha
Thanks for getting this review out Mack I know I have been bugging you loads lol, look forward to hopefully a live stream of it one day. You didn't touch on how beautiful the game looks I am asuming you have maxed it out (which is possible thanks to the new DLSS feature). Also while you are moving and reloading you can look around with left alt which helps :)
Yeah that left Alt key is priceless when you are moving in formation and you need to keep an eye on your flank, great idea.
The whole teamwork thing IS awesome, basically the opposite of your standard COD type FPS; but I feel like Mack didn't emphasize how non-intuitive this game can be. Like...go ahead and try to fire the artillery, see if you can guess where to even aim. The game needs a tutorial or something, because instead of hand-holding, it slaps your hand away and tells you to research how to play. It's a game where you really NEED to make friends who know what they are doing, or else you'll probably just feel lost.
Not having individual player stats is good also, all you need is a timer, a compass and a score count. I feel as though flash bearers should give the team bonus points (or something of the sort) as long as the flag is held, to give them an increased self of importance.
Also very nice Graphics, love how the smoke after firing fades off into the sky
Flag bearers are mobile spawn points for the infantry. They give a great bonus to resupplying your lines anywhere on the field, as long as there are enough players around. The different formation states has it so if you are "Out of Line" troops can't spawn on the flag.
I bought this a while back and Mack is 100% correct about everything in this review. I'm not kidding guys I'm not a fanboy I only play now and again on weekends when its busy but this review is dead on accurate about everything.
Wow the reload animation alone has my attention. The gun models are amazing. I love the idea of team play at a company level.
There really hasn't been a strategic US Civil War game from the first person perspective. Looks like what we hoped Battlefield games would be.
Civil War Buffs are an amazing community who take this stuff seriously, I would bet that most serious players also own a uniform and period specific gear and do reenactments in the summer too. Thats why they actually follow orders and stay in charachter in the game.
Even members of the american battlefield Trust like Garry Abelman play the game ❤
I have been playing War of Rights since 2019 and it just keeps getting better, it's so nice to see devs who are truly passionate about their work. WOR is a labor of love if there ever was one and your money is well spent on them.
This looks pretty fresh and interesting.
Looking forward to the Battle of Schrute Farms DLC.
This game looks amazing so far, I can’t wait to see what the full release looks like! Maybe there could be a redcoats vs revolutionaries mode aswell. I’d imagine you’d have to make your shots count with those muskets, you could even reload a crossbow faster than them! I’m surprised they are that accurate that far aswell, does it let you know if you’ve hit/killed anybody at all? They can be too far away to see with just the naked eye alone and no optics of course.
It's cool that Mack as a Brit would review this
why?
I love the Civil war, played Sid's Gettysburg for years.
@@jameswarner8038 cause It's a niche game that many RUclipsrs wouldn't touch. Also many Brits aren't interesting in this part of history (as a Brit I am as well).
@@Grandmastergav86 shoot, gimme this but war of the roses and I’m in from the USA!!!!
I used to stay up till 3 am just to join my regiment.
Join the 6th Alabama bois 😎
For some reason this reminded of that one game where you time travel to American civil war period armed with an assault rifle.
Darkest of Days was pretty fun, imo. Maybe that's just because I liked the idea of taking part in these big battles set in different time periods.
Thanks Mack, and well said. Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me.
Mack is such a GigaChad for playing an American civil war game and enjoying American history.
I think he just likes seeing americans shoot each other lol,
Bonus Chad points for playing as the good guys.
@@cympimpin20 +1 rebel yell
(Mid battle)
"Fear no danger, Shun no labor
Lift up rifle, pike, and saber
To arms! To arms! To arms, in Dixie!
Shoulder pressing close to shoulder
Let the odds make each heart bolder
To arms! To arms! To arms, in Dixie!
Advance the flag of Dixie! Hurrah! Hurrah!
For Dixie's land we take our stand, and live or die for Dixie
To arms! To arms! And conquer peace for Dixie!
To arms! To arms! And conquer peace for Dixie!"
"Kev we're playing union mate"
"Oh, ummm hang on then....
...Gimme gimme gimme a man after midnight...."
(Never laughed so hard in my life)
Looks bloody authentic which is great to see. Not sure if I'd want to play it in Australia with 300 ping though.
No online games are working playing down under lol, sucks that we are so far away from anyone
I play in an NA Community and we have a few Australians with us. They seem to get around alright when playing the game server wise.
No it’s all good ping does not effect it much
I backed this game on kickstarter but never jumped in because of early access, might give it a shot now although I've gotten away from pvp games in the last year or so, usually much more relaxing to play single player at my own pace. But thanks for putting this back on my radar.
Honestly this can be the perfect "chill" game believe it or not, yeah it's chaotic and crazy a lot of the time, but it's more a "community" game than competitive, there's no kill or death count so no pressure in that regard. I find the game has a great balance between action and down time.
This is like a generational issue of that it takes a game like this to get the sort of teamwork that was normal in games like Project Reality back in ~2008. Today's PR successors, such as Squad and Hell Let Loose, are just a mess, at best a squad staying together and no real teamwork or officers following orders. Funnily enough a game like this looks sutiable to play realistically - i.e run away lol, men must have been brainwashed into a dog to follow orders in that era of warfare. 'Cowards' were the smart ones.
Hey Mack, Thanks for giving WoR some attention. I played with a regiment once it was great! I hope cavalry is coming soon.
Thanks for the wonderful review, Mack.
Congrats on reach 300k Mack!!
2:20 oddly enough the Civil War was infamously bloody _because_ soldiers fought "in formation." One side would have a Gatling gun and the other side still lined up like it was the Mexican American War
and the people in WW1 never learnt their lesson about modern warfare from the civil war, and had to learn the hard way how fighting has evolved
Something to watch on the night shift! Hope all is well mate 👌🏻
Night shift crew stand up!
If I don't hear the southern players use the n word or say "boy" I'm refunding
You'll hear that plenty if you're on a public server at certain times and fight for the CSA. You can sometimes hear it so much that you can't hear your company officer issuing their orders. lol.
@@The13thGhostBunny So its historically accurate lol
I like that you're into indie games but not always the tycoon games like most reviewers. You really have your own mind like that.
I play anything that looks fun tbh, had a blast this week, got another belter coming tomorrow.
@@WorthABuyreviews Midnight Fight Express seems up your alley
sir, you get it, you understand and get this game. Thank you for covering this so that it can get the exposure it deserves!
The best American civil war game since North & South for the Atari ST.. anyone remember that game....just me? Yea I'm old
Almost got this a few weeks ago. Easy pick up at 50% off. Suiting up tonight
Problem with this cause no one wants to die, most engagements are unrealistic in the distances they are at, there's a reason line firing was used, and it wasn't to snipe across the battlefield
You still haven't tried Hell Let Loose! This feels like a clone of that. Hell Let Loose is SOOOO immersive, especially if you like WW2.😊
the movement is so floaty thought
And mud and blood
@Thawne WW2 or HLL?
Every time I've played Hell Let Loose, barely anyone is talking in the game. Totally different from War of Rights, which has tons of communication between players and is hilarious.
@@jeff8326 Yep. Post Scriptum is far better.
Great review, I totally agree. It's intensely immersive. I fell in love 5 minutes after joining my first match.
Love the reload anims. Hate it when games feature percussion or flintlock rifles but half-arse the reload animations
The default key for voice chat is "N" by the way
lol
I'm really into Hell Let Loose for the same immersive reasons you've mentioned. Now i decided to pick up War of Rights on Steam! Can't wait to play it and yes they should DEFINITELY add cavalry.
Horses will be added soon
@@Hinkel84 keep dreaming
Mac, have you ever covered Squad? Same spirit!
im still waiting for a shooter where players or AI screams or make some pain sound when getting shout more like irl
I'd looked at this around the time it first launched and I'd since forgotten about it. I'll be picking this up before the sale ends, thanks for the review.
I need a PC. I'm sick of waiting years for amazing games like War of Rights, Rising Front, and Valheim to either finally come to Xbox Series X after years, or to never happen. I want to be immersed in unique experiences. I truly thought Phil Spencer was on top of all the great games coming out in a console edition without having to deal with all the PC all over the place jank with drivers and exe files and all that crap, but he's not.
War of Rights is so up my alley. Rising Front! Omg. So awesome. I'm just so fed up with missing out on these amazing niche games that 75% of the time seem to get on pc first.
I fuc*ed up getting a series X. I should have got a pc. Dammit. 🤦♂️
You don't need a super pc to play games, even an average pc can play most games at mid to lower specs
It's 2023 and you're confused about clicking exe files and downloading games on Steam? Cmon man, join the PC side and get gaming.
Oh man great memories playing this game with you
That was Holdfast :)
Holy smokes, haven't seen the Klett for awhile. Too busy tending the garden I expect.
❤Eios
@@WorthABuyreviews yea my bad I played War of Rights with a different buddy, I conflated the two! APOLOGIES FATHER MACK. Holdfast was epic
@@Jacob-jx7ws life’s gotten busy - 3 kids getting older ya know
not to mention the chatter of the players is usually hilarious.
I remember I was recruited to a clan when I first had got the game and was screamed at for not knowing all the commands and key binds lol. Still a fun game to hop in every once in a while.
This will make you laugh. I joined a regiment that had drills every week. Afterwards, they would break it down be like "How could we improve this" and every single time I would say, "I'd like to have fun please, this was boring".
Some months down the line, another regiment member is telling me they are the strictest in the game. "Nobody else is like this?" I asked. He replied "Nope". I quit then and there and joined a group of disciplined nutcases called the 30th Ohio. It's been a blessing ever since.
I *LOVE* Mack's thumbnails with his BIg SMILE! 😂
Holy holy this looks fun
devs are real nice offered me a key to play I lost the link though haha so I bought it and on the steam deck well it loaded up but almost ended my console ran so hot... gonna need a bigger rig
I'm gonna have to go back and play it again. Glad I bought this. The people playing are pretty cool too
1 ticket for an in formation death, 2 for a skirmish death (since latest updates) and 5 for an out of line death. Also suppression and fatigue are greatly increased when not in formation
It is not really a game it is an experience.
Bro you nailed this game. Great review!
Props to Mack for being the most American European person I've ever seen ;)
Reminds me of the good old days of Mount and Blade: Napoleonic Wars.
Glad you enjoyed this ride away down South 🤠👌
3:06 that clip was fucking hilarious XD. FIIIAAR!!! Everyone was so into it XD
You’ve earned a sub my friend
This one completely went off my radar. Amazing!
Macs finally hit the 300k milestone. Well done m8
one of the biggest strongsuits of macks work is, and i can never not notice it, how he casually mentions stuff about the game he WABs and then without even pointing it out, it actually is proven and shown at the same time in the video, such subtlety! me thinks of that as great.
Sounds like Holdfast++. Sign me up!
this looks awesome, I feel like I've never seen a gamer moment this co-ordinated in my life 3:10! Might have to give it a go this weekend, cheers Mack!
Lol that kind of teamwork happens multiple times per game, with 30+ people in a regiment it's insane.
Gratz on 300
I've been playing this game for years. Such an insanely immersive and well done game. It's hard to get used to with all of the micromanagement from how to walk in various ways to knowing when to equip bayonets.
I shudder to think of the characters this game will attract, especially with a name like "War of Rights".
Civil war re-enactors and war game buffs?
I'm an Aussie and very tolerant and played a lot of PVP games and I have never seen a Rust player in WOR yet.
I'm obviously talking about "the south will rise again", "war of northern aggression" crowd that want to roleplay as the CSA. Although, I bet there is a ton of overlap with those you mentioned.
YES!!!! Thank you sir, for revisiting this spectacular game. It is my all-time favorite PC game and I really hope this video generates some interest for us. We need fresh meat for the grinder!
Nice to see the Hairy Bikers are doing games reviews
This looks like great fun
Almost 700 hours in. 100% worth it.
I play this game multiple times a week and really enjoy it. I bought a gaming laptop so when I travel for work I can still play it even.
Awesome review Mack of what looks like a contender for game of the year. Cheers.
Any plans to review Battlebit Remastered once it releases?
Oh my days! Mack played War of rights! (1st Lt Iron Duke 83rd PVI).
is it still worth a buy? i've seen conflicting reports on it being a dead game. also some say it is impossible to even get in game due to one server and no que system
Great if the history is accurate and it is educational as well as fun. Need a followup game on the original founding of the country, the why, the how, the battles, again with authenticity and the reasons for the constitution and bill of rights etc.
I’d love a game like this for the French-Indian War, American Revolutionary War or the War of 1812.
Hey..you finally broke 300k subs!! Well done (bell sound)!!
28 seconds to reload a single shot gun, no thanks I pass, time is precious to be wasted like that.
**20 seconds
Does it have commander mode like BCF? Where you command a company?
Was 23 quid when I tried to buy it but its in my wishlist now, thanks Mac
I love Holdfast (it's ridiculous fun) and bought this about 8 months ago on sale. I was disappointed with how low the player count seemed to be so I didn't bother with it. I'll bang it on this weekend, hope it's newbie friendly.
0:15 "FOLLOW THE AUTISM LINES"
10/10 immersion
Is it easy to play with a coop buddy, or are there no name tags so you couldn't find your friend easily?
The banter can be good too in the game. Just having a laugh.
Macks commentary always the best!
Sounds great. I'm very interested in historic rifle warfare. Would be nice to see horses and sabers in the future but I'll still buy it now.
Horses have been in development for some time and will be added to the game, pretty soon if the devs are being truthful.
Can you only get muskets? They had repeaters and stuff like that by the time of the Civil War
well done on 300k man
Thanks Mack, been waiting to pick this up for awhile. Nice sale right now
7:16 _Duke Nukem joins the chat._ 🤭