Synology is a pretty solid password manager, especially considering it's free for a single user. The family plan is insanely good, though. $5 per year for 6 accounts is ridiculously inexpensive, and compelling for anyone looking for a shared service without breaking the bank.
More players in this 'market' is good. I hope I can persuade more of my family members to adopt password managers (Their passwords drive me crazy!!). I personally won't try it until their mobile apps are developed as that is an essential feature for me, but I will definitely keep my eye on it. Thanks!
I have not watched the video yet. I just want to say that you have earned, by virtue of your credibility, my full attention on something I might normally skip.
Looks Great!. I'm gonna keep using BW, but good to see more choices, especially if ti encourages more people to use managers, and hence, more people using random suggested passwords, then great! also reduces effects/severity of breaches down the line...
It seems quite secure, and by default your account is protected by 2FA (e-mail, but can be changed to passkey or TOTP). Browser autofill is good, but if you need to access custom fields for additional login details (like secret questions), you will need to use the dropdown menu and copy/paste. This is no worse than Bitwarden, though. TOTP can be a little tricky, because you can't just enter the seed alone. Instead, you need the whole OTPAUTH:// sequence. Secure notes are limited in length, and significantly shorter than the competition, so if you need to make extensive use of longer secure notes, you are probably better off with Bitwarden, Zoho Vault, or NordPass. By and large, Synology C2 Password is a very good choice for a free password manager, and an excellent choice for a frugal family plan.
You could alternatively self-host to get access to the premium features. It's not too hard, but it does put the burden of self-hosting and securing your server onto you, which paying Bitwarden $10/year to do for you is well worth, plus it supports their development and maintenance of the software. But if you're someone who already self-hosts a few services, adding Bitwarden to the mix is a doddle.
Synology's datacentres are only in the US & EU (specifically Germany). Not sure how that fits with the UK/Brexit? Whilst I believe GDPR has been retained in UK domestic law, the govt has the option to review that. With other countries/businesses, etc insisting their data is stored in applicable regions, I don't think this is something I'd sign up to ... given that I know my personal data is being stored outside the UK. Edit: By 'personal data' I don't mean personally identifiable data, as defined by GDPR (before anyone comments) ... I mean access passwords! Given the myriad of data breaches over the last few years, anyone who puts their access passwords in the cloud deserves everything that comes their way, IMHO.
It's not. It has a very different feel than Bitwarden. Out of the two, I prefer Bitwarden's paid plan over Synology C2's free plan, but Synology C2's paid family plan is a crazy-good value, and would be enough for me to switch allegiances, if I ever needed family plan features. In the grand scheme of things, I would rate 1Password as "best," due to unmatched security (but it's a little pricey); Bitwarden as second, due to being a great value, being overall better in the browser (extension), and being fully featured. Third place would be nearly a tie between Zoho Vault and Synology C2 at the free tier, with Zoho being better in the browser (extension) and Synology being a little less quirky. Also, only Zoho has a vault backup feature for offline use of your database. For families, Synology beats Zoho for value, being less than a tenth of the price for 5 members. I haven't tried Dashlane, Proton Pass, or Keeper, so I am not qualified to rank them. I have tried NordPass, but although it's pretty and easy to use, it lacks certain features, and after a 2-year intro period, its paid plan is just as expensive as 1Password's.
Ah yes, because everyone is willing to setup and host their own password manager, manually setup database syncing and handle merge conflicts. Is it good to have FOSS options? Obviously. Is that for everyone? Hell no. The more good options available the more people will actually use them and use strong passwords. There's no need to be an elitist.
@@jealousygetsyounowhere5113 this channel is not "IT for grandma", this is for tech enthusiasts and people that will have no problem setting Keepass and using it with Dropbox, G Drive etc with auto sync. There is no need for personal hosting in KeePass. Still, there is a need for more OpenSource especially when talking about such a sensitive topic like passwords.
Even tech enthusiasts don't always have the time to fiddle with stuff like Keepass. It is good, but the mobile apps aren't the best and having to self-host is a turn off for me. More power to ya if you like it but I prefer this kind of thing.
@@GeoDevine Not everyone is you, not everyone shares the same priorities, interests and experiences. Can you rebuild your car's engine or do a complete service on the whole car? Or would you take it to a shop to do it for you? I can, and do, but I don't begrudge even automotive RUclipsrs about recommending professional mechanics instead of EVERYONE MUST DO IT THEMSELVES!!!!111!!! For you it's "no problem", but not everyone has the same skills and experiences as you, or cares as much. Again, no need to be an elitist.
@@jealousygetsyounowhere5113 this 100% I can setup KeePass but do I want to? Do I have the time to, or would I rather dedicate my time to doing something else? Also, to the OP, this channel is mainly aimed at tech enthusiasts, but that doesn’t mean we should gatekeep tech; that’s ridiculous. I’m sure Techteam would only welcome a larger audience, even if they were less knowledgeable about tech. We should be trying to educate and create solutions for everyone, not just the elite few. The more people get into tech, the better. Maybe take a step back and try to reconsider your mindset here. I understand FOSS softwares are great, but they may not be for everyone, enthusiast or not, and it’s important to acknowledge that as well.
Synology is a pretty solid password manager, especially considering it's free for a single user.
The family plan is insanely good, though. $5 per year for 6 accounts is ridiculously inexpensive, and compelling for anyone looking for a shared service without breaking the bank.
More players in this 'market' is good. I hope I can persuade more of my family members to adopt password managers (Their passwords drive me crazy!!).
I personally won't try it until their mobile apps are developed as that is an essential feature for me, but I will definitely keep my eye on it. Thanks!
I have not watched the video yet. I just want to say that you have earned, by virtue of your credibility, my full attention on something I might normally skip.
Thanks Thomas! I'd love to hear what you think when you've finished watching.
Looks Great!. I'm gonna keep using BW, but good to see more choices, especially if ti encourages more people to use managers, and hence, more people using random suggested passwords, then great! also reduces effects/severity of breaches down the line...
Great point!
Why is this service not available inside or own Synology servers?
In terms of security, how do you perceive the C2 Password Synology password manager and is it a suitable choice for personal use?
It seems quite secure, and by default your account is protected by 2FA (e-mail, but can be changed to passkey or TOTP). Browser autofill is good, but if you need to access custom fields for additional login details (like secret questions), you will need to use the dropdown menu and copy/paste. This is no worse than Bitwarden, though. TOTP can be a little tricky, because you can't just enter the seed alone. Instead, you need the whole OTPAUTH:// sequence. Secure notes are limited in length, and significantly shorter than the competition, so if you need to make extensive use of longer secure notes, you are probably better off with Bitwarden, Zoho Vault, or NordPass. By and large, Synology C2 Password is a very good choice for a free password manager, and an excellent choice for a frugal family plan.
0:18 Ficherich, is this the brother of Facherach and cousine of Cucheruch?
I just found out about this service too and there has to be a catch, it does what all other do.
I use lastpass currently but it drives me mad that it can't handle sub domains. Can this handle multiple different sub domains on the main domain?
Isn't Bitwarden also a "PROPERLY FREE" password manager? :)
It is, but it hides a lot of features inside their 'Premium' option. That is only $10 a year though.
You could alternatively self-host to get access to the premium features. It's not too hard, but it does put the burden of self-hosting and securing your server onto you, which paying Bitwarden $10/year to do for you is well worth, plus it supports their development and maintenance of the software. But if you're someone who already self-hosts a few services, adding Bitwarden to the mix is a doddle.
Synology's datacentres are only in the US & EU (specifically Germany). Not sure how that fits with the UK/Brexit? Whilst I believe GDPR has been retained in UK domestic law, the govt has the option to review that. With other countries/businesses, etc insisting their data is stored in applicable regions, I don't think this is something I'd sign up to ... given that I know my personal data is being stored outside the UK.
Edit: By 'personal data' I don't mean personally identifiable data, as defined by GDPR (before anyone comments) ... I mean access passwords! Given the myriad of data breaches over the last few years, anyone who puts their access passwords in the cloud deserves everything that comes their way, IMHO.
is there a way to have these passwords stored on my NAS instead of in the cloud?
Not with C2, then you have to go with Vaultwarden which is a local running Bitwarden.
When the app is out, I shall leave last pass, not having passwords sync to my phone without paying is a dealbreker nkw
Sounds like a bitwarden clone
It's not. It has a very different feel than Bitwarden. Out of the two, I prefer Bitwarden's paid plan over Synology C2's free plan, but Synology C2's paid family plan is a crazy-good value, and would be enough for me to switch allegiances, if I ever needed family plan features.
In the grand scheme of things, I would rate 1Password as "best," due to unmatched security (but it's a little pricey); Bitwarden as second, due to being a great value, being overall better in the browser (extension), and being fully featured. Third place would be nearly a tie between Zoho Vault and Synology C2 at the free tier, with Zoho being better in the browser (extension) and Synology being a little less quirky. Also, only Zoho has a vault backup feature for offline use of your database. For families, Synology beats Zoho for value, being less than a tenth of the price for 5 members.
I haven't tried Dashlane, Proton Pass, or Keeper, so I am not qualified to rank them. I have tried NordPass, but although it's pretty and easy to use, it lacks certain features, and after a 2-year intro period, its paid plan is just as expensive as 1Password's.
as long as we have Keepass password manager, free and most important Open Source, this video is irrelevant and uninformative for the channel viewers!
Ah yes, because everyone is willing to setup and host their own password manager, manually setup database syncing and handle merge conflicts. Is it good to have FOSS options? Obviously. Is that for everyone? Hell no. The more good options available the more people will actually use them and use strong passwords. There's no need to be an elitist.
@@jealousygetsyounowhere5113 this channel is not "IT for grandma", this is for tech enthusiasts and people that will have no problem setting Keepass and using it with Dropbox, G Drive etc with auto sync. There is no need for personal hosting in KeePass. Still, there is a need for more OpenSource especially when talking about such a sensitive topic like passwords.
Even tech enthusiasts don't always have the time to fiddle with stuff like Keepass. It is good, but the mobile apps aren't the best and having to self-host is a turn off for me. More power to ya if you like it but I prefer this kind of thing.
@@GeoDevine Not everyone is you, not everyone shares the same priorities, interests and experiences. Can you rebuild your car's engine or do a complete service on the whole car? Or would you take it to a shop to do it for you? I can, and do, but I don't begrudge even automotive RUclipsrs about recommending professional mechanics instead of EVERYONE MUST DO IT THEMSELVES!!!!111!!! For you it's "no problem", but not everyone has the same skills and experiences as you, or cares as much. Again, no need to be an elitist.
@@jealousygetsyounowhere5113 this 100% I can setup KeePass but do I want to? Do I have the time to, or would I rather dedicate my time to doing something else? Also, to the OP, this channel is mainly aimed at tech enthusiasts, but that doesn’t mean we should gatekeep tech; that’s ridiculous. I’m sure Techteam would only welcome a larger audience, even if they were less knowledgeable about tech. We should be trying to educate and create solutions for everyone, not just the elite few. The more people get into tech, the better. Maybe take a step back and try to reconsider your mindset here. I understand FOSS softwares are great, but they may not be for everyone, enthusiast or not, and it’s important to acknowledge that as well.