The SP-404MKII is Now a Synth Too! (SP-404MKII 4.04 Firmware Update)

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  • Опубликовано: 8 ноя 2024

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  • @Androsynth75
    @Androsynth75 7 месяцев назад +20

    Roland has really stepped up their update game. All of my Roland devices are drastically more capable than when I bought them now. I was NOT expecting the 404 to get all this though.

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah this was a BIG one haha

  • @Dork2099
    @Dork2099 7 месяцев назад +10

    Thank you for covering this. The sound generator is the single most exciting 404 update for me since this beauty was released!

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah it's super cool!

    • @tuesss
      @tuesss 7 месяцев назад

      Interesting. I love synthesisers, but I thought that was the least important part of the update, seeing as it wouldn't let me do anything I couldn't already do using either existing FX or going the easy route and importing some single-cycle waveforms. Is there something I'm missing? I have yet to update my 404 as I'm worried about the crashes, even though I'd love to test that looper (definitely something difficult to achieve before the update, although possible to emulate using delays).

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад

      @@tuesss Nothing you're missing! Just that different people have very different needs and uses :) A VERY important thing to always keep in mind.

  • @loubang100
    @loubang100 7 месяцев назад +2

    Great video. Using the skip back function for resampling and sound design is genius

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks so much! I agree, super cool way to work.

  • @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
    @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked 7 месяцев назад +5

    Very cool that the 404 update, with huge features, is on 04/04, and called v40.4.

  • @Zeal808
    @Zeal808 7 месяцев назад +12

    Happy 404Day🧡

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you!

  • @triplenator
    @triplenator 7 месяцев назад +8

    Happy 404 day!

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you!

  • @guitarfriends2163
    @guitarfriends2163 7 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you guy. I think you just showed which are possibilities of this tool. Nothing new in the world, but a cool add on for a sampler, and reamplrer, and resampler...

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад

      Thanks so much!

  • @Densmode3dp
    @Densmode3dp 7 месяцев назад +3

    This thing is so temping, be a nice upgrade from my Sp-202/Dr-202 setup

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад +1

      It's definitely a huge update for sure!

  • @wiggesobk
    @wiggesobk 7 месяцев назад +3

    Cool update. I have to try it out.

  • @bloopbleepnothinghere
    @bloopbleepnothinghere 7 месяцев назад +8

    My only gripe with this device is all the obscure key combos you have to remember. Muscle memory us crucial, stop using it for a month and it's hard to get back into. Now with even more features, there are many more key combos. Makes my brain hurt approaching my unit now.

    • @Hakucho64
      @Hakucho64 7 месяцев назад +1

      This is what scares me off even looking sideways at buying this, also because I have other gear that I don't know as well as I could.

    • @stuartdavid8493
      @stuartdavid8493 7 месяцев назад

      It’s a shit show.

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah the SP-404MKII can do SO much now that I don't even bother trying to memorize all of the shortcuts, just the ones that pertain to how I want to use it. It's not bad that way at all.

    • @bloopbleepnothinghere
      @bloopbleepnothinghere 7 месяцев назад

      @@FreeBeat I think there is something in that. I was heading to update mine to 4.04 and then while I was trying to figure out the pain of finding an SD reader; why am I even upgrading? I don't need a looper, I don't need any of the new functionality. Sometimes you need less, not more. I know some people will find the looper so valuable, but I don't.
      I bought a Deluge in 2017, and it kept getting more and more features, and I felt like I must use them all. End of the day, I don't need a lot of it. Nothing wrong with having a huge amount of functionality and only using what you gel with.
      I'm stoked Roland is supporting all this stuff, but I don't need it all, so no point in sweating learning all the things.
      Still, Roland workflow is some of the most obscure, non intuitive stuff I've ever come across. Even my beloved TR8s is a minefield of weird button combos. It's almost a Roland tradition to force creativity through their weird UX.😅
      I love my gear. I feel privileged to have so much of it to have an opinion.
      Keep on making cool shit everyone! Our tools, as weird and awkward as they are, provide creative outlets that we should feel lucky to have❤️

    • @christianwheeler8386
      @christianwheeler8386 7 месяцев назад

      You learn what you use it’s not bad. But there is a learning curve. My first week I hated it and was going to return it. After a month it was more essential to me than my deluge.

  • @e-dub808
    @e-dub808 7 месяцев назад +4

    Great Video!!! Happy 4😮4 Day…!

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад +1

      Same to you!

  • @dustyaudio
    @dustyaudio 7 месяцев назад +4

    This looks like a good set of additions! Im stuck on the 404sx & MPC One but every update the mk2 gets has me thinking…

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад

      What would you use it for that you can't already do? Not trying to talk you out of it, I just want to help avoid GAS when possible lol

    • @dustyaudio
      @dustyaudio 7 месяцев назад

      @@FreeBeat would be a sell/trade situation for me. A comparison between the 404/mpc looper would help. But the Koala update is where I’m most interested. I get a lot more done with my ipad than tracking to the desktop these days

  • @siniquezu
    @siniquezu 7 месяцев назад +1

    Now I'm tempted to get one

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад

      It's pretty sweet!

  • @IsshmanGarcia
    @IsshmanGarcia 7 месяцев назад +2

    As long as your Sound Design works for YOU, F*** everyone else. One tip though: start with the Super Filter instead of Filter and Drive. The Super Filter let's you carve way more out AND it has an LFO built into it.

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад

      Thanks so much!

  • @thelefthandofcreation1617
    @thelefthandofcreation1617 7 месяцев назад +1

    This is what the people need to see

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад

      Thanks so much!

  • @joegrant413
    @joegrant413 7 месяцев назад +1

    Love your vids! Speaking as a GAS musician, the only platforms I haven't tried that my YT influencers seem authentically attached to are the Elekton stuff and the SP-404. I have MPC, DAWS, OP-1, RD-9, and other things that can do what the 404 does. So I'm hoping you can enlighten me on why the SP404 is worth trying.

    • @user-rv8wb1nl1b
      @user-rv8wb1nl1b 7 месяцев назад +2

      if you have any newer mpc , then you are set , unless GAS kicks in . . . . . In fact the mpc's wipe the floor with this .

    • @joegrant413
      @joegrant413 7 месяцев назад

      Thx. My first and only MPC has been the Key 61. @@user-rv8wb1nl1b

    • @BDKabrini
      @BDKabrini 7 месяцев назад +1

      i have similar stuff ... Elektron etc. .... The Sp404 MAY not be necessary since you have ALL that , but I as well as many others use to end the chain bcus of the EFXs and sampling. But mainly EFX for me. I pair my Syntakt wit it and ish comes out nice. I think Nowaday its almost stand alone. BUT really good with particular EXT gear like TR8s or a Jun8a ... It's like Cheese on White Rice. You'd be surprise how much it changes things

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад

      It all comes down to workflow. If you like the MPC workflow, then the Key61 is probably about as good of a device as you can get haha. If you're looking to try a different workflow then for sure give it a shot, but between all of your gear you can do everything that the 404mkII can.

    • @user-rv8wb1nl1b
      @user-rv8wb1nl1b 7 месяцев назад

      @@FreeBeat Nah , it is not just workflow , it is also controls , the UI , the power , the options and specifications , . . . .oh and the size .

  • @rexcellencemagee6729
    @rexcellencemagee6729 7 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you FB, I didn’t even know about this! I do know there was a leak the t8 would do small samples, I rarely believe leaks but this one will be extremely useful should it happen. I recently pre-ordered the seqtrack, and now I’m looking forward battles between the two! I do use the Volca Sample 2 and the 8 pad akai MPC Ana host of other things. My main technique was using the Blackbox and I do have plans to get the tangerine. The great thing about sd cards is to complete a sample on one sampler, btw I use a AppStore sampler I forget the name, I’ll let you know when I find it, it’s by far the best I’ve seen! Your lucky! When I say what was doing, this video would have been done! lol,peace!looks like I have a lot to work on with this! I didn’t even know it was on 4.04! I’m still on 2.5!

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад

      Definitely time to update your 404!

  • @shuasaladbar
    @shuasaladbar 7 месяцев назад +1

    I navigate the screen by taking a rough cut with my start and end points and zoom in after to zero in the length.

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад

      I should probably do it that way haha

    • @maikvanrossum
      @maikvanrossum 7 месяцев назад

      Yes and use SHIFT + START or END knobs to zoom instead.

  • @DavidDeLuge
    @DavidDeLuge 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great video. I need to get mine updated. What are your thought on the Smpltrek vs the SP404MKII?

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад

      Very different devices for sure, probably too different to compare actually. SmplTrek is the most directly "catered to songwriters" device on the market IMO. The 404mkII is very powerful, but if you're after that specific song structure type workflow the SmplTrek is the answer.

  • @Stevali1966
    @Stevali1966 7 месяцев назад +2

    This or the sampltrek?

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад

      Way too different to pick haha.

  • @acaposotta
    @acaposotta 7 месяцев назад +1

    Not actually. No one is answering me on a point: frequency changes are not saved. 😢 they just follow the pitch so knob use is just for preview 😢

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад +1

      You can trigger them with the sub pad

    • @acaposotta
      @acaposotta 6 месяцев назад

      @@FreeBeat yes but the exact tone created is not held. :(

    • @Synthokatm
      @Synthokatm 6 месяцев назад +1

      Same here

  • @kisho2679
    @kisho2679 7 месяцев назад +1

    there are alredy lots of synths available. DJs need live looper with tactile features for creative improvisations.

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад +1

      Not everyone who uses the 404MKII is a DJ ;)

  • @cutdafukup
    @cutdafukup 7 месяцев назад +2

    If we get stems next it's a wrap. It's kind of already a wrap though

    • @simonstrash
      @simonstrash 7 месяцев назад

      what do you mean by stems? i think we did get it in this update

    • @Retainedxkept
      @Retainedxkept 7 месяцев назад +1

      You can get stems from koala

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад

      Yeah stems would be insane haha

  • @TwinCitiesOxygen
    @TwinCitiesOxygen 7 месяцев назад +1

    Can it do keygroups to play samples across a keyboard or just one samples across a limited range

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад +1

      you can't specifically do keygroups but I've just set up some manually multisampled "patches" :)

    • @TwinCitiesOxygen
      @TwinCitiesOxygen 7 месяцев назад

      @@FreeBeat i wonder why they haven’t added that feature

  • @vznquest
    @vznquest 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the video. Do you know if the sounds are actual waveforms generated by the 404, or just samples?

    • @DurtyCardiologist
      @DurtyCardiologist 7 месяцев назад +1

      I believe it's in the name! "Generator"

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад +1

      I do believe it's generating them!

  • @littlehopeleft
    @littlehopeleft 7 месяцев назад +1

    Had it for a while and altough I do miss the pitch feature and effects, I do not miss the feel of the pads, the shortcuts and the size of it. I am a minimalist guy and the Smpltrek sits with me much better for the moment. Still, cool vid.

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you're liking the SmplTrek!

  • @noisetheorem
    @noisetheorem 7 месяцев назад +2

    So many cool features…but still two 2 things they left off: setting loop length in bar/beat and saving FX. I don’t get why those things don’t exist here.

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад +2

      What do you mean by setting loop length in bar/beat?

    • @Zeal808
      @Zeal808 7 месяцев назад +5

      You can do both of those things actually

    • @noisetheorem
      @noisetheorem 7 месяцев назад

      @@Zeal808 ok. Tell me how. How can I save the FX with one bank or project so when I change, they change with it.
      Give me page numbers in the manual

    • @noisetheorem
      @noisetheorem 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@FreeBeat I have a sound…I want its loop length to be exactly 8 bars. I set the loop to 8 bars.

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад +1

      @@noisetheorem That was added in for this update!

  • @TwinCitiesOxygen
    @TwinCitiesOxygen 7 месяцев назад +1

    Can you do keygroups?

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад

      Not directly sadly :(

  • @robinr22
    @robinr22 7 месяцев назад +1

    Is it actually just playing back samples of single cycles waveforms? Rather than actually synthesising?

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад +1

      I'm honestly not sure, but I know it's super convenient lol

    • @robinr22
      @robinr22 7 месяцев назад

      @@FreeBeat 🙂

  • @achook9474
    @achook9474 7 месяцев назад +1

    does anyone know if you can change the portamento speed so its slower to be able to make bass glides and west coast wire sounds? i mean whats the point of having portamento if its instant?

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад

      Not sure, sorry!

  • @derykmoates377
    @derykmoates377 7 месяцев назад +1

    Could u make a patch that actually sounds good please??? Not sure what that junk was supposed to be lol

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад +2

      This was just impromptu in a live stream, sorry it wasn't up to your standards lol

  • @stuartdavid8493
    @stuartdavid8493 7 месяцев назад +1

    Why? If I want a synth, I’d get a synth.

  • @rodneymcintyre8544
    @rodneymcintyre8544 7 месяцев назад +2

    A terrible video regarding this update. He hasn’t learned how to use it so his demonstration/explanation is unhelpful at best. Many of his videos are like this. 1/5 stars for this clown.

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад +4

      VERY early into the livestream I mention that the sound generator was the only feature I'd gotten to spend any time with, and even that was limited. This was never intended to be a tutorial or anything. 1/5 for your comment lol.

    • @rodneymcintyre8544
      @rodneymcintyre8544 7 месяцев назад

      @@FreeBeat then why are you making a tutorial about an upgrade you don’t know anything about? 1/5 stars stands.

    • @FreeBeat
      @FreeBeat  7 месяцев назад +2

      @@rodneymcintyre8544 I literally just said that my stream was never intended to be a tutorial lol. My weekly streams are all casual hangouts. Chill.

    • @rodneymcintyre8544
      @rodneymcintyre8544 7 месяцев назад

      @@FreeBeat you’re a joke. You should chill and stop posting this nonsense.

    • @zacharywylie1813
      @zacharywylie1813 7 месяцев назад

      @@rodneymcintyre8544 rodneymcintyre8544