TKD is a good mix with MT.. Especially if you are tall.. very good striking. I took Karate for a bit and use a couple of Karate kicks when I spar in MT and people dont see those kicks coming. Osss!
I wouldn't say grappling is a bad idea, and the concept of mma is to combine striking and grappling styles to broaden your knowledge. I train in ITF Taekwon-do but I don't leave out other martial arts, especially traditional Ju Jitsu, judo and even bjj as they've got alot of manipulation techniques and standing takedowns. Taekwon-do could win in mma but it would be safer to learn to survive on the ground too, just as a back up plan, if they're good on their feet, take them to the ground.
Good to see sense talked on youtube, i try to ignore those ufc fans, i just think if they stay into MA's long enough and actually train they will see our points, otherwise they will move on and no need to worry about them.
@minase0906 I'm a TKD black belt, and I disargee with you, mostly because few TKD practicioners are trained in no holds barred fighting. The tools are there if you want to use them, but the problem is that TKD contests, especially Olympic ones are too rigid in their scoring system. It really causes many TKD people to only practice those kicks that will help them in competition. However, fighters like Anderson Silva use TKD in MMA, but know how to use the hands, and grappling holds as well.
You are right, i'm a practitioner and i would never fight like this in a real fight, people would criticize and say what i'm doing looks like muay thai and mma, and i'd say no it's tkd from the dojang not the competition, same as most ma's would look different outside.
@frannckopz f ue ko tenico, viste que al peleador de kick le empeso a sangrar là nariz?? por eso, pero un peleador de kick que usara bien las piernas o de MT mata a uno de TK
Wanderlei isn't really a MT guy, tough. I also don think Cung is really a TKD either, I think he does this Chinese martial arts with takedowns.. forgot the name of it though.
well check it, a sport is a sport, mma has rules, and tkd has rules in their match, but when it comes down to using it, most people want to defend themselves against two or more people, so grappling or goin on the floor won't do the work, TKD ,which is mostly offensive, kicks ass, it can defend you against two or more people. i agree with 9SoulFire9
@9SoulFire9 actually it done you can get examples from cung le who is from vietnam there is no WTF taekwondo there but ITF and Zelg Galesic from Croatia, there are another examples like Juraz.the thing is to search a little more, and not eat all that youtube shows
Does anyone know what the rules of the match were? I'm taking this is obviously semi contact. I am somewhat disappointed in the kick boxer. His guard was all over the place, you can't protect your head with your hands flapping about and there were too many missed opportunities for the kick boxer to have taken advantage over.
The thing that amuses me the ,most is when a jiu jitsu guy is getting is ass kicked by a stand up fighter so he lays down hoping the guy will grapple with him, or putting a knee on the floor in the clinch to avoid a knee to the face, and all the things you said, and that's what all the mma noobs think is the real deal, Machida is a good karate fighter though, seems to make the shotokan point sparring style work in a full fight.
@frannckopz fue ko tenico, viste que al peleador de kick le empeso a sangrar là nariz por eso, pero un peleador de kick que usara bien las piernas o de MT mata a uno de TK
@parahumanoid I think street fights are very different to what you go through in a ring - you have rules etc. and you can afford to be creative in your combinations (which implies falling). When in a tight situation where you defend urself, you have to compromise the opponent into a state where he cannot retaliate....the two are inseperable I get it. I am just saying that I disagree with your conclusion that you draw from a fall in a fight with rules
My opinion to, I like to watch a UFC fight bit i don't like how all the fans think mma is invincible, jiu jitsu is the last thing i would try to use in a real life setting with more then one person, and all the strikes used in muay thai are used in most stand up styles. and they don't realize some of the elite fighters like Anderson silva and Machida are using very commen tkd and karate style kicks, they just get convinced by joe rogans comments. glad i started when i was 7 so i wasn't convinced
@9SoulFire9 Just as misguided it is for people to critique TKD sport practitioners for fighting with their hands down, its also misguided to critique mma practitioners for fighting on the ground. At the highest levels of sport both worlds take advantage of the protection offered to them by their respective sets of rules. Its not a good or bad thing its just how the game is played. In real life its not the style but the practitioner and the correct mind set of peace and prevention that prevails
Ese de kick es un tierno, jamás el taekwondo le puede ganar al kick porque este segundo es un deporte de contacto muy duro y se concentra en lastimar con el hueso de la tibia las piernas o los brazos del oponente y los de taekwondo solo son entrenados para pegar rápido y escapar ,no están preparados para soportar los duros golpes con la huesos que pegan los de kick y hablo con conocimiento ya que soy 2 dan en taekwondo y cinturón negro en kickboxing y siempre gana el kick.
there are alot of militaries around the world who use taekwondo as a basis for their training and self defence techniques so saying it doesnt work isnt true. maybe for some people it hasnt but that is all on the person not on the martial art.
@176Aido I think exactly what I said, nothing more: falling is near equal to a loss in an aggressive street fight scenario. The other guy, although got his nose crunched, stayed solid on his two feet that that alone can go a very long way. Do me a favor, don't consider anything "clear" about me. You don't even know me, let alone how many and what kind of situations I went trough. Ever been in a knife fight? Errors (such as falling) are expensive when push comes to shove.
@pigballs911 Point Prooven good sir but isn`t it more important to train in the Martial Art you are good at which makes you happy? I don`t train TKD,Muay Thai and normal boxing because i want to beat everybody up. I have fun by training. That is what counts. And btw. it is always the fighter who is responsible for his lost or his wins not the Martial art. In fact of course there is no TKD or Kung fu in UFC, when you see the heavy weight.You have to be incredible fast to score a hit with your leg
@sanmiguelangel2010 I have sparred hong, and he is no joke. The guy hits really hard with almost no telegraphing. If you don't believe me, ask the dude with the broken nose.
@parahumanoid so u think because he fell over once he automatically loses the fight ?? well even if u do tkd u clearly nvr compete if u think thats true lol
its the art and the person but if the art doesnt full contact spar with very few rules and wrestle,that person wont be very effective against another trained man.The art defines the methods and the methods define how effective youl be.The art is therefore crucial to success.
@@RNRLIBRARY theres no protection on his nose,its just a head guard .nasal fractures take little force,I've had several and it wouldn't even stop the match if not for the blood.
@amdkickboxer It is NOT the martial art that sucks. I don`t care if its Muay thai, kick boxing, Kung fu, Karate, MMA. Its they person who is just not a good fighter. Comparing martial art styles is dumb anyway :P
man who gives a shit which style works better on the streets. unless you're soem ufc/strikforce champion, you are NOT going to be beating up 4 other dudes with your so called "superior" martial art. When you are on streets, that is where your cardio is put to the test if you see multiple guys/
Where is the knockout? Anyhow, although I practice TKD myself, in this case the TKD guy wasn't that great. He fell on his ass would have been dead meat in the street scenario. So I'm not sure I'd agree with the judge's decision here.
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Somebody needs to share this guy on fight commentary breakdowns he has been looking for decent tkd guys
TKD is a good mix with MT.. Especially if you are tall.. very good striking. I took Karate for a bit and use a couple of Karate kicks when I spar in MT and people dont see those kicks coming. Osss!
I wouldn't say grappling is a bad idea, and the concept of mma is to combine striking and grappling styles to broaden your knowledge. I train in ITF Taekwon-do but I don't leave out other martial arts, especially traditional Ju Jitsu, judo and even bjj as they've got alot of manipulation techniques and standing takedowns. Taekwon-do could win in mma but it would be safer to learn to survive on the ground too, just as a back up plan, if they're good on their feet, take them to the ground.
im enrolled with itf tae kwon do and u really need to have good balance and very strong legs
Taekwondo is where it is at
itf is the real face of TaeKwonDo .... more rough tough and deadly weapon.... dont mess up with itf guys...
Muy bien el taekwondista, buena pelea. Felicitaciones a ambos
Good work by both fighters, keep up the hard training work guys
Good fight, respect to both :)
I love it TaeKwon!!!
not a knockout..but this is awesome..good man hong ;)
Excellent stuff!!!
Good to see sense talked on youtube, i try to ignore those ufc fans, i just think if they stay into MA's long enough and actually train they will see our points, otherwise they will move on and no need to worry about them.
Cool Video - Subbed
taekwondo for ever !!!!!!
Very well said Zhuge Liang ^^
@minase0906 I'm a TKD black belt, and I disargee with you, mostly because few TKD practicioners are trained in no holds barred fighting. The tools are there if you want to use them, but the problem is that TKD contests, especially Olympic ones are too rigid in their scoring system. It really causes many TKD people to only practice those kicks that will help them in competition. However, fighters like Anderson Silva use TKD in MMA, but know how to use the hands, and grappling holds as well.
Actually my striking and MMA coach is from the original Chute Boxe from Curitiba, Wanderlei's old team. And my Jits coach is Fernando Veira. You??
you're thinking of Sanda, it's a hybrid style of various types of kung fu
@pigballs911 sure, because when you have fun, you practice a lot, when you practice a lot you get better and better. Makes sense huh?
🇬🇪T~1🇷🇺ITF👊🏻TAEKWON!!! 🙏💓🙌🌍🥋
You are right, i'm a practitioner and i would never fight like this in a real fight, people would criticize and say what i'm doing looks like muay thai and mma, and i'd say no it's tkd from the dojang not the competition, same as most ma's would look different outside.
where is the "Awesome" technical knockout?
Alguien me puede explicar por que el kickboxer se mueve como karateca?
Me parece que es practicante de Full Contact mas que de Kick Boxing.
@scarred10 You're point has merit but it's still mostly on the practitioner and wrestling isn't necessary as it is it's own art .
Nice reverse hook kick.
@frannckopz f ue ko tenico, viste que al peleador de kick le empeso a sangrar là nariz?? por eso, pero un peleador de kick que usara bien las piernas o de MT mata a uno de TK
Wanderlei isn't really a MT guy, tough. I also don think Cung is really a TKD either, I think he does this Chinese martial arts with takedowns.. forgot the name of it though.
awesome
@pigballs911
yes you`re right. But manly because UFC consist 80% of the time on groundfight. Which is not practiced in TKD or kung fu very much
well check it, a sport is a sport, mma has rules, and tkd has rules in their match, but when it comes down to using it, most people want to defend themselves against two or more people, so grappling or goin on the floor won't do the work, TKD ,which is mostly offensive, kicks ass, it can defend you against two or more people. i agree with 9SoulFire9
@9SoulFire9 actually it done you can get examples from cung le who is from vietnam there is no WTF taekwondo there but ITF and Zelg Galesic from Croatia, there are another examples like Juraz.the thing is to search a little more, and not eat all that youtube shows
where the knockout?
That man was fighting Steven Thompson
Is that Long Hoi. very good fighter
Does anyone know what the rules of the match were?
I'm taking this is obviously semi contact.
I am somewhat disappointed in the kick boxer. His guard was all over the place, you can't protect your head with your hands flapping about and there were too many missed opportunities for the kick boxer to have taken advantage over.
itf dont use body pads very often im a h.brown belt in itf taekwondo and i spar all the time u get hit it hurts but it conditions u well
The thing that amuses me the ,most is when a jiu jitsu guy is getting is ass kicked by a stand up fighter so he lays down hoping the guy will grapple with him, or putting a knee on the floor in the clinch to avoid a knee to the face, and all the things you said, and that's what all the mma noobs think is the real deal, Machida is a good karate fighter though, seems to make the shotokan point sparring style work in a full fight.
people people it dont mater what martshal arts it is its who trains you.
@frannckopz fue ko tenico, viste que al peleador de kick le empeso a sangrar là nariz por eso, pero un peleador de kick que usara bien las piernas o de MT mata a uno de TK
@parahumanoid I think street fights are very different to what you go through in a ring - you have rules etc. and you can afford to be creative in your combinations (which implies falling). When in a tight situation where you defend urself, you have to compromise the opponent into a state where he cannot retaliate....the two are inseperable I get it. I am just saying that I disagree with your conclusion that you draw from a fall in a fight with rules
you see the weakness of taekwondo poor hand teechniques at closerange
Or you see the weakness of taekwondo poor hand techniques at closerange by Hong Looi in 2009*
Or you've underestimated the power of the ITF Taekwon-Do here.
@@typicalchineseguy5818 yeah he did
My opinion to, I like to watch a UFC fight bit i don't like how all the fans think mma is invincible, jiu jitsu is the last thing i would try to use in a real life setting with more then one person, and all the strikes used in muay thai are used in most stand up styles. and they don't realize some of the elite fighters like Anderson silva and Machida are using very commen tkd and karate style kicks, they just get convinced by joe rogans comments. glad i started when i was 7 so i wasn't convinced
@9SoulFire9 Just as misguided it is for people to critique TKD sport practitioners for fighting with their hands down, its also misguided to critique mma practitioners for fighting on the ground. At the highest levels of sport both worlds take advantage of the protection offered to them by their respective sets of rules. Its not a good or bad thing its just how the game is played. In real life its not the style but the practitioner and the correct mind set of peace and prevention that prevails
Me encanto el vídeo pero no hay knockaut
GO TAEKWONDO!!!!!!!
Muay Thai? Umm where?
Ese de kick es un tierno, jamás el taekwondo le puede ganar al kick porque este segundo es un deporte de contacto muy duro y se concentra en lastimar con el hueso de la tibia las piernas o los brazos del oponente y los de taekwondo solo son entrenados para pegar rápido y escapar ,no están preparados para soportar los duros golpes con la huesos que pegan los de kick y hablo con conocimiento ya que soy 2 dan en taekwondo y cinturón negro en kickboxing y siempre gana el kick.
Gotta love straight hook kicks to the face. ITF style TKD for the win :D
there are alot of militaries around the world who use taekwondo as a basis for their training and self defence techniques so saying it doesnt work isnt true. maybe for some people it hasnt but that is all on the person not on the martial art.
El boxeador bajaba la guardia demaciado
@176Aido
I think exactly what I said, nothing more: falling is near equal to a loss in an aggressive street fight scenario. The other guy, although got his nose crunched, stayed solid on his two feet that that alone can go a very long way. Do me a favor, don't consider anything "clear" about me. You don't even know me, let alone how many and what kind of situations I went trough. Ever been in a knife fight? Errors (such as falling) are expensive when push comes to shove.
KNOCKOUT??????
technical knockout [broken nose]
@pigballs911 Point Prooven good sir but isn`t it more important to train in the Martial Art you are good at which makes you happy? I don`t train TKD,Muay Thai and normal boxing because i want to beat everybody up. I have fun by training. That is what counts. And btw. it is always the fighter who is responsible for his lost or his wins not the Martial art. In fact of course there is no TKD or Kung fu in UFC, when you see the heavy weight.You have to be incredible fast to score a hit with your leg
@sanmiguelangel2010 I have sparred hong, and he is no joke. The guy hits really hard with almost no telegraphing. If you don't believe me, ask the dude with the broken nose.
Go find "tarung derajat" you'll find the real martial art.
Eso no es kickboxing , es fullcontact , odio que no sepan diferenciarlos
@parahumanoid so u think because he fell over once he automatically loses the fight ?? well even if u do tkd u clearly nvr compete if u think thats true lol
I only have to say Tomaz Barada, if you dont know him go and search on google kid
its the art and the person but if the art doesnt full contact spar with very few rules and wrestle,that person wont be very effective against another trained man.The art defines the methods and the methods define how effective youl be.The art is therefore crucial to success.
He broke his nose with protection... Imagine if he wouldn't have had it,
@@RNRLIBRARY theres no protection on his nose,its just a head guard .nasal fractures take little force,I've had several and it wouldn't even stop the match if not for the blood.
@@scarred10 Look at his foot.
@@RNRLIBRARY it makes no difference what he has on the foot the result is exactly the same, no worse or better.
@@scarred10 It's way worse... I don't know if you knew but bones are harder than cork.
@pigballs911 U do Martial Arts? U got respect?
itf tkd is one of the best styles there is dont believe me? search itf tkd vs (any style u wanna see) itf kicks the shit out of other styles
nice but wow itf dont evan where hogus 'body guards' :o i do wtf and ima blue belt
I do ITF. Closer to karate. WTF more for point sparring
I think it was a TKO
no armies bar korea use it and no armies actually spend much time on any unarmed self defense.
FATALITY
this in not kickboxing ...
the kick boxers stance is wrong - he is going one sided
@amdkickboxer
It is NOT the martial art that sucks. I don`t care if its Muay thai, kick boxing, Kung fu, Karate, MMA. Its they person who is just not a good fighter.
Comparing martial art styles is dumb anyway :P
@Jay5778 LOL! I don't know what ITF TKD you're doing dude, but there aint no brown belt! noob
Iaka rules
y cual es el ko??????? que pelea mas orrible
The taekwondo guy has much less physique and therefore fights much better in comparison
A collection of videos for the tkd critics, and the fans. /playlist?list=PL0D39067A4F6864D1&feature=plcp
Itf wins :D
TKD ITF is the shit
there is no knockout...
da vergüenza esto!!!
man who gives a shit which style works better on the streets. unless you're soem ufc/strikforce champion, you are NOT going to be beating up 4 other dudes with your so called "superior" martial art. When you are on streets, that is where your cardio is put to the test if you see multiple guys/
Where is the knockout? Anyhow, although I practice TKD myself, in this case the TKD guy wasn't that great. He fell on his ass would have been dead meat in the street scenario. So I'm not sure I'd agree with the judge's decision here.
ufc is overrated.
As overrated as it gets haha.