GIVE ME MY BROTHER BACK! The Story of the Aftermath of the 1998 Belgian Grand Prix
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- The Belgian Grand Prix is one of those races where it's been documented so many times you know exactly what happened even if you never saw it. The 13 car pileup, Michael trying to fight DC, Hill wins and it's the first for Jordan.
But what ISN'T mentioned much, is that after the race, a rather irate Michael Schumacher had found out team orders were in effect to ensure that Jordan won. It's that Damon, Michael's old sparring partner had benefitted, not his brother. And that upset both of them.
So what happened? Lets find out.
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The reason why the playing of GSTQ over/omitting Amhrán na bhFiann could have been highly controversial at the time, is is because The Troubles were finally starting to come to an end.
But in the few days before the Grand Prix, the Real IRA detonated a bomb in Omagh, Northern Ireland which killed 29 and injured 300.
Not the first time that something like this had happened. Eddie Irvine’s dad had received threats after the podium had Eddie under the Irish flag over the Union Flag.
Another reason why Eddie was right to do what he did was Ralf and Giancarlo Fisichella clashed in Argentina 1997 putting Fisi out. Ralf came 2nd but there was a chance of a Jordan double podium had it not been for that incident. I think that might have been in the back of Eddie's mind too when he made the decision because I think Ralf might have been at fault. I think Eddie got the Artane Boys Band (famous in Ireland for playing at the Gaelic Football and Hurling finals) to record a version of the Anthem for the FIA after that incident. At least that's the rumour I heard.
I forgot the Omagh bombing happened so close to the race, I'm sure the FIA had that in mind. Extremely delicate time politically would be an understatement. (And damned if you do, damned if you don't - no option which wouldn't cause some problems.)
Looking back, Eddie Jordan did an excellent job of keeping the team well away from the real-world politics throughout its time. There must have been many threats like that issued in private that he had to deal with. But Jordan was the most neutral of teams, impossible to dislike and everyone was happy when they did well.
when i saw the Michael hit DC, my first thought was, that was deliberate.
but even decades later it's easy to see.
it was Michael's mistake and how...
@@thesunnynationg I see it as: he had every opportunity to go the long way round and didn’t.
He pulls back into the spay for some reason.
It's always good to go back and re-watch these incidents periodically with an open mind. Ones perceptions change over time.
A minor footnote to the 1998 Belgian Grand Prix is when both McLaren's were out and Jordan was 1-2, Ron Dennis went down to the Jordan pits and was seen offering support to Eddie. Including at one point Ron is giving Eddie a back massage while Eddie is looking so ecstatic his cars are 1-2. It's in RUclips video's, one of those F1 odd but funny moments.
That black and yellow Jordan car looks amazing.
The livery, I mean.
Definitely some interesting paint schemes back in the day. Now the cars are a bit bland.
It was the right call.
Something that gets overlooked is that Hill had more than 30 seconds on Ralf before the last safety car.
Honestly anyone in Eddie's position would make that decision, there was no legitimate reason not to make that call. The only people who say otherwise are either Ralf fans (I believe he has three) or people who hate Damon.
All 3 members of the Ralf Schumacher fan club are about to send you very sternly worded letters
The people who say otherwise are Michael fans who are on his side for siding with his brother, really.
@AidanMillward I was/am a Michael fan, but I'm also Irish. To my mind that makes me objective 😂. Not allowing the drivers to fight was a no-brainer. Opportunities like that are very rare in F1 and you take them, whoever you are.😊
@@samnendze5640They're going to write you a letter, and they won't care if you don't read it.
@@Busch22Fan We've found the fan club we'd like to join less.
When Alan Jones won his first race in Austria 1977 they didn't have the Australian national anthem, so they played Happy Birthday. True story.
Did they not have a Men at Work album to hand? 😅
Crazy how they didn't have Advance Australia Fair on hand but for no good reason, had Happy Birthday ready to go!
Was it actually Allan's birthday? In which case, it would have made a bit of sense!
Similar thing happened with Pedro Rodriguez when he brought a recording of the Mexican national anthem with him to races because they didn't have one and instead played the Mexican Hat Dance.
Was literally reading the Chapter in Damon Hill’s Autobiography about this incident when this video came up….
Completely the right call at the time, If they didn't score this 1-2 i doubt they would have finished 4th in the constructors that year. Jordan was having such a horrible season in 1998 with the 198 being plagued with development issues with it only being resolved when mike gascoyne got on board half way during the season. To finally have the opportunity of a win after having mugen and your main title sponsor breathing down your neck for half the season was a no brainer call. Great looking car also!
It was mike gascoyne, not Anderson who reworked the car to its infamous mid season form
@@pokeboi5438 that's true my bad, was honestly half asleep when i wrote this.
@@sneakyturtle305 all good
Listening to to Eddie talk about this in his podcast with DC recently is amazing. He always knew how to make money, if not then he'd make it back later on. Genius
Until he tried to con Vodafone and it cost him everything.
Love EJ but he wouldn’t be surviving now. He’d be one of those “but I was able to do it in 1993” guys wondering why he’s not going anywhere.
Bit like people who work with cars now.
@@AidanMillwardwell said. Eddie was the kind of chancer that could only exist when he did. Love him, of course
I'd been listening to the Beyond the Grid podcast with Fisichella recently and, like many other people in F1, he too confirmed how Ralf, who had been his teammate at Jordan, had always been rather entitled and arrogant right from the start. Probably because of Michael mollycoddling him.
I think Jenson mentions something similar in his book too.
Onlx that Michael never coddled Ralf.
I think Eddi made 100% the right choice as a team principle. He was handed a golden opportunity on a silver plate after a cursed season and he took it. I'm all for racing but sometimes you have to put the team first, so I don't blame him, like I don't blame him or Minardi for racing in Indi 2005. Hill also had a decent lead before the saefty car, so Ralf wouldn't have a chance anyway without it.
Oh and the irony of the Michael being angry at team orders and dirty driving.
Granted Ralf probably had the last laugh in the long run, as he had a decent run at Williams while Frentzen was finished after 1999.
10:04 I choked with laughter! I think Ralf had the last laugh by 2001 though - he'd just won his home race at the same time Frentzen was fired by Jordan. Didn't exactly work out long term did it?
Ralf would have been Champion in 99 if he stayed
@@racer9637 Ralf was still a little crash-prone. I wonder how well he thinks he would have finished. I forgot how bad Damon was in 99, a whopping 7 points.
@@AndyFromBeaverton yes but Damin was burned out by then and you only got points for the top 6. Also Ralf was faster in a F1 car than Frentzen (I mean he could keep up with Montoya and had a shot in 2003 before his testing accident)
Happy 25th anniversary to my favourite F1 race of all time. I was a toddler when it happened, I rewatched the race on Sunday. Damon crossing the line always makes me smile
Michael getting pissy over team orders when he benefitted from them massively himself is fucking hilarious
Michael getting pissy over being rammed out of a race is also fucking hilarious. Never was a fan, never will be 😇
Earlier that year he’d accused Damon of dangerous driving at Canada and Damon was quick to point out the irony. Especially as Michael has been given a penalty for forcing Frentzen off the road as he came out the pits.
When he drove for Merc he nearly put Rubens into the wall on the s/f straight at Hungary and Rubens was so pissed on the radio
@@mrdog4529 he was pissed on the BBC coverage afterwards.
@@Enevan1968Okay Lewis Hamilton fanboy Lmao.
There's audio (somewhere) of Damon Hill actually pitching the team orders over the radio to the team.
It’s everywhere
My favourite thing about all of this is the absolute hypocrisy of Michael, as if he had never been on the benefiting end of similar team orders hundreds of times in his career
Reason 3: Damon had been much faster earlier in the race and lost the commanding lead he had due to the safety car.
I hate team orders, but Eddie was completely justified on this occasion. There was no good reason for him not to. Even if it had been Ralf leading, I would have been happy with the orders - I had a favourable view of Ralf back then.
I'll admit I'm a Damon fangirl, even now. Having said that, I'd have done the same thing for purely practical reasons. He said the most sensible thing under the circumstances. And it was just right after his near win for Arrows, and Adelaide '94. I'm not saying Damon was thinking anything like that, but the fan in me felt a little bit better about those dark days.
Eddie definitely got a good deal there - he always did. Ralf at Williams was seen as one of the star drivers of 1999 throughout the season. He was driving well and consistently getting points & a few podiums in a crap car. Seemed like every race Murray & Martin had good things to say about him.
I don't remember anyone at the time ever saying 'but if he'd stayed at Jordan he could be fighting for the championship instead of Frentzen'. I wonder how it would have turned out if Ralf had stayed?
I have a feeling he might not have done as well as Frentzen and his steady & consistent approach, but we'll never know. (Another one of the great what ifs of that decade.)
It's unbelievable, the fact that the 1998 Belgian gp was crazy enough to have a *GOD DAMN 12 MINUTE VIDEO* abt what happened _after_ the race. Not even the video that F1 made on the first few laps of Zandvoort is that long. Really well done.
Love the picture from around 1:10. Iconic. A bonkers but wonderful livery.
The way the livery blends the wishbones in to look like part of the hornet's jacket is genius. I hope the graphic designer responsible for that scheme got paid well by Eddie for that.
@solitaryclusterofneurons598 Aprently Eddie was raging because the snakes and hornets took up valuable advertisement space. As soon as B&H reduced their funding they were ditched.
I love EJ, that quote is fire
T-Car it was called T-Car.
*sigh* well back in 98 the season wasnt going very well for Jordan. Based on the previous 97 season the car should have been great, but it did underperform. Hill and R.Schumacher werent really happy about that and mid season the rumour started that yet again that Jordan didnt want to continue working with Schumacher as the "The Golden Boy" still made to much errors like a rookie. There was a lot of bashing from Jordan towards Schumacher, even sayin that he is just in F1 because of his brother.
At Spa 98, R.Schumacher did set up the car for a full wet race and only a early pit stop to full wet tyres let him drop down the field. He was closing to Hill (who started on full wets), which stopped under SC for new tyres. As seen in the results, R.Schumacher was under 1 second behind Hill. In those times a sign for a faster driver, as he was right in his gearbox the whole time (somehow reminds me of Monza 79 (i just stared at his engine (J.Scheckter) the whole weekend and wished it would explode (G.Villeneuve)).
Back in the day, it was said that Hill saved himself with that teamorder. But hey a win is a win.
R.Schumacher felt betrayed by these team orders and didnt even want to attend the podium.
And i need to clarify that "Getting back at him (M.Schumacher) for years".
Just search in google "contract schumacher jordan" and you even get the image.
But tbh a huge topic just brushed away.
In 1996 he did pay Jordan already money for that, so it was something personal.
Edit : Lets also add that Jordan said "They dont plan with Ralf for the 99 Season" and also wanted only to sign him with half of his salary. As Schumacher verbal agreed to that terms, Jordan than threatened every other team that they dont have any right to negotiate with him (Williams & BAR (Villeuneuve & R.Schumacher combo in 99 what the hell))
Fact : One of the rim on Hills Jordan was found to be cracked after the race. The tyre was already low on pressure and he would have retired if the race was a bit longer.
No question in my mind Jordan made the right call. Hill was right about the risks of having the two Jordans race. RS would have tried to pass, Hill would of course defended; given the conditions the chances of an error were very high. Only a few cars still running because so many had made stupid mistakes, therefore, don't make a stupid mistake by letting them race. No brainer, as the saying goes. I remember seeing Ron Dennis laughing as he tried to give a very nervous looking Eddie Jordan some encouragement. Really, Jordan had the best possible result nearly in the bag, would have been a damn fool to give any chance of it becoming the worst possible result.
i was 6 or 7 when i saw this happening in tv and thought it was the craziest thing ever, now im 32 and i think its one of the craziest motorsports things ever 😃
I remember it being a properly sunny day in Britain that day and my brother had taped the race cos I was out.
Wore the tape out watching the “OH GOD!” Moment over and over. 😂
That's what makes it. It's a very un-Murray thing for Murray to have shouted. 😄
It was such an obvious no brainer, I don't even understand why there's any question about it.
I remember watching this as a kid. Damon was my favorite driver and Jordan my favorite team so I was pumped going into the 1998! I was shouting at the TV for this win and probably woke up other members of my family because I was on the US eastern time zone and had to get up very early to watch the races on Speedvision.
Never mind all this stuff about contemporary drivers being petals for not wanting to drive in the rain, what I do miss about 'ye olden days' is the occasional square go in the pits. Everybody's too 'nice' these days! Sometimes it is healthy to have a good strop, and take a few doors off their hinges.
Jordan, MS and contracts don’t mix
Of course EJ had to say to stay 1-2. It was the only sensible thing to do
The Michael sure could be a spiteful vengeful prick when the mood struck him. But then again, so could Jordan.
man seen DC sticking the heed into michael would be funny asf
It's also worth noting at the time of this race if a race was red flagged in the first two laps the race was completely annulled and the timing completely reset.
But if someone stalled on the formation lap they did another one and took the lap off.
Was a weird time.
@@AidanMillward Yup, I always find it funny how serendiptity or chance affects things. You set rules with the best of interests and foreseeing stuff and you will miss things. The early 90s (especially the 94 season with it's problems and tons of drivers) were a weird time that threw up so many unforeseen circumstances and tested these rules.
Not that all of them were great rules though.
@@AidanMillward Indeed they changed the red flag procedure rules I think in 2005? to pretty much what we have tiday to appease TV companies so we didn't have go through elongated restart procedure and the race just resumed from whatever lap it had been flagged on.
@@TheSt1092 And then Canada 2011 said 'Hold My Beer!!'
RUclips are going to love those quotes by Eddie.
Excellent noting of Tosser too.
Had to declare that as 'sexual content' in the ad check boxes.
My take has always been that Eddie could've easily told them to swap places as Ralf was catching Damon. Do it on one of Spa's long straights and there is (almost) no risk
Why would you swap them to begin with? And don't' even try "well The Ralf was faster" because Damon had been faster all weekend and the only reason The Ralf had caught up was the safety car.
There is ZERO reason to even attempt a swap
@MrSniperfox29 Sorry bud you got me wrong, my comment was meant in defence of Damon. Bad phrasing on my part
EJ did what every other team principal would have done. Especially the midfield teams. I wonder what would have happened if Ralf had not responded and tried racing Damon?? Hmmm.......
2:51 I can hear Murray shouting "Oh GOD!"
And the Tires heading to International space station
EJ quote "I look like a feckin Genius“ such an Irish thing to say. 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
In the long term, Ralf got the better deal signing for Williams, winning 3 races in 2001 and 3 more in 2002 and 2003. Meanwhile Jordan, after winning two races and finishing 3rd in 1999, only won one more race before selling his team. Having said that, Ralf never finished higher than 4th in the championship.
awesome video
The reason why people think Hill threatened to have Ralf off is that Eddie Jordan went round for years telling people that. I'm pretty sure he said it on the BBC when he was a pundit there.
I, for one, can absolutely understand how Hill would say "if we two race, we could end up with nothing" and Jordan would hear "if he tries to come past me I'm having him off".
I thought Hill played Jordan like a fiddle there, which can't be an easy thing to do, or even to think about, while driving a racing car in the wet, which would require all my mental faculties and then some.
For Jordan it was a no-brainer. You just can't have your two cars anywhere near potentially making contact in that situation. The usual argument that you also have to consider team dynamics, driver confidence and morale and so on, doesn't carry anywhere near as much weight as the argument that you're running first and second and you need to convert that.
It was an open secret by then that Ralf was going to Williams. Suppose Jordan had let them race and Ralf had passed Hill reasonably cleanly - where's the benefit to Jordan compared to what happened? The team would still have the same two trophies for first and second. They'd still have one unhappy driver. They'd possibly have had an unhappy (or a least less than optimally happy) main sponsor. And no matter how happy Ralf would have been, it just didn't justify risking that result.
More to the point I'm not entirely convinced, by the time Ralf had caught Hill, that he had the tyres under him to challenge for the lead. If he thought he could have got past, I assume he would have done so irrespective of what Sam Michael had said to him. I certainly don't think he should have followed the instruction. What were they going to do, sack him for winning? When it was the team's first win? Even if they did, he'd have been back in F1 with Williams the next season, so the trade off would have been well worth it for the win.
I think it’s just how Damon is. He could say something as simple as “if we race we might screw it up” but it would be said in such a blunt fashion it could be seen as a threat.
Back then I used to often be out on a Sunday, so I'd record the race and watch it later.
I knew then and there after the first lap incident, that was a keeper, so I popped the record tab out instantly and continued watching. I still have that put to one side today.
Although Jarno Trulli would disagree about seeing the liveries in the wet. Damon hit him gently while lapping him, when Damon apologised in Monza, Jarno thought he had been hit by a Tyrrell
It should also be said that Ralf did accept the decision afterwards and did write a nice tribute to Damon in F1 Racing when he announced his retirement the following season
And yet here people were in 2021 shouting “let them race”
But you could technically argue they were racing. Jean Alesi was behind the Jordans and then there was a 25 second gap back to Frentzen in fourth place. Not only that they lapped Jarno Trulli for a second time on Lap 43 - at Radillion of all places
It was 25 years ago and that's something I didn't know about that race, thanks for the interesting tale
I honestly think it shouldn't really matter if the team has never won, if they're having a bad season, if sponsors are pressuring them into bringing results or if the conditions on the track are bad.
If your cars are running 1-2, it shouldn't even be a question, unless the two are fighting eachother for a driver's championship. Just protect the 1-2 and bring the cars home safely. Everyone has to understand that, including the guy in the second place. If the second place driver has a better chance to fight for the championship, consider swapping positions (without racing).
Hello Aidan: This was great and it gave me a good laugh. Have a lovely day.
it's funny that The Michael was getting upset about DC "trying to kill me" and rabbiting on that the crash was deliberate when he has history of deliberately crashing into cars
Learned something new today, thanks!
I can see why Michael was raging with Eddie. Michael never had the advantage of winning through team orders! Oh, wait......
I had that race on tape and I watched it so many times the tape stretched.
Excellent synopsis on an oddball race.
Well made video, but I wouldn't have thought it was warranted. Eddie took the only reasonable option. Playing the British anthem instead of the Irish one is more controversial imo
nice review.
About the only time I'll ever defend the car-crash of humanity that is EJ, is this. He was 100% right. Damon is a former world champion. Ralf was just a load of cobblers (ha!). Team orders are heinous when you're miles ahead of the field, but when you're a midfield team on a lucky day, do all you can to maximise.
i do feel Damon is sometimes not given the credit he is due. From the early nineties he was test driver for Williams. He won a lot of races as did others driving cars he was responsible for developing. As soon as he left Williams they stopped winning regularly. By 1998 Jordan had promised a lot but not delivered. Hill starts testing for them and when the developments get to the car it suddenly became far more competitive.
True but then Damon pretty much gave up on F1 and "quiet quit" before the term was invented.
Damon quitting is definitely one to do in the future. Guy's head was scrambled.
@@AidanMillward a friend of mine worked for Damon in 1999. EJ wouldn't let Damon leave, even though he was mentally having a very tough time then. Georgie Hill apparently has despised Jordan ever since.
Damon was an extremely average World Champion.
@@sanfordcurtis8242 I don't think I have ever heard Damon Hill suggest anything to the contrary. My impression of him has always been that he knows very well where his position in F1 is.
Back to my earlier points two thngs I forgot to mention; cars he helped develop won 4 world titles 92,93,96 and 97. Also the 1997 Arrows he helped to develop came so close to winnng a Grand Prix.
So not the greatest world champion but a long way from being the worst.
I've got a die cast of a Jordan in the Buzzin' Hornets livery.
Had a micro machines one of the 99 car.
Saying this as someone who generally thinks Ralf was given a massively undeserved bad rap (so kind of a Fan?), I have never got how people have taken the Schumacher side here. I get the Schumacher brother's emotion. I understand from their narrow personal view why what was done was done and frankly moving to the soon to be BMW Williams just in general is a good idea.
But fans try to defend this as a hypocritical moment for EJ cause he was anti Team Orders for most of his stay. But this is very much a case where they were warranted and not orders for a season which we have seen or orders for something very pointless. Maintain the 1-2 and NOT CRASHING was a pretty solid rationale for issuing team orders. And that's not saying EJ is a saint, his dealings with Frentzen during 2001 and into 2002 are pretty putrid. But there's no way to justify any other decision in this case.
Isn't the Schumi-DC incident one of the reasons cars now have blinking rain lights as opposed to static ones?
Jordan won the Frentzen-Ralf trade in the short-term, but long-term wise I'd argue that Ralf and Sir Frank had won - while Jordan's stock fell after the 1999 season, Williams' stock with Ralf, Juan-Pablo Montoya and BMW skyrocketed to the point of being the best team that could challenge Ferrari in the early 2000's before Frank inevetably started to f*ck it up by telling BMW to piss off after denying them the chance to purchase a stake in the team.
Pushing the cars to their limit ( i.e. racing) in conditions like that would have been crazy, Just a quick glance at the retirement list told anybody with any brains that.
I miss the bright yellow Jordans, always my favourite looking cars on the grid. Sadly we are getting Audi soon, likely to be another grey car but this time with a red stripe...
Audi's Racing colors since 1999 has primarily consisted of Silver, not Grey. Its not as if the field is lacking in color so I'm not seeing the problem here.
Races like Belgium 1998 doesn't come up every season but when they come up, man is a great moment to be a F1 fan
Eddie was 100% correct, never won a race, and had a chance for a 1,2.
Satisfaction? Possibly even a happy ending \m/
I think anyone who thinks Damon would have purposely hit Ralf is delusional. Damon is not from that school of driving, and why would he risk them both not finishing just to claim a win?
Simple fact is it was 100% the right decision. While we as fans love drivers to race, we have to understand the importance of that 1-2 to Eddie and his sponsors etc. Damon was in the lead & Damon was a former world champ. Damon was far more marketable, so a win for him benefited the team far more.
As for Michaels reaction ... yeah, he had never run team orders before had he, and he would never do it after that either. Just ask Eddie, Felipe and Reubens.
One thing I will say about that race is it was nowhere near as wet as a lot of people believe, well not as far as actual rain. I was actually at that race and the rain while constant, was incredibly light to the point that I was standing out in the open up around Malmedy, and was merely damp not wet. The reason it looked so bad on the TV was standing water being kicked up by the cars. If you look at the start there is barely any water in the air until the cars wheels start spinning, then it is just a wall of water. I dunno if it was just bad drainage to blame, but yeah certainly not the heavy rain we saw there a couple of years ago when the race got abandoned.
I can remember marshals passing car parts un to the crowd
To be honest, I would have done the same if it was me and not EJ in charge of Jordan, it's the obvious and sensible thing to do. Just my opinion before I get slated.....🤣🤣
It was the right call, and if anything like always EJ he found a way to make money,
I always wonder given how much more dramatic that particular accident looked than the Michael/DC one looked, whether Fisichella went to go and try and lamp one on Nakano? No probably not, it wasn't a rival's teammate ;-)
Fisi was the sort to go and see if he’s alright after.
"Don't fight someone with a helmet on." Solid advice right there.
Depends. If you have some molotov cocktails on hand, it might not go so bad for you.
@@potatogirlcultist19a gun is quite handy too.
Well......this escalated quickly
Or you could just grab them by the helmet visor
@@jamesbraun9842or you could go for the shins
I have a pavlovian response to hearing "Ricardo Rosset" and that's to say/think "Tosser." I know nothing else about the man other than that story.
Of course Eddie was right to do this. If the team were doing this regularly it would have been wrong but as a once in a lifetime chance at a 1-2... no brainer.
You say that last part of that interview was "Paraphrasing" but lets be honest: This feels like something Eddie Jordan would Exactly say, he always came off to me as someone who's just that little bit extra.
He definitely said the bit about getting a stodge on because it made me laugh out loud when I saw it.
Personally i understand why they hold positions
Someone has been listening to BBV10s 😅😅
Not listened to a single episode tbh. Don’t listen to that or any other racing podcasts.
I read a lot of their current affairs articles though.
Parklife for the British national anthem!? Where do I sign?
and a fine day to you sir.
Aiden listened to the BBV10s episode recently and this is his version of it.
Still, quality storytelling.
I actually didn’t. Never listened to a single one of those podcasts.
Winning for the first time in over a year is what is known as....
PARKLIFE!
Only a Schumacher family level of arrogance could see anything wrong with a team holding station for a first ever win and 1-2 finish having scored hardly any points all season, absolute no brainier.
"OH GOD!"
Go Eddie
It's not difficult to understand why some people think that Damon Hill's message to not let both drivers race each other was a threat that he would wipe out both drivers if he was not allowed to win. Hill hadn't won a race for well over a year and was desperate to win again and Jordan had never won a race prior to this and this was their best opportunity. Hill knew his team mate was faster and would snatch the win from him if they were allowed to race which would annoy Hill as he would go yet another race without a win so he had to appeal to Eddie by issuing a thinly-veiled threat to him if he was not allowed to win.
Honestly if I was Ralf I would have still gone for the win
If they'd raced in the wet in a race where half of the field had already been wiped out, and had a crash, Jordan would have been a laughing stock. He did exactly what he should have.
For me it's not even an issue, even if you were a top team, let alone Jordan. A 1-2 result for a midfield team is a thing that can happen once in a lifetime, and EJ should have let them race? With 6 cars left on track, in the pouring rain?
If Ralf thought this was a good idea, well he was really an idiot.
You really hate Riccardo Rosset don't you?
Rosset was one of the worst drivers ever and had no business being in F1
I tell you what: I have yet to hear one, and I mean ONE, positive story about Michael Schumacher outside of a racing car. Starting to think the man was just an arsehole.
The really funny aspect is that the ones who agree with Eddie Jordan's team orders don't agree with the Ferrari team orders in Austria 2002. This shows there negative bias against Michael Schumacher - which I'm fine with, you need clear front lines 😉
I think as much as Eddie's decision is understandable, it is the anger of the Schumachers, because Ralf definitely was the faster driver than Hill - not only in this race, and he was robbed his first win. Maybe he should just have given a fuck about the team orders, but he managed to obey and maybe in the end this was a bigger plus than an early first win - everybody could see anyway that he was faster and would have won in an open race.
And furthermore it was the right decision for Ralf to leave Jordan and move on to Williams, which got BMW engines only one year later, and Williams surely gave him more victories than Jordan would have, beginning their downfall from 2000. It was a bad time to win in F1 from 1999-2004 when you didn't drive for Ferrari or McLaren, with Williams being the next best option at least from 2001.
Overall I think Ralf is quite underrated as a driver, whereas I believe he is quite on par with a Gerhard Berger for example, who has scored a similar number of wins and equally no F1 title. There have to be some very good drivers who will never win the championship, otherwise the competition would be to bad and winning the title would be worth less.
Eddie needed it to save his team, it was business. Ferrari at Austria had no reason whatsoever to shaft Rubens who had been faster than Michael on merit virtually all weekend and needed a confidence boost as he’d not been on it in the previous races. Michael had already won 6 of those opening 7 races and had a healthy lead in by far the fastest car. It was completely unnecessary versus Eddie’s reasonings.
This is the part that people miss out and just claim negative bias against Schumacher.
eddie can do whatever he likes. HE OWNS THE TEAM. everyone else, WORKS FOR EDDIE. in any case, Hill was way ahead of eveyrone else till the safety car.
This guy gets it!
Petition to change the British national anthem to *QUEEN*
Nah, the Imperial March
We now know for surr you are british 😂😂
Black Country accent not enough of a giveaway?
As someone would say you can't beat the Irish out of Eddie Jordan. But I am surprised not one person seems to remember that there was another Irish driver that named Tommy Byrne that tried to get to F1 many years ago but there was alot of rasicm because they didn't like Irish people or they didn't like the way he spoke or something. This was the time when F1 and FIA including the teams used and abused drivers for testing the F1 cars but not promising the drive
He also had a shit work ethic. Thought his talent was enough.
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Definitely Maybe > Parklife. Sue me 🤷♂️
Parklife isn’t even the best Blur album.
Eddie Jordan is a bit of a hypocrite. When working as a pundit he criticised Ferrari for their team orders yet wasn't above doing it himself. He also came across as very bitter still at Michael for ditching Jordan back in 91.
Difference was EJ did it to save the team.
Eddie truly is a hypocrite. Since 1998 whenever another team does a controversial team orders situation, Eddie is quick to criticise them. But then whenever people remind him of Spa 98 he goes very quiet or make a terribly poor excuse.
No he doesn't he flat out states why he did it because was not going to lose out on an easy 1-2 finish.
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Yeah... contradicting himself more like!
@@kevinprior3549 So you are saying losing his sponsors if the drivers crashed (as happened the previous year) "fighting" for the win is a "poor excuse"?
David Coulthard slowed down....in the racing lane in the wet.....i mean you can't complain if you are schumacher, considering, the monaco quali, hitting hill, villeneuve in Jerez, and driving frentzen off the road, even as a ferrari fan he deserved that one
IF Micheal wasn't dumb enough to slam into the back of Coultard's car on lap 25 this wouldn't be a video now.
Aiden, as an American I pray you realize the beauty of your National Anthem compared with ours. Should an American driver/team win again, I pity the band members required to perform our 19 octave ranging, stitched together, melody called “The Star Spangled Banner.”
Nothing compares to "Il Canto degli Italiani" after a Ferrari win in Monza. ;)
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Eddie Jorden is always worth paying attention to!