More of my re watch/review. It's still a great video. As an audiophile and former stereo salesman I used to say " Listen to how accurately this system reproduces that distortion " Thanks for this.
Thanks for this, and I'm looking forward to the next video. I tried getting the guy who fixes my amps and pedals to explain the difference between gain and volume and got the unsatisfying answer that "they're the same thing". If they were the same, the distinction between overdrive pedals and clean boost pedals wouldn't make sense. I still don't entirely get it, but I knew I wasn't getting the whole story from him; hopefully you'll help me make full sense of it in the next video. Your previous videos have been extremely educational, as well. Please, keep up the awesome work!
These early videos are great. And I'm sure they're probably the most viewed because some of us learn through Visual demonstrations. Which is why I continue to ask for more videos like this where you use the Whiteboard to illustrate the issues. Thanks
Overdriven, forgot that term :). New subscriber. Player of 30+ years & collector of all things guitar. I understand this concept, but I must tell you that you have a very clear, simple way of explaining relatively complex systems. I went back through your older vids to brush up on concepts I felt I didn't have a good grasp of. I came away from each video with a better understanding of each system being covered. Not once did I have to "rewind" because I didn't understand or because you weren't clear. Good stuff. Glad I found the channel.
Great I had never thought of doing the cranking the master and using the gain. Usually did the opposite and crank the gain to about 70% then dialled back if it sounded distorted.
Stumbled upon this, and actually, I watched your first video (on wide range HB vs PAF this saturday). :) Great explanation. Kuddos. The drawing is funny. You do realize, the utmost right peak? :) And what is that gorgeous tele in the background? Once again, great video, will subscribe.
This is very good detail of half the picture. My amplifier goes from 12v-.02v. I'm wondering, Will adjusting this affect my 12 volt motorcycle battery differently; or does that not matter in any aspect? I seem to remember reading something about that's the current/working amperage. And I'm thinking- as far as power consumption, the closer to .02 the less it takes to work?
Dylan, I really really love this video. Thanks man! Question for ya if you don't mind: Josh Scott of JHS put out a video about Boost that was really awesome, and I'm wondering, are gain and boost the same thing? He talks about using boost to create that distorted sound instead of a distortion pedal, but wouldn't that just keep making you louder and louder as you tried to make more of that crunch? Does Gain work the same way? Thanks!
Hey, Dylan! Can you, please, tell about more unusual pickup designs such as Fender's Wide Range humbuckers, Gibson's Firebird mini-humbuckers, Filtertrons, etc? It's easy to find information how they are built but I will be really interested to hear your explanation why this construction affects their tone in such a specific way. Thanks a lot for your videos!
25Hz to Life in case you never found out, the gain is where you set it (as mentioned in this video) for maximum potential output. The bass knob (which should be set to max during gain setting) is to control how much power your amp is putting out (more like a volume knob), with the maximum power setting being where your gain is set so you can’t turn it up past that point which would induce clipping and damage your sub(s).
I have a 5W Laney Cub tube amp. Unfortunately, I bought the most basic one (that they don't make anymore), it only has two knobs: Tone and Volume and has two inputs high and low. The issue I am having is that I cannot get this amp to break up (give distortion) like I want it to. Even an SD-1 (overdrive) will not provide enough. A Rat pedal seems to work but it is an oversaturated sound. So the amp has no gain knob. What I want to do is get a distorted sound at bedroom levels. I actually played with a rock drummer with this 5-watt amp placed carefully, it was barely loud enough but at home, even at vol 2, it is too much. Should I buy a EQ with gain pedal? Like the MXR 10 and EQ with gain? How can I get distorted sounds at lower volumes? I basically need a pre-gain stage not just volume knob on the pedal.
So could I turn my gain all the way down to power a lower RMS subwoofer?? The subs I want to get or between 200 to 500 RMS & R 2 ohm and the amp I have is 1 ohm stable at 800 RMS
gabrielgalaxygh I know I’m late, but for the sake of knowledge I’m gonna answer this haha you can turn the gain down as it limits the output power, but you’d need an oscilloscope or an RTA to see the signal to make sure it’s set properly to make sure you’re sending a clean signal to your amp/subs and then you can use a DMM to measure the voltage output to make sure you’re setting it at the right output level to match your subs. For an 800W RMS @ 1ohm amp, generally it would be ~400W RMS @ 2ohms so wiring it to 2ohms will give you the right amount of power and also let the amp run cooler.
Power is current x voltage. You can have more voltage, the current is reduced. The amp can put in additional power / current, as it has a power supply.
Why can't anyone make a video showing how gain SOUNDS . with some demonstrations .very frustrating searching and just finding useless science info i could find explained elsewhere
Wow. Some people. Gauging by the other responses, it’s not the author who has a problem here. Let me guess tho: this guy came on RUclips wanting a very basic and practical answer to what is gain in 20 seconds, and then fired off this rude comment out of frustration that the answer here is not directed only at purely practical issues but rather at actual deep understanding. So I want to cut him some grace, but yeah, it was him with the faulty expectations. It is better to understand that the world doesn’t revolve around any one of us and the current issue or question we have in the exact moment 👍
@@DylanTalksTone I'm not trying to be an ass, but he is right. Gain controls are always put on the input of a component and volume controls are always put on the out put of a component. That information wasn't in the video. Only gain can overdrive/distort the signal. A volume control can't alter the signal in any way. That's another thing that's important to know. Its why gain staging is so important, and why there's no such thing as volume staging. The biggest issue people have when understanding both gain and volume is they don't see them at different. Both knobs make it louder. You did touch on that in the video, but more information would have made it easier to understand.
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Best description of gain vs volume I’ve heard yet. Easy to understand, thanks
More of my re watch/review. It's still a great video. As an audiophile and former stereo salesman I used to say " Listen to how accurately this system reproduces that distortion " Thanks for this.
Thanks for this, and I'm looking forward to the next video. I tried getting the guy who fixes my amps and pedals to explain the difference between gain and volume and got the unsatisfying answer that "they're the same thing". If they were the same, the distinction between overdrive pedals and clean boost pedals wouldn't make sense. I still don't entirely get it, but I knew I wasn't getting the whole story from him; hopefully you'll help me make full sense of it in the next video.
Your previous videos have been extremely educational, as well. Please, keep up the awesome work!
These early videos are great. And I'm sure they're probably the most viewed because some of us learn through Visual demonstrations. Which is why I continue to ask for more videos like this where you use the Whiteboard to illustrate the issues. Thanks
Overdriven, forgot that term :). New subscriber. Player of 30+ years & collector of all things guitar. I understand this concept, but I must tell you that you have a very clear, simple way of explaining relatively complex systems. I went back through your older vids to brush up on concepts I felt I didn't have a good grasp of. I came away from each video with a better understanding of each system being covered. Not once did I have to "rewind" because I didn't understand or because you weren't clear. Good stuff. Glad I found the channel.
Echoed over here too dude.
This is an old video but I still got to comment. 1:04 into the video and it’s already the most comprehensive video I’ve seen on this subject.
I learned much. Thanks. Block the haters!
Great
I had never thought of doing the cranking the master and using the gain.
Usually did the opposite and crank the gain to about 70% then dialled back if it sounded distorted.
Great explanation of gain vs volume
Absolutely perfect explanation.
Stumbled upon this, and actually, I watched your first video (on wide range HB vs PAF this saturday). :) Great explanation. Kuddos. The drawing is funny. You do realize, the utmost right peak? :) And what is that gorgeous tele in the background? Once again, great video, will subscribe.
thanks for sharing this - as a beginner this was really helpful
superb video, I'm a music scholar...you are a great teacher!!!!!!
Thanks bud im digging in to the workings
The dsl20h has a gain and volume was wondering how that compares to a master volume
He mentioned saturated, i love it.
I get saturated atleast 3 times a week 🍻
This is very good detail of half the picture. My amplifier goes from 12v-.02v. I'm wondering, Will adjusting this affect my 12 volt motorcycle battery differently; or does that not matter in any aspect? I seem to remember reading something about that's the current/working amperage. And I'm thinking- as far as power consumption, the closer to .02 the less it takes to work?
Great illustration
Dylan, I really really love this video. Thanks man! Question for ya if you don't mind: Josh Scott of JHS put out a video about Boost that was really awesome, and I'm wondering, are gain and boost the same thing? He talks about using boost to create that distorted sound instead of a distortion pedal, but wouldn't that just keep making you louder and louder as you tried to make more of that crunch? Does Gain work the same way? Thanks!
it makes a lot of sense in 2021 thank you
Hey, Dylan! Can you, please, tell about more unusual pickup designs such as Fender's Wide Range humbuckers, Gibson's Firebird mini-humbuckers, Filtertrons, etc? It's easy to find information how they are built but I will be really interested to hear your explanation why this construction affects their tone in such a specific way. Thanks a lot for your videos!
What is the difference between gain and a bass knob on a car amp and how to I stay within a level away from distortion?
25Hz to Life in case you never found out, the gain is where you set it (as mentioned in this video) for maximum potential output. The bass knob (which should be set to max during gain setting) is to control how much power your amp is putting out (more like a volume knob), with the maximum power setting being where your gain is set so you can’t turn it up past that point which would induce clipping and damage your sub(s).
Great video! Major thumbs up and instant subscriber
easy to understand..thank you.
I have a 5W Laney Cub tube amp. Unfortunately, I bought the most basic one (that they don't make anymore), it only has two knobs: Tone and Volume and has two inputs high and low. The issue I am having is that I cannot get this amp to break up (give distortion) like I want it to. Even an SD-1 (overdrive) will not provide enough. A Rat pedal seems to work but it is an oversaturated sound. So the amp has no gain knob. What I want to do is get a distorted sound at bedroom levels. I actually played with a rock drummer with this 5-watt amp placed carefully, it was barely loud enough but at home, even at vol 2, it is too much. Should I buy a EQ with gain pedal? Like the MXR 10 and EQ with gain? How can I get distorted sounds at lower volumes? I basically need a pre-gain stage not just volume knob on the pedal.
So I turned down my gain and turn up the volume and I still get clipping and vice versa. Same thing
Thanks made it clearer
Great video!
Thanks, Dylan. I've wanted to understand this for a long time and you cleared it up.
Tell that to Nigel.
Man this video is excellent
This was so freaking helpful. Lightbulbs everywhere
Bro your are excellent.
I do not no about gain now I know about gain.
Commenting to inflate the stats on this video. Also I liked it. I'm glad I watched this before the Part II. Even though I respect Yo! MTV Raps
Thank you Dylan, your videos are always great!
Thank you.
Simple and concise explanation really. Great video!
Excellent
thankyou
So could I turn my gain all the way down to power a lower RMS subwoofer?? The subs I want to get or between 200 to 500 RMS & R 2 ohm and the amp I have is 1 ohm stable at 800 RMS
gabrielgalaxygh I know I’m late, but for the sake of knowledge I’m gonna answer this haha you can turn the gain down as it limits the output power, but you’d need an oscilloscope or an RTA to see the signal to make sure it’s set properly to make sure you’re sending a clean signal to your amp/subs and then you can use a DMM to measure the voltage output to make sure you’re setting it at the right output level to match your subs. For an 800W RMS @ 1ohm amp, generally it would be ~400W RMS @ 2ohms so wiring it to 2ohms will give you the right amount of power and also let the amp run cooler.
whr does that gain come from?? Like
does the voltage gets bigger..where does that #extra voltage come
from?
Power is current x voltage. You can have more voltage, the current is reduced. The amp can put in additional power / current, as it has a power supply.
is it possible to make my guitar sing? like actual words?
Try a Korg Miku pedal
Talk box.
This video was excellent! Thank you for the tutoring.
cool video- I like the drawings :) Thanks for making it!
Great explanation, thanks
dude! give a link for the next part!
Fucking gains bro
mkay
an example for beginners woulve been nice
thank you!
Why can't anyone make a video showing how gain SOUNDS . with some demonstrations .very frustrating searching and just finding useless science info i could find explained elsewhere
We have this video. Subscribe and you will find it
Another example of over-complicating a fairly straightforward and easy to understand topic. Way to much gassing on about minutia.
Wow. Some people. Gauging by the other responses, it’s not the author who has a problem here. Let me guess tho: this guy came on RUclips wanting a very basic and practical answer to what is gain in 20 seconds, and then fired off this rude comment out of frustration that the answer here is not directed only at purely practical issues but rather at actual deep understanding. So I want to cut him some grace, but yeah, it was him with the faulty expectations. It is better to understand that the world doesn’t revolve around any one of us and the current issue or question we have in the exact moment 👍
this was worthless. you neve explained the difference between gain and volume.
Well… since that was the goal and title of the video,I’d say it was successful if that’s what you got out of it. Thanks so much.
@@DylanTalksTone I'm not trying to be an ass, but he is right. Gain controls are always put on the input of a component and volume controls are always put on the out put of a component. That information wasn't in the video. Only gain can overdrive/distort the signal. A volume control can't alter the signal in any way. That's another thing that's important to know. Its why gain staging is so important, and why there's no such thing as volume staging. The biggest issue people have when understanding both gain and volume is they don't see them at different. Both knobs make it louder. You did touch on that in the video, but more information would have made it easier to understand.
O FFS another one of these insufferable "OK?" guys.. pass
Another useless comment lol
@@DylanTalksTone You forgot to ask: ok?
Shootin' Bruin obviously you are new here. If you are gonna be cool, you are welcome, but if you are gonna be a jerk, ain’t nobody got time for that.
@@DylanTalksTone I do! : )
this was terible
So was "terible" with one r.
Why does my
Music on my speaker hurts my ears when the gain is all the way up