Nice job. Just got stein bollard, waiting on winch part in couple days. Going to be a learning experience to see what all winch can do. What rigging rope you running? I've got 5/8 sampson stable braid and double eye x ring dead sling for top anchor.
Rob, it's an amazing tool, and it can do a lot if you know how to use it. It is hard to see perfectly in the video, but that is probably a 14" red oak leaning at around 50 degrees over that power line. Stood it right up with minimal physical effort on my end. Granted I was able to set the rope at a good height and had a good strong/high block location. In this video I'm using a 5/8 stable braid just because it was necessary to handle the weight of that particular tree. I would use a different sized stable braid depending on what was needed, essentially. Nice thing about the Stein is you can add another pulley to the rigging line and double the pulling power of the winch. It's not as fast as the GRCS, but it beats the hell out of using a fiddle block or 5:1 set up hooked to a standard portawrap. It's also really nice to have a big bollard with lots of surface area for rigging down wood without the winch. It's got a bit of a different feel than a traditional portawrap which can take a little adjusting to, depending on your ground guy. In tight rigging situations you can get lots of extra control from this device. If you have to preload the rigging line for every cut, or stand up a significant amount of branches in a day, you are going to be moving very slow, especially if you only have one man on the ground to run it. BUT it adds so much control. Sometimes you need all the control you can get. Hopefully you quoted for the extra time! Definitely don't use it everyday, but I wouldn't leave home without it in the truck, or the Prius in this case. Only thing you really have to beware of is breaking your rigging point. Winch is definitely capable of doing that depending on what you are trying to do. Also, as with any rigging scenario, make sure everything in the system is rated for the amount of weight you're working with. I'm sure you know this already, but tree work is all about double checking! As for the x-ring sling...I've never used them...I'm sure it would work, but I don't think you are going to get it to work as smooth or as safe as if you had a large rigging block as your anchor. The rope is going to "jump" or "skip" once its under a lot of tension because you're going to have a tighter rope angle and more friction from the rings. Seems like it would to me anyway! I understand rings are good for rigging/lowering because they add friction and are solid/low maintenance, but I've never heard of them being used in any sort of lifting or redirecting scenario...You'll figure it out. If you're in the business enough to buy a stein for 1200 you ought to have a good sized DMM block. WLL is like 9000lbs and it's 350 bucks. No brainer. Good luck and be safe.
Nice find. not a fan of hand crank winches or come-alongs though. Theyre too slow. Double Pulleys, like a set of fours, can be pulled much faster so it doesnt give the tree a chance think of falling the wrong way once it approaches its moment.
Apologies for the late response. I wouldn't use this winch to pull a tree over. It's for lifting. It stands up a 14" red oak from a serious lean. You maybe could do that with a 5:1 set up and a porty, but I do think it would take longer. To each his own. Don't have a come-along and I would use a 5:1 to pull trees over or hydraulic winch. Wouldn't cross my mind to implement this tool for that purpose. Cheers!
Nice job. Just got stein bollard, waiting on winch part in couple days. Going to be a learning experience to see what all winch can do. What rigging rope you running? I've got 5/8 sampson stable braid and double eye x ring dead sling for top anchor.
Rob, it's an amazing tool, and it can do a lot if you know how to use it. It is hard to see perfectly in the video, but that is probably a 14" red oak leaning at around 50 degrees over that power line. Stood it right up with minimal physical effort on my end. Granted I was able to set the rope at a good height and had a good strong/high block location.
In this video I'm using a 5/8 stable braid just because it was necessary to handle the weight of that particular tree. I would use a different sized stable braid depending on what was needed, essentially.
Nice thing about the Stein is you can add another pulley to the rigging line and double the pulling power of the winch. It's not as fast as the GRCS, but it beats the hell out of using a fiddle block or 5:1 set up hooked to a standard portawrap. It's also really nice to have a big bollard with lots of surface area for rigging down wood without the winch. It's got a bit of a different feel than a traditional portawrap which can take a little adjusting to, depending on your ground guy.
In tight rigging situations you can get lots of extra control from this device. If you have to preload the rigging line for every cut, or stand up a significant amount of branches in a day, you are going to be moving very slow, especially if you only have one man on the ground to run it. BUT it adds so much control. Sometimes you need all the control you can get. Hopefully you quoted for the extra time! Definitely don't use it everyday, but I wouldn't leave home without it in the truck, or the Prius in this case.
Only thing you really have to beware of is breaking your rigging point. Winch is definitely capable of doing that depending on what you are trying to do. Also, as with any rigging scenario, make sure everything in the system is rated for the amount of weight you're working with. I'm sure you know this already, but tree work is all about double checking!
As for the x-ring sling...I've never used them...I'm sure it would work, but I don't think you are going to get it to work as smooth or as safe as if you had a large rigging block as your anchor. The rope is going to "jump" or "skip" once its under a lot of tension because you're going to have a tighter rope angle and more friction from the rings. Seems like it would to me anyway! I understand rings are good for rigging/lowering because they add friction and are solid/low maintenance, but I've never heard of them being used in any sort of lifting or redirecting scenario...You'll figure it out. If you're in the business enough to buy a stein for 1200 you ought to have a good sized DMM block. WLL is like 9000lbs and it's 350 bucks. No brainer. Good luck and be safe.
I bought the same rcw3001 but how you srews the winch handle when i try everthing turn
Thanks
Nice find. not a fan of hand crank winches or come-alongs though. Theyre too slow. Double Pulleys, like a set of fours, can be pulled much faster so it doesnt give the tree a chance think of falling the wrong way once it approaches its moment.
Apologies for the late response. I wouldn't use this winch to pull a tree over. It's for lifting. It stands up a 14" red oak from a serious lean. You maybe could do that with a 5:1 set up and a porty, but I do think it would take longer. To each his own.
Don't have a come-along and I would use a 5:1 to pull trees over or hydraulic winch. Wouldn't cross my mind to implement this tool for that purpose.
Cheers!