Built a model out of Sculpy polymer clay based on this design. It had the same saucer and nacelles. But gave the rear of the ship a design closer to the Loknar class. Agree with you Samuel, it does seem like it would be a better survey/science vessel, even escort, than a warship. Probably would want a warship more compact-which the Defiant was.
It looks like a fighter from the Star Wars Legends EU. Reminds me of a K-Wing mixed with a Y-Wing somewhat. Edit: Giving it a second look I wonder if it served as a partial inspiration to STO's Patrol Escort.
The first thing this reminded me of was the Kilrathi *Fralthi* cruiser from the first Wing Commander game. It has the same kind of stooping hull design, a pair of engine pods at the top, and wings the curve down to the nacelle mounts. If the warp engines were just at the bottom of the wings, rather than on a wrap-around to put them above, it would be uncanny. Even the location of the bridge is similar. The most significant difference, by my eye, is that the *Fralthi* has very significant bow protrusions, as opposed to the short split-bow here. Remove the *Falthi's* bow-mandibles and roll the wingtips up to put the engine nacelles above the wings, and you end up with something very similar to this concept.
That thing gives the impression of enormous impulse engines implying fantastic realspace speed and maneuverability. As for familiarity it doesn't look entirely unlike the Rapier and Ushaan class escorts in STO, but crossed a bit with the big central spine of the patrol escorts.
Remove the wings/nacelles, paint it desert yellow, and slap a turret with a cannon on it and *BAM!* you have the trade federation hover tank from the phantom menace lol.
The Nacelle attachment is hokie looks like someone carrying twelve packs of soda's on their shoulders. It looks like a mashup of Klingon, Romulan, and Federation.
I agree with Stewart, the design would look better if the saucer was more equal with the nacelle struts. As is, I think the design would look better if the struts were straightened to look more like a wing and the Nacelles were hung underneath the wing.
The nacelles are red because they didn't get Probert's line of sight. lol I thought warp nacelle testbed until you flipped it upside down. I would hang that thing on the wall like that. Then it really gets a science light explorer sort of vibe. What a difference like the Miranda.
I'd like to see this as the entire saucer section as a weapons area. Livable section is only in the neck and the saucer can be switched out to carry various weapons or sensor payloads (like the roll bar pods on the reliant variants)
It looks to me like a periguine fighter that took off the cockpit, added a sausser and nacells to function like an atmospheric survey version of Oberth. I dont like the curve down then jet up and wrap back of the wings. Thats just a whole lot of extra metal. Just have the nacells attach at the bottom of the wings. And if this was indeed meant for atmospheric flight, have the nacells sweep back a bit more from the center of mass for more stable flight. Maybee 2 visible akira style torpedoe pods flanking the neck. Melding with thoes rear impulse engines. Oooo, add a galaxyX class spinal mount phaser lance melding with the neck and sausser.
Sometimes the dramatic departure from the usual Trek style really works. Defiant style ships are near the top of my favorite of the 2300s era for me! This concept is fantastic for a utility ship like a starship tender, or maybe something that would be a defender or interceptor to protect federation worlds and colonies, in the defender role it would need much more armament. At any rate a great design but not a fleet badass like Defiant! I love defiant because it brought the idea that it was like a submarine in the fleet. Yes all the ships are visible sharing the same space, its hard to have an analogy where there's atmosphere separated above a liquid like oceans, or nebula where subs would hide. However its still a decent analogy for the size of the ship and being more spartan in crew yet having dramatic offensive power. And the term escort works for subs because the US Navy cold war subs were half the time used to escort carrier battle groups and hunting other subs, vs WWII and previous subs were just for sinking cargo and enemy ships. I get that escort is a nebulous term because present day and WWII, escorts were corvettes, destroyer escorts, sloops, and frigates, all of these escorted Atlantic convoys protecting them from U-boat attacks. But again the defiant screams nuclear sub SSN to me, and it has the minimal, fared-in tight build and smooth shapes that nuclear subs have. Love them as well as the more traditional trek styles! I have the old Trek magazine somewhere that featured the Defiant concepts. I kinda wish they went with the design concept that had "tusks on a frisby" look, but I still like the final Defiant design a lot. Thankfully that "tusk-sensors" ship became the Xenon class in one of the early computer simulator games (Armada?), and one of the other notched dish designs became something called Valiant class, even though Valiant was used in DS9 canon as belonging to the Defiant class. And many of you probably know, I think the name Valiant being used in canon, confirms for me the submarine-like thinking of these ships by Star Trek creators for DS9, because the name Valiant has become a famous name repeated in Royal Navy for their submarines!! There were the U/V class submarines in WWII one of which was the Valiant, and in the nuclear age, an early British SSN was the Valiant.
Really feels very Star Wars to me, Y-wing vibe. I can totally understand people seeing a Trade Federation tank in it. I think this version was drawn slender and tall to contrast to the low, broad 'stubby' designs that evolved in the Defiant somewhere along the design selection process.
Here's where a non-warp landing part makes sense to me: some allied world that had had a matter/anti-matter accident at some point and developed very strict rules about planetside matter/anti-matter.
I always got slightly Klingon vibes from this sketch, especially in the nacelles grille area, and I guess the overall shape with the gull wings. It also seems a bit like the old FASA TNG Officers Manual book that had a bunch of kludge looking TNG designs? That said, I do like this concept, it seems like it would have been a cool Starfleet ship of the week, perhaps a ship that had Klingon design influence and a cloaking device. I’d like to see the basic shape but using more Movie era components, too, I think that would be neat! The upside down view seems to me to make the ship more substantial, but would it look good from the side view? I’m not sure.
If I'd change anything remove the neck and have the saucer line up with the wings then maybe a sleeker neck underneath and have that as the primary torpedo launcher
Cut half the nacelle pylon off, so that the nacelles point down at 45 degrees, and flip that impulse engine or whatever housing over and slide it under the pylons. Also get rid of the vertical face of the neck by starting at the leading edge of the wing and sloping to the back of the bridge adding a deflector dish in the middle of the slope. Much sleeker.
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I really like the design, although I don't think it feels "tough" enough to be a Borg killer warship. Would be a fun vessel to adapt as a "future Fleet" vessel in Discovery - which is, herself, a revisted concept ship after all.
The lack of weapons, What looks like massive Impulse system, weird shaped pylons. This looks more like a Courier ship. Have it split apart. the Saucer actually makes landings for diplomatic conferences. The other section would be the drive and weapons section to provide a security overwatch of said meetings and diplomats. The Saucer itself could be considered a neutral meeting place between warring factions. Well thats what I would go with it.
this woulda been cool as a background dominion war ship or a federation supply frigate that visits DS9 during the war, it coulda been a good support ship or a medical frigate eh meant to be a science survey ship but quickly turned into a medical ship to take care of wounded soldiers and transport the wounded to a starbase for proper care eh design does look cool IMO inverted or not, ya gotta give em props for thinking of new ideas
I thought they were trying to get away from using a design with a neck. Since the neck on the Federation ships were considered a weak point. Plus in my opinion, this design looks more like a regression. Something that would be best paired up with the Enterprise refit/A and the Excelsior.
Reminds me of one of the 22nd century ships from Star Trek Legacy, Strider Class i think. The saucer anyway. And that one has a Retro Nova class feel. What do y’all think?
I think the design is actually cool; though I would call this a recon ship, imho. In modded ST: Bridge Commander, the ship is known as the P81 Alita Class.
I think it is perfect to be surprising. Just for like an example. Say Starfleet are at,war with the Klingons again. Starfleet build this new warship knowing it looks weak and useless. It approaches a Klingon battlecruiser. The Klingons laugh at how weak it is, but then BOOM!!! The ship reveals many hidden weapon ports and blasts that Klingon ship into next week!!!
It looks like the fighters that we see in DS9 that explode a lot - or the maquis raider. I'm not a big fan of it. But I can see it being between the Oberth and the Nova class. If the UFP ever again designs a war ship in canon - they need...more cannons.
Weird little ship. I would drop the necelles down so they are incased in thr negative space in the struts. It would then give design a more aggressive stance.
the pylons have the problem that they have a borderline comedicly amount of curves.. like first a soft downslope coming from the main hull, then to the side, then upwards then inwards again to meet the nacelles
Eh, the overbuilt wings the nacelles are on is kind of obsessive and wasteful of space. If it didn't have those looped wing strut things under the nacelles it would look better, and as you said, more like the concept Voyager. It also is similar to the Klingon battleship in All Good Things. Make it a Bajoran ship. The nose reminds me of the Enterprise Nx in the front.
Nah the first one is too convoluted and it fails line of site. Fyi the actual defiant abides by line of site despite what everyone says the warp glow strips should be applied to those parts to show that they do see each other
Very cool concept design... However it doesnt give me the warship vibe. Feels more of a survey/scout ship. Like everything except how the nacelles is connected to the wings. Just too complicated. Had to re-watch this episode after seeing the 2nd Defiant concept episode.
Absolutely hate it. It looks more like a sketch for the Yeager class. So glad it was never used. That said I think I can see what they were going for. An opposite ship. Nacelle colors are backwards, Layout is vert flipped. Now maybe it could have been an intriguing Alien of the week ship. I can get on board with that.
It’s “interesting” but why? Why the bulky two things in the back? Why go out of your way to attach the nacelles from the outside? Why have such a thick connector to a relatively thinner engineering section? Is this what you get after drinking too much Romulan Ale and stare too long at the D7? And why does the nacelles look like thin trains?
Too many changes in direction for the pylons, swoop away and down below the nacelles, almost a right angle outward, right angle BACK up, now outside the nacelles, final right angle turn into the nacelles, why?
Yeah I'm not a fan of her, right side up. Inverted she looks a lot better really. Still, those nacelles look odd, and the mounting is even stranger. So much unnecessary hull used up to wrap around to the outboard side of the nacelles. It'd look so much better with the nacelles mounted at the bottom of the wing section. Speaking of the wing, that part is definatly giving me a Klingon, even Romulan vibe, and the pods on the top of the wing are definatly more Klingon than Federation. The vertical step in the neck just looks awkward to me, and is that cupped feature on the side of the neck one of a twin deflector array? Its sure not the round details on the nose, given that she's meant to dock with DS9 and the size of them, I'm thinking those are airlocks? It took me a while to notice but she has no registry or insignia either, and now that I've noticed it, she looks even more wrong.
Strange? Indeed..... Interesting? Definitely! A warship? No way........... i can see this a science, survey, diplomatic.....or even a policing ship.....but a warship it is not.
Nope its definitely not trek.. It looks like it belongs in the Alien franchise, or Terminator with Skynets odd looking flying vehicles.. Might work as a drop ship for Star Trek but they've got shuttles for that.. The Defiant we ended up with is definitely more star trek even though the power plant is incorporated into the hull.. This just doesn't emulate star trek in anyway..
it looks cooler i liked the defiants size but i hate the stupid nose on the defiant. if they got rid of it and made it more of a disc like the rest of the body i think it would of beem better
To me, it looks like he tacked on wings and engines to a droid tank from star wars ep. 1.
Being inverted makes me look a whole lot better course it could show a lot more Weaponry than it is
Built a model out of Sculpy polymer clay based on this design. It had the same saucer and nacelles. But gave the rear of the ship a design closer to the Loknar class. Agree with you Samuel, it does seem like it would be a better survey/science vessel, even escort, than a warship. Probably would want a warship more compact-which the Defiant was.
It looks like a fighter from the Star Wars Legends EU. Reminds me of a K-Wing mixed with a Y-Wing somewhat.
Edit:
Giving it a second look I wonder if it served as a partial inspiration to STO's Patrol Escort.
canisblack it looks like oberth had a baby with a Norway
It looks like the Drone Tank from Star Wars Episode One !
The first thing this reminded me of was the Kilrathi *Fralthi* cruiser from the first Wing Commander game. It has the same kind of stooping hull design, a pair of engine pods at the top, and wings the curve down to the nacelle mounts. If the warp engines were just at the bottom of the wings, rather than on a wrap-around to put them above, it would be uncanny. Even the location of the bridge is similar. The most significant difference, by my eye, is that the *Fralthi* has very significant bow protrusions, as opposed to the short split-bow here. Remove the *Falthi's* bow-mandibles and roll the wingtips up to put the engine nacelles above the wings, and you end up with something very similar to this concept.
Kinda looks like the federation built and designed a Klingon ship.
Can’t wait till u do defiant pathfinder the one that became the nova class
That thing gives the impression of enormous impulse engines implying fantastic realspace speed and maneuverability.
As for familiarity it doesn't look entirely unlike the Rapier and Ushaan class escorts in STO, but crossed a bit with the big central spine of the patrol escorts.
I was thinking the same...
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Remove the wings/nacelles, paint it desert yellow, and slap a turret with a cannon on it and *BAM!* you have the trade federation hover tank from the phantom menace lol.
The Nacelle attachment is hokie looks like someone carrying twelve packs of soda's on their shoulders. It looks like a mashup of Klingon, Romulan, and Federation.
I think it would make a interesting federation civilian design, a earth colony patrol craft, Yacht, or millennium falcon-esque smuggler vessel
Looks like it could be an Andorian ship with a Starfleet paint job, and a federation saucer section.
I agree with Stewart, the design would look better if the saucer was more equal with the nacelle struts.
As is, I think the design would look better if the struts were straightened to look more like a wing and the Nacelles were hung underneath the wing.
I remember seeing this in the DS9 book, looks very different from the finished Defiant, but love the concept
I too like it upside down. Can not tell you why but it just looks better IMO.
As always, please continue making it so 🖖
The nacelles are red because they didn't get Probert's line of sight. lol I thought warp nacelle testbed until you flipped it upside down. I would hang that thing on the wall like that. Then it really gets a science light explorer sort of vibe. What a difference like the Miranda.
I'd like to see this as the entire saucer section as a weapons area. Livable section is only in the neck and the saucer can be switched out to carry various weapons or sensor payloads (like the roll bar pods on the reliant variants)
Reminds me of a Droid army tank (Trade Federation) from Star Wars Ep1, The Phantom Menace.
This looks like a concept more for an Oberth replacement than the Nova class.
i can see the basic design of this concept, the Trade Federation Battle Tank
It looks all barfy like but still The Excelsior is a much uglier ship perhaps the ugliest Starship in all of Science Fiction
It looks to me like a periguine fighter that took off the cockpit, added a sausser and nacells to function like an atmospheric survey version of Oberth.
I dont like the curve down then jet up and wrap back of the wings. Thats just a whole lot of extra metal. Just have the nacells attach at the bottom of the wings. And if this was indeed meant for atmospheric flight, have the nacells sweep back a bit more from the center of mass for more stable flight. Maybee 2 visible akira style torpedoe pods flanking the neck. Melding with thoes rear impulse engines. Oooo, add a galaxyX class spinal mount phaser lance melding with the neck and sausser.
Sometimes the dramatic departure from the usual Trek style really works. Defiant style ships are near the top of my favorite of the 2300s era for me! This concept is fantastic for a utility ship like a starship tender, or maybe something that would be a defender or interceptor to protect federation worlds and colonies, in the defender role it would need much more armament. At any rate a great design but not a fleet badass like Defiant!
I love defiant because it brought the idea that it was like a submarine in the fleet. Yes all the ships are visible sharing the same space, its hard to have an analogy where there's atmosphere separated above a liquid like oceans, or nebula where subs would hide. However its still a decent analogy for the size of the ship and being more spartan in crew yet having dramatic offensive power. And the term escort works for subs because the US Navy cold war subs were half the time used to escort carrier battle groups and hunting other subs, vs WWII and previous subs were just for sinking cargo and enemy ships. I get that escort is a nebulous term because present day and WWII, escorts were corvettes, destroyer escorts, sloops, and frigates, all of these escorted Atlantic convoys protecting them from U-boat attacks. But again the defiant screams nuclear sub SSN to me, and it has the minimal, fared-in tight build and smooth shapes that nuclear subs have. Love them as well as the more traditional trek styles!
I have the old Trek magazine somewhere that featured the Defiant concepts. I kinda wish they went with the design concept that had "tusks on a frisby" look, but I still like the final Defiant design a lot. Thankfully that "tusk-sensors" ship became the Xenon class in one of the early computer simulator games (Armada?), and one of the other notched dish designs became something called Valiant class, even though Valiant was used in DS9 canon as belonging to the Defiant class. And many of you probably know, I think the name Valiant being used in canon, confirms for me the submarine-like thinking of these ships by Star Trek creators for DS9, because the name Valiant has become a famous name repeated in Royal Navy for their submarines!! There were the U/V class submarines in WWII one of which was the Valiant, and in the nuclear age, an early British SSN was the Valiant.
Really feels very Star Wars to me, Y-wing vibe. I can totally understand people seeing a Trade Federation tank in it. I think this version was drawn slender and tall to contrast to the low, broad 'stubby' designs that evolved in the Defiant somewhere along the design selection process.
It reminds me a little of Star Wars K-Wing. The early model voyager looks like a Y-Wing.
the saucer reminds me of the archer class scout vessel from the Vanguard novel series.
Here's where a non-warp landing part makes sense to me: some allied world that had had a matter/anti-matter accident at some point and developed very strict rules about planetside matter/anti-matter.
I always got slightly Klingon vibes from this sketch, especially in the nacelles grille area, and I guess the overall shape with the gull wings. It also seems a bit like the old FASA TNG Officers Manual book that had a bunch of kludge looking TNG designs?
That said, I do like this concept, it seems like it would have been a cool Starfleet ship of the week, perhaps a ship that had Klingon design influence and a cloaking device. I’d like to see the basic shape but using more Movie era components, too, I think that would be neat!
The upside down view seems to me to make the ship more substantial, but would it look good from the side view? I’m not sure.
It looks like a Thundercats ship. The Starcat, Or Thunderstar.
If I'd change anything remove the neck and have the saucer line up with the wings then maybe a sleeker neck underneath and have that as the primary torpedo launcher
Cut half the nacelle pylon off, so that the nacelles point down at 45 degrees, and flip that impulse engine or whatever housing over and slide it under the pylons. Also get rid of the vertical face of the neck by starting at the leading edge of the wing and sloping to the back of the bridge adding a deflector dish in the middle of the slope. Much sleeker.
That ship has some Strider and Akula class elements
I like the design. Almost like Star Trek version of Firefly .
Good design for a SCE High warp heavy salvage tug, hence why the engines are up high to make room for a serious tractor beam array.
I must agree... this looks very Obereth.
I think there are too many turns in the pylons holding the nacelles. The nacelles could be mounted at the bottom of the curve before it turns back up.
It's messy, but if you just got rid of the neck and connected the saucer straight to the strut, it's a great design.
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I really like the design, although I don't think it feels "tough" enough to be a Borg killer warship. Would be a fun vessel to adapt as a "future Fleet" vessel in Discovery - which is, herself, a revisted concept ship after all.
Today on Trekyards : The Trade Federation Battle Tank.
The lack of weapons, What looks like massive Impulse system, weird shaped pylons. This looks more like a Courier ship. Have it split apart. the Saucer actually makes landings for diplomatic conferences. The other section would be the drive and weapons section to provide a security overwatch of said meetings and diplomats. The Saucer itself could be considered a neutral meeting place between warring factions. Well thats what I would go with it.
Looks like the droid tank from Star Wars Episode 1 with warp nacelles.
Captain is right fip it up side down and it works .
this woulda been cool as a background dominion war ship or a federation supply frigate that visits DS9 during the war, it coulda been a good support ship or a medical frigate eh
meant to be a science survey ship but quickly turned into a medical ship to take care of wounded soldiers and transport the wounded to a starbase for proper care eh
design does look cool IMO inverted or not, ya gotta give em props for thinking of new ideas
Sort of reminds me of a complete overhaul of a small battlestar with nacelles.
Akira, Oberth and Bord of Prey walked in a bar
It looks like a Cylon Raider landed on top of a Trade Federation AAT, and then some nacelle were added.
Heh, it looks like a collaboration between a Feddie and Klingon ship designer...and both of them high on blood wine. ;-)
I thought they were trying to get away from using a design with a neck. Since the neck on the Federation ships were considered a weak point. Plus in my opinion, this design looks more like a regression. Something that would be best paired up with the Enterprise refit/A and the Excelsior.
Reminds me of one of the 22nd century ships from Star Trek Legacy, Strider Class i think. The saucer anyway. And that one has a Retro Nova class feel.
What do y’all think?
Looked like the droid drop ships from Star Wars: the Clone Wars
Makes me think of a star wars K wing fighter bomber
Reminds me a lot of the Norway Class
Looks like a ship from an old Genesis Shmup.
I think the design is actually cool; though I would call this a recon ship, imho. In modded ST: Bridge Commander, the ship is known as the P81 Alita Class.
I think it is perfect to be surprising. Just for like an example. Say Starfleet are at,war with the Klingons again. Starfleet build this new warship knowing it looks weak and useless. It approaches a Klingon battlecruiser. The Klingons laugh at how weak it is, but then BOOM!!! The ship reveals many hidden weapon ports and blasts that Klingon ship into next week!!!
It looks like the fighters that we see in DS9 that explode a lot - or the maquis raider.
I'm not a big fan of it. But I can see it being between the Oberth and the Nova class.
If the UFP ever again designs a war ship in canon - they need...more cannons.
Perfect example of why one should not do a hit of acid and design a Star Trek ship.
I like it and would have some changes to it
I'm getting Norway Class vibes
Weird little ship. I would drop the necelles down so they are incased in thr negative space in the struts. It would then give design a more aggressive stance.
I'd say it looks like a Minbari/Vorlon Whitestar class from Babylon 5.
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I liked it upside down to
I'm thinking Maquis Raider only much bigger.
I love it 😻
The only thing I don’t like is the wings doubling back on the nacelles
Looks like a Terrahawk
Kinda reminds me of a Minivan or people mover
the pylons have the problem that they have a borderline comedicly amount of curves.. like first a soft downslope coming from the main hull, then to the side, then upwards then inwards again to meet the nacelles
It looks like a Y-wing
Eh, the overbuilt wings the nacelles are on is kind of obsessive and wasteful of space. If it didn't have those looped wing strut things under the nacelles it would look better, and as you said, more like the concept Voyager. It also is similar to the Klingon battleship in All Good Things. Make it a Bajoran ship. The nose reminds me of the Enterprise Nx in the front.
Nah the first one is too convoluted and it fails line of site. Fyi the actual defiant abides by line of site despite what everyone says the warp glow strips should be applied to those parts to show that they do see each other
Nah I'm glad they went with the defiant
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Looks like a Sto ship
Oberth, but better. It looks like the oberth. With the rear of a peregrine fighter...and a bit of sto akira varient.
i like this ship better,if they flip it over to the opposite side.then you'd have something.
Very cool concept design... However it doesnt give me the warship vibe. Feels more of a survey/scout ship. Like everything except how the nacelles is connected to the wings. Just too complicated. Had to re-watch this episode after seeing the 2nd Defiant concept episode.
Second one also no line of site.
Ummmm...k, there's a good reason some designs get rejected........
looks like an iron
Absolutely hate it. It looks more like a sketch for the Yeager class. So glad it was never used.
That said I think I can see what they were going for. An opposite ship. Nacelle colors are backwards, Layout is vert flipped.
Now maybe it could have been an intriguing Alien of the week ship. I can get on board with that.
it looks like a pleasure crusier
It’s “interesting” but why? Why the bulky two things in the back? Why go out of your way to attach the nacelles from the outside? Why have such a thick connector to a relatively thinner engineering section? Is this what you get after drinking too much Romulan Ale and stare too long at the D7? And why does the nacelles look like thin trains?
Too many changes in direction for the pylons, swoop away and down below the nacelles, almost a right angle outward, right angle BACK up, now outside the nacelles, final right angle turn into the nacelles, why?
Yeah I'm not a fan of her, right side up. Inverted she looks a lot better really.
Still, those nacelles look odd, and the mounting is even stranger. So much unnecessary hull used up to wrap around to the outboard side of the nacelles. It'd look so much better with the nacelles mounted at the bottom of the wing section.
Speaking of the wing, that part is definatly giving me a Klingon, even Romulan vibe, and the pods on the top of the wing are definatly more Klingon than Federation.
The vertical step in the neck just looks awkward to me, and is that cupped feature on the side of the neck one of a twin deflector array? Its sure not the round details on the nose, given that she's meant to dock with DS9 and the size of them, I'm thinking those are airlocks?
It took me a while to notice but she has no registry or insignia either, and now that I've noticed it, she looks even more wrong.
Hell no!!!!!!! Glad they did not use it reminds me of a gundam
Strange? Indeed..... Interesting? Definitely! A warship? No way........... i can see this a science, survey, diplomatic.....or even a policing ship.....but a warship it is not.
Nope its definitely not trek.. It looks like it belongs in the Alien franchise, or Terminator with Skynets odd looking flying vehicles.. Might work as a drop ship for Star Trek but they've got shuttles for that.. The Defiant we ended up with is definitely more star trek even though the power plant is incorporated into the hull.. This just doesn't emulate star trek in anyway..
That is ugly. But it’s cool to be able to peak behind the curtain.
Ugly ugly... it defies... fiance... just... no!
It looks like a shoehorn with nacelles?! 🤔😁
Gads what a hideous and silly concept
Don't like it
Really not a fan of this design, there is just something off about it!
It looks like its taking design cues from Klingon and Romulan ships. Feels kinda alien except for the saucer.
I like how it looks upside down.
it looks cooler i liked the defiants size but i hate the stupid nose on the defiant. if they got rid of it and made it more of a disc like the rest of the body i think it would of beem better