Mouthwashing (Fully-Voiced)
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- Jello and Savvy readthrough this indie game everyone has been talking about
warning, this game includes mature and dark themes and plot beats including:
-violence, brutality
-SA & pregnancy related horror
-medical trauma, gore, body horror, cannibalism, vomiting
-alcohol & drug abuse
-self harm/suicide
-fatphobia
-flashing lights/colors,
-jumpscares
-segments of de-reality
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Also another fun thing about the bodily autonomy angle - Jimmy violates every single other person's bodily autonomy in some major way over the course of the story.
He rapes Anya and leaves her pregnant. He poisons Swansea and then ties him up before shooting him. He emotionally manipulates Daisuke into going along with a plan he's not comfortable with and putting himself in extreme - ultimately fatal - danger. He carries Curly around like a sack of meat, shoves pills down his throat, and cannibalizes him (and apparently forces him to autocannibalize).
He is the one responsible for the wreck that injured and ultimately got everyone killed. He poses his crewmates' corpses around the table like a sick parody of a birthday party. He puts a critically mutilated Curly into a cryopod, either to be found and forced to live out his days as a physically and mentally scarred quad amputee or to run out that twenty year timer and die a slow, lonely death in space.
Jimmy taking away power from others and breaking their boundries seems to be a common theme.He is really a moron.
the worst part is,, he's the only person left untouched
dont worry ima be the one to touch him😈
There's also the birthday party scene where Jimmy deliberately twists Curly's motivations and puts words in his mouth to sow distrust among the rest of the crew.
i think the toughest pill to swallow about this game is jimmy still truly never takes responsibility. he is hiding everything up until the moment his arc ends.
Anya failed to get into medical school eight times, but she managed to keep Curly alive with very limited and dwindling resources. As for her being unable to stomach giving Curly his pills, there was also the fact that she was pregnant and more prone to throwing up.
And, from another theory, she’s doing it to boost yimpy’s ego, making him less likely to get violent on her or others.
Apparently, raw meat is also a smell that a lot of pregnant women can’t stand. Makes them nauseous.
@@mysterious.kelpie "Yimpy," 😭
I saw other people saying that she was struggling with it because of the violation of consent.
@@mysterious.kelpieyea, she was prolly terrified of jiabortion and didnt want others or herself to get hurt by irritating j diddy again
I like how the first comment is “I hate jimmy”
As it should be
I like how the top comment is your comment in reference to another less popular comment regarding a user's hatred of Jimothy.
100% deserved lol
I just said the truth
@@aCatNamedGarbage all my friends hate Co-Pilot Jambalaya
Obligatory "Im sorry Saavy had to voice Jimmy, that had to be the hardest part of this stream" comment
I thought it was kind of him that he jumped on Jimmy before Jello could, and then had jello take Curly.
Can’t express how disappointed I was that this wasn’t just Jello trying out 50 different kinds of mouthwash.
Petition for this to be the next video?
That would be actual torture. His teeth were hurting after so many lemonades. 50 kinds of mouthwash? That sounds like a chemical burn.....from a spiral perm
@@angelpanda928 The physical pain of that much ethanol contact would be way higher than any potential gains lmao
@@Stage-Fryte especially since using too much mouthwash would have the adverse effect of actually making your dental health worse due to the alcohol drying your mouth
I think Jello asking what Curly is supposed to sound like and them making Sawnsea british is VERY funny because in a Q&A the creator said that Curly was originally intended to be british and that while scrapped there is apparently a few hints of it in his remaining dialogue
yeah his line "now i'll go bonkers looking for it. cheers" is so english lmao
@batabidsby the time he said that and the fact that Swansea is a place in wales, I’ve kinda just decided fuck it they all British
@JDT-LoadsamoneyJimmy had a weird line during Curly’s bday party where he said “I daresay I look forward to it” so you might be onto something
I do love that during this game you play as the captain.
The person with that role may change.
But you are the captain.
I hate jimmy
true fuck jamboree
We all do
dont we all?
Welcome to the club
Me and my homies hate Jimmy.
I don't think anyone is really defending Curly for how he handled the situation. Instead people (me included) understood his mindset on why he ended up trying to be this peacekeeper rather than protect Anya properly.
Curly's the type of man that believes the same thing Anya coincidentally believes, "Our worst moments don't make us monsters." he never not cared about Anya, and I'm sure Anya knew that his heart was in the right place hence why near the beginning, Anya still calls him Captain. His fatal mistake was that he believed Jimmy could be redeemed. His care for all of his crew equally was not only his greatest strength, but also his greatest weakness because one of his crew members consists of a man that is far beyond redemption the moment he stepped on that ship.
And worst of all, Jimmy knew this and used that fact to his advantage. Jimmy knew that Curly is more than willing to be the scape goat for his actions, he knew that the last thing Curly would ever do is abandon his friend for even something as major as sexual assault. And even worst, He knows that because they have been friends for seemingly a while, he knows that by doing this terrible thing, despite the average person bragging about how quick they would drop their friend for doing such a terrible thing coupled with beatings and insults, Not a lot of people actually have the stomach to do that. Instead they would act almost no different than Curly acted:
Shock, then Denial, and they are more than likely going to defend their friend because while we see an unhinged monster, they see a friend that they know more than we do. they've seen things none of us have seen. and if we saw them way back then, if we knew them like how they knew, we wouldn't be so hostile. and they are partly right. and in my opinion, it makes Curly the most human character out of the entire cast.
Curly isn't just an asshole enabler, he was another one of Jimmy's victims that made the terrible choice of being too generous to an irredeemable monster and letting him do the things he did because he did not believe he was capable of such a horrible thing.
Was he still in the wrong, 100% yes. but does it make him a terrible captain? if so, then he would've never token responsibility for his (and Jimmy's) actions by making mangling himself in order to try and save his crew from instant death.
Couldn’t have said it better myself 🙂↕️
Legit said everything ✨
You're right, but it doesn't matter. A lot of people wouldn't have the stomach to stop Jimmy, but as the captain it is still Curly's responsibility to do so. Regardless of the circumstances, Curly shouldn't have given Jimmy any forgiveness after what he did to Anya. In being complicit after that he shares in the blame, even if it's unfair to expect him to act any differently.
@ I never said he was blameless. But If anything, Curly shouldn’t be the one to stop him since Curly is also a victim of Jimmy in the form of a toxic friendship. Just confronting Jimmy would result in a high chance that Jimmy would just gaslight him into submission. Weather he beats him up, grabs him and shoves him in the Cryo pod. No matter what Curly would have done, the results would’ve ended pretty much the same.
Realistically, the best choice was to not risk the chance, let someone else deal with Jimmy and focus your energy on Anya, the victim that needs support.
You’re right. It’s hard to stomach dealing with a long time friend. But Captain or not, responsibility or not, dealing with a monster like Jimmy while Curly was still trying to process the fact that he’s a monster is the one responsibility he shouldn’t worry about for the sake of his own well being.
It’s not just Jimmy’s well being that he should drop, it’s Jimmy all together.
@bannerlee9590 That's the problem with Jimmies though. Dealing with Jimmy WILL hurt Curly's well-being, because Curly wants to believe in Jimmy. But as the captain, Curly is the one who has to lay down the law and keep Jimmy away from Anya for the rest of the trip, because the crew's safety is his responsibility.
It's unfair to expect Curly to actually behave that way, and it's not his fault that he feels sympathy with Jimmy. But he HAS to deal with Jimmy, regardless of whether or not it's fair, and by failing to do so he shares responsibility for Jimmy's actions after that point. He should have dealt with him immediately, he could have told the rest of the crew and asked for help, but instead he did nothing, and allowed Jimmy to get away with what he did without any consequences.
During the post-game discussion, hearing you all talk about how Curly is very much part of the problem and involved in that "take responsiblity" message too was a breath of fresh air, since so many people seem not to recognize that bit. I think there's a very clear reason why a guy like Curly was able to carve out some measure of success for himself at a company like Pony Express (a company that has posters saying HR complaints will penalize everyone), and it's absolutely because his own actions align with the company's best interests. He's a "don't rock the boat" kind of guy who isn't willing to take any steps that would have actually helped Anya until he is left no longer able to do much of anything at all.
He's also the far too common type of guy who will say, "Well he's my friend, and he's a good guy," rather than going to his friend and saying, "Hey, wtf, dude‽ That's super not okay!"
I think a big thing that Jello missed out on for his first experience, which definitely wasn't intentional on Savvy and Oz's part, but Savvy voicing Jimmy in the opening segment robbed Jello of the intention that you're supposed to think it was Curly who steered the ship to crash until you get to the Jimmy reveal. And Savvy voicing him and making it clear to Jello who was ACTUALLY in the cockpit heavily dampened that reveal, and let Jello know that Jimmy was lying from the get-go.
Oh, and another thing: Dragonbreath X is 14% ethanol. The weakest effective level for common mouthwash sold is 18% ethanol, and the max found in more powerful mouthwash brands can be as much as 26%. The whole point of Dragonbreath X is that it has a low alcohol content and a high sugar content, so they're not just shipping mouthwash, they're shipping really shitty mouthwash.
Hey who voiced who because I forgot and now I am getting confused
@@GhostToast-wh8to Jello voiced Curly and Daisuke, Savvy voiced Jimmy and Swansea, and Oz voiced Anya. The player is supposed to think that Curly crashed the ship until you get near the end when you play as Curly and hear the alarm go off and find Jimmy injured near the cockpit, and he admits he set the ship to crash. The game does this by having the opening text use Curly's text color, so Savvy voicing the opening, and then using the same voice for Jimmy let Jello know immediately that Jimmy was lying to the crew about who crashed the ship. That's what I meant by Jello having a compromised first experience.
My favorite part of this game is absolutely the find disinfected sequence
If you didn’t catch on about the symbolism
Hiding from the blind horse beast is major symbolism for Jimmy trying to hide being an absolute garbage person from pony express
The company he works for
It may be blind but it hears practically everything you do
Not only that, but it's symbolism for something else Jimmy fears. What else is blind but can hear you? *_An Unborn Baby._*
The discussion at the end of the stream is super cool and i deepy appreciate it
a lot of the streamers i watched just went "wow this game is upsetting" and end stream, but it shows that you all care about the game because you gave it time to parse it and criticize the bits you liked and didn't its neat
jay from the kubz scouts did an amazing gameplay where he talks about it after he played and pointed out about anya and stuff
@@sodapopworks550 Oh, I didn't know that. I'll check it out, thanks :)
@@KitKat-sv9qp np :3
@@sodapopworks550 I was just gonna mention Jay's video
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I think a slightly tweaked reading of Anya not giving Curly the meds is less of an active refusal to partake in robbing him of his bodily autonomy, and more of an active trauma trigger. I believe she cited being afraid of the gagging noises he made throwing her off.
I’m honestly not thrilled with the fandom interpretation that Anya is just nervous by nature and that’s what makes her a poor nurse.
When she refused to perform Jimmy’s psych evaluation, she wasn’t unequiped to do her job. She was advocating for her own safety by avoiding Jimmy. She didn’t feel safe being alone in a room with a man who was outwardly sexually harassing her.
I think Anya’s characterization ties a lot into the thing about people’s “worst moments”. Our view of her is warped by both Jimmy’s PoV and the circumstances she’s in. We can’t say she’s just nervous by nature when we only see how she acts in an immensely stressful situation.
@@axolotlanarchy5958 Yeah, like she seems pretty alright in the scenes from Curley's perspective or when Swansea or Daisuke are there too. It's just when she's alone with Jimmy.
God that dead pixel scene. It was already really good even before I knew the proper context for it, it has such good ambiance but WOW. Once you know what those 2’s deal is it’s everywhere. It’s always in the back of my mind. You can hear it leak into every interaction, it’s so smart.
49:07 The collective reactions to cutting the cake is sending me
the fact that they all got so upset about that and then said absolutely nothing when it was curly's leg
I mean, that motion actually makes sense for cutting through a leg
49:17 HE CUTS THE CAKE LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT REPRESENTS JIMMY CANNIBALISING HIS WORDS.
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AND the act of him literally eating Curly. I literally only just put this together after watching the gameplay again. This is such a good game
I mean I think it would be difficult from a game design point to design two different cutting actions and still have them resonate as so visceral a callback
@holisticVigilante yeah, I think it being the same animation makes sense on a couple levels.
Convenient for the devs and makes sense in the story.
I also like an idea I saw that the cake is just that fucking dense and shitty that you have to cut it like it's a well-done steak.
@S0RGEx that would also make sense
Spoilers but I doubt it matters.
One reading I want to bring to light is that the reason Curly starts laughing when you take the gun is because *Anya was right*, Jimmy WOULD end up taking the gun. Did a whole lot worse than that though. He probably finds it funny how Jimmy taking the gun is the least of her worries.
Less a, "This situation is funny," laugh, and more of a, "This situation is so incredibly fucked and I'm literally incapable of crying or doing anything to fix it," laugh
@ oh yeah no, he doesn’t find it funny in like, a “haha that’s hilarious” but like, “in a cosmic sort of way”
"I hope this hurts"
I dont know why but something about that phrase just resonates with me
I (THEORY THEORY SPECULATION) think it’s coming from Jimmy and is a bit of guilt seeping through. I hope this hurts. I hope I am hurt. Because then I am the victim. Then everyone will ignore the problem (me being toxic) because I am hurt. You wouldn’t punch down when I am hurt right? Because then you’re a bad person. Y’know, instead of being better and improving yourself. It’s a get out of jail free card a bit. Idk though, just my 2 centa
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I really appreciate you mentioning a little how 'fandomified' this game is in the community and on social media. I hope someone makes a video essay specifically about this soon. It really grinds my gears to see how people misrepresent the game, woobify Curly and focus on the 'toxic yaoi' (how can you ship a rapist, like what), overshadowing the themes of the game. Or ship Anya with Curly or make her keep the baby and raise it with him. Like, that's insane to me? People are used to turning everything they like into a comfort media or a comfort character, reducing the original text to something completely different for their pleasure. Game: depicts how some male characters dismiss/enable the sexual abuse faced by a woman. Fandom: focuses on the guys and dismisses the sexual abuse faced by the woman character. Life imitates art...
And I'm not going to be a morality police in a fandom because stuff like this is inevitable, it just bums be out how little media literacy there is, or in some cases, people simply don't care.
For real I was like looking for animatics about this game focused on Anya cuz I figured she's primed for loads of fan content expanding & exploring her character but all the animatics are like OBSESSED with Curly and/or Jimmy. Which is bizarre cuz they get the whole damn game to be explored? Why not make your fanart explore ANY of the other crew mates? Especially like Anya but honestly Daisuke has a lot of unexplored stuff too.
It’s totally a thing, though what’s stuck out to me is the fandom angle to… ‘cancelling’ Jimmy? As in, people refusing to say his name and pretending as if he doesn’t exist/complaining he appears in fanart and so on as if he was like, a member of a friend group that turned out to be a pest, not a fictional character, it’s odd
@arnust7113 I mean. I don't think anybody was expecting anyone who knows like, *anything* about this game to like him or want to make content about the rapist character 😭 also, I never thought those name jokes and apologizing to people for having to draw Jim were serious, they all had a sort of joking tone to them /nm
(Unless there *are* people genuinely pissed at others acknowledging he exists, which is its own separate thing that I agree with you on. You can't ignore a part of a story just cuz YOU don't like it)
@@starfinney6308 female characters are always ignored. especially by the kind of people that play this game and start screaming about yaoi.
@@rasp-passiontea8525 it's hard to tell what lvl folks are engaging w/ that sorta thing tbh. Like is it tongue in cheek? Sincere? I feel like it is more than likely a mix. That's not even addressing the way in which irony & sarcastic stuff on the internet especially can loop back around & become sincere unintentionally.
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Part of why I love Mouthwashing so much is because of how human and real all the characters feel. A lot of people in the fandom want to say Curly "stood by and did nothing" or "allowed everything to happen," or even that he deserved what happened to him. And it's like, I get being upset by his inaction and "don't rock the boat" attitude, but how many people do you know like that IRL? How would a lot of people react to accusations that their best friend (especially since it's implied Jimmy has manipulated Curly on some level) is a rapist? How many people are stuck in dead-end jobs and feel like they have to just keep the peace and not think too much about ethics because their paycheck depends on it?
There's so much this game has to say about human nature, about corporations chewing people up and spitting out their shells when they're done with you, and it manages to have what I think is a very relatable story about very real-feeling people even in a fantastical setting like a spaceship.
This is probably the first time I’ve heard burnt Curly sound less high pitched and more like BTAS Two Face…I love that direction with the voice
I've heard a lot of people agree that the pacing of the final section drags a bit. I do think the spectacle of the sequence and disorientation of being in Jimmy's crumbling mind is worth it, though the fail states can make it frustrating.
Relieved about the discussion at the end. First thing i saw about this game was a comment on jimmy being an awful person, then started seeing fandom type edits and cute fanart of it, and the juxtaposition struck me as odd but i hadnt seen the game yet. Now that i have, im very glad to feel like im not insane to thinking the reaction was really weird
I really liked the graveyard fight. I thought it was really clever. Spoilers btw.... It's essentially Jimmy who has Swansea tied up trying to justify why he has to shoot him. "I was mourning the loss of Daisuke," (your in a graveyard specifically honoring Daisuke) "then Swansea comes out of nowhere and tries to kill me" (Swansea stalks you from behind and tries to take you out.) "I had to shoot him. It was self defense" (at all times you have the gun. the encounter only ends if you shoot him.) Twice, but I think that is so you get the point before moving on. It could have easily been dialogue on a screen. But you played it out without text. Very clever.
Come to think of it, I don't even think Swansea ever came after jimmy with an axe all. It was jimmy who came after Swansea with the gun in the first place.
Because after Jimmy grabs the gun, the game tries to paint Swansea as this crazed axe wielding maniac who charges jimmy with the axe. No matter how you spin it, that doesn't sound like Swansea.
@@Toxicpixels23 swansea said himself nothing matters anymore and jimmy could get in the cryo pod, why would he turn around and try to kill jimmy if there's no point?
i think he was sitting in the dining table chair, drinking his mouthwash (as seen by the bottle next to his corpse in the cutting-curlys-leg-scene) and then jimmy shot him, cuz it makes sense if you line up swansea's monologue scene and the table (that along with him not being tied up in the monologue)
@@Toxicpixels23I kept thinking it didn't make sense that Jimmy got to the cockpit after he supposedly charges after you. That makes so much more sense tbh
@@pokkiheart Jimmy said himself that "Wallowing doesn't suit you, Swansea." But he does. That's how he deals with stress. He doesn't get angry or violent. He gets bitter and drunk.
"Hey, this creature can't see you, but it can hear you! Try not to run!"
Jello, the first couple of times: 🎶 How bout I do anyway? 🎶
My favorite scene of this game is Swansey's monologue and how Poll interrupts Jimmy when he's trying to quote Anya after everything he did to her and never took responsibility for and calls his ass out for only caring about Curly
coming straight from a reddit post that talks about how we can't condemn Curly because we don't know his intentions or motives, as if his intentions mattered when he
a) didn't believe Anya (as exemplified when he asks her "Who could you-?" when she tells him she's pregnant with Jimmy's rape baby)
b) did NOTHING to protect Anya (like at least moving her stuff into the medbay so she could lock the bloody door)
i think the game does a fair job at teaching about rape culture, but fan interactions also show how deeply ingrained this shit is in people, where you have to explain to them that doing nothing when your subordinate comes to you to tell you she was raped by another guy on the sip is enabling more rape ("i didn't get in trouble, so it's okay to continue")
what does item a have to do with not believing anya? he tried to confront jimmy so he had to have believed her
Where did it imply Curly didn't believe Anya? He tried to talk to Jimmy after Anya revealed she was pregnant to him and eventually told Jimmy herself
*Protagonist tricks someone into drinking medical alcohol*
Close enough, welcome back Inspector Brent Hannigan from The Mystery of the Druids.
Pity enough, I 'ave my stuff stolen an' the coppers do nothin' abou' it.
(Genuinely my first thought I'm glad someone else had it too.)
Now that you mention it, Jimmy has about the same level of empathy as Brent Hannigan...
@@MoffMuppet Not quite.
Brent does what he thinks he needs to to do something he wants to.
He's not actively malicious, he doesn't quite seem to be able to hate.
While Jimmy is actively antagonistic towards most everyone.
Absolutely dying to know what that expired discord link was concerning media literacy! Also one thing that the discussion of Anya's reaction to Curly's lack of autonomy made me reconsider: I didn't think that the sounds Curly made when taking his medicine were that bad, but thinking of them again after learning about what happened to Anya, you can understand why they'd be so triggering.
especially when its the same person doing it 😕
1:01:06 chat asking when someone’s gonna draw Swansea in detailed Jordan’s 😭😭
Experiencing this for the first time, it’s like. Yyyyeah, I can see where people are finding toxic yaoi, my brain is also mush like that, but also? I don’t think that actually suits the way Curly is constructed
Curly pays lip service to things he knows he should while not actually acting on it or WANTING to act on it. The status quo is right for him, and rocking the boat could upset that, but I don’t think he’s conscious of that fact. He’s coming from a place of privilege and simply doesn’t see the point in making any changes. He cannot see things are wrong unless it’s right in front of him, and he’s not thinking about maintaining his position because it doesn’t occur to him that it COULD change. He’s not by any means the top of the food chain. He’s a crab that’s most of the way out of the bucket at best. He’s not especially victimized aside from by capitalism during the scenes we play as him. And then he becomes narratively subhuman because he’s horribly horribly injured and disabled. He gets a taste of the other side, as it were, and we never learn specifically how he feels about it, because he cannot speak. He has lost personhood and as such has lost the right to autonomy and the right to so much as have an opinion. Consider yourself lucky we’re keeping you alive, now shut up so we can keep you locked away where we can ignore you. And even beyond that point, he’s the one that ultimately gets the pod. Not because of pity or necessity or being the best odds or whatever else. Just because he’s still the captain. People of status get to retain that privilege even when they lessen in means. Jimmy still sees Curly as holding some manner of divine right and righteousness by virtue of being the highest-status crew member. He’s not here for Jimmy no matter their connection. That’s not in any way his purpose
I assumed when hearing Curly laugh that he was mocking Jimmy for "taking the responsibility" for the first time by taking the gun, that seems to be the theme going on with him and that being a moment when Jimmy no longer backtracks from it
Not jimmy at the end just walking like he was a vouge model💀😭🙏
I love jimmy…as a written character. Bravo
I'd been genuinely curious about Jello's thoughts on this game, as I remember him saying he prefers horror games that are frightening in retrospect (not his exact words, just summarizing them in my own words.) so I was wanting to see if he'd enjoy this one. I'll take "It's alright" as a pretty good response, haha!
Spoilers ahead, be warned.
Absolutely love that the only two characters you play as are Curly and Jimmy, setting up the obvious expectation that the beginning crash is you playint as Curly. Because obviously the captain would be the one in control, right? And he's injured, that must have happened when he crashed it, right? It's not the most shocking twist that Jimmy was the one who crashed it, but it's still a good bait-and-switch, it sets up the obvious fake answer well, but not so well that the truth doesn't make sense anymore.
The most jello to play this game and go "it's alright"
What do you people want from me
@@JelloPlaysVideoGames2 billion dollars please
@@africkingupsidedownmountai7362 Ok (hands you a wet rat)
@@JelloPlaysVideoGames (swallows it whole like a ball python)
@@africkingupsidedownmountai7362
"You still owe me another 1.8 billion dollars, Jello."
Do you think jimmy is not taking the psych evals seriously because he doesn't care about them? Or because he wants the pony express to read things like "I find myself sexually attracted to cartoon horses" and think he can plead insanity in the court of law?
I think it's an extension of the abuse of Anya. It might have started with makinfg her feel uncomfortable by saying those things pushing her boundaries and then culminated in what I read as repeated assault.
I agree with the other comment. I also think it's kind of clever way of abstracting what Jimmy did to Anya. In the beginning he's seeing visions of malformed versions of Polle. It's the "thing he's running from" or "the thing he's trying to solve". Something of a sexual nature.
Y’all are such good voice actors goddamn
Jello asking "is this a horror game?" Reminded me of Dan during DDLC "Is this a horror?"
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The graveyard scene is there becaue Jimmy really has convinced himself that not only was he on the defense, but Swansea was tough to bring down.
They easily could have conveyed that without a full traditional boss fight, tho
1:05:15 Nah that Maria Impression was SPOT. ON.
Also Legitimately, Chat what the HELL with all the spoilers!?!?!? This is almost the worst it's EVER been! >:(
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As someone who has seen *1* animation meme about curly and Anya and this. Heres my thoughts.
It is really interesting. Its good about show dont tell. Anya is clearly uncomfortable and deteriorating. Everyone is deteriorating in different ways. The isolation is getting to all of them and accentuating their flaws. Jimmy is a piece of shit, this is *not* about toxic yaoi. Like, curly is a people pleaser in the worst way, thats why he's too nice. And the way he immediately knew who Anya was talking about. There are 3 other people on the ship who are on staff who have a peen, and yet he *knew*.
So he knew that jimmy wasnt a safe person, and yet he still stands up for him. He says "ill take care of it" he just goes up to jim and goes " you can count on me." Then walks away. Not even confronting him about the *sexual harassment* that happened.
All of this is really interesting to look into. I can see now how this game got so popular
Sirs madames destinguished beings this is no toxic yaoi if this could be even considered yaoi it would be nuclear Yaoi get the hell in the hasmat suit and evacuate the area imidiately
"Toxic yaoi between Curly and Jimmy" like... I'm not here to ick anyone's kinks but how do you even play a game like this and have any desire to see any kind of shipping with any of the characters in it??????
@@KittyNoodlesPPC fr. The only ones i can kind of see is Anya/Daisuke and Daisuke/Swansea, and even those are kind of out there compared to other ships.
@bondfall0072 I can see Swansea as a paternal figure for Daisuke, so seeing them shipped is...concerning. Plus Swansea has a family, so.
Hell even the freighter kind of shipping is terrible in this game
@@jharris3110 I said i could see it, not that i condone it lol
@@catnerdadrian7601 yeah this game is entirely about a ship “sinking”
i got an ad for a pregnancy test on this video
I got an ad for painkillers.
I got an ad for mouthwash
I was kinda fooled into clicking on this stream because I thought the color of the thumbnail was actually what the game's box art looked like and I thought it was the same tone as like crow country or like R.E 4 where its like somewhat scary but a little goofy and thought "this'll be fun!" I will say, I don't think I have consumed a piece of media that has disturbed me or made me want to puke with the visuals and some of the characters more than Neon Genesis Evangelion until today!!
Jello takes the long way to Medical like every time and it’s driving me insane
Also (spoilers) -
After everything shakes out, I have to wonder if Swansea was ever intending to use the pod himself or if he was trying to keep everyone from finding out there was only one and falling into accelerated infighting. Based on how much he seems to care about Daisuke in the end I wonder if he would have been able to sacrifice him for himself. I think it also says something about Jimmy that he automatically jumps to the worst conclusion.
Edit: they totally discuss that after the fact lol oops
I personally want to believe he was planning on putting Daisuke in the pod. He seemed to not care about living so I doubt he was saving it for himself.
Jimmy VA killed this role!!! He did one of the best reads!!
you know what, close enough. welcome back drachma.
Drachma Balls.
Drachma Balls.
Jello making jokes about both touhou and homestar runner in the span of five minutes? Hell yeah I'm sold
1:34:06 is another "oh, im (character)!" moment from jello
Add it to the pile
I am in love with the voice acting in this. Especially Anya’s voice. It works so well. ❤❤❤
32:00 Hard cut to Bluey waking up. "Wow, that was a weird dream."
Alright, there have been too many analysises of the character’s psyche and symbolic plot beats, they really should have made a box fort, I personally would have unscrewed a bottle, poured it out onto the cargo floor, throw it away, get another, rinse and repeat to see how long it takes to fill up
Yeah, speaking of, what kind of a futuristic cost cutting capitalist space dystopia doesn’t have a urine/water recycling system?? I guess it could have gotten busted in the crash but STILL
Love your guys' performance. Fun playthrough of a cool game.
I'm sorry you had to play as Jimmy.
been stuck in a&e for 9 hours, so realising that there was a new stream felt sent from heavan
edit: everyone did such a good job, especially with only 3 in the cast, and this game is so interesting
Im so glad they could get Jack Black in to voice Jimmy for this session.
Im glad Vixen was able to put aside their differences. She did great as Curly.
hard cut to daisuke dead on the floor
jimblebottom x the guillotine 🌠
Canon
i love MW, i've watched it a few times but i'm still kinda chewing on it, so i've been trying to find something like this narrated so i can listen while i do other things like chores, thank you
Close your eyes, Daisuke
1:23:05 Says Jello, self proclaimed “I learned all the obvious video game tells so I predict horror games and remove all fear” guy
I said I didn't get scared, not that I'm good at puzzles.
@ ah yes, I also can never solve the ““run from the blood monster” text written in blood” puzzle, I get it
Get his ass. @@ASquared544
this is alot of horror games will put things like only for them to mean nothing mechanically. And are just poetic fluff. Thats what's jello assumed it was, and I'm sure alot of others did to.
Especially when the wording is "you cant run from it" instead of "don't run from it"
Honestly this section could easily be cut and wouldn't mean much. Just put the mouthwash under daisuke's grave.
@@VeenanNorvius correct me if im wrong but im pretty sure it's supposed to be a hallucination/represent jimmy's guilt or something
i do agree with u tho besides showing how jimmy's mind is fucked i don't see the purpose of making it a puzzle
All aboard the Jimmy Hate Train!
Help i can't unhear Curly as Jello anymore
Would you rather have curly's injuries right now or live in the mouthwash universe on the ship with them
I came in at the end of the stream and was very confused because I thought they were talking about Mouthwashing not Signalis lmao
Man great stream I am so disappointed you didn't look in the medical bag when you were looking for disinfectant for Daisuke because there's a really cool visual thing going on that you missed and I really hoping to see your reaction. Otherwise great job guys.
Game starts at 3:09
What is up? Catching the beginning for once! Super excited for whatever this is!
Spoilers for late into the game!
I often wonder why jimmy needed to go to the cockpit when he was in medical when swansea started running at him. Both of those rooms have a locked door, so why would he need to run across the ship to hide from swansea? I dont think swansea ever ran at him, and it was one of the earliest hallucinations as his psyche crumbled trying to make himself look like the hero.
This Jimmy guy seems like a bad person...
That's not how I remember pikmin starting...
Moral of the story: "Bronies ruin everything."
Yet another victim of the "why does this horror game think it needs segments where the Scary Getter Scary Gets You" curse.
"Why are you playing this again? You know what the monster looks like, you know how to avoid it, what are you getting out of this?"
(Completely deadpan) "Thrills."
i dont know how to tell the devs of these sorts of games that these awful humans are scarier than the monsters by a mile
its supposed to be scary for jimmy cuz its all in his head either cuz of his guilt (for everyone but anya) or to justify something (aka killing swansea)
@@elrow1256 Yeah but the fact that it’s supposed to be metaphorical and introspective doesn’t change the fact that it’s boring as sin
YEES ive been hoping someone would do this 🙏
2:11:05 I don't think we needed that information but I'm fine with it
LMAOOO
I do think the purpose of keeping Curly alive is the biggest part of the bodily autonomy debate. They are eating him, this is why Anya refuses to "give him painkillers" as that is when they are taking his meat. Anya won't violate his autonomy but Jimmy easily can. This also plays into the mouthwash as they are trying to wash what they are doing from their mouth.
I think Anya's refusal to give Curly painkillers is simply because forcing him to take the pills is likely reminiscent of her assault by Jimmy (hearing Curly be forced to swallow the pills would be triggering, i imagine).
I haven't seen any indication that any of the fully able-bodied crew (barring Jimmy obviously) have cannibalized Curly, so I'm curious what evidence makes you think that's the case. When Jimmy said there are two reasons for keeping Curly alive, I always thought of his reeasons being 1) "Its the morally right thing to do," and 2) "To make Curly suffer for crashing the ship," even though Jimmy knows the truth. I never considered that one of the reasons may have been to have a backup plan for when they need food, though.
Also, I believe that the mouthwash is a metaphor for Jimmy. The mouthwash has more sugar in it than actual mouthwash, which makes it counterintuitive to what should be its main priority. Jimmy's main priority as captain should've been taking care of his crew and helping lead them through their situation, dire as it was. Instead, Jimmy was focused on being the idealized version of a captain that he'd naively believed Curly's role to be, being so self-absorbed and insecure about how he's perceived as captain that his actions lead to the doomed fates of the entire crew, himself included.
There's literally nothing that implies that they were eating Curly. Daisuke says at the beginning of the game, already 2 months after the crash, that they had about 4 months of food left. At the very least the crew had enough food that they didn't have to start nibbling on one of their crewmates, especially considering nearly everyone died around that 6 month mark anyhow. Also I think it would be pretty noticeable if they started taking four daily servings off of a body. He'd last like a week or two max before dying, with or without tylenol.
spoilers:
ive seen someone in the comments of another playthrough suggest that they only kept curly alive so that they could eat him once they ran out of pony express rations - a possible reason why jimmy wanted to get into medical so bad after anya locked herself in was that he was concerned she was going to prematurely put curly out of his misery and "have all their emergency rations to herself"
man i love this fallout new vegas vault
I always dislike when people overly breakdown tropes in video games, or honestly just most media-- Like I get it, things repeat-- But constantly attempting to avoid that is also a bit goofy to me and always has been.
You fit your vision, not purposefully try to subvert things just for the sake of it-- Tropes exist and I get that, it's within our nature to pick up on patterns, but not EVERY player starts at the same place in the pattern and aren't all going to pick up on every single thing that someone who's experienced may have seen so many other places. Some of these things are people's first times seeing these things-- And constantly trying to get ahead of the hardcore and experienced, is often a quick way to fail or alienate your player base.
Just a nitpick, not even about the opinions of the story, just the observation on the genre-- As someone who's read through so much of Tropes Wikia, pretty much every single thing you can think of is a trope that's been done hundreds of times at this point in our popular media.
I'm sorry you had to voice Jimmy
Ive been WAITINGGGGG FOR U GUYSSSS
10:48 Spabgebi meaborl...
Dear god, all that i needed
I hope this hurts captain
Fun Fact: MouthWashing is actually a sequel game to How Fish Is Made
yeah, but while it has similarities, i believe this applies better to The Last One and Then Another, since it features Curly in it and his thoughts about Jimmy.
Are you guys voice actors?! This shit is so good! :OOO
I hate Jimmy and Curly for being a menace to society and a rapist on jimmy’s side, and enabling Jimmy to continue his shittiness and letting him anywhere near the cockpit on Curly’s side
@ he does in fact know that the pregnancy was caused by Jimmy, and can tell it was by force due to Anya’s general misery when she tells him about the pregnancy.
Curly may be an enabler and he definitely isn't perfect but I think he was also a victim of Jimmy's abuse as well pre-crash (mentally and maybe emotionally). Given how Jimmy talks down to him in the Curly segments and Curly implied knowing Jimmy for a long time and getting him the job and whatnot.
@@jharris3110 yes, this is important!
@@africkingupsidedownmountai7362 I've seen people say Curly wasn't a victim of Jimmy and is just as bad as Jimmy, which bothers me a bit when you look at the way Jimmy talks to him pre-crash. One thing that's stuck out to me is when he seemed concerned about Jimmy being mad after Anya told him she told Jimmy about the pregnancy, as if Jimmy's prone to lashing out verbally or whatnot when angry (like just as bad during the birthday party or maybe even worse) and Curly for the longest time probably thought "that's just Jimmy, he's angry but he's my friend and it's not _all_ bad with Jimmy" cause he's probably just...so _used_ to having to help Jimmy out of trouble in other situations outside of something like this, stuck in a ship in space with something as serious as SA (I'm so sorry for yapping about it)
Ohohoh now this will truly hurt
Hey boss.
It’s me.
Or what should I call you? Old man.
Seems a little above your pay grade.
Given all this.
I know what you think of this predicament of yours.
Poor you. Caged and misunderstood.
Polle says:
“SORRY!”
You really mean that, huh?
Wait a minute!
If all of that is true…
Why are you still so concerned with _him?_
Mouthwashing should be the baseline example for learning media literacy. It's really simple to understand yet still a lot to talk about.
where can i watch more of savvy i loved his voice sm
www.twitch.tv/eternal_savvy
anya's v/a ate
Pretty good
i dont think i much like this jimmy fellow
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