The first time I saw this movie I thought the choreography was really bad, but then I realized what was actually going on. Brian De Bois-Guilbert could have won the fight, but he held back because his conscience was struggling with being the cause of Rebecca's death. At the moment he was about to kill Ivanhoe, Brian finally decided he couldn't let Rebecca die because of him, so he chose to let Ivanhoe kill him. That's why Robin Hood asks "why?"
That's a much better, more plausible explanation than what's actually written in Sir Walter Scott's novel. In that, God supposedly smites him during the initial joust.
@@scottspringer957 The book describes Brian as being "a victim of his own emotions" and he suddenly has a heart attack or something right after he unhorses Ivanhoe. This adaptation has a much better, less anticlimactic interpretation.
Best sword duel between two men in full-body chainmail can be found in Robin and Marian (1976), with Sean Connery as an aging Robin Hood. The battle is brief, bloody, and brutal between Robin and the Sheriff of Nottingham. I strongly recommend that film if you love this one.
One I think is at least as good is the one in the movie El Cid, between the kings' champions when they fight over who owns the city of Calahhora. It was a very realistic depiction of such fights because it was extremely brutal, obviously physically taxing to the ultimate, and *short*. When you're bundled up inside that armor and the padding cloth under it, you get badly overheated pretty quickly, so fights had to be over in the shortest time possible. Another great fight scene is the last part of Ridley Scott's 2021 film The Last Duel.
Boris-Gielbert was in a classic Lose-Lose situation. If he killed Ivanhoe, then the woman he loved would have been burned alive and would have to live his entire life knowing he was the cause of her death. If he lost Rebecca would have been freed but he would be dead. And in either case she was in love with Ivanhoe not Bois-Gielbert. (Poor Rebecca, Ivanhoe was in love with Rowena, not her). So, after he knocked Ivanhoe off of his horse Bois-Gielbert dismounted himself - he did NOT have to do that - and engaged Ivanhoe on the ground with swords. He convincingly beat Ivanhoe one-on-one. That is indisputable. Then he let Ivanhoe kill him after locking eyes with Rebecca one last time. Boris-Gielbert gave up his life that Rebecca might live, but he proved to Ivanhoe which one of them was the better knight. BUT(!) could he have beaten Ivanhoe if Ivanhoe was not still weak and sick? We the audience are left to wonder….
They never show the ending from the novel, where Bois-Gielbert just collapses from the conflict created by his desire for Rebecca. Neither man actually wins the fight. I prefer the duel from the Robert Taylor movie, where Ivanhoe outsmarts his foe, and kills him. There, Boris-Gielbert is more along the lines of "If I can't have her no one will." Well, he's played by George Sanders. His characters were rarely what you'd call chivalrous. ;) I can't say I care for this one.
In the book Gielbert knocks Ivanhoe off his horse at the first pass. Ivanhoe merely touches Gielbert's shield, yet Gielbert falls off his horse and remains lying on the ground. When they go to him and lift up his visor, he is dead. Gielbert had some good in him that was struggling to get out. In the book Rebecca is shown to be very devout and to be continually praying to God. Gielbert may have died as a consequence of God's intervention.
Сплошные нестыковки, Буагильбер одет не в орденские одежды, что было запрещено Орденом тамплиеров, магистром коего он являлся, кресты у братьев - рыцарей далеко не тамплиерские, даже ,, Босэан,, - знамя Ордена тамплиеров неправильное, в фильме черно - белое пополам, на самом деле чёрный цвет занимал одну треть. Теперь о самом поединке, кто читал роман,, Айвенго,, Вальтера Скотта помнит что Айвенго был выбить из седла Буагильбером, когда подбежал к нему с мечем, Буагильбер был уже мёртв. А тут устроили избиение младенца, Айвенго ещё от ранения не отошёл, тамплиеры его бы делал как бог черепаху. Хоть бы подумали создатели фильма, ведь Вальтер Скотт не зря придумал такой финал, и что он хотел этим показать.
4:06 right....Donovan! Or General Veers. I just looked at Kevin Costners Robin Hood and saw Sean Connery. I did not remember quite who played King Richard here and in Costners movie.
Can't believe how funny some of the old historic movies were. I really thought at one point that mail and armor was pointless, just like another piece of clothing. I really thought as a kid growing up during the 1980s that you could slash through metal.
The guy received so many blows that he could barely get up, until suddenly he precisely stabbed another with a sword that weighed a lot and still had the strength to stand in front of the majesty and the girl... By the way, wasn't that red one Sam Neill? I feel sorry for the guy. It's so miserable to die...
People do not get punched backward when taking a bullet either, and how many cars were ever locked in earlier movies? Or the sound of space crafts or even explosions it space. If you want to complain over something like this in a movie you find something in everyone.
Hussey does a much better job of conveying Rebecca's strength of character, which is what makes de Bois-Guilbert fall in love with her. Also, neither in the book nor in the 1982 version does he actually assault her (Sanders grabs her and kisses her). Another thing that bothers me is that one minute Ivanhoe is still weak from his wound, and the outlaws take him to Sherwood to recover, and seemingly on the following day he's apparently fit enough to fight in Front-de-Bouef's castle - a big change from the book, in which he has also been brought there and is tended by Rebecca, as In the 1982 version.
@@Heide-ul3qp I’ve read the book. But I’m not commenting on the authenticity of the movie in reference to the book. I’m commenting on how well the movie was made.
Hmm, so Robin Hood was just standing around waiting for the woman to be burnt alive… and I thought he was the good guy.. King Richard spent just under a year in England in all the time he was king.. he was really a King of France with a nice holiday home in England.. King John would later become king and rule ruthlessly and will be forced to sign the Magna Carta… not sure what happened to Robin Hood, but I guess he turned into Sean Connery..😂
@@avortinus6031 This version is more faithful to the book. The 1952 may be more exciting but this one conveys the ambiguity of the final battle in the book.
Ivanhoe spends the entire movie recovering from wounds received in the Ashby joust. He's in no fit state to throw a sword around with abandon and the choreography matches that. Watch the entire film sometime.
@@angel-rq4fz Yeah, nah. James Mason and Sam Neil are poor actors? Olivia Hussey, Anthony Andrews? Nope, not in any way. I own the 1952 on VHS, have done since 1989. I got it because of this. I wish I had this and the '97 version as well. Just as I have two versions of The Mark of Zorro and three versions of The Four Feathers.
The first time I saw this movie I thought the choreography was really bad, but then I realized what was actually going on. Brian De Bois-Guilbert could have won the fight, but he held back because his conscience was struggling with being the cause of Rebecca's death. At the moment he was about to kill Ivanhoe, Brian finally decided he couldn't let Rebecca die because of him, so he chose to let Ivanhoe kill him. That's why Robin Hood asks "why?"
That's a much better, more plausible explanation than what's actually written in Sir Walter Scott's novel. In that, God supposedly smites him during the initial joust.
@@scottspringer957 The book describes Brian as being "a victim of his own emotions" and he suddenly has a heart attack or something right after he unhorses Ivanhoe. This adaptation has a much better, less anticlimactic interpretation.
Exactly!
At first, I thought 'Why is everyone so young?' Then I realized that this film was 40 years ago. Yes...I AM that old lol!
Best sword duel between two men in full-body chainmail can be found in Robin and Marian (1976), with Sean Connery as an aging Robin Hood. The battle is brief, bloody, and brutal between Robin and the Sheriff of Nottingham. I strongly recommend that film if you love this one.
One I think is at least as good is the one in the movie El Cid, between the kings' champions when they fight over who owns the city of Calahhora. It was a very realistic depiction of such fights because it was extremely brutal, obviously physically taxing to the ultimate, and *short*. When you're bundled up inside that armor and the padding cloth under it, you get badly overheated pretty quickly, so fights had to be over in the shortest time possible.
Another great fight scene is the last part of Ridley Scott's 2021 film The Last Duel.
I'm going to watch both, this is true cinema.
Check out the 1952 version of this duel with Robert Taylor and George Sanders.
One of my favourite all time books.
Boris-Gielbert was in a classic Lose-Lose situation. If he killed Ivanhoe, then the woman he loved would have been burned alive and would have to live his entire life knowing he was the cause of her death. If he lost Rebecca would have been freed but he would be dead. And in either case she was in love with Ivanhoe not Bois-Gielbert. (Poor Rebecca, Ivanhoe was in love with Rowena, not her). So, after he knocked Ivanhoe off of his horse Bois-Gielbert dismounted himself - he did NOT have to do that - and engaged Ivanhoe on the ground with swords. He convincingly beat Ivanhoe one-on-one. That is indisputable. Then he let Ivanhoe kill him after locking eyes with Rebecca one last time. Boris-Gielbert gave up his life that Rebecca might live, but he proved to Ivanhoe which one of them was the better knight. BUT(!) could he have beaten Ivanhoe if Ivanhoe was not still weak and sick? We the audience are left to wonder….
They never show the ending from the novel, where Bois-Gielbert just collapses from the conflict created by his desire for Rebecca. Neither man actually wins the fight.
I prefer the duel from the Robert Taylor movie, where Ivanhoe outsmarts his foe, and kills him. There, Boris-Gielbert is more along the lines of "If I can't have her no one will." Well, he's played by George Sanders. His characters were rarely what you'd call chivalrous. ;)
I can't say I care for this one.
Bull. He was not a better knight. He was a better fighter but a poor man.
Very astute analysis.
Actually Ivanhoe is in love with Rebecca but chooses duty and rank to an extent over love.
Bois-Guilbert
Un 🏛️ de la literatura universal y del 🎥 clásico
Great book (Sir Walter Scott who also wrote 'The Talisman') and 2 films (1952 and 1982)
In the book Gielbert knocks Ivanhoe off his horse at the first pass. Ivanhoe merely touches Gielbert's shield, yet Gielbert falls off his horse and remains lying on the ground. When they go to him and lift up his visor, he is dead. Gielbert had some good in him that was struggling to get out. In the book Rebecca is shown to be very devout and to be continually praying to God. Gielbert may have died as a consequence of God's intervention.
The mans name is Brian DuBois-Guilbert.
Not quite up to the Robert Taylor, George Sanders, Elizabeth Taylor, Joan Fontain standard (1952).
Not by a long shot!
@@rdrift1879Both the movie as a whole and this fight scene. Bob and George and their stunt doubles were definitely “flanging” at each other.
The budget for this whole 1982 movie was the same as for Elizabeth Taylors make-up in 1952.
Our Kiwi "Sam Neil" Dying for a good cause, good onya mate,, I'll see you a few years later in Jurassic park
Holy crap, it's Alan Grant fighting Ivanhoe!
Сплошные нестыковки, Буагильбер одет не в орденские одежды, что было запрещено Орденом тамплиеров, магистром коего он являлся, кресты у братьев - рыцарей далеко не тамплиерские, даже ,, Босэан,, - знамя Ордена тамплиеров неправильное, в фильме черно - белое пополам, на самом деле чёрный цвет занимал одну треть. Теперь о самом поединке, кто читал роман,, Айвенго,, Вальтера Скотта помнит что Айвенго был выбить из седла Буагильбером, когда подбежал к нему с мечем, Буагильбер был уже мёртв. А тут устроили избиение младенца, Айвенго ещё от ранения не отошёл, тамплиеры его бы делал как бог черепаху. Хоть бы подумали создатели фильма, ведь Вальтер Скотт не зря придумал такой финал, и что он хотел этим показать.
Kia ora SAM NEIL!!! "Legend!!"
Exciting scene from a classic movie.
I think the lady is Olivia Hussey of Romeo and Juliet fame?
That's right.
At about 2:44: "..I would like to have seen...Montana.."
Then you should have defected.
And drive state to state, no papers, in a recreational vehicle. With rabbits. And two American wives.
This ending was not nearly as powerful as. Scott's writing. Not nearly.
4:06 right....Donovan! Or General Veers. I just looked at Kevin Costners Robin Hood and saw Sean Connery. I did not remember quite who played King Richard here and in Costners movie.
Can't believe how funny some of the old historic movies were. I really thought at one point that mail and armor was pointless, just like another piece of clothing. I really thought as a kid growing up during the 1980s that you could slash through metal.
we don't see the three leopards on the royal standard very often. this 3rd leopard was added by Richard but quickly deleted.
Anthony Andrews is no Robert Taylor. Sam Neil is no George Sanders. Olivia Hussey is no Elizabeth Taylor.
Sorry I know it is personal choice but give me Olivia any day.
The original is far better
I love Olivia Hussey.
Olivia (also) was quite the beauty ...
Liz hatte viel zuviel Schminke für eine mittelalterliche Frau.
It would be surprising if King Richard the Lionheart Plantagenet spoke English. He spoke French like all the nobility of the time.
And the people spoke middle English not modern Engkish.
He spoke perfect English, utter nonsense he spoke French!
Yes I think it was Edward IV that made English the main language for Nobles and the Peasants
Yes, but the movie audience mostly only spoke English
He could order up some ale!
Sam Nail perfecto
Prince to Knight
Anthony andrews never amounted to much as jerramy irons after brideshead
Perhaps, but Jeremy never got to kiss Judy Geeson! (Danger UXB)
Was that Robin Hood?,must be a time warp
Is it just me or is that fair maiden the same one who played in Braveheart?
No. Catherine McCormack played Mel Gibson's. 1995 Braveheart stage wife, Murron.
I don't know this movie, but I recognize Olivia Hussey. She also played Juliet in the "Romeo and Juliet" movie.
Not many fair maidens running around these daya. And all that toxic masculinity.
You may be thinking of Sophie Marceau ...
Love the aluminum shields.
Le film de 1952 était beaucoup plus inspiré.
The guy received so many blows that he could barely get up, until suddenly he precisely stabbed another with a sword that weighed a lot and still had the strength to stand in front of the majesty and the girl... By the way, wasn't that red one Sam Neill? I feel sorry for the guy. It's so miserable to die...
That's soldiering for you ...
Viande mon filmé prefere
Well no wonder the good guy doesn't need head protection >_> if a sword goes right through mail.
If you stab hard enough yes. Chain mail was more useful deflecting blows.
Chainmail protects from a slash not a stab.
With a stab, the edge of the blade is cutting individual rings.
Sweeeeeet....love Ivanhoe and love Anthony Andrews~
do I ever hate Normans, saxons forever.
So yes to John, no to Greg?
Does anyone who made the move know you won l't cut through a chainmail?
Meat packing plants still use a form of chain mail arm guards.
People do not get punched backward when taking a bullet either, and how many cars were ever locked in earlier movies? Or the sound of space crafts or even explosions it space.
If you want to complain over something like this in a movie you find something in everyone.
Wow. This was so badly done. Just...Wow.
Why is there a character wearing heraldry (English) from 1337 over 100 years after this story?
Because it's a film , not a historical documentary. Braveheart pissed all over historical fact , still a good movie.
Cadê o filme 🇧🇷 duplado 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
This seems a little cheesy to me…
Made for TV movies are so shoddy looking.
Qual filme?
Ivanhoe
It took him long enough. He won by a fluke of timing.
Perspective anyone? I used to get a bit nervous playing a tennis tournament, you gotta laugh no?
Im torn between Elizabeth Taylor or Oliva Hussey as the most beautiful Rebecca.
I love Olivia Hussey, but there's no comparison. No woman who ever lived looked as good as Elizabeth Taylor in Ivanhoe.
Why choose ...
Hussey does a much better job of conveying Rebecca's strength of character, which is what makes de Bois-Guilbert fall in love with her. Also, neither in the book nor in the 1982 version does he actually assault her (Sanders grabs her and kisses her).
Another thing that bothers me is that one minute Ivanhoe is still weak from his wound, and the outlaws take him to Sherwood to recover, and seemingly on the following day he's apparently fit enough to fight in Front-de-Bouef's castle - a big change from the book, in which he has also been brought there and is tended by Rebecca, as In the 1982 version.
@@Heide-ul3qp yes the 80's version is my favorite and James Mason was a great Issac of York.
Shoutout to my homies in te12e
Ivanhoe should have lost. Gielbert had him until he stopped to stare at Rebecca.
Er wollte nicht, dass Rebecca brennt ! Ich hätte es auch getan. Das ist der furchtbarste Tod, den es gibt.
Jeder, der ein wenig menschlich ist, hätte es getan. Er wollte nicht, dass Rebecca brennt, es ist der grausamste und schmerzhafteste Tod, den es gibt.
Realmente ...era una bruja
Very poor if you compare with the 1952 version with Robert Taylor and Elizebeth Taylor.
Guess you haven't read the book.
@@Heide-ul3qp I’ve read the book. But I’m not commenting on the authenticity of the movie in reference to the book. I’m commenting on how well the movie was made.
This version is so badly done I am amazed anybody posted it to RUclips. Even the Robert Taylor movie is much better than this.
lol så kan man uttycka det :P
0:15 what does he say?
It's French, which the Normans preferred to speak. I think it's "laissez aller", meaning(?) let them go (at it).
@@JLee-rt6ve thank you
Laissez-aller or "let go" Correct French but a little odd sounding in this context.
lol at 2:52
she's growing up there prefer her in romio juliet
so armors doesn't work.
Иванко
Olivia Hussey was smoking hot.
funny, dickie 1 didn't speak english 😉
Hmm, so Robin Hood was just standing around waiting for the woman to be burnt alive… and I thought he was the good guy.. King Richard spent just under a year in England in all the time he was king.. he was really a King of France with a nice holiday home in England.. King John would later become king and rule ruthlessly and will be forced to sign the Magna Carta… not sure what happened to Robin Hood, but I guess he turned into Sean Connery..😂
Richard Coeur de Lion was never King of France; he was King of England, Duke of Normandy, Gascony & of Aquitaine, among many other titles.
But Richard heart lion never spoke english...... Funny)
1952 Invahoe is miles above this.
No, this is the best Ivanhoe movie.
@@ulrichvonliechtenstein6138 No.
@@avortinus6031 This version is more faithful to the book. The 1952 may be more exciting but this one conveys the ambiguity of the final battle in the book.
It’s just a flesh wound.
Dreadful TIMES !!!g
AMOUR*!*g
Not as good as the one with Robert Taylor
Pannkaka
Wow. Some of the worst fight staging I've ever seen. I would expect a better scene in a high school play.
James Mason is the only good actor here
Never liked this version of Ivanhoe.Anthony Andrews was Terrible.really forgettable.......
Boy, I am sure James Jason, Sam Neill, and a lot of the actors in this dog would want their names scrubbed! What a monumental stink bomb!
2:36 When you watch the content of the Hunter Biden laptop...
How tedious. The laptop was severely compromised by interference. Its evidentiary value is nil.
@@DanBeech-ht7sw ... and Joe Biden is the best president ever! 🤡💩🤣💯
@@srenjrgensen1468 I wouldn't say that, but he's not a bad one. He's certainly dug the USA out of the economic mess left by Trump
@@DanBeech-ht7sw Record trillion debt for the US is really great. 🤡👍
@@srenjrgensen1468 Trump massively increased the deficit.
Biden has been bringing it down.
This is Very Poor Choreography , Probably the Movie is as Bad ! Look for 1952 Ivanhoe .
Ivanhoe spends the entire movie recovering from wounds received in the Ashby joust. He's in no fit state to throw a sword around with abandon and the choreography matches that. Watch the entire film sometime.
@@aaronleverton4221 not worth it to watch , will stick with 1952 .
@@angel-rq4fz You haven't seen it, how would you know?
@@aaronleverton4221 few minutes was more than enough to see the poor acting and special effects , dialogues ,etc....
@@angel-rq4fz Yeah, nah. James Mason and Sam Neil are poor actors? Olivia Hussey, Anthony Andrews? Nope, not in any way.
I own the 1952 on VHS, have done since 1989. I got it because of this. I wish I had this and the '97 version as well. Just as I have two versions of The Mark of Zorro and three versions of The Four Feathers.
false history as it always is. such a stupid movie
One of the very worst adaptations, ever.
The maiden Rebecca is only guilty of being a total babe