In order to access your videos or to purchase lock picks and beginner thief kits, there should be a code that a person must enter to show they have a locksmith license. Otherwise, thieves use your knowledge, tools and step-by-step guides as a one-stop breaking and entering site that put vulnerable people like me in harm's way.
@@CherylNewmanNonPCNewsandViews - uh no. That's the same fallacy as saying that we shouldn't test computer security. "Security through obscurity" is a wrong-headed notion, as it handily ensures that *only* bad actors have the knowledge- the people likely to abuse it. Moreover, without knowing what's insecure and why, people can never improve their security, nor is there any incentive for manufacturers to fix their products. Moreover, thieves tend not to sit around and pick locks. They break windows, break weak doors, cut bike locks. They're opportunists, and value the quickest and most efficent method. A policy of official ignorance is the enemy of security every single time- in any field. If the information isn't out there, then you can't make good decisions when your threat analysis tells you that you have a security-critical installation. Commercial companies can and will sell you "security theatre" (hi, Masterlock) to make the big dollars, while knowing they're only providing the illusion of security. Sunlight is the best disinfectant, and informed customers/users help make vendors honest. You don't need to worry about the lock nerds on youtube, anyway. You need to worry about the guy with the housebrick, and your easily-accessible downstairs window. Worried about your bike? It's the passer-by who just happens to be carrying bolt croppers that you need to worry about, not the locksporter who'd need ten minutes to pick their way in.
@@invisibleoc This isn't a computer that has virus and malware protection software and can have code written for new hackers. They also don't sell beginner hacking kits w step-by-step visuals. Furthermore when you say key manufacturers can use a site like this to improve their products, then they also need ppl like me to comment on such sites that destabilizes my safety. As well, this site isn't teaching smash-and-grab burglary, but detailed ways to break into any lock along w beginner kit sales. The only ignorance here is comparing apples to oranges.
These videos are a complete revelation. Before I started watching them I was completely ignorant about locks, and basically I thought one lock was as good as another - boy, have I had my eyes opened! Thanks, Bill. I really appreciate the trouble you go to when you make these vids.
now you know that basically all locks are worthless to someone with enough desire. Locks merely keep the honest honest and locksmiths employed. Burglars usually just kick the door in, no bumping nor picking needed lol
Its insane. They should make this sort of thing mandatory viewing in school. I mean, its not like they're bothering to teach our children how to _spell_ any more, so the least they can do is teach them useful life information like this...
Never in a millions years could I have answered the question "what do castrated goats & lock picking have to do with each other?" And now I can answer that with 100% confidence if ever asked. Friken sweet!
Oh my goodness, that "spring loading" the bump key is genius. I had to bump a lock I couldn't pick just last night and was even having a little bit of difficulty bumping it. I eventually got it, but it puts a bit of strain on the hands and fingers having to pull out the key every time. Thank you for this video.
BosnianBill, Thank you for producing these great videos! I am disabled and bored out of my freaking mind. My nephew is a locksmith up in Oregon and he got me a set of picks as a joke (he doesnt think I can pick locks I guess) I have pretty much picked every lock I can find around this place (had a problem with a few but after watching your videos I have gottem much better) I have now ordered a set from Sparrow and got a 39 piece bump key set and a set of jigglers.. I still have problems with my hands most days and cant do anything but on those days I fill it with watching your videos..
That's awesome man. My dad's disabled and out of work too and I always tell him he needs a hobby. He's got a bad back so he can't do anything active, which is what he's done his whole life. I don't know what's wrong with you but I think it's really cool that you're nephew even sent you lockpicks as my cousins can't even take care of themselves (they're degenerates.)
Not sure about where You live and how disabled You are but since You can pick locks with a certain ease You could make a living out of it where I live. Great hobby either way.
You should learn to pick with your mouth, then challenge your Nephew to a lock picking dual next time you see him, preferably in front of his girlfriend.
Dear Sir, I would like to express my deepest gratitude for not only your videos but to you ( you're like a mentor that I've never had the chance to meet ). I studied your videos and downloaded a lot of books about lock picking for having a lot of sudden interests in it. I stick to the 2 "Golden Rules". Once my friend need somebody to open the computer lab coz only one person holding the keys but she wasn't there.I am an ordinary English teacher, sir. He turned to me and I opened the wafer padlock with a paper clip and the grill lock with a fluffy dust brush's round edge ( it's a twisted wire handle type ). But all sudden a lot of people looked up to me, even some worry bout my newly unknown shown potential.Just wanna say that you inspire the whole world. Thank You Very Much :)
And when you consider just how many dishonest people there are... I dont lock many of my valuables up, any more. I've adopted a new technique of "keeping it within eyesight" if it really matters to me. 😒 The only lock I've seen pass both this channel and LPLs channel is the Bowley lock with those 2 internal steel cylinders. Resistant to bumping, basically impervious to picking, solid steel construction resists melting, no plastic mechanics... its basically what all locks _would_ be like if people weren't happy with buying crap locks instead.
My friend, YOU, that's right, YOU, make the best instructional videos on all of RUclips. This was excellence from beginning to end. Clear, concise, complete and fun to watch.
Hello what's up my people I'm disable but that does not make me do bad things in life,what it does is make me & my mine think a little better like how to work on my car which i personally thank the you tube app. For showing me the good ways of working while Beeing disable I've learned a lot threw this you tube app. And i would like to say Thank you (RUclips.com) For helping me learne lots of skills and tecnics. That i never new ...yours truly Mr. E doggie dog .
LOL The bike ad at the end just set me off laughing at work. Everyone came to my office to see what was so funny. It real funny to me because I'm having the same "discussion" with my wife. ;)
holy crap I just made a bump key. just bumped EVERY lock in my house. guess those are also being replaced. again...damn it bill, costing me money by teaching me yet another skill. thanks.wheres that video, bill. still waiting. snow aint that bad.
There is no need to remove the entire shoulder of the key ... cutting it back about the thickness of a quarter is sufficient ... the pins will re-seat and move the key back out to the ready position after striking it .
To Samuel, the lock you are bumping is looking for /or needing the key tip to engage the cam. Next time you bump it open, turn the key and then cut off your rubber washers. press the key in to engage the lock. You did not say what type of lock it is but some profile cylinders use this system. Might be C.E.S. but I'm not sure.
I have a door lock at home that i need to jiggle dramatically as it always sticks. I have a few spare keys. I think I will file off the stop point and add a few sheep tail bands as shown here. It will make it much easier. I won't need to file the rest down to a bump key though. I'll basically just replace the stop point shoulder with the rubber so it springs much easier.
Thanks, Bill. Is It likely they used the same type of spring for all the pins? If they had used springs of varying springiness, would that have made bumping it significantly more difficult? Thx.
Tried making my first bump key and ended up with key stuck inside of lock and couldn't pull it out. I'm guessing that I filed my grooves down too deep. Was wondering if that's what I did wrong?
Thank you! I'm going to play around with this, so I'm thankful for this advice. I won't try my front door until I'm reasonably sure I know what I'm doing. 👍
Pimp ass vid Bill!!!! Good knowledge, shown the correct way!!! I learned this from you about 6 years ago in another video of yours. I really need to send you some 💵..... your knowledge, which has become mine has been more than useful. I’m very grateful brother, ttyl!!
My god I bought a lock like this, i'm in UK. I cannot find a single lock that I am able to pick because of the strong curves. I am so glad it's not just me and that you found problems as well. I want bump keys now.
Question from a newbie re filing: To me it looks like the file is too big for filing the pin positions that are close together. In the process of filing one grove wouldn't you take out the adjacent pin? TIA and thanks for the interesting vids.
Hi bill, i have a question, where do you get the lockpicks/pickguns? There is time to change tires on the car before the winter comes and i have a lock on the celler door that i lost my keys for, Can you recomend a secure site where i can order pickguns or lockpicks? becuase i dont wan to order a ironcutter or motorcutter for 500 dollars., it will be a whole lot of mess and very expensive. I hope you answer, and im very thankful if youre reading this. Best regards / Otto
Does your bump key have to have 5 grooves? Or can I just get a random key Nd shave it down? Nd even when I shave it down does it work on most lockz or only 1???
Any idea if you could cut keys with a milling machine? Don't have a key cutter, but I do have a 3/4 size Bridgeport (actually a clone of a clausing) in the shop.... Thinking of rotating the head to a 45 degree angle so the corner of an endmill would cut the notch. Either that or get a replacement cutter for a key cutting machine and make an arbor for it.... My thinking is that with setting up a way to hold the key in a repeatable position, I could figure out a chart that translates cut numbers into thousandths that I can dial in on the feed cranks. Have the key vertical, and then just start at the top, set the depth of cut, do the pass. Then raise the knee up to the next position, reset the depth, and make the cut. If I can figure it out and make it work, I might do a video on code cutting keys on a milling machine...
I have done locks for years and only used my pics. Never tried bump Keys before, but after seeing this video I will start playing with them. A Kwikset lock should be a piece of cake. But you won't be able to do that with a medico. LOL
I love your videos. Lock picking is something I have always wanted to learn, but due to the fact that NC has a law stating only licensed locksmiths can own lockpicks, it's put a damper on my fun
toool.us/laws.html says otherwise. According to them, you can own all the lockpicks you want - you just can't charge someone else for locksmithing services unless you're a licensed locksmith. "North Carolina does not criminalize possession, but lockpicking demonstrations in that state should always be free so that they never fall within the definition of "locksmith services." Locksmiths must be licensed, and there is a Locksmith Licensing Board."
Very cool Bill. I don't normally bump or rake. I mostly SPP. However, I have been trying to learn how to bump correctly for emergency situations at work. anyway, great video.
Excellent video. I will probably never have to do this myself, but is is exemplary of the 'handmade, tricky, generic-looking tools' this activity requires. I've been known to mill quite a few 'handy little tools' in my bathroom with a dremel, and you can't go wrong with a set of diamond needle files (like sandpaper that never fades), Personally, I think bill would do well to go full-AvE and do a few full-length recordings of him making a custom pick, or grinding out Master 410 cutaway.
Hey Bill, how can you tell which bump keys are for what? I have a set from Sparrows, but only the ones for weiser yale and schlage are marked. Its the 19 key set just having a hard time figuring out which ones are for which locks I have a bunch of different locks I got from a jobsite I was on after the demolish, they were being thrown out so just asked if I could have them to see how they are to pick and practice on.
The thing that's throwing me off is 4 different keys fit the same weiser lock I was trying. But can't get it open with the bump. Was going to try your spring or rubber idea.
I heard certain bump keys will break the lock making it unusable after by the regular key. Is there something different about this lock and or bump key? Or was I misinformed and bump keys do not break the lock?
+Drew M some locks also have a small ballbearing in a pin chamber ,and along the side of the barrell there will be holes in line with them.this allows a builders key to operate then the home owners key when turned will drop this ball into a hole .this will block the builders key out.called construction keying.picking and bumping can drop the ball out.one of a few possibilities
I know how to make a lock no one will steal from you with. Get a lock like this, then get a master lock case. When they fail to pick it, they don't want to be around for anyone to see they tried.
about the bump key... I got the idea of the depth of the grooves but you had the original key so you knew you needed 5 grooves. If you did not have it, how would you make one? I am not challenging you anyway it's a matter of understanding. I help people that need to open lock due to lost keys and just to give you my background; my first padlock was opened by accident. I was bored and I found a padlock. I also had a paper clip and just playing with I started understanding the mechanism of it by feel. Most combination locks I use the feel of the pins. 😇
+Gilvam Carvalho the length of the key can reach the 6 pin .if you look at the edge that hits the pin to bump it the tip will be 6.on some locks anyway, all brands are spaced different so make one of each .
Would this possibly work on a ignition switch? I have a old blazer, lost keys, I need to replace the switch, and do not want to drill, it's a 95 Chevy blazer, of can a key be cut by vin# ? Thanks,
Question I live in Ireland and most locks are Yale if I make a bump key for a Yale lock will it work for every standard Yale lock and how do I find out where to put the grooves in the bump key
I have a few of old Yale super pin padlocks that I haven't been able to bump or neither pick! There driving me crazy! I've tried to machine gun the bump key but I only get a false set! I got the padlocks with out keys( I collect Yale locks) I want to make keys for them, I've tried to inpresionate a key but I've messed up about a dozen key blanks are you interested in trying to pick them Bill?
I left the shoulders on my keys but instead of trying to rap it in and turn it with perfect timing,I slipped an elastic hair tie thru the key "eye"put my fingers thru the 2 loops protruding on eitherside, stretched the elastic over the knob or lock ,put a 90 degree twist in my hand position and put the key into the lock, Now to open it you justpull the key and let it go -like a pinball machine and the lock will be opened in 1 or2 shots because you don't have to time the twisting action, it's done for you. the hair tie is cloth covered and 2" in diameter. I can open my two deadbolt front door locks faster and more quietly than with the house keys.
Ok Bos, when you get to the part where you remove the stop at the back of the key, maybe leave a small portion of it so the rubber washer stack can be smaller? It just seems icky to remove the whole thing...
At some point toool.nl had a list of bump proof locks for home front doors, but now it is gone. Which locks can you recommend? I live den Denmark, but will to buy from wherever =)
bosnianbill What about disc tumbler locks? Especially ones made by Abloy. Can't find any videos of even the 100 year old ones picked. Nothing at all for the new locks. All I can find is people drilling them.
bosnianbill Why do people still buy these locks? Most of them fail so easily. It's not like the abloy ones are expensive. Should small amount matter when selecting lock to guard your house? Maybe people don't just care. Robbers usually use brute force anyway.
That was fast. According to Evva that lock is 100% bump proof and extremely pick resitant. That just shows locks are only to help keep people honest. A $280 lock should be a bit harder. nice explination.
@Bosnianbill if i presume well most likely you understand ''nasi'' :D ..svaka ccast na odlicnom videu,i objasnjenju bump key-a.. nego, jesi li prod'o motor :D :D :D.. motor je STRAVAAA dobar! Pozdrav i LP. good luck in your future videos :D zdravvoooo
Nice bump demonstration. Also gorgeous bike. I've a ZX-6R myself, probably a little late but for anyone else looking for advice giving your girlfriend occasional rides on the back might help. Start it slow and without filtering too much but that should save your bikes. That said I bought mine with 100 miles so maybe I shouldn't be helping too much.
So it doesn't matter what the key you are using as a bump is. The important part is filing equal to the lowest part and filing the ridge or whatever in the middle down? But how do I know how low the lowest pin is if I don't have a key?
Can you share your expertise with on what a very good quality of picks for European locks might be? as i have a few sets but they always seem to be too weak.
I have a high quality tool holder. half my drawers are locked. i dont have the original key but i just orderd a set of 5 bump keys wilk i be able to unlock this without my original key ?
There is a good chance that it won't work if you didnt order the specific key for thay lock. If you can get it to a locksmith they might find a blank you can file down at home. Or see if its worth impressioning
hey i have a shoe repair shop in croatia and we are also making keys. but i have to open my basement door because i lost the keys somewhere, can i make a bumb key without evva key?
Bill, I used to be more into locks before I got late-onset Parkinsons, ( It's a b*tch ) but I just saw this new type of lock made by Anytek that uses finger-prints. I was wondering if you had a chance to play with it yet and what you thought. Thanks. I wanted to teach myself impressioning and copying a key via making a mold. I simply cannot find the aluminum shell that I have seen used on the net. I got a hold of a pair of high school gym locks ( purchased not stolen ) and I wanted to buy some blanks. My local locksmith told me about proprietary blanks. I later found out about some sort of special blank that circumvents this legal restriction. What do I call this type of blank? Thanks again.
"Do whatever you want" does not mean do whatever you want. ABORT ABORT!
Seth, you are the ONLY person to get the joke, and this has been up for a WHILE! 👍😋
I try man. Loving the videos, actually order a couple picks and an ez decoder off your suggestion for a beginner set. Sparrow is awesome.
In order to access your videos or to purchase lock picks and beginner thief kits, there should be a code that a person must enter to show they have a locksmith license. Otherwise, thieves use your knowledge, tools and step-by-step guides as a one-stop breaking and entering site that put vulnerable people like me in harm's way.
@@CherylNewmanNonPCNewsandViews - uh no. That's the same fallacy as saying that we shouldn't test computer security. "Security through obscurity" is a wrong-headed notion, as it handily ensures that *only* bad actors have the knowledge- the people likely to abuse it. Moreover, without knowing what's insecure and why, people can never improve their security, nor is there any incentive for manufacturers to fix their products.
Moreover, thieves tend not to sit around and pick locks. They break windows, break weak doors, cut bike locks. They're opportunists, and value the quickest and most efficent method.
A policy of official ignorance is the enemy of security every single time- in any field. If the information isn't out there, then you can't make good decisions when your threat analysis tells you that you have a security-critical installation. Commercial companies can and will sell you "security theatre" (hi, Masterlock) to make the big dollars, while knowing they're only providing the illusion of security. Sunlight is the best disinfectant, and informed customers/users help make vendors honest.
You don't need to worry about the lock nerds on youtube, anyway. You need to worry about the guy with the housebrick, and your easily-accessible downstairs window. Worried about your bike? It's the passer-by who just happens to be carrying bolt croppers that you need to worry about, not the locksporter who'd need ten minutes to pick their way in.
@@invisibleoc This isn't a computer that has virus and malware protection software and can have code written for new hackers. They also don't sell beginner hacking kits w step-by-step visuals.
Furthermore when you say key manufacturers can use a site like this to improve their products, then they also need ppl like me to comment on such sites that destabilizes my safety. As well, this site isn't teaching smash-and-grab burglary, but detailed ways to break into any lock along w beginner kit sales.
The only ignorance here is comparing apples to oranges.
Bill was the reason I got into lock sport years ago. Enjoy your life and cherish you family. Thank you for everything you taught me. You'll be missed.
These videos are a complete revelation. Before I started watching them I was completely ignorant about locks, and basically I thought one lock was as good as another - boy, have I had my eyes opened! Thanks, Bill. I really appreciate the trouble you go to when you make these vids.
I totally agree
now you know that basically all locks are worthless to someone with enough desire. Locks merely keep the honest honest and locksmiths employed. Burglars usually just kick the door in, no bumping nor picking needed lol
Its insane. They should make this sort of thing mandatory viewing in school. I mean, its not like they're bothering to teach our children how to _spell_ any more, so the least they can do is teach them useful life information like this...
So now you just bar your door with a heavy plank like they did in the olden days.
Never in a millions years could I have answered the question "what do castrated goats & lock picking have to do with each other?" And now I can answer that with 100% confidence if ever asked. Friken sweet!
izraul hidashi you could also answer, "a set of bolt cutters makes the job go faster."
🤣😂😂😂
Its a common quiz question in my part of the planet.
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Oh my goodness, that "spring loading" the bump key is genius. I had to bump a lock I couldn't pick just last night and was even having a little bit of difficulty bumping it. I eventually got it, but it puts a bit of strain on the hands and fingers having to pull out the key every time. Thank you for this video.
BosnianBill, Thank you for producing these great videos! I am disabled and bored out of my freaking mind. My nephew is a locksmith up in Oregon and he got me a set of picks as a joke (he doesnt think I can pick locks I guess) I have pretty much picked every lock I can find around this place (had a problem with a few but after watching your videos I have gottem much better) I have now ordered a set from Sparrow and got a 39 piece bump key set and a set of jigglers.. I still have problems with my hands most days and cant do anything but on those days I fill it with watching your videos..
That's awesome man. My dad's disabled and out of work too and I always tell him he needs a hobby. He's got a bad back so he can't do anything active, which is what he's done his whole life. I don't know what's wrong with you but I think it's really cool that you're nephew even sent you lockpicks as my cousins can't even take care of themselves (they're degenerates.)
Not sure about where You live and how disabled You are but since You can pick locks with a certain ease You could make a living out of it where I live. Great hobby either way.
You should learn to pick with your mouth, then challenge your Nephew to a lock picking dual next time you see him, preferably in front of his girlfriend.
I love your spirit Tim. So many people wally is self pity. They can learn something from you!
I wouldn't personally recommend picking a lock that you're currently using as you might damage it
Dear Sir, I would like to express my deepest gratitude for not only your videos but to you ( you're like a mentor that I've never had the chance to meet ). I studied your videos and downloaded a lot of books about lock picking for having a lot of sudden interests in it. I stick to the 2 "Golden Rules". Once my friend need somebody to open the computer lab coz only one person holding the keys but she wasn't there.I am an ordinary English teacher, sir. He turned to me and I opened the wafer padlock with a paper clip and the grill lock with a fluffy dust brush's round edge ( it's a twisted wire handle type ). But all sudden a lot of people looked up to me, even some worry bout my newly unknown shown potential.Just wanna say that you inspire the whole world. Thank You Very Much :)
Bill, your videos confirm for me what I already knew: locks are only good for keeping honest people honest.
And when you consider just how many dishonest people there are...
I dont lock many of my valuables up, any more. I've adopted a new technique of "keeping it within eyesight" if it really matters to me. 😒
The only lock I've seen pass both this channel and LPLs channel is the Bowley lock with those 2 internal steel cylinders. Resistant to bumping, basically impervious to picking, solid steel construction resists melting, no plastic mechanics... its basically what all locks _would_ be like if people weren't happy with buying crap locks instead.
My friend, YOU, that's right, YOU, make the best instructional videos on all of RUclips. This was excellence from beginning to end. Clear, concise, complete and fun to watch.
Darn, just used up the last of my goat castrasting rings.
meesterp lol
Hate when that happens. I wonder if they are on amazon
+Andrew Sanford www.ebay.com/itm/Castrating-Bands-Elastrator-Rings-100ct-Green-Donuts-Calves-Goats-Sheep-Lamb-/131678240287?hash=item1ea8a27e1f:g:k30AAOSw1S9Wcb4f
spoofer20 uh oh. I saw a bag of those on my wife's desk
meesterp Well then you better hide your keys
Bill, thank you and goodnight!! Just seen on lpls that you are retiring, so very best of luck and thanks for all the laughs and knowledge!!
Thanks for everything Bill. I hope your future is full of health and happiness
One of my first video I watched of yours. Thank you for your time.
I think it is the best way to open any lock. Thank you very very much. I will try to make it at home.
I have a question if you would have get a blankie and take it to Menards or something to make a bump key what would be the cut you ask them for
Wish you all the best in your retirement. Your videos are always informative and educational.
Hello what's up my people I'm disable but that does not make me do bad things in life,what it does is make me & my mine think a little better like how to work on my car which i personally thank the you tube app. For showing me the good ways of working while Beeing disable I've learned a lot threw this you tube app. And i would like to say Thank you (RUclips.com) For helping me learne lots of skills and tecnics. That i never new ...yours truly Mr. E doggie dog .
LOL The bike ad at the end just set me off laughing at work. Everyone came to my office to see what was so funny.
It real funny to me because I'm having the same "discussion" with my wife. ;)
Such a nice looking bike. I'm sure you won't have any issues selling it.
Bosnian Bill, I just wanted to say thank you for all your great content. You will be missed. Good luck for the future. 🍺
Nice demo. I used to be a locksmith 35 years ago. Pre-bump key.
Bump keys have been around for more than 50 years
I haven't tried to bump key anything yet. But now I might.
#lockboss.
Hey, what's the difference (other than tools) between bumping and raking? Seems like they're doing the same thing?
LOL at that ad in the end. That's a shame, it's a beautiful bike.
😭 a tear shed for a wasted machine, I hope the bike finds a great new home
holy crap I just made a bump key. just bumped EVERY lock in my house. guess those are also being replaced. again...damn it bill, costing me money by teaching me yet another skill. thanks.wheres that video, bill. still waiting. snow aint that bad.
I'v tried to follow all the instructions in the video but no luck, could you please tell me how to file a bump key.
Why would you make your hose locks all unpickable. One day you'll curse yourself when you lock your keys inside
Bosnianbill, master of intros.
Ohhh! This is *not* the kind of bump key I was thinking. Amazing video though! I learned something new today
I support this Chanel this Chanel is awesome!
Is it Chanel No.5?
is this the thieves guild? i wanna join
No, this is the Dark Brotherhood. We don't have cookies, we have secrets.
Secret cookies!!!!
I love cookies
I'm a secret cookie monster
thieves don't waste time learning to pick locks. they just break a window or break down the door
There is no need to remove the entire shoulder of the key ...
cutting it back about the thickness of a quarter is sufficient ...
the pins will re-seat and move the key back out to the ready position after striking it .
That's a quality lock.
To Samuel, the lock you are bumping is looking for /or needing the key tip to engage the cam. Next time you bump it open, turn the key and then cut off your rubber washers. press the key in to engage the lock. You did not say what type of lock it is but some profile cylinders use this system. Might be C.E.S. but I'm not sure.
Used Abracadabra A1 Locksmith today the guy could not have been more helpful if he’d tried. Highly recommended now in my address book.
I have a door lock at home that i need to jiggle dramatically as it always sticks. I have a few spare keys. I think I will file off the stop point and add a few sheep tail bands as shown here. It will make it much easier. I won't need to file the rest down to a bump key though. I'll basically just replace the stop point shoulder with the rubber so it springs much easier.
Thanks, Bill. Is It likely they used the same type of spring for all the pins? If they had used springs of varying springiness, would that have made bumping it significantly more difficult? Thx.
No
Tell Viktor that two billy goats sacrified to assist you......great video
Tried making my first bump key and ended up with key stuck inside of lock and couldn't pull it out. I'm guessing that I filed my grooves down too deep. Was wondering if that's what I did wrong?
Either too deep, or the angles too steep.
Thank you! I'm going to play around with this, so I'm thankful for this advice. I won't try my front door until I'm reasonably sure I know what I'm doing. 👍
Pimp ass vid Bill!!!! Good knowledge, shown the correct way!!! I learned this from you about 6 years ago in another video of yours. I really need to send you some 💵..... your knowledge, which has become mine has been more than useful. I’m very grateful brother, ttyl!!
Question: have you tried using a pick made of spring steel?
I feel like a spring steel pick wouldn't break inside that lock
My god I bought a lock like this, i'm in UK. I cannot find a single lock that I am able to pick because of the strong curves. I am so glad it's not just me and that you found problems as well. I want bump keys now.
I LOVE your channel! Probably the best on youtube related to lockpicking and related topics.
salamat sa pag share ng collection mo boss godblees po sa channel mo ❤❤❤❤
Question from a newbie re filing: To me it looks like the file is too big for filing the pin positions that are close together. In the process of filing one grove wouldn't you take out the adjacent pin? TIA and thanks for the interesting vids.
Doesn't matter, since you're filing all of them to the lowest position.
Hi bill, i have a question, where do you get the lockpicks/pickguns?
There is time to change tires on the car before the winter comes and i have a lock on the celler door that i lost my keys for,
Can you recomend a secure site where i can order pickguns or lockpicks? becuase i dont wan to order a ironcutter or motorcutter for 500 dollars., it will be a whole lot of mess and very expensive.
I hope you answer, and im very thankful if youre reading this.
Best regards / Otto
hey bill where do i put the cuts and grooves for a different type like a an atlas or does it work the same?
+bosnianbill how so can you take measurement on a key
ok thnks
+Rum Trap do you know how to get the right measurements?
Does your bump key have to have 5 grooves? Or can I just get a random key Nd shave it down? Nd even when I shave it down does it work on most lockz or only 1???
Any idea if you could cut keys with a milling machine?
Don't have a key cutter, but I do have a 3/4 size Bridgeport (actually a clone of a clausing) in the shop.... Thinking of rotating the head to a 45 degree angle so the corner of an endmill would cut the notch. Either that or get a replacement cutter for a key cutting machine and make an arbor for it....
My thinking is that with setting up a way to hold the key in a repeatable position, I could figure out a chart that translates cut numbers into thousandths that I can dial in on the feed cranks. Have the key vertical, and then just start at the top, set the depth of cut, do the pass. Then raise the knee up to the next position, reset the depth, and make the cut.
If I can figure it out and make it work, I might do a video on code cutting keys on a milling machine...
I have done locks for years and only used my pics. Never tried bump Keys before, but after seeing this video I will start playing with them. A Kwikset lock should be a piece of cake. But you won't be able to do that with a medico. LOL
I love your videos. Lock picking is something I have always wanted to learn, but due to the fact that NC has a law stating only licensed locksmiths can own lockpicks, it's put a damper on my fun
toool.us/laws.html says otherwise.
According to them, you can own all the lockpicks you want - you just can't charge someone else for locksmithing services unless you're a licensed locksmith.
"North Carolina does not criminalize possession, but lockpicking demonstrations in that state should always be free so that they never fall within the definition of "locksmith services." Locksmiths must be licensed, and there is a Locksmith Licensing Board."
Very cool Bill. I don't normally bump or rake. I mostly SPP. However, I have been trying to learn how to bump correctly for emergency situations at work. anyway, great video.
To make a good bump key you need the original one, but what if you've lost the key? Is it still possible to make a bump key from 'nothing'?
Excellent video. I will probably never have to do this myself, but is is exemplary of the 'handmade, tricky, generic-looking tools' this activity requires. I've been known to mill quite a few 'handy little tools' in my bathroom with a dremel, and you can't go wrong with a set of diamond needle files (like sandpaper that never fades), Personally, I think bill would do well to go full-AvE and do a few full-length recordings of him making a custom pick, or grinding out Master 410 cutaway.
Hey Bill, how can you tell which bump keys are for what?
I have a set from Sparrows, but only the ones for weiser yale and schlage are marked. Its the 19 key set just having a hard time figuring out which ones are for which locks
I have a bunch of different locks I got from a jobsite I was on after the demolish, they were being thrown out so just asked if I could have them to see how they are to pick and practice on.
The thing that's throwing me off is 4 different keys fit the same weiser lock I was trying. But can't get it open with the bump. Was going to try your spring or rubber idea.
Ok thanks I'll check it out
Can we lock the door using the bump key, just like it opened on bumping?
Yes.
Bosnianbill you mean counter twist is it?
You can bump the lock in either direction, clockwise OR counter-clockwise. The lock doesn't care. The bump key doesn't either.
Bosnianbill thanks mate, was really helpful!!
Sir, it ain't working on a Kara Dorset half cylinder
Are those hand key cutters good for house door keys (euro cylinder. .).
I heard certain bump keys will break the lock making it unusable after by the regular key. Is there something different about this lock and or bump key? Or was I misinformed and bump keys do not break the lock?
+Drew M some locks also have a small ballbearing in a pin chamber ,and along the side of the barrell there will be holes in line with them.this allows a builders key to operate then the home owners key when turned will drop this ball into a hole .this will block the builders key out.called construction keying.picking and bumping can drop the ball out.one of a few possibilities
I know how to make a lock no one will steal from you with. Get a lock like this, then get a master lock case. When they fail to pick it, they don't want to be around for anyone to see they tried.
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@@lucd9080 Masterlocks are horribly easy to pick even for novices.
@@hunt7129 Masterlocks are something a thief hopes to see because they are basically useless locks.
@@CyberianFaux ok ty
about the bump key... I got the idea of the depth of the grooves but you had the original key so you knew you needed 5 grooves. If you did not have it, how would you make one?
I am not challenging you anyway it's a matter of understanding.
I help people that need to open lock due to lost keys and just to give you my background; my first padlock was opened by accident. I was bored and I found a padlock. I also had a paper clip and just playing with I started understanding the mechanism of it by feel.
Most combination locks I use the feel of the pins. 😇
+Gilvam Carvalho the length of the key can reach the 6 pin .if you look at the edge that hits the pin to bump it the tip will be 6.on some locks anyway, all brands are spaced different so make one of each .
+Gilvam Carvalho you can use a usable key from a different lock (but same type) that fits into the lock you want to bump.
Would this possibly work on a ignition switch? I have a old blazer, lost keys, I need to replace the switch, and do not want to drill, it's a 95 Chevy blazer, of can a key be cut by vin# ? Thanks,
Question I live in Ireland and most locks are Yale if I make a bump key for a Yale lock will it work for every standard Yale lock and how do I find out where to put the grooves in the bump key
Good job. But how would u make that bump key if you didn't have the original to copy?
im going to try this on a bike lock that i have lost the keys to that has been wrapped around my frame for the last couple of years.
bolt cutters lol
Will a pick gun do the same thing as a bump key electric pick gun
A very nice example of using the rubbers, very nice video buddy!
do you think those bump key sets are worth it ?
Bill, I just about died laughing when I read your ad with the bike, lol !! ;)
Great vid. LOL at the bike ad! Is that and the castration ring connected?? hehe
Would a spring and washer be good for bump keys?
so you need a key designed for a particular lock model?
+Gabriele Ciciriello of course you do
dligac thanks
I am trying to make a bump key, but don't have a square file. Would a rectangular file work as well?
hi this might be a stupid question but how do you know which bump key to use is there different sets for different makes of locks
does it work of the last pin is a bit bigger i ordered one got it like that
Now if that Evva lock had magnetic anti bump key protection, what would you do then?
Heat the lock first to destroy the magnets?
I have a few of old Yale super pin padlocks that I haven't been able to bump or neither pick! There driving me crazy! I've tried to machine gun the bump key but I only get a false set! I got the padlocks with out keys( I collect Yale locks) I want to make keys for them, I've tried to inpresionate a key but I've messed up about a dozen key blanks are you interested in trying to pick them Bill?
Does the bike come with keys? (You might not need a stinkin key but I sure do!)
I left the shoulders on my keys but instead of trying to rap it in and turn it with perfect timing,I slipped an elastic hair tie thru the key "eye"put my fingers thru the 2 loops protruding on eitherside, stretched the elastic over the knob or lock ,put a 90 degree twist in my hand position and put the key into the lock, Now to open it you justpull the key and let it go -like a pinball machine and the lock will be opened in 1 or2 shots because you don't have to time the twisting action, it's done for you. the hair tie is cloth covered and 2" in diameter. I can open my two deadbolt front door locks faster and more quietly than with the house keys.
Ok Bos, when you get to the part where you remove the stop at the back of the key, maybe leave a small portion of it so the rubber washer stack can be smaller? It just seems icky to remove the whole thing...
icky?? what the hell do you mean by icky? what about a tool exactly is icky? makes absolutely no sense
At some point toool.nl had a list of bump proof locks for home front doors, but now it is gone. Which locks can you recommend? I live den Denmark, but will to buy from wherever =)
bosnianbill What about disc tumbler locks? Especially ones made by Abloy. Can't find any videos of even the 100 year old ones picked. Nothing at all for the new locks. All I can find is people drilling them.
bosnianbill Thanks a lot! Is ASSA 1200 and Ruko 1200 the same lock? I have a Zeiss Ikon lock, but how do I know if it is a good one?
bosnianbill Why do people still buy these locks? Most of them fail so easily. It's not like the abloy ones are expensive. Should small amount matter when selecting lock to guard your house? Maybe people don't just care. Robbers usually use brute force anyway.
That was fast. According to Evva that lock is 100% bump proof and extremely pick resitant. That just shows locks are only to help keep people honest. A $280 lock should be a bit harder. nice explination.
If you do not have the oiriginal key, how do you determine the spacing?
@Bosnianbill if i presume well most likely you understand ''nasi'' :D ..svaka ccast na odlicnom videu,i objasnjenju bump key-a..
nego, jesi li prod'o motor :D :D :D.. motor je STRAVAAA dobar!
Pozdrav i LP. good luck in your future videos :D
zdravvoooo
Again a great video Bill!
I think I'm gonna make some Bump keys my selve, now I know how to do it RIGHT.
Thank you for your great videos, man!!
awesome very easy to bump, i am learning a lot things watching thees videos, thank you.
Is there such thing as a truly universal bump key that will work in most any brand of lock? What about bump keys for cars, is that possible?
No. You need to have key blanks that fits the keyway correctly.
Great video! Thank you! Do you have a video on how to prevent a bump-key, if that's possible at all?
LOL! That ad at the end is absolutely hilarious. Nice bike.
Nice bump demonstration. Also gorgeous bike. I've a ZX-6R myself, probably a little late but for anyone else looking for advice giving your girlfriend occasional rides on the back might help. Start it slow and without filtering too much but that should save your bikes. That said I bought mine with 100 miles so maybe I shouldn't be helping too much.
wont this work on the majority of normal cilinder/pin locks?
If the bump key fits in the lock and there are enough spaces in the key to accommodate the pins it should work no problem
What if the lock has to be turned twice to open the door, do we have to do the same for the second turn of the key
So it doesn't matter what the key you are using as a bump is. The important part is filing equal to the lowest part and filing the ridge or whatever in the middle down? But how do I know how low the lowest pin is if I don't have a key?
Can you share your expertise with on what a very good quality of picks for European locks might be? as i have a few sets but they always seem to be too weak.
So my lock has the tumblers at the bottom of the lock. What to do in that case? Like an upside down lock. Need help please.
how hard would it be to get a blank key of the right shape to go into that key way if he hand't given you one?
Is there a store where I can buy these bump keys?
+Skittlesrocks07 try the third booth in the black market
sarcasm2k thanks
can I do that with a lock that have the pins upside down?
I have a high quality tool holder. half my drawers are locked. i dont have the original key but i just orderd a set of 5 bump keys wilk i be able to unlock this without my original key ?
There is a good chance that it won't work if you didnt order the specific key for thay lock. If you can get it to a locksmith they might find a blank you can file down at home. Or see if its worth impressioning
+Jp Gomez its a kennedy tool box maybe 15 20 years old
+UMAD BRO best bet is a locksmith or pick it open yourself
hey i have a shoe repair shop in croatia and we are also making keys. but i have to open my basement door because i lost the keys somewhere, can i make a bumb key without evva key?
Lmao at the Ad at the end of the video
Great job Bill, do you find that these better tolerance, more precise locks are easier to machine gun bump?
Bill, I used to be more into locks before I got late-onset Parkinsons, ( It's a b*tch ) but I just saw this new type of lock made by Anytek that uses finger-prints. I was wondering if you had a chance to play with it yet and what you thought. Thanks.
I wanted to teach myself impressioning and copying a key via making a mold. I simply cannot find the aluminum shell that I have seen used on the net. I got a hold of a pair of high school gym locks ( purchased not stolen ) and I wanted to buy some blanks. My local locksmith told me about proprietary blanks. I later found out about some sort of special blank that circumvents this legal restriction. What do I call this type of blank? Thanks again.
Thomas, I'm not sure what that "special blank" refers to. Maybe it is some other blank that just happens to fit into your keyway? No idea, sorry.