@@pwimetime6687 no they can't without storm...you know how many protoss players I destroyed with time to make all those hydras? Protoss NEVER beats that many hydralisks without a balanced attack...Z's, dragoons, templars...need a few arbiters with stasis to force them in a chokepoint...and you know what? On super money maps like that that STILL might not be enough
Green player had 4 times the resources and he could build units and cannons, instead seemed to just sit around as Hydras ruined him. He could have even taken his fleet away and sat rest of match with Carriers producing interceptors, but instead runs into hydras and loses everything. Guy had the match and seemed to just give up.
Thanks for casting the video, Falcon! Sorry for some of the lulls here and there.. Generally, what I found interesting mostly was that og was able to hold every carrier attack and win a 2v1. This is a case when fastest maps can drag on when economy is irrelevant in the game.. Anyway, as a fan, id like to give some context and backstory around this match, and wonder if other viewers relate: I started playing (like many) back in high school over 10 years ago. I was part of the subgenre of players who found fun playing with friends on fastest maps, nr20, and just macro up - i never actually played 1v1's and was always just for dumb recreation. Since watching your casts (and Day9's Let's Play StarCraft), I've been trying (unsuccessfully) to learn how to play "correctly" (and switched from toss to terran). I am terrible still lol but still practicing. I haven't been able to play team matches without literally being the first guy to get rushed by 2 or more players - in this game i actually felt like id have 8 minutes to get my factories up but, no, otherwise wouldn't have went 2 fact opening. Ha i also gave up on the vulture micro because without mines, it would've still ended up 1 or 2 viltures vs 10 zealots Curious to know if other viewers started out like i did, and is also in a weird limbo place where they're practicing too, but keep getting dominated on b.net lol Fastest maps could be fun to cast but i haven't seen matches with balanced apms yet. Even the last one I played, 2 players had like 400apm and others like ~100, so balanced fastest maps might be tough to come by. Thanks again, and sorry for folks expecting a pro level match - just thought there were some interesting elements. There was also a 10 minute stretch in this game where i left for a meeting lol -TheBurninator
A couple things: as Terran you have to be aggressive. Like what red did, instead of sitting and turtling he made marines & medics and attacked. Most of the time when Terran walls off and plays defense they lose because 3 on other team rush one guy and terran can't help and its 2v3. In terms of fast vulture its better if you can pull it off, but I rarely see anyone less than 250apm pull it off. Its very hard and with 50apm no way. You're better off building 3-4 rax, getting marines and attacking.
@@gregk5917 thanks to ASL and falcon, I've found it to be more fun these days to watch than play.. When we were kids, we would agree to fastest maps nr15 and just turtle and have fun with giant armies, but trying recently to get even over 100apm goes from being a casual game, to a legit pastime like practicing guitar etc.. I realize without commitment, the game is hard to enjoy until you can get over 100apm
first real thought in the video: awww, no terrain/zerg combo. medics are already awesome enough when all they are healing is marines. oddly enough I'm most impressed with burninator just because they never stopped trying to be useful. ps: if it still exists the map "Fastest Map" produces some crazy games.
I respect orange a lot because he was far more tenacious than his opponents and outlasted a 3v1. 4 full carrier waves on his main and army repelled, all while working constantly on attacking 2 players, AND winning. Tenacity wins the day!
laughing so hard I was crying at 39:33 "this game is dumb", almost never hear you say anything negative but this was called for, I mean these guys really suck hahahahahahahahahahahaahahhaha
@@FalconPaladin it was funny for the initial clashes, but the repeated blunt-force suicide attacks of hydralisks became tedious to watch. It's like after a certain point, the zerg player just quit using any form of strategy except that of the Soviet Union's in WW2... the tried and tested "outproduce the enemy with cheap units and wear down with attrition"...
hey falcon, thx for the cast, more fastest games would be great for your channel. but if the players would be a little more advanced, that be even more awesome 8-)
Several squads of cloaked wraiths were always my answer to carrier spam. Comsat behind them to kill the observers first and then whipe them out. Worked most of the time
TheBurnnator is noob... But AmericanEasy is a crying coward, which is WORSE... Despite the general low level of skills, Kudos to Era-Pantro. He's the berserker.
Mizael Oliveira i mean theres noob and then theres just not super skilled. Ive played sc for years and these guys would steamroll me. But im no noob either.
The map Big Game Hunters (made by Blizzard) is also ridiculous. It's a normal map except the mineral patches are 50,000 resources IIRC. My friend was playing a 3v3, and it turned into a 3v1. He ran to me asked for help and I took over and destroyed the 3 with Carriers, Arbiters and scouts (as anti-air) cause they had carriers too. Edit: Clarity
era pantro: kolay bir şekilde birinci olacağım şef. > to eng: i will easily very easilyyy be the first. nomousing: hıshıhsısı D: :D kill99: yoğaa daha neler flamero: yavaş kayarsın ..... .... fifty minutes later.. .. .... era pantro: kolay bir şekilde birinci oldum şef. > to eng: what did i say.
Year-old video sure but I just thought of something hilarious and silly that you should do for April Fool's next year: Get a gameplay vid of some completely different game. Maybe even a different genre like an FPS. But don't shoutcast it like you know what game it is. Try to shoutcast the entire game with nothing but very confused and strained analogies to StarCraft units. Like, if there happens to be human soldiers in the game then keep calling them Terran Marines and such, and judge the mission objective structure as though it was a strategy actively being done by a StarCraft player. This comment is probably dumb and I'm very sick today and April Fool's is a long ways away but this would be absolutely hilarious and I think you could do it perfectly if you really commit. Hope you're having a great one!
That zerg needs lessons, I liked the early drop on white and red but his late game was absolute garbage. No rallies set for hatcheries and no use of defilers. I mean correctly used, you always want 1 defiler per group. Aka 11 units 1 defiler. Also hot keying defilers makes it easier. Also did anyone notice hydra legs were never upgraded? As a zerg you cant lose your main unless it was rushed by mutas, scouts, wraiths, and drops. But to actually let carriers go in and slowly decide to attack his main while in his base for 3 minutes before it is targeted. How did this happen? Holy crap lol, just 2 plagues a dark swarm for hydras and a dark swarm on your main. Doing this causes carriers to run away or in his situation destroy them before ever losing main. I hate how his sunken line and spore defense was non existent. If he had around 15-20 spores around main, 2x plague on all carriers would of been enough to wipe them out even if you didnt target attack hydras. This was painful, I think purple would beat the zerg player 1v1. I am not even kidding, at least he had talk and strategy skills. I mean if you are going to mass hydras at least rally point and have at least 25-35 hatcheries for optimal macro. His apm was laughable, I can play at 70 apm and still be more aggressive on unit macro. If you are going to send and use a command. Then do this really build by either clicking each hatchery s then h on each or drag and click h on larva. With it being rallied they will always move out the way. You can repeat this step when you get more larva. Also shift f3 the spot you rallied and f2 for hatcheries. This will kinda capture a shot that when u press f2-f4 it goes back to saved screen image. Try to get as much hatcheries in the shot as you can. That way when you attack with a command and use your defilers for dark swarm. You can hit f2 build more hydras, go back to units attack to check on your attack. Move hydras and such and use more dark swarms. Then hit f2 when you need more units. Ri se repeat. Infact just use f2 f2 mass lings hydras a d send them by out marching your opponent. -_____- Girl I dated played starcraft and could go 10-0 on all of them 1v1 and I could beat her by scv rushing. Gg good commentary
Yeah this is disappointing. I like high level play with proper analysis. And like I said, some rush games would be interesting, a series of quick games with analysis of offense and defense strategies for both players, potential build orders etc. Anyway, thank you for the good work Falcon. Love the BW remastered commentated content, it's pretty rare nowadays.
Love this kinds of game unpredictable. commonly Tos go for Reavers and Templars if they coordinated like 1 go for carrier and other go for reaver arbiter and some archons Zerg surely is in trouble some of the advantage of Zerg is that they reproduce faster then other races
@@FalconPaladin I'm going to look for the "Fastest Pro's Tournament" replays I recommended a while back. In the mean while I sent you replay @gmail. Thanks again & off to bed.
I gotta call you out... You even said 2nd gateway but the you said build probes. I was kinda confused then just realized youre a crazy person and all was well. ;)
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So that was the swarm's strategy to invade Aiur basically
lol i had never seen it that way
There just want to playing tumbles around lol. Protoss Carrier already won if he want.
piles and piles and piles of hydras against everything
@@yelin8086 And Protoss piles more Dragoons!! Zealots Dragoon combo can kill Hydra easy.
@@pwimetime6687 no they can't without storm...you know how many protoss players I destroyed with time to make all those hydras? Protoss NEVER beats that many hydralisks without a balanced attack...Z's, dragoons, templars...need a few arbiters with stasis to force them in a chokepoint...and you know what? On super money maps like that that STILL might not be enough
I like these lower level games, more unpredictable, more fun, you see scouts and devoures getting built :D
nope ! Noob games are so annoying to watch just because that games are so predictable and boring. Only mass one type of unit.
Then u shouldnt of clicked this video dumbass
People giving the orange player **** and I'm over here just flabbergasted that he single handedly beat 3 opponents allied against him. o_0
Spoilers?
@@LipSinkPro My apologies. But I feel if you're looking at comments before you've finished the video I feel like you're kind of doing something wrong.
@@LipSinkPro who reads comments before watching?
Will Stewart judging by the length of the video, not a chance.
Green player had 4 times the resources and he could build units and cannons, instead seemed to just sit around as Hydras ruined him. He could have even taken his fleet away and sat rest of match with Carriers producing interceptors, but instead runs into hydras and loses everything.
Guy had the match and seemed to just give up.
Very entertaining! Just discovered your channel few days ago and I love your broadcasts! Cheers Falcon!
"Is he gonna have enough lurker to deal with carriers?"
...pretty sure he ain't, FP.
:D :D :D Good call!
Maybe if they are dropped literally on top of the Carriers :P
It's just painful to see Pantro waste all his opportunities to end everything quickly... anyway, kudos to him for holding off 2 protoss armies
Hilarious- takes me back when I played so many games like this. After watching pros recently it’s a reminder of how bad I/we were!
Lol im with u. Same here
For sure!! Wasted time to built so many hatcheries and stuff😂😂
Thanks for casting the video, Falcon!
Sorry for some of the lulls here and there.. Generally, what I found interesting mostly was that og was able to hold every carrier attack and win a 2v1.
This is a case when fastest maps can drag on when economy is irrelevant in the game..
Anyway, as a fan, id like to give some context and backstory around this match, and wonder if other viewers relate:
I started playing (like many) back in high school over 10 years ago. I was part of the subgenre of players who found fun playing with friends on fastest maps, nr20, and just macro up - i never actually played 1v1's and was always just for dumb recreation.
Since watching your casts (and Day9's Let's Play StarCraft), I've been trying (unsuccessfully) to learn how to play "correctly" (and switched from toss to terran).
I am terrible still lol but still practicing.
I haven't been able to play team matches without literally being the first guy to get rushed by 2 or more players - in this game i actually felt like id have 8 minutes to get my factories up but, no, otherwise wouldn't have went 2 fact opening. Ha i also gave up on the vulture micro because without mines, it would've still ended up 1 or 2 viltures vs 10 zealots
Curious to know if other viewers started out like i did, and is also in a weird limbo place where they're practicing too, but keep getting dominated on b.net lol
Fastest maps could be fun to cast but i haven't seen matches with balanced apms yet. Even the last one I played, 2 players had like 400apm and others like ~100, so balanced fastest maps might be tough to come by.
Thanks again, and sorry for folks expecting a pro level match - just thought there were some interesting elements.
There was also a 10 minute stretch in this game where i left for a meeting lol
-TheBurninator
Thanks, Trogdor. :)
lol its the burninator!! way to pull off the win man!!!
majermike Thanks dude lol ive pivoted to unreal tournament 2k4 until I'm ready to get back into sc again haha
A couple things: as Terran you have to be aggressive. Like what red did, instead of sitting and turtling he made marines & medics and attacked. Most of the time when Terran walls off and plays defense they lose because 3 on other team rush one guy and terran can't help and its 2v3. In terms of fast vulture its better if you can pull it off, but I rarely see anyone less than 250apm pull it off. Its very hard and with 50apm no way. You're better off building 3-4 rax, getting marines and attacking.
@@gregk5917 thanks to ASL and falcon, I've found it to be more fun these days to watch than play.. When we were kids, we would agree to fastest maps nr15 and just turtle and have fun with giant armies, but trying recently to get even over 100apm goes from being a casual game, to a legit pastime like practicing guitar etc.. I realize without commitment, the game is hard to enjoy until you can get over 100apm
omgawd...i laughed so much. thanks, FP! it was often ridiculous, but was still entertaining
What a comeback, I couldn’t help but root for the underdog!!! Thanks for all the streams Falcon!!
Any time!
"How's he getting income?"
He's mostly not, but it turns out 40000 minerals goes a long way.
Reminds me Husky's Bronze league heroes series, game is a bit too long but still hilarious
first real thought in the video: awww, no terrain/zerg combo.
medics are already awesome enough when all they are healing is marines.
oddly enough I'm most impressed with burninator just because they never stopped trying to be useful.
ps: if it still exists the map "Fastest Map" produces some crazy games.
There was a very brief moment where red’s medics were healing zealots just before yellow left.
Man I watched this holding my breath :) awesome game, great casting, well done Pantro!
"And here's some more Zealot-on-Zealot action". -Falcon Paladin, 2018.
Man, screw girls-on-girls, hot Protoss is where it's at!
Legs for days
Where do you think the quote "My Wife for Hire" comes from?
That's Zerg never give up! Cast more game like this is so really cool!
34:20 you are making me feel something for these hydras... i dont want them to die, i want to protect their smiles now >:C
Hahaha my evil plan has worked!!!
I respect orange a lot because he was far more tenacious than his opponents and outlasted a 3v1. 4 full carrier waves on his main and army repelled, all while working constantly on attacking 2 players, AND winning. Tenacity wins the day!
Love your casts! I'm actually writing from Bolivia, I really do enjoy Remastered casts! Keep it up!
That was so awesome, I would love a movie based on this match. It could be about the invasion of Aiur
Oh man. This video is two years old, which is notable. Your casting improved massively.
Thanks! :)
I added this to my watch later playlist years ago and it finally popped up on my page again. Let's see!
WOW!!!!! That deserved an epic tag for sure! What a great match! Burninator cracks me up! That would be me for sure! Thanks for sharing this.
Absolutely amazing play by orange best 1v3 ever lol great job pantro
I like how purple telling someone what to do when he was first to die
honestly the best part of this was hearing falcon slowly lose his shit as the match progressed
3v3!!! Thank you! It's madness and so much fun from my playing days....3v1 rush!!! 😝
hey protip for you....to find out the teams, only select vision on 1 player, at is will show whos hes allied to.
please upvote this so he can see it
Okay, upvoted!
Dude i enjoy so much your castings. So funny
Thank you! :)
@@FalconPaladin you are so gonna make me buy remastered. Haha does people still play brood war?
@@draxxxxx Yes! US West server and Korea server. :)
Me: "What is late game protoss like?"
nomousingaround: "Cover the entire map with photon cannons."
Extremely good at evading defeat tho. :)
Once I had a long FME battle and one player who decided not to interfere in fight, he wrote phrases all over the map with cannons :))
Burninator should have said at the end: "thanks to my coaching and advice we won"
As an old SC player, we had the saying that Scouts are nothing but a mineral hack.
laughing so hard I was crying at 39:33 "this game is dumb", almost never hear you say anything negative but this was called for, I mean these guys really suck hahahahahahahahahahahaahahhaha
I went to Netflix, browsed around, decided to watch this instead. Thanks!
I'm with you on the crazy use of "A move" but I do think he did well keeping the pressure on 2 protoss players
this brings back memores
Thank you for accepting my suggestion of SC FASTEST MAPS. Best replays come from the SCW website, either way thanks for the shift.
can you consume.... a High Templar created hallucinogen?
That was amazing. Orange blew my mind
Thank you gor enduring this pain to provide us entertainment Falcon Paladin 😛
Haha pain? :D
@@FalconPaladin it was funny for the initial clashes, but the repeated blunt-force suicide attacks of hydralisks became tedious to watch. It's like after a certain point, the zerg player just quit using any form of strategy except that of the Soviet Union's in WW2... the tried and tested "outproduce the enemy with cheap units and wear down with attrition"...
@@miniaturesandstuff5209 Haha good analysis :)
hey falcon, thx for the cast, more fastest games would be great for your channel. but if the players would be a little more advanced, that be even more awesome 8-)
Fastest map, mass carriers in thumbnail, this is fun for sure
love this old videos
mass hydras and a-move, that's old school, oh the memories
Several squads of cloaked wraiths were always my answer to carrier spam. Comsat behind them to kill the observers first and then whipe them out. Worked most of the time
not really ... 5 or 6 obs are made next to carriers .. only AI plays with only 1 on a carrier attack
Teal and white had it.... although Orange did AMAZING, one of the best replays Ive seen, RED leaving really offset the balance.... GG Thanks Falcon P,
No lurkers under swarm, no targeting carriers, no reavers. Fun blast from the past, but the skill level is frustratingly low
That was awesome!
TheBurnnator is noob... But AmericanEasy is a crying coward, which is WORSE...
Despite the general low level of skills, Kudos to Era-Pantro. He's the berserker.
Mizael Oliveira i mean theres noob and then theres just not super skilled. Ive played sc for years and these guys would steamroll me. But im no noob either.
helal lan sana pantro yürü be adamsın
What a comeback!!!!!!
The map Big Game Hunters (made by Blizzard) is also ridiculous. It's a normal map except the mineral patches are 50,000 resources IIRC.
My friend was playing a 3v3, and it turned into a 3v1. He ran to me asked for help and I took over and destroyed the 3 with Carriers, Arbiters and scouts (as anti-air) cause they had carriers too.
Edit: Clarity
Yeo, I'm very familiar with BGH. :)
Hey Falcon! Just watching some old casts looking for the beardless one🤣🤣 wow so old you didn’t know about RvB😱
Yup! Still learning, too. :D
Falcon Paladin, I still want to know what a brood lord is, as I never got into SC2.
Dope bro, tyvm
np bro
Final Zerg player who ever he really is was total BOSS
The lack of storm against Zerg is so depressing!!
where do you get the replays?? i want the replays for more see more details
I love these types of games even though the endings are dry.
COOOLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18:56 WEHRE DID HUS ARMYYY GOOO HURR DURRRR
this match is crazy!
37:43 kill99 just upgraded Corsair energy. LOL
Heck yeah man! FMP is my favorite
amazing game to handle alone against three 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
era pantro: kolay bir şekilde birinci olacağım şef. > to eng: i will easily very easilyyy be the first.
nomousing: hıshıhsısı D: :D
kill99: yoğaa daha neler
flamero: yavaş kayarsın
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fifty minutes later..
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era pantro: kolay bir şekilde birinci oldum şef. > to eng: what did i say.
Year-old video sure but I just thought of something hilarious and silly that you should do for April Fool's next year: Get a gameplay vid of some completely different game. Maybe even a different genre like an FPS. But don't shoutcast it like you know what game it is. Try to shoutcast the entire game with nothing but very confused and strained analogies to StarCraft units. Like, if there happens to be human soldiers in the game then keep calling them Terran Marines and such, and judge the mission objective structure as though it was a strategy actively being done by a StarCraft player.
This comment is probably dumb and I'm very sick today and April Fool's is a long ways away but this would be absolutely hilarious and I think you could do it perfectly if you really commit. Hope you're having a great one!
the backseat gaming :D
by the end of this 'WHO WANTS HYDRALISK HAMBURGER!'
and jaedong was watching this whhile laughing with the new korean chili cheese popcorn
This das the most insane Fastest Map Ever 3v3 i have ever seen.
Id like to see a 3v3 where one team is consisted of Flash Bisu and Jaedong
Зерг лютый! Идеальная страта - масс гидра с сотни хат на максимальных грейдах...
Pantro such a chad for 1 vs 3
Theburninator was the man!
Can't breath. Cool
THE SWARM IS HERE
35:00 he send the devaour to die is because he reach limit,and he wan reproduce hydra,helloooo Falcon?common sense
Do you know where the map can be downloaded from?
21:16 did a carrier get plagued or smth?
45:58
Brood Lords? What's that? :D
The SC2 version of the Guardian. Basically the same unit. :D
@@FalconPaladin I know, I play SC II much more than sc1, was just teasing ^^.
This was painful to watch but super funny at the same time. I'd love to see more 3v3 but hopefully, somebody can find more advanced players.
Amazing
That zerg needs lessons, I liked the early drop on white and red but his late game was absolute garbage. No rallies set for hatcheries and no use of defilers. I mean correctly used, you always want 1 defiler per group. Aka 11 units 1 defiler. Also hot keying defilers makes it easier. Also did anyone notice hydra legs were never upgraded? As a zerg you cant lose your main unless it was rushed by mutas, scouts, wraiths, and drops. But to actually let carriers go in and slowly decide to attack his main while in his base for 3 minutes before it is targeted. How did this happen? Holy crap lol, just 2 plagues a dark swarm for hydras and a dark swarm on your main. Doing this causes carriers to run away or in his situation destroy them before ever losing main.
I hate how his sunken line and spore defense was non existent. If he had around 15-20 spores around main, 2x plague on all carriers would of been enough to wipe them out even if you didnt target attack hydras.
This was painful, I think purple would beat the zerg player 1v1. I am not even kidding, at least he had talk and strategy skills. I mean if you are going to mass hydras at least rally point and have at least 25-35 hatcheries for optimal macro. His apm was laughable, I can play at 70 apm and still be more aggressive on unit macro. If you are going to send and use a command. Then do this really build by either clicking each hatchery s then h on each or drag and click h on larva. With it being rallied they will always move out the way. You can repeat this step when you get more larva. Also shift f3 the spot you rallied and f2 for hatcheries. This will kinda capture a shot that when u press f2-f4 it goes back to saved screen image. Try to get as much hatcheries in the shot as you can. That way when you attack with a command and use your defilers for dark swarm. You can hit f2 build more hydras, go back to units attack to check on your attack. Move hydras and such and use more dark swarms. Then hit f2 when you need more units. Ri se repeat. Infact just use f2 f2 mass lings hydras a d send them by out marching your opponent.
-_____-
Girl I dated played starcraft and could go 10-0 on all of them 1v1 and I could beat her by scv rushing. Gg good commentary
Your name is what they needed to do. A reaver drop would have ended the game so easy
Lmfao he is in the middle of a attack and his hydras are just sitting in the base not doing anything. I find this gameplay hilarious
dude, that minimap
Wow the memories...
Please more of Fastest maps but better players :D
Yeah this is disappointing. I like high level play with proper analysis. And like I said, some rush games would be interesting, a series of quick games with analysis of offense and defense strategies for both players, potential build orders etc. Anyway, thank you for the good work Falcon. Love the BW remastered commentated content, it's pretty rare nowadays.
As always, the zerg has to carry the dead weight on his team.
Man the burninator talks a lot for someone with a lower apm than me
Sucks for yellow dipping out well before he was actually dead
yeah the least he could've done is buy a few more time delaying the enemy teams from attacking his allies.
Man this was a frustrating game to watch lol
Love this kinds of game unpredictable. commonly Tos go for Reavers and Templars if they coordinated like 1 go for carrier and other go for reaver arbiter and some archons Zerg surely is in trouble some of the advantage of Zerg is that they reproduce faster then other races
Pantro is really cool
Hi Falcon, I found a very entertaining SC Fastest Replay - where can I send it?
falconpaladin at gmail.com
@@FalconPaladin I'm going to look for the "Fastest Pro's Tournament" replays I recommended a while back. In the mean while I sent you replay @gmail. Thanks again & off to bed.
I gotta call you out... You even said 2nd gateway but the you said build probes. I was kinda confused then just realized youre a crazy person and all was well. ;)
I am, in fact a crazy person, yes. :)
purple was grand help XD
more of fastest possible maps please
I have some replays along these lines, if you're interested, where do I send them to?
falconpaladin at gmail dot com
If that orange Zerg user learns how to use spells and how to make use of idling units.. he will enter the throne of the greatest Zerg players