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  • Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2024

Комментарии • 29

  • @sylviatkac1992
    @sylviatkac1992 Год назад +28

    This is my grandfather father he was 15 years old when he boarded the ship from Makmanja on Groote Eylandt to work on a lugger to collect trepang and traveled to Thursday Island PNG then Makassar .One of the boys got sick on the journey and died on board the ship and was buried in PNG the PNG people attached the Makassans with arrows as they were paddling back to their ship after burying the deceased boy . The boys are from Groote Eylandt 1 Wurramarrba and 3 Wurramara this story was told by my uncle and his sons tell the same story my grandfather told this story because his father is the boy in the photo . The Makassan collected aboriginal people from Derby and North East Arnhem . They lived in Makassar over 6 years 3 of the Wurramara traveled back to Groote but the Wurramarrba boy lived with the Makassan eventually he also returned home after many years when he smiled he had two gold teeth . This is a very long story

    • @shantelletolley6896
      @shantelletolley6896 Год назад

      Oiii… tell me more. I wanna know everything about this story. I’m from FNQ.

    • @jaszulni
      @jaszulni 3 месяца назад

      Wow!

  • @drpk6514
    @drpk6514 Год назад +30

    Interestingly Indonesians were a lot more civilised than Europeans in dealing with aboriginese

    • @19tet
      @19tet Год назад

      yeah cos they werent dicks lol

    • @homebrandrules
      @homebrandrules 2 месяца назад

      how so ??

  • @TmbTmb-lr8xs
    @TmbTmb-lr8xs Год назад +12

    We need to teach our people for real history Makassar people who first came to Australia our first visitors before British

    • @SuartoSono
      @SuartoSono Год назад

      Hello bro im peaople of makassar👋

  • @urbnctrl
    @urbnctrl Год назад +7

    The Moluccans had a long and old historical connection with Australia too, consisting of trade, marriage and politics. Dating back 1000s of years.

  • @TmbTmb-lr8xs
    @TmbTmb-lr8xs Год назад +11

    I'm from Arnhem land place call Nyinyikay my people been taken away at place call dhaliwuy Makassar beach man's and women's one of my youngest great grandmother was married to royal family her yolngu name was Garngarr Gurruwiwi

  • @kilanspeaks
    @kilanspeaks 11 месяцев назад +3

    Fascinating, if only we could trace the descendants of those who married the locals in South Sulawesi. We’re all related, after all. Cheers from Indonesia! 🍻 🇮🇩

  • @jalbu8330
    @jalbu8330 Год назад +10

    How fascinating, we've always known that Aboriginal people had traded with other people's long before the British came and evidence like this proves it even further. It will be even more interesting when they find descendants. Looking forward to a follow up story. 😊

    • @shantelletolley6896
      @shantelletolley6896 Год назад +1

      I’M SO KEEN IT MAKES ME WANNA CRY!!! Im so happy some white folk cared enough to recover whatever we can before time runs out. Im from fnq- we’re all pretty passionate about it up here.

  • @banksiasong
    @banksiasong Год назад +3

    Fascinating this proof of early trading and social interaction between the people of Arnhem Land and the Kimberley, with the colonised people of Makassar.

  • @pascalalick6107
    @pascalalick6107 Год назад +2

    Very interesting to learn about this.

  • @QuestionThingsUseLogic
    @QuestionThingsUseLogic 6 месяцев назад +1

    Well the land was joined, so it's not surprising.

    • @iandudz.88
      @iandudz.88 5 месяцев назад +1

      A) Not when this was happening though. B) even when sea levels were much lower, Makassar was not part of the Australia/New Guinea supercontinent.

    • @zzzzrrrrx
      @zzzzrrrrx 4 месяца назад

      um no it wasn’t 😂

  • @Au_Hussar
    @Au_Hussar Год назад +1

    The book Beyond Capricorn by Paul Trickett mentions this situation and he references page 74 from a book called We Won the Victory - Aborigines and outsiders on the North West coast of the Kimberly.
    Hopefully this helps.

  • @peterk2455
    @peterk2455 Год назад

    There's an old term used for something that closely resembles this transportation of males from one island to another. Blackbirding. None of these fellas look particularly happy to be in those photos.
    Then again that's simply an interpretation. Much like any other interpretation of what transpired.

    • @urbnctrl
      @urbnctrl Год назад

      Moluccans and Australians have had 1000s years of trade and marriage as well so lets just finally agree that the Europeans didnt discover anything they merely infiltrated and hijacked the already existing world trade routes to monopolize it for Europe.

    • @iamchasingghosts
      @iamchasingghosts 4 месяца назад

      This is not black birding. Black birding started much later and continues later and was predominantly in QLD and was slavery not trade. It was the slavery of 65,500 South Sea Islanders was lead by Benjamin Boyd (Boydtown) who arrived in Australia in 1847 after slavery was already bandied in the empire, Robert Towns( Townsville) and John McKay (McKay) captioned those ships and were slavers, the went to it was to Tanner island, Pentecostal Island, the Solomon’s, New Caledonia etc 870 voyages of human cargo in neck chains.
      This trade with the Trapangers is a north cost trade not slavery. It doesn’t end in Makassar, they are just middle distinction to a wet market in southern China.

  • @shantelletolley6896
    @shantelletolley6896 Год назад

    Test them ALL! Are there any Aboriginal descendants in Makassar?

  • @makassar0198
    @makassar0198 Год назад

    Dan inilah salah satu bukti konkrit bahwa Bangsa Makassar (Wajo,Luwu,Mandar,Melayu) sangat mengedepankan kemanusiaan dalam menjalin/diplomasi dg bangsa lain sebab berbeza dg propaganda2 cerita karangan Yg dibuat oleh pihak2 sekutu lokal Belanda (eropah terlemah😅) bhw mereka dijajah oleh bangsa Makassar padahal singkat.y hanyalah "kedengkian" hingga tertinggal jauh oleh bangsa Makassar

  • @bluddyrowdy8757
    @bluddyrowdy8757 Год назад +1

    Mysterious ?

  • @daveh322
    @daveh322 Год назад +4

    Well....that was boring.

    • @19tet
      @19tet Год назад +6

      average tiktokker attention span