This guy is able to to 30 people's worth of work. Teach us how you plan and work on your projects! Anything from to-do lists till deployment would be amazing
His stack is severely constrained by the limitations and costs of the managed service providers that he's using. 99% of the time what ends up happening in the medium to long term is that developers will have to be onboarded to implement optimizations and solutions that aren't possible/feasible in this current stack. Take algolia for instance, it could work in the prototyping phase but once the ball gets rolling and you have continuous activity on the site costs will soar and you'll be contacting elasticsearch developers to rewrite your search functionality. These managed services aren't just costly but they actively limit the kind of functionality you can develop and ship out. Sure this adds complexity and is a time sink. But so does rewriting vast stretches of your software/solution a few months after shipping the solution. These managed service providers are not a good idea for anyone thinking seriously about building software.
@@TylerTheDestroyer Lol you're funny man. idk what u mean by 'Netflix woke'. But I will def utilise any tool to make my life easier. RUclipsrs that attach timelines to there videos don't want progress/support there own channel???????? what are you saying man. Also I'm a long time suscriber of fireship(which is irrelevant to this argument), don't why you brought that up. Also yh, 10min is a long time(why do you think fireship makes 100seconds videos???).. I may not have 10min but I still want to watch something from the video.
@@TylerTheDestroyer say I have 1hr, I can either commit to 6 10 minute videos or pick the ones that I think are more likely to have something I actually would want to hear more about. from my perspective my judgement is better than random odds to run into "something that can change your world". And also a lot of this filtering makes it so I don't waste time on something I know I don't wanna know more about or on something I already know about
Here's an idea: you should make a kind of devlog while rebuilding your site. Not only will it be easier considering you can record while actually working, but it'll be a fantastic Svelte tutorial as well. Congratulations on your baby, love your content!
In the future, I predict devs will use sophisticated neural networks to pick the optimal tech stack so they aren’t driven completely insane Edit: I told you all 😂
@@t.adhavan7946 Tailwind is nightmare. Use scss. I cannot imagine tailwind working at scale. The examples already have so much copy-paste code. CSS is the easiest thing out there since grid and flex.
Very very humbly dropping that your whole website is 100% custom made with Sass. Props to you, the very opaque, tedious, and absolutely insane, but lovely job of doing CSS custom is something I truly enjoy and respect.
"Or we could call it 'fuck it'." Absolutely gold standard humor right there. Caught me off-guard and now my sides hurt - perfect :D I have been burnt from webdev a few times because of what I want to do; but what you mentioned with Svelte Kit is amazing. Usually I got stuck with the question of "How do I transistion from SSR to CSR?" And the answer is hydration and a shitload of manual callback stacking to de-initialize a current context and re-initialize the next one when the new components load in. Its... meh... I feel like TTC (time to content) is very important. I hate waiting on websites to load their megabytes of JavaScript when all I want to do is just read an article and then bugger off. xD Thank you for showcasing those libs and frameworks!
Awesome as always, just when I was looking for the tech stack for my upgraded membership 🔥Congrats on the baby of course, exciting (and often hard) times ahead 🙌
I know this probably wasn't intentional, but this felt like a flex on just how many tools your aware of. I'm truly impressed by the breadth of your knowledge
When I decided to start learning frameworks after a year or two of NodeJS practice. I first went all out trying to learn a few popular frameworks and really making sure I understood the pros and cons of each (vue, react, svelte) At first I thought Vue was my choice, but when I realised I needed SSR nuxt was just way too confusing for me. React was already too hard for me to use SvelteKit was just perfect for my choice of coding. Glad to see some appreciation
@@newtanagmukhopadhyay4716 can you give me some pointers how you shifted to backend? I mean I'm junior frontend. Where do I start to eventually move to backend?
@@dipanjanghosal1662 I will say learn Node JS, since you're a frontend developer. You will be accustomed with javascript. Make small projects, then start making portfolios, test them, deploy them and then sit for interviews. This can be done within 6 months to a year. P.S. I switched from backend to frontend. :p
4:55 Hey, I made a tutorial on a Sticky Navbar with Tailwind and Svelte 😄 My decisions for most apps, quite a lot of overlap: 1. Svelte 2. SvelteKit 3. TypeScript 4. TailwindCSS 5. Supabase! 6. Supabase Postgres + Redis! 7. Playwright & Vitest! 8. Stripe (other notable ones: Maybe Postmark for transactional emails, ConvertKit for campaigns, Plausible for metrics)
love watching these stack vids as a noobie web dev student and just being absolutely boggled by how much is out there would love a video on the philosophy of "how to learn new techs and how MUCH or how DEEP of that new tech is necessary to learn"
As a former SQL developer, I somewhat laugh at the thought of needing Full-Text Search, as I've implemented a fairly standard SQL solution for it in the past. It's no where near as quick as something like ElasticSearch, but on data sets under 1M it will be sub-second. You just need your ingest process to tokenize all text, create a hash-table of the unique entries, and then a cross-reference table of the text Value-id to the Entity-id. Add another column to the index so that it's sorted by Attribute-id, as in the EAV model, and you will be able to perform a global search on all occurrences of text, grouped by the data source (represented by Attribute-id), or a focused search that specifies a type of data. While I appreciate the simplicity of a purpose-built solution, I feel like everyone should learn to use SQL, if just to appreciate how data is organized. Of course, someone could make the same argument about picking up Hadoop instead of letting SQL manage file access, organization and other such wonderful features, but I do feel like SQL gets a bad reputation despite how useful and scalable it is (when done correctly)
This approach doesn't handle soundex and fuzzy string searching though. Something like Elasticsearch or Algolia is way more user friendly and saves a ton of dev time to get it up and running. I don't disagree that SQL is super important to know well, but I think it's probably more important to know when to build vs buy in most cases, and search is almost always a buy scenario if you want something that is feature rich and user friendly.
@@tyg6693 I agree to a point. I've been burned by vendors in the past, but some vendors still have my trust (such as SQL, Redis, Elastic). I agree that when something is performance critical, or needs to be bulletproof, adopting a well-known solution is usually far better in terms of cost-benefit than a home-brew solution ever will be.
@@penguindrummaster for sure, there's definitely some sketchy vendors out there. I've used Algolia for a couple projects and like the video says they can be pricey, and have some interesting billing practices (every keystroke is a billable query if you use their provided type ahead library out of the box) but it is faster to set up than Elastic, so some merit if you want something quick and easy. You do raise a valid point about being careful with all these newer SaaS vendors though
One thing I've found with utility class based CSS like Tailwind is that there is a tradeoff between speed of initial development and speed of maintenance. When every element in your DOM has got 20+ classes, changes can be hard to make Definitely agree about Svelte & Typescript though
@@abdulghani1943 man use whatever you like, maybe it's acceptable cost of the bloat and maintenance that they want take, or maybe they don't have any sane frontend developers that actually know how to use css; I don't care. It that works for them, cool. I can't imagine maintaining this monstrosity.
There's a VS Code extension (or maybe ESLint plugin) that sorts your Tailwind classes and will tell you if you repeat one. Makes things way easier to manage
As a frontend dev, I strongly prefer styled components over any other css framework because I subscribe to the idea of component driven designs. Eg instead of making new navbars for every project, I just have a highly customizable one that I just import into a new project and just focus on unique functionality or theme for said project. Styled components let you keep logic and styles in a single file cleanly with no dependencies
@@maharta8458 I like nextjs. Plus styled components allows for more complex styling customization (eg conditional stylings with changeable variables), Something that isn't native to vue
Me, who does scientific computing: "You guys are getting a front-end?! :o " I am happy with my CLI and maybe the occasional unicode plot when I am feeling spicy :)
@@RazgrizDuTTA i found my people. I'm also a Julia dev, but i only code in Julia for fun and not for scientific stuff. I'm actually planning to write a simple game engine in Julia, or just a package that let julia devs write more easily realtime 3D/2D applications
Most of my personal projects are games, and so far I've only used the CLI as my frontend lol. I should probably learn something like opengl, but currently I'm too comfortable with using the CLI
This stack looks epic, how about hosting? Where will you host your website? My understanding is you’ll create pre-rendered HTML pages and serve them statically from a bucket somewhere? Then call to Serverless APIs when you need something not static?
I've been using SvelteKit with tailwindcss and find it amazingly productive. Do you feel like you're giving up on customizability going with something like DaisyUI? I've never really liked Bootstrap, so hopefully it's quite different?
@@fibre0690 DaisyUI is definitely more flexible than boostrap, but it is still a design system and trying to vary from it is always problematic. But being tailwind based makes any type of customization completely viable, something that boostrap can't deliver very
Pretty nice. Thanks for sharing. I like TailwindCSS for custom layouts and artistic web pages, but it's not ideal to quickly build a web app with a standard look. DaisyUI seems to do the trick. And of course, I can still use Tailwind utility classes on top of Daisy's components.
To just listen to this I am so happy. I have been building a project with a friend that I hope will become a very successful project and guess what, I am using the exact same stack: SvelteKit, TailwindCSS, TypeScript, Firebase and Redis. Idk maybe I just watch too many of you videos, but that might mean we became best friends
Since, this will be a one of a kind combination of libraries and frameworks, I would suggest FIRST as the acronym. Fi - Firebase R - Rails S - Svelte T - Tailwind
Glad to see you branching out and thanks for shouting out Angular, I'm from back in your angular exclusive content days. If standalone components become official maybe in 5 years time should take another look at it 😊
Decision #3 is so solid and truthful. I'm biased to say, but other than my job's project I will never use JavaScript anymore. For me, TypeScript is way superior just by having a rich type system. Great video Jeff :)
Man, I just started learning React this year as part of my internship and to see just how many frameworks exist, that makes my head spin! **chuckles** -I'm in danger!
I'm still a newbie but the tech stack I've been slowly getting used to is Sveltekit, TailwindCSS, GSAP (for them animations) and Firebase seems pretty awesome too. I'm tempted to throw in Sanity into the mix too. I just love simplicity and the over engineering of some of the stacks I've seen give me learner-anxiety.
My tech stack is similar to yours, but too bad i had to ditch svelte because in my country react angular and vue is still dominating the job market requirements. So how are you progressing so far?
Hello!I have been watching your "in 100 secs" series for quite a while. Can you make the ones for AI/ML libraries, such as PyTorch, Caffe, TensorFlow, OpenNN, etc.? Congrats for your child, I wish the best for you and your family.
I have just finished by beginners learning and started building projects . Even this early , the " i spend more time writing css that javascript " is so relatable
hi! you should create a vanilla extract css video, I think its a solid styling solution, you can write atomic CSS with fully typesafe, and features like component variants
I don't know if you've heard of smelte before, but I recently discovered it, and it is a great library that uses tailwind css under the hood for styling. It also makes it very easy to add elements like buttons quickly, or tabs, and really a lot of other things
As much as Svelte looks tempting I still feel it lacks a community to be a solid 1st choice though svelte has the potential to be the future it's like the react we all wanted.. hence why I'm sticking to VueJS.. With Databases I'll continue using SQL for overall flexibility (KnexJS + ObjectionJS to simply the development experience) Defs using Tailwindcss(Unocss too) and Vitest. And looking forward to trying Nuxt 3
Man I had to comment to say you had me rolling with that bit about wasting time on sticky nav’s and css with chandler bing in the backdrop 😂 I’m sticking with Nuxt & Vuetify & Firestore serving it all SSR via cloud functions
Svelte and SvelteKit are essentially everything I've ever wanted from writing FE code. The worst part of Svelte is the majority of the maintainers do not like custom elements (Web Components) and are therefore disinterested in spending their time supporting them. So if you're looking to use Svelte's (pretty incredible) internal custom elements compiler doohickey to create portable components... maybe give it a year or three and check back in.
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I think since v3, Tailwind stopped purging classes, instead it now dynamically generates the CSS for the classes you use. Small but important difference IMO
I wouldn't call Ruby on Rails and Django "Full Stack Frameworks", they are backend frameworks, they don't do much when it comes to client side interactivity, you are pretty much on your own there. Remix or Next + API Routes are "Full Stack" because they are your backend and frontend.
You are awesome man. Your content is short, precise, and full of quality. Thanks, especially for this video. I was looking for something like this for my personal blog. Also congrats on the baby!
I am building my business on top of Sveltekit + Tailwind + Stripe I have done tons with it, but still would LOVE to see a course on your site for Sveltekit!!!
This is a pretty good stack I would say, but I have a few notes: * No mention of EdgeDB - a database I think you should consider. * An open source contender to Algolia, namely Meilisearch, is worth a mention. * Firebase really isn't doing it for me. It's probably good, but that lock-in is unbearable.. CouchDB + PouchDB seems to be a good alternative for the parts that a relational database can't handle. * To me CSS is a breeze, making Tailwind an unnecessary crutch, and a maintainability hazard.
@Erick Heredia Something like DasiyUI is nice to quickly get something up and running, but I don't see how it can compare to a bespoke tailored solution, both in terms of quality and in maintainability.
Well, i just compiled two different react apps and served them with a simple php script based on the route. Very neat. I even automatized it all with a shell script and nodejs
I really don't know why people feel that CSS is so difficult. I've used stuff like bootstrap but honestly now I just use sass. It's all I ever needed even for fairly complex sites. I'm not a huge fan of how tailwind pollutes the HTML, it looks more like a bunch of styles than markup of the site structure. I admit than knowing CSS well is required for that to be easy, but I feel like tailwind is similarly complex to learn because you still need to know about CSS and then also need to know the tailwind classes.
At least with react, I find that tailwind makes things a lot easier for me personally. It's not that it's neccessarily easier to learn, as you said, you still need to know CSS to use it effectively. But once you do, tailwind makes it much faster to get a good looking component.
For full text search I use Manticore Search as an alternative to Algolia. It's almost free to use and easy to setup anywhere. It can handle millions of records in a breeze. It also covers several use cases like radius search on a map and it's huge one one for me. It's not as fancy as Algolia with a web dashboard but again I think I don't need such feature.
Started using svelte with fast api and so far loving it. Will be trying out daisyUI in the stack for UI component. Thanks for the suggestion. My favorite feature on svelte happens to be writable.subscribe which makes data change in one part of code visible in all parts using it. Really loving it. For anyone starting out with svelte I really suggest typescript enabled mode as it helps you out with less runtime errors as the project grows. I really learned it the hard way.
btw, I use a simple technique: load the basic html(not user-dependant) and then make XmlHttpRequests that will be handled by express which will send the html for the component.
You're the only programming RUclipsr my 6 year old daughter finds interesting. I find that small children are excellent for testing UI on how intuitive they are :). Meaning if 4-5-6 year old finds and presses what I want the user to find and press, it's all good. Probably the same goes for videos.
Nice. I'm using the stack you mentioned in the video: Sveltekit, Firebase (auth, storage, firestore, cloud fn), a lot of D3, Lottie, Vitest, Testing Library & Playwright. I'm really productive and having a lot a fun. The only drawback is sometimes the lack of documentation for integrating things, like svelte with Testing Library or Playwright. Fortunally, Svelte it's like Vanilla Js, it works like out of the box for the inmense mayority of libraries. My proyect it's almost done.
@@marcobga2398 Sorry, but i don't know, i don't use Svelte Native. Fot proyects where movile is a target, i use CapacitorJs. But i think this will change soon. There a new tool, it's name is Tauri.
Firebase Auth is limiting BUT the custom claims feature is pretty incredible if you are able to stomach the limit on size. Implementing groups, priviledges, and other potentially painful features is significantly easier now.
Love to read and see how many devs are starting to Sveltkit for their projects. Just discovered DaisyUI and started using it in my SvelteKit project, couldn't be more happy about it.
The fact that i have been watching you for like a year now (started coding a year ago). You really helped me. You are more that a "coding youtuber". Congratulations on the baby
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This guy is able to to 30 people's worth of work. Teach us how you plan and work on your projects! Anything from to-do lists till deployment would be amazing
maybe he is using gpt 3
Also while managing fortran and his wife
His stack is severely constrained by the limitations and costs of the managed service providers that he's using. 99% of the time what ends up happening in the medium to long term is that developers will have to be onboarded to implement optimizations and solutions that aren't possible/feasible in this current stack. Take algolia for instance, it could work in the prototyping phase but once the ball gets rolling and you have continuous activity on the site costs will soar and you'll be contacting elasticsearch developers to rewrite your search functionality. These managed services aren't just costly but they actively limit the kind of functionality you can develop and ship out.
Sure this adds complexity and is a time sink. But so does rewriting vast stretches of your software/solution a few months after shipping the solution. These managed service providers are not a good idea for anyone thinking seriously about building software.
He simply do everything with FKIT.
@@friendofzeus AWS isn't good enough? Netflix says hello
01:31 #1 - UI Library (Svelte)
02:44 #2 - Meta Framework (SvelteKit)
04:34 #3 - TypeScript (Yes)
04:38 #4 - Dealing with CSS (Tailwind)
05:55 #5 - Backend Infrastructure (Firebase)
06:53 #6 - Database (Cloud Firestore?)
07:28 #7 - Testing (Cypress)
07:52 #8 - Other APIs (SendGrid, Algolia, Stripe/PayPal)
@@TylerTheDestroyer coming to his comment and clicking the timestamp is way easier than dragging the video bar
@@TylerTheDestroyer there are tons of opinions on all of these a short list like this can help me decide if I wanna hear it or not
@@TylerTheDestroyer Lol you're funny man. idk what u mean by 'Netflix woke'. But I will def utilise any tool to make my life easier.
RUclipsrs that attach timelines to there videos don't want progress/support there own channel???????? what are you saying man.
Also I'm a long time suscriber of fireship(which is irrelevant to this argument), don't why you brought that up.
Also yh, 10min is a long time(why do you think fireship makes 100seconds videos???).. I may not have 10min but I still want to watch something from the video.
@@TylerTheDestroyer say I have 1hr, I can either commit to 6 10 minute videos or pick the ones that I think are more likely to have something I actually would want to hear more about. from my perspective my judgement is better than random odds to run into "something that can change your world".
And also a lot of this filtering makes it so I don't waste time on something I know I don't wanna know more about or on something I already know about
@@TylerTheDestroyer typical 14 years old
Here's an idea: you should make a kind of devlog while rebuilding your site. Not only will it be easier considering you can record while actually working, but it'll be a fantastic Svelte tutorial as well.
Congratulations on your baby, love your content!
Hard agree, a devlog which documents the entire thing is gonna be awesome
A mini series of that would be great
This right here! 🔥
it could be amazing
Yes! I would love to see that!
I went back to good old days' backend html rendering (go) + web components (pure js) for interactivity. Can't overestimate how happy that made me.
What do you mean by backend html rendering? The backend shouldn't be rendering html.
This is easily the best guide I've seen. Also, congratulations on the baby!
Thank you!
woah this is the first super thanks i've seen. great to see the support!
hey, I never really understood why would someone congratulate someone on having a baby, can you explain? no rudeness, pure curiosity
@@ieatthighs surprisingly I was wondering the same 🥲
@@ieatthighs do u have a baby?
Then u can't understand 😂
Congratulations on the newest member of the family, and thank you for this video, as usual very informative
In the future, I predict devs will use sophisticated neural networks to pick the optimal tech stack so they aren’t driven completely insane
Edit: I told you all 😂
thats how skynet starts, mark my words.
@@theterribleanimator1793 yeah, I imagine the ai will go crazy with all the different tools and revolt against the humans forcing it to pick
@@jakob7116 The ai tries to find the best solution, maybe the best solutions is to have no humans at all.
@@theterribleanimator1793 it's disturbing how likely that is to be true, lmao
If the Neural Networks won't be the devs themselves
Hey yo congratulations my dude! Welcome to fatherhood. Stay blessed 🙏🏽
That CSS part was a direct hit to every frontend developer out there.
Why no sticky 🤣
Dude bare-bone css are nightmare it just literally suck out our productive times 😖😖
@@t.adhavan7946 Tailwind is nightmare. Use scss. I cannot imagine tailwind working at scale. The examples already have so much copy-paste code. CSS is the easiest thing out there since grid and flex.
@@zugdsbtngizudsgbnudsdsoiu what’s scss
A "better CSS". It allows you to nest CSS declarations for less code, use compile-time variables, and many other features
Congratulations on your baby, Jeff!! Great content as always and this is one of your best videos - which is a lot, since your videos rock!
I'm a sheep, I follow everything Jeff says/teaches on Fireship....
....and I am proud to be a "FireSheep"
I sure hope I won't get Fired from job for following everything Jeff says to the point and rewriting our legacy enterprise system in Svelte
@@sealoftime I'm also planning to rewrite all of my mainframe jobs in svelte.
And you can also count tha sheep I guess
@@sealoftime You won't get fired man, you will get fireshiped !
Same. It works
Very very humbly dropping that your whole website is 100% custom made with Sass. Props to you, the very opaque, tedious, and absolutely insane, but lovely job of doing CSS custom is something I truly enjoy and respect.
i will humbly be a css-only salaried developer, i never understood the exodus to framework it, just pay us to do artsy stuff
"Or we could call it 'fuck it'."
Absolutely gold standard humor right there. Caught me off-guard and now my sides hurt - perfect :D
I have been burnt from webdev a few times because of what I want to do; but what you mentioned with Svelte Kit is amazing. Usually I got stuck with the question of "How do I transistion from SSR to CSR?" And the answer is hydration and a shitload of manual callback stacking to de-initialize a current context and re-initialize the next one when the new components load in. Its... meh... I feel like TTC (time to content) is very important. I hate waiting on websites to load their megabytes of JavaScript when all I want to do is just read an article and then bugger off. xD
Thank you for showcasing those libs and frameworks!
Yeah, this guy is not only informative, but also hilarious. Really funny. It makes watching this fast-paced content much easier.
Awesome as always, just when I was looking for the tech stack for my upgraded membership 🔥Congrats on the baby of course, exciting (and often hard) times ahead 🙌
I really go for FKIT 👌🏽
less go
Yeah and in corporate we can pretend to pronounce it as f-kit but we'll all know
I know this probably wasn't intentional, but this felt like a flex on just how many tools your aware of. I'm truly impressed by the breadth of your knowledge
When I decided to start learning frameworks after a year or two of NodeJS practice.
I first went all out trying to learn a few popular frameworks and really making sure I understood the pros and cons of each (vue, react, svelte)
At first I thought Vue was my choice, but when I realised I needed SSR nuxt was just way too confusing for me. React was already too hard for me to use
SvelteKit was just perfect for my choice of coding. Glad to see some appreciation
frontend was never my cup of tea. i too learnt nodejs 2 years ago, now working as a backend developer(java / springboot).
@@newtanagmukhopadhyay4716 can you give me some pointers how you shifted to backend? I mean I'm junior frontend. Where do I start to eventually move to backend?
@@dipanjanghosal1662 if you do go back end, avoid Java like it's the plague
@@dipanjanghosal1662 I will say learn Node JS, since you're a frontend developer. You will be accustomed with javascript. Make small projects, then start making portfolios, test them, deploy them and then sit for interviews.
This can be done within 6 months to a year.
P.S. I switched from backend to frontend. :p
@@pictzone why? I love working in java + spring
Been tooting the svelte horn since I discovered it in 2018. That plus tailwind is gold!
4:55 Hey, I made a tutorial on a Sticky Navbar with Tailwind and Svelte 😄
My decisions for most apps, quite a lot of overlap:
1. Svelte
2. SvelteKit
3. TypeScript
4. TailwindCSS
5. Supabase!
6. Supabase Postgres + Redis!
7. Playwright & Vitest!
8. Stripe (other notable ones: Maybe Postmark for transactional emails, ConvertKit for campaigns, Plausible for metrics)
love watching these stack vids as a noobie web dev student and just being absolutely boggled by how much is out there
would love a video on the philosophy of "how to learn new techs and how MUCH or how DEEP of that new tech is necessary to learn"
As a former SQL developer, I somewhat laugh at the thought of needing Full-Text Search, as I've implemented a fairly standard SQL solution for it in the past. It's no where near as quick as something like ElasticSearch, but on data sets under 1M it will be sub-second. You just need your ingest process to tokenize all text, create a hash-table of the unique entries, and then a cross-reference table of the text Value-id to the Entity-id. Add another column to the index so that it's sorted by Attribute-id, as in the EAV model, and you will be able to perform a global search on all occurrences of text, grouped by the data source (represented by Attribute-id), or a focused search that specifies a type of data.
While I appreciate the simplicity of a purpose-built solution, I feel like everyone should learn to use SQL, if just to appreciate how data is organized. Of course, someone could make the same argument about picking up Hadoop instead of letting SQL manage file access, organization and other such wonderful features, but I do feel like SQL gets a bad reputation despite how useful and scalable it is (when done correctly)
we don't want to learn all that shit man we are web developers just make a framework of it
This approach doesn't handle soundex and fuzzy string searching though. Something like Elasticsearch or Algolia is way more user friendly and saves a ton of dev time to get it up and running.
I don't disagree that SQL is super important to know well, but I think it's probably more important to know when to build vs buy in most cases, and search is almost always a buy scenario if you want something that is feature rich and user friendly.
@@tyg6693 I agree to a point. I've been burned by vendors in the past, but some vendors still have my trust (such as SQL, Redis, Elastic). I agree that when something is performance critical, or needs to be bulletproof, adopting a well-known solution is usually far better in terms of cost-benefit than a home-brew solution ever will be.
@@tyg6693 I've used sonic before with some degree of success. It feels like a good enough, lightweight alternative to elasticsearch.
@@penguindrummaster for sure, there's definitely some sketchy vendors out there. I've used Algolia for a couple projects and like the video says they can be pricey, and have some interesting billing practices (every keystroke is a billable query if you use their provided type ahead library out of the box) but it is faster to set up than Elastic, so some merit if you want something quick and easy. You do raise a valid point about being careful with all these newer SaaS vendors though
There is a reason for why I'm a backend dev, and that reason has a proper name: Cascading Style Sheets
Literally the only reason I barely touch frond-end. And the few situations when I have to work in the front-end I rely heavily on css frameworks.
I hate css so much 🤮
All my homies hate CSS. God bless tailwindcss.
Lol that's the exact reason I love frontend
Tailwind and bootstrap to the rescue.
And flutter is always there if you absolutely hate css and can live with almost no search engine optimisation.
One thing I've found with utility class based CSS like Tailwind is that there is a tradeoff between speed of initial development and speed of maintenance. When every element in your DOM has got 20+ classes, changes can be hard to make
Definitely agree about Svelte & Typescript though
Tailwind is cool for prototyping, but it's just a bloat if you want to use this on production. It's crazy people do this.
Github uses tailwind, wondering if that’s the case then how such a big company is using it.
@@abdulghani1943 man use whatever you like, maybe it's acceptable cost of the bloat and maintenance that they want take, or maybe they don't have any sane frontend developers that actually know how to use css; I don't care. It that works for them, cool.
I can't imagine maintaining this monstrosity.
Adding a single extra class to a list of classes is too much work to you?
There's a VS Code extension (or maybe ESLint plugin) that sorts your Tailwind classes and will tell you if you repeat one. Makes things way easier to manage
As a frontend dev, I strongly prefer styled components over any other css framework because I subscribe to the idea of component driven designs.
Eg instead of making new navbars for every project, I just have a highly customizable one that I just import into a new project and just focus on unique functionality or theme for said project.
Styled components let you keep logic and styles in a single file cleanly with no dependencies
Vue let you do that easily
@@maharta8458 I like nextjs. Plus styled components allows for more complex styling customization (eg conditional stylings with changeable variables), Something that isn't native to vue
@竜巫 | Siwaga Miriko styled components is different from sass, but you can used styled components and tailwind if you like
Nextjs + ts + tailwindcss + daisyUI = Love
Me, who does scientific computing: "You guys are getting a front-end?! :o "
I am happy with my CLI and maybe the occasional unicode plot when I am feeling spicy :)
pyplot is my frontend
@@limlam22 I am more of a Julia guy but I also run Conda inside Julia to have access to the huge package library.
@@RazgrizDuTTA i found my people. I'm also a Julia dev, but i only code in Julia for fun and not for scientific stuff. I'm actually planning to write a simple game engine in Julia, or just a package that let julia devs write more easily realtime 3D/2D applications
@@nullpointer1755 that’s cool. looking forward to it. we need more julia projects like this
Most of my personal projects are games, and so far I've only used the CLI as my frontend lol. I should probably learn something like opengl, but currently I'm too comfortable with using the CLI
A good open source alternative to Algolia is Meilisearch (written in Rust and works as a drop in replacement for Algolia)
That sounds great!
He talked about it and another search solution called zinc written in go on another video about opensource tools
This stack looks epic, how about hosting? Where will you host your website? My understanding is you’ll create pre-rendered HTML pages and serve them statically from a bucket somewhere? Then call to Serverless APIs when you need something not static?
You don't need hosting if you have a static site. The site is served from a CDN and calls lambda APIs.
Firebase does hosting
Firebase hosting
@@FinaISpartan _”The site is served from a CDN”_
Also known as hosting, hosts don’t necessarily have to be centralized.
Netlify or Vercel are super simple.
I have been using Svelte + DaisyUI and is just amazingly fast, love it
I've been using SvelteKit with tailwindcss and find it amazingly productive. Do you feel like you're giving up on customizability going with something like DaisyUI? I've never really liked Bootstrap, so hopefully it's quite different?
@@fibre0690 DaisyUI is definitely more flexible than boostrap, but it is still a design system and trying to vary from it is always problematic. But being tailwind based makes any type of customization completely viable, something that boostrap can't deliver very
Pretty nice. Thanks for sharing. I like TailwindCSS for custom layouts and artistic web pages, but it's not ideal to quickly build a web app with a standard look. DaisyUI seems to do the trick. And of course, I can still use Tailwind utility classes on top of Daisy's components.
As a dad I have to commend you for having a new born and still managing to pump out the great content. Respect.
To just listen to this I am so happy. I have been building a project with a friend that I hope will become a very successful project and guess what, I am using the exact same stack: SvelteKit, TailwindCSS, TypeScript, Firebase and Redis. Idk maybe I just watch too many of you videos, but that might mean we became best friends
Uk it's gonna be a good day when fireship posts on ur bday
Happy birthday!
Happy Birthday Raghav. I hope this coming year goes well for you. 😃
Happy birthday 🍰
Thanks everyone
Happy Birthday 😊
Since, this will be a one of a kind combination of libraries and frameworks, I would suggest FIRST as the acronym.
Fi - Firebase
R - Rails
S - Svelte
T - Tailwind
+1
Cool idea, but nothing beats FKIT
but he isn't using rails? lol
@@AustinMerrick yup, coz he left the backend part for us to decide.
@@manishroy3024 what would you use rails for if you are using firebase and sveltekit already?
Glad to see you branching out and thanks for shouting out Angular, I'm from back in your angular exclusive content days.
If standalone components become official maybe in 5 years time should take another look at it 😊
congratulations dude! Welcome to fatherhood. Stay blessed 🙏🏽
Decision #3 is so solid and truthful. I'm biased to say, but other than my job's project I will never use JavaScript anymore. For me, TypeScript is way superior just by having a rich type system. Great video Jeff :)
Congratulations on your baby! ♥
Man, I just started learning React this year as part of my internship and to see just how many frameworks exist, that makes my head spin!
**chuckles** -I'm in danger!
We've all been there (and most of us are still there to a certain extent lol), don't worry too much about it and be patient with yourself! :)
just stick to your favorit and git gud with it, no need to know them all ;D (I use Vue btw)
It's a blessing having traversy and this channel, fun and learning in a quite distinct way!!!
I'm still a newbie but the tech stack I've been slowly getting used to is Sveltekit, TailwindCSS, GSAP (for them animations) and Firebase seems pretty awesome too. I'm tempted to throw in Sanity into the mix too. I just love simplicity and the over engineering of some of the stacks I've seen give me learner-anxiety.
My tech stack is similar to yours, but too bad i had to ditch svelte because in my country react angular and vue is still dominating the job market requirements. So how are you progressing so far?
And here we are again, waiting for the Svelte year to come. Great video, Jeff.
I'm a simple man, I see a Fireship video, I click. Never disappoints.
true story
Congrats Jeff for having a baby. ❤️
Hello!I have been watching your "in 100 secs" series for quite a while. Can you make the ones for AI/ML libraries, such as PyTorch, Caffe, TensorFlow, OpenNN, etc.?
Congrats for your child, I wish the best for you and your family.
I have just finished by beginners learning and started building projects . Even this early , the " i spend more time writing css that javascript " is so relatable
hi! you should create a vanilla extract css video, I think its a solid styling solution, you can write atomic CSS with fully typesafe, and features like component variants
Mantine is simply the best react component framework. Surprising more people don't know about it
Awesome Video Jeff!
I don't know if you've heard of smelte before, but I recently discovered it, and it is a great library that uses tailwind css under the hood for styling. It also makes it very easy to add elements like buttons quickly, or tabs, and really a lot of other things
You're the light in the tunnel for devs. Thank you for saving me hours of my life trying to center a div
As much as Svelte looks tempting I still feel it lacks a community to be a solid 1st choice though svelte has the potential to be the future it's like the react we all wanted.. hence why I'm sticking to VueJS.. With Databases I'll continue using SQL for overall flexibility (KnexJS + ObjectionJS to simply the development experience) Defs using Tailwindcss(Unocss too) and Vitest. And looking forward to trying Nuxt 3
Man I had to comment to say you had me rolling with that bit about wasting time on sticky nav’s and css with chandler bing in the backdrop 😂
I’m sticking with Nuxt & Vuetify & Firestore serving it all SSR via cloud functions
Svelte and SvelteKit are essentially everything I've ever wanted from writing FE code. The worst part of Svelte is the majority of the maintainers do not like custom elements (Web Components) and are therefore disinterested in spending their time supporting them. So if you're looking to use Svelte's (pretty incredible) internal custom elements compiler doohickey to create portable components... maybe give it a year or three and check back in.
I think since v3, Tailwind stopped purging classes, instead it now dynamically generates the CSS for the classes you use. Small but important difference IMO
I wouldn't call Ruby on Rails and Django "Full Stack Frameworks", they are backend frameworks, they don't do much when it comes to client side interactivity, you are pretty much on your own there. Remix or Next + API Routes are "Full Stack" because they are your backend and frontend.
Many others don't consider Next.js as fullstack because it doesn't have built-in authentication or ORM
@@dongums That's not what full stack means though
Congratulations on the new born Jeff 🥳🥳🥳👏👏👏👏
Crazy coincidence, I just started using Sveltekit with DaisyUI for a personal project! Love this stack
DaisyUI is awesome, specially the theme changes! I can ship 10+ styles for a client in the same amount of time
@@kayaba_atributtion2156 can i ask how do you change themes using svelte/sveltekit? idk how to access root html tag
You are awesome man. Your content is short, precise, and full of quality. Thanks, especially for this video. I was looking for something like this for my personal blog. Also congrats on the baby!
Just spend more time with your'e Baby! They grow up so fast and the memories with you're kid are much better than some another JS Framework
I am building my business on top of Sveltekit + Tailwind + Stripe I have done tons with it, but still would LOVE to see a course on your site for Sveltekit!!!
This is a pretty good stack I would say, but I have a few notes:
* No mention of EdgeDB - a database I think you should consider.
* An open source contender to Algolia, namely Meilisearch, is worth a mention.
* Firebase really isn't doing it for me. It's probably good, but that lock-in is unbearable.. CouchDB + PouchDB seems to be a good alternative for the parts that a relational database can't handle.
* To me CSS is a breeze, making Tailwind an unnecessary crutch, and a maintainability hazard.
What is it you do that you are able to use such great tech? Isn't everyone just locked into whatever standard old fashioned thing their job is using?
@@doorey2 Lifestyle consultancy agency. Also co-founding a couple of startups helps.
You can use DaisyUI. You can also create classes using tailwind if you don't like to put them directly in the component.
@Erick Heredia Something like DasiyUI is nice to quickly get something up and running, but I don't see how it can compare to a bespoke tailored solution, both in terms of quality and in maintainability.
I literally cheered out loud when you said you selected svelte ❤️❤️❤️ you got me into svelte and I haven’t touched another framework since!!!
Well, i just compiled two different react apps and served them with a simple php script based on the route. Very neat. I even automatized it all with a shell script and nodejs
progress tracking is my biggest gripe with your pro membership. Made me consider cancelling but the content is worth it.
I really don't know why people feel that CSS is so difficult. I've used stuff like bootstrap but honestly now I just use sass. It's all I ever needed even for fairly complex sites. I'm not a huge fan of how tailwind pollutes the HTML, it looks more like a bunch of styles than markup of the site structure.
I admit than knowing CSS well is required for that to be easy, but I feel like tailwind is similarly complex to learn because you still need to know about CSS and then also need to know the tailwind classes.
At least with react, I find that tailwind makes things a lot easier for me personally. It's not that it's neccessarily easier to learn, as you said, you still need to know CSS to use it effectively. But once you do, tailwind makes it much faster to get a good looking component.
Perhaps the best tool would be something that gets the ball rolling in relatively short amount of time, and then you can opt out and do your thing.
vscode tailwind extension shows all of the tailwind classes and what css they apply
omg.. i know i wont regret choosing svelte as my js framework after pondering and watching alot of js framework videos. ❤️
00:17, ok, but what stack you would be using if the world is destroyed??
Congrats on your baby, God bless you fam!
The next thing I want to talk about is Typescript if you’re building a big complicated project use it the end 😂😅
Dude this video is a goldmine… keep making these bro. You. Are. Awesome.
Congrats on welcoming a new member into your family!
As a react dev, I use next.js with typescript, Prisma and postgres if I need to, and since I am to lazy to do css, I use chakramUI or nextUI
React is for beginners. You really never progressed from that?
@@LarsRyeJeppesen i legit just started
@@LarsRyeJeppesen Wdym?
@@angadtendulkar292 no problem dude, sorry. cheers
Same for me except i use DaisyUI
Hey! Nice to hear you had a baby!! lots of 💕💕 love, keep up the good work! You changing lives♥️
fireship is such a simp to firebase
Congratulations to you, mum and the familty for the baby, god bless the baby.
bro just changes the title every year
For full text search I use Manticore Search as an alternative to Algolia. It's almost free to use and easy to setup anywhere. It can handle millions of records in a breeze. It also covers several use cases like radius search on a map and it's huge one one for me. It's not as fancy as Algolia with a web dashboard but again I think I don't need such feature.
Svelte the most loved but only 4% of professionals use it vs the 44% of React... Still has a long way to go.
Choose the best and let's all use this one. All these possible choices and things needed to learn scares the shit out of me.
First of all congratulations man for your baby! Another amazing video.
Congrats on the baby! My first is due on Labor Day.
thank you for the label at 0:30, I wasn't really understanding that structure
Congrats on the baby! :D Best wishes to your family
Best part of the video 0:30
Congratulations! 🎉
I recently rebuild a vanilla PHP blog using Strapi, Astro and GraphQL, it was a lot of fun :)
Congrats on your little one Jeff! 🎉
I am currently building a mobile app with SvelteKit, Capacitor and Firebase. Killer stack!
Started using svelte with fast api and so far loving it.
Will be trying out daisyUI in the stack for UI component. Thanks for the suggestion.
My favorite feature on svelte happens to be writable.subscribe which makes data change in one part of code visible in all parts using it. Really loving it. For anyone starting out with svelte I really suggest typescript enabled mode as it helps you out with less runtime errors as the project grows. I really learned it the hard way.
btw, I use a simple technique: load the basic html(not user-dependant) and then make XmlHttpRequests that will be handled by express which will send the html for the component.
Again great video. Next, you can shrink the screen again in the top left corner, we're not too worried about it
You're the only programming RUclipsr my 6 year old daughter finds interesting. I find that small children are excellent for testing UI on how intuitive they are :). Meaning if 4-5-6 year old finds and presses what I want the user to find and press, it's all good. Probably the same goes for videos.
Hell yeah!! Svelte, wind and fire. I'm pretty excited as that is my stack choice and can't wait to watch your approach.
Nice. I'm using the stack you mentioned in the video: Sveltekit, Firebase (auth, storage, firestore, cloud fn), a lot of D3, Lottie, Vitest, Testing Library & Playwright.
I'm really productive and having a lot a fun. The only drawback is sometimes the lack of documentation for integrating things, like svelte with Testing Library or Playwright. Fortunally, Svelte it's like Vanilla Js, it works like out of the box for the inmense mayority of libraries. My proyect it's almost done.
Is svelte native product ready?
@@marcobga2398 Sorry, but i don't know, i don't use Svelte Native. Fot proyects where movile is a target, i use CapacitorJs.
But i think this will change soon. There a new tool, it's name is Tauri.
congratulations for the baby ❤️
Firebase Auth is limiting BUT the custom claims feature is pretty incredible if you are able to stomach the limit on size. Implementing groups, priviledges, and other potentially painful features is significantly easier now.
Love to read and see how many devs are starting to Sveltkit for their projects.
Just discovered DaisyUI and started using it in my SvelteKit project, couldn't be more happy about it.
The fact that i have been watching you for like a year now (started coding a year ago). You really helped me. You are more that a "coding youtuber". Congratulations on the baby
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Congratulations on the baby! I love your content
I started using Svelte and switched to firebase. I'm loving it. I really wished they had something like svelte for mobile development
This channel is, so far, my discovery of the year.
Typescript : If you build a big and complicated project you should use it.
Well if you build a small and simple project, you should use it to IMO ^^