@@Grimpmann The vast majority of Hilton Head is gated high end development. The cheapest lot I can find for sale on the island greater than 1 acre is smaller than hers and listed for $229k
A friend's grandmother owned the last large tract of land that wasn't a working farm in the township we lived in. She was harassed mercilessly to sell. She changed her number, they got it and kept calling. They dumped illegally on the property, then reported the dumping. When she got fed up, she deeded the property to the Nature Conservancy, so it can't be developed.
Offering $39,000 for property that would easily fetch $750,000- $1,000,000 tells you all you need to know. Fight on lady! And due to her age, if the unthinkable happens, I hope her family continues the fight to keep their property.
As someone who had a property stolen from me by fraud...there is a special place in hell for people that steal someones property. Now we need to ensure that we make their time on earth just as hellish.
Unless and until _every_ American stands in their front doorway, _locked and loaded,_ and emphatically says _"Hell no!"_ We will continue to be oppressed and bullied by the system for the benefit of the 1%. We must unite and stand together as one people in order to defeat Big Brother.
@@pvtbuddie and the magistrate denies your suit and awards you the "value" of the land as assessed, which isn't enough to fix the problem, then his daughter coincidentally gets a job with another firm owned by the same developer. You are correct, of course. I'm just a cynic. But property developers have been getting away with this kind of thing since property has been developed. In the olden days they'd just send people to rough you up repeatedly, smash everything, threaten your family etc.
I had a developer inquire into my property. When I declined he said with a smirk, "We'll see about that." I let him get pretty far into it before I informed his people that there are 3 protected and at least 1 endangered species on my property. His smirk went away.
I always thought that if someone tried to force me to sell I’d fill the home with hazmat in barrels. Truckers would love to drop it off and I won’t let the buyers into the house until they gave me the money. The they would get stuck with the hazmat.
I recently had a utility try to widen the easement onto my property. I put 1” rebars in the ground on my property and you should have heard the noise when it went through their brush hog. They ended with damage to a tire and their brush hog. They were swearing at me and I told them they went out of the easement and it’s not my problem.
i did something similar, except i "accidentally" started a protected species act investigation on the developers land, preventing them from building for over 6 years. oops
Developers should never be allowed to do these things. If someone doesn't want to sell their property and home. Then that should be the end of it. If her shed and satellite dish were truly on the Developers land I can understand that, but they shouldn't have had to file a lawsuit to remove them. This is clearly intimidation and trying to force her to sell because of legal fees she will incur.
First thing I would hope the judge would ask is “did you address this with the homeowner before coming here?” And I would want to see proof that they did. If not, throw that garbage lawsuit out. You have to at least make some attempt to remedy the situation before going to court. Somehow I doubt they ever did and just blindsided her with all and any minor code violations they could find and a few they just made up apparently.
If said shed and dish were on their land by a small amount and preexisted their purchase of the land, the *proper* thing would be to just grant her a small easement for a few $ like a decent person, rather than be a parasitic leech and sue.
I feel for her, I have been harassed about selling my property as well, I finally gave them a price of $1,000,000. They said it's not worth a million, I said that's my price, take it or walk away and don't come back without a million dollars. They haven't been back. Funny stuff man!
That's exactly what I have done with our corner block suburban house. I told the agent "Yes, I'll sell it right now for our price which is $5 million". (5 times the going rate here) "Pay that and we'll move out tomorrow". They don't come back.
I get regular calls about my house When I decide to waste my time to answer the call I tell them 4.5 million in cash In nonsequantial bills None of the bills are to be larger than a fifty If that is not doable then lose my fucking number
I am glad that is maybe a trend. The area around my hovel is being developed, and I have been getting weekly calls asking if I want to sell "any of my properties". No wasn't working, so I worked up a figure to buy, relocate, and improve on a new property and doubled it [taxes, etc]. Generally the caller hangs up, but one insisted on knowing why the price was so high. I explained it really wasn't any of his business, but here is the breakdown ... then they hung up ;-)
That seems like the funnest response too. Like ask for at least three times the amount that'd actually make you go "hm, maybe I'd sell for this much." If they don't accept that offer then you can just go "well, I guess you don't really want it then, you know what you have to pay if you want to keep talking to me."
Once the future of the beloved grandchildren are in the spotlight and under a microscope of these tossers; maybe grandma will remember some deed stuff.
That's the goal. Make zoning ridiculous, make it extremely expensive and difficult to build a house, get a big check from local big wig, let them slap down some overpriced apartments to charge abhorrent rent, boom profit! Governments no longer work for the people, they serve as an in-between to rob and pillage the citizens of the country.
When I hear about these things I always want to reach out to them and tell them to immediately find out the relationships between the developers and anyone in the local and state government... including the legal system. Then you can bring up a much bigger case, and possible help people in the past abused by the same self serving corrupted lot.
I agrre with you. Many times there are those in local gvmt hoping the new development will increase property tax revenue. I am sure the nwr development woll oncrease revenues.
I've lived on Hilton Head Island half my life, and you couldn't buy an outhouse for 30K. Unfortunately some developers have scammed some families out of land that their families owned since the 1800s when the land was considered worthless. I'm glad this has gotten attention, I'm guessing a few eager lawyers will be happy to take on Bailey Investment Group over this mess they've gotten into. Hilton Head also has a history of pulling permits over things like this, and delaying construction for a few years. The town doesn't want negative press, and there's no shortage of developers waiting to build on HH.
Lowball offers sometime bring good results. Not in this case, though. To paraphrase the song "The Little Old Lady (From Pasadena)"--Stay, Granny, Stay!"
Are you freakin' kidding me? the developer only offered 30K for over an acre on Hilton Head ? What a con offer that was. Good for her for saying no. God speed in your fight, keep it up my dear. DC/Lex
I live in South Florida and I am so sick of developers, HOAs and Condo buildings. A lot of historical buildings and affordable housing are being torn down and replaced with high price condos and rentals. Some communities are even using eminent domain to get land for "economic development".
I also live in south florida while us the people get destroyed with high housing costs and insane rent the governer ony cares about woke. He refuses to bring things to the table that are accually affecting every floridian. It's desantis he doesn't care about the people he only cares about his political campaign and what gets him voters. Wondering why the rest of the country is only at a 3 percent inflation and steady going down. While florida inflation is at 9 percent and still rising.
@@WN_Byers Yes but it's happening at a much faster rate in florida. While the rest of the country sits at a 3 percent inflation rate and they are going down on inflation . Florida sits at a 9 percent inflation rate and steadily going up with no signs that it will go down. It's our governer he doesn't care about the economy or the people in florida. All he does it fight against the people in florida rather than help keep the economy in check. We in florida are litterally the only state in america where inflation is rising rather than going down.
@@seanembry6438 I live in florida and we are not free. Police corruption is rampit. The saying goes come on vacation leave on probation. We are probably the most unfree state in america.
Developer tried this on a family friend when I was younger. Unfortunately for them, she had a legal degree. Made enough from the lawsuit to move into a nicer house in a different city. Best part was she sold the land to a different developer. Downside was that now I had to drive three hours to visit their kid who I was friends with.
Seriously, when my husband passed away, it was less than 3 months when realtors started calling me wanting me to sell. I flat told them I was NOT interested in selling and not to call me again. The realtors probably thought I was hostile, but less than 3 months? Come on, people!
This lady should install surveillance immediately. Developers like this will have no problem hiring someone to torch the owner's home. I remember years ago where I live, a developer was trying to purchase 3 blocks of old buildings, many of which were empty. The occupied buildings refused to sell, over the course of 6 months the remaining buildings mysteriously had fires or inspection issues 3 burned down in a 2-month period. Two more were condemned for fire code violations, one of which had just passed inspection not even 4 months earlier. Shady developers will do whatever it takes to get what they want.
God will have them thrown into a lake of fire unless they repent and put their faith in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. There are only two options. Either Jesus Christ pays for your sins with His precious blood or you pay for them. The first scenario is a beautiful free gift of a gloriously beautiful Being . The second scenario is a tragic horror.
@JeffC-fq1be According to her. That is her version. Apparently, all the developers are doing is developing THEIR land and asking her to remove the stuff she has built on THEIR land. If we go by the court filings, she was asked if she wanted to sell her land, she said no. Fine, no problem. Then they proceeded to develop the surrounding land they owned. There was no offer made. Further, she had structures built outside of her property which they asked her to remove. Apparently that was not disputed, so we can assume that she did in fact encroach on the neighboring property. She removed some of it, decided that she was butthurt as a result and sued them. From the face of it, she appears to be the badly behaved one here, not the developers. She is using her age and her deceased husband's family history in the area to recruit sympathy and supporters. Did I miss anything?
@@Tugela60 Siding with a developer, show the kind of person you are. You don't know her stuff WAS on their land. I 100% take the person's side way way before any developer.
@@joeshmoe7967 Did you miss the part where she already removed the structures? Obviously she agreed that they were not on her land. The only part she was fighting was the patio extension, and the issue there is probably an encroachment on the boundary itself. You are suppposed to leave an easement between your house and the boundary line. If she was building sheds and satelite dishes on other peoples property, just a hunch, but she probably was not getting proper permits for the patio extension either, or respecting building codes. The developers don't appear to be the bad guys here, but you are apparently to stupid to see that.
@@charlesreid9337 I know the feeling. Local median income here is a hair under $32k, average home price is $525k with the lot of our rental home being $215k by itself for a 0.6 acre lot.
😮😮Years ago, a someone needed an 80s+ woman’s land but she wouldn’t sell. The press was so bad, they backed off. Finally, she agreed to a life tenancy. They gave her a bunch of money yearly (hoping she would not live long). She lived a very long time. Lol.
happened in NJ. Same. A couple sitting on hundreds of acres in a growing town, had a dirt floor cabin in Morris County NJ. Developers were itching looking at all their treed land.
Next the County will raise her property tax to the point that she can't pay it then force her out. I saw the same happen in nearby Georgetown years ago.
Well, i doubt a city can raise the taxes arbitrarily without a valid reason. The US constitution does mandate that americans are treated equal in front of the law. So in order to treat people different, you would need to find a justification to infringe with that right. Otherwise the city could as well increase property tax just for black people, or republican/democratic voters or based on the personal optinion of the city council about the land owner.
@@Temo990 Well the difference is you have land in a super valuable location. However, they're unlikely to get away with it with only a 30k offer on the table. If the developer offered a desperately high price above its normal value, then they might be able to do this and make her sell for a high price (still not good if you don't want to move but not highway robbery at least)
Oh geez this struck a nerve. I haven't listened yet, but the title grabbed me. I'm still only 59, not 93, but I have 76 acres only a 10 minute drive from Pittsburgh International Airport. It's gorgeous land with nothing but neighborhoods around me. Are developers salivating and lusting after my property? You betcha! Are they coming to me with realistic offers? No! 🤡😄
@@r.pres.4121 I have basically said that. I do have my property listed for sale. Another problem is the realtor who also sees big dollars, and tries to talk me into giving away my beautiful land because of his huge commission. He tries to talk me down by saying "You have an emotional attachment". In actuality, I'm an informed individual who does not attach myself to material possessions. 😊
Developers/neighbors have been driving my mom nuts about some property she owns. I’ve been meaning to get some pencil sharpeners from the Dollar Tree for her to start passing out to the asshats that can’t take no for an answer. Come back when your pencil is fully sharpened!
Several years ago my grandmother was in a similar situation outside of Charlotte NC, the developer was planning a shopping mall and had acquired all the property around her but she held out. My grandparents had lived in that house(original log cabin with added rooms) since the early 1920s and it started out with a lot of property(around 200 acres) but over the years my grandfather sold off sections of that property to make ends meet so she only had 4 acres at the time. She held out for almost a year before they made her a very high offer of $400,000 for 4 acres that would normally not even get $25,000 an acre, so she sold it and bought a brand new house in the city for $50,000 and stayed there with my cousin until her passing about 6 years later.
Being from the Charlotte area, I know you are familiar with the church that is surrounded by tall buildings. I saw it when I was at the Mint Museum (one of the building surrounding it).
@kelf114 Everything has a price or will eventually. That's the proper way for a developer to handle it not the legal nonsense the one in this video tried to pull
My parents had this happen when they bought one of the 1st homes in a brand-new, moderately priced, development and the area was zoned for single family homes but not duplexes. They promised that duplexes wouldn’t be built, but they changed that original plan after completing about 1/2 of the develop neighborhood. The casually began to contact the early residents and were willing to pay up to $1k but most people just signed away their rights without asking for the consideration offered! My mom held out until we were the last people standing against this change ( my dad was out at $1.5k but mom stood her ground) and the builders were getting irritated. My mom said, “we will sign off for $12k” and my dad said she was crazy and we were going to get nothing because they had made a fair offer for consideration. We ended up getting $10k sold the $74k house shortly after the windfall and used the check(s) to by in a more upscale neighborhood and she reminds dad every time she has the opportunity. He just loves those little chats, I am sure! Never doubt the tenacity of the female who is good with balancing a checkbook and knows the value of a little patience.
sounds like future HOA fun. when the development is done, the newly formed HOA will of course declare that the property in question is part of the HOA. sure, there is no legal basis for it, but it will happen.
I'm from SC and Hilton Head had whole communities of freed slave families that have been passed down through the family called "heirs property" but now bc developers have gone crazy down there most of these families have been taxed out of the area. They just want to live there in peace, they didn't ask for all these others to move in. I which those historic properties could be better protected
My understanding is that such communities came about as a way for plantation owners to encourage formerly enslaved people to stay around as paid laborers. These communities exist throughout the South, and a number still exist in the area where I live, surrounded by urban sprawl. I hope this lady either stays in her house or holds out for a much higher offer from someone else!
It's the laws surrounding "Heirs property" that allowed many developers to attain the land. It wasn't rising property taxes. It's much easier to take land that was passed down without a will and split between multiple family members. A developer simply needed to buy out one or two family members and they could take the rest to court. Steve should do a show on it given so many in Michigan migrated from the south and probably own "Heirs property".
Basically every property owner in NYC's "commutershed" (love that word) is being taxed off their property. We're farther upstate (Schenectady NY area) and we're paying over $6,000 a year in taxes on a 1960 raised ranch and some undevelopable land. At one time our escrow payment was higher than the mortgage payment. Offer us the assessed value right now, and we'll start packing. Could get a decent place in Western TN/WV and knock a zero off the property taxes. A friend just dumped his very nice home in Schenectady, which also housed his law office, and moved to a condo. He was paying over $15,000 a year in taxes. Between the taxes on the condo and the office space he now rents, he's saving money. Moved close to his secretary's home too, so win/win.
One of the difficulties that I've seen in my area is that developers often have the assistance of local governmental agencies trying to coerce people to sell. They'll try using eminent domain, raising taxes and hounding people with constant housing inspections to try to get them to sell or accept a minimal payment. All this in the name of progress that none of the people who actually live there want or need. They bought property there to get away from the 'progress' that's now encroaching on them.
If you are living in an undeveloped area that becomes developed, your land becomes as valuable as your neighbors, so your property taxes are going to go up. There is no conspiracy involved.
It's all possible with bribery and lobbying to change local land use bylaws. It's dirty but lots of money buys anything. Money does not talk, it roars.
@truetranny You do own the property but that does not excuse you from contributing to the maintainance of the community. It costs money to do that, and unlike what most right whingers seem to think, tooth fairies are not a real thing.
@truetranny I see. You want other people to pay for your roads, your water, your sewage system, your police, your emergency services then? But not you, you want all that for free.
@@Tugela60 You can get a septic system, as well as a well for your property, its government regulations usually creating laws saying you cant so they can force you to do as you described charge for those services. Police are only revenue generators most the time, we have too many ticket cops, and not enough crime catching/solving cops, so we could stand to lose a few in some areas. A lot of people also get by with dirt roads just fine. In fact when a state employee comes by to help fix the roads… they leave the dirt roads in worse shape than before sometimes. There is one part of the road that is bad, and guess what? Its only bad cuz its been paved and gets pot holes, I wish they’d have just left it alone it’d have been fine. Also they can take taxes from other areas to fix roads. Property taxes are absurd, they are extortion. You should not be able to lose your home or life over defending your property from the gov.
Elder Abuse: This quote is from the internet... "Those who knowingly and willfully abuse a vulnerable adult are guilty of a felony and face imprisonment of up to five years. State law expands the term “abuse” to cover both physical and psychological forms." Go get thm granddaughter!
Her tires were slashed, stalkers walking outside her home banging on siding and glass windows. Vandalizing her property constantly to encourage her to sell.
Found it on the county GIS. Yep, satellite shows she's completely surrounded by development, but she's got road access. The development forms a U around her parcel. The back porch is almost certainly on her property, but that shed may or may not be over the line. It's hard to say because some of the aerial shots show it on the parcel, some encroaching. You'd need a surveyor. Before the developers showed up, the area behind her house was entirely wooded vacant land, so a mistake on the lot line could certainly happen. The remedy would be to tear down or move the shed back to her property line, but that's all. The county puts the value at $100,000, but taxes the place only as vacant land. She's owned it forever, which may indicate why the assessed value is low. The home is a manufactured home and may still be titled and not taxed as real property. This is why the developer is being a jerk. He considers this lady's property as external depreciation relative to the properties he wants to build (with maybe some plain old racism sprinkled in, as Hilton Head is overwhelmingly white). There's a 1/4 acre lot directly across the street that sold October 2022 for $175,000 when vacant, and there's a nearby vacant listing of a 1/4 acre lot for $170,000. I'd like to know how much they offered. Anything less than $600,000 would be an insult. I'd also get some HD cameras covering the whole lot.
@@cassie6917 We have that near my vacant land. It is why I am so careful about what is happening. Had a neighbor try to build a corral, but it was 15 feet over my lot line. I could never seem to get in touch with them. I paid for a survey of that lot line and a stake every 25 feet. I then went in and put in 6 foot iron posts inside of that line and sprayed them hunter orange. I also went to the local gossip farm, the bank, asking some questions. They got the hint. No squatting allowed.
There’s a long history in SC of this. Most of if not ALL of SC’s barrier islands were owned by slaves or indigenous people after the Civil War because whites considered the land useless. That includes Hilton Head. The developers have a serious problem. They’re using the shed as a ploy to acquire the land. If the shed has been on “they’re” property for over 10 years then it falls under adverse possession. And that belongs to her. Her problem is going to be w/ the local government. However, w/ this becoming public knowledge it will definitely help her cause
"If you are trying to buy it from me, that means it's mine. If it's mine, it's not yours. If it's not yours, you are not in charge of it." It really isn't that hard to understand, and any politician or judge who doesn't understand this needs to leave office.
The house Steve references where the developer built a building around the house is the Edith Macefield house in Seattle (aka the “Up house”). The developers tried to make things so difficult on Edith but she refused to go. The sweet part of the story is that the construction crews unofficially adopted her as their honorary grandma. They would check on her and bring her groceries. She became especially close to the project foreman and when she passed away, she left the house to him. Look up the pictures and the story if you get a chance…you’ll see how close the developer built against her house. It shouldn’t have been allowed.
I was hoping someone would post this. I live near Seattle, so I understood which house Steve was referring to, but couldn't remember all the details. Thanks for filling us all in!
Hah. Here in Houston, they're building brand new houses where the walls are 6 inches from the property line, maybe one foot to the next house. The city and county are happily taking their bribes to create those fire risks that will trap garbage and stuff in between, be unrepairable and uncleanable, and eventually lean on each other. My attitude? "Three feet to the property line, or share a wall."
@@tbelding They are throwing up several new developments in my town like that. Some of them are probably about similar spacing, about 1' or so between each house, and they are charging upwards of $250k for the houses. A fool and their money...
@@gmailisaretard - I keep wondering how they pass the fire marshal. Or rather, how much do they pay the fire marshal to drive by. Firewall ratings or not, that's too darned close for a four story house.
you know, for situations like this I'd like to see punitive damages awarded the plaintiff in the form of the land around her property that the developer acquired. It ensures the developer wont try it again in another place, completely removes the incentive to continue the harassment since they no longer have a financial stake in the area, and serves a sort of grand Irony where their harassment trying to get her to sell her land resulted in them losing theirs to her.
I’m thinking that if you ever find yourself in this type of situation the best thing to do is ask the developer from the very first meeting to put their offer in writing. Secondly, get your property surveyed and the boundaries clearly marked. Next, immediately start taking pictures of every part of your property at least once a week, or more often if there is a notable change. If it ain’t documented then it is, at best, a he said she said situation.
it makes sense to have a survey but are expensive. Hopefully one was done at conveyance and let the developer deal with the legalities. Was the developer's acquired land surveyed also and does it fits together? Maybe it's just county parcel info that is more often than not inaccurate or just incorrect.
"Next, immediately start taking pictures of every part of your property at least once a week, or more often if there is a notable change." Lol! Yeah, because that's a totally realistic and feasible thing to do. There's no reason to take pictures of "every part of your property" more than once every few years (if that) unless you notice any changes. A land survey filed with your county, along with pictures taken when surveyed and pictures taken when changes are made are enough. Anything more is overkill.
I did that about a new neighbor harrasing my kids by documenting everything he said or did and called his attorny about what I was going to do in court. I never heard another word.
He is a developer. Im just wondering why I grace you all with my presence? I mean, I know nothing about this subject and yet someone is insisting that I do this. Im not a coder and its kinda hard to figure anything out when some Ahole is bouncing me around and making a mockery of me. Fact is, I NEVER signed up for this and for some reason can not ABORT! !! ..!!! I dont know who you think you Re You could be Jakyll for all i give a royal F. Lol yeaaah
A man in Hurst, Tx lost his life trying to defend his home from a mall developer that wanted to put a multi-story parking lot next to their mall. No joke, it made the news back in the 80s or 90s. He refused to sell and the city condemned his property out from under him.
My granny experienced similar. I had experience working with farmers facing loss of land under eminent domain. We knew we would ultimately loose. But we fought to near the bitter end. We got more for the properties than those that caved immediately. My Granny was the last holdout. She was nervous but she trusted me. She got 2.5 to 3 times more money than the early sellouts.
My first experience with this was as a kid watching a Herbie the Love Bug movie where Keenan Wynn was trying to take an old woman’s home for a giant building.
This happened to my great grandmother. And the developer actually built a u shaped building around her home and the family had to tear it down after she died as part of the eminent domain agreement. My great grandfather devoted his life to building many homes in that city including his own. Sad it worked out the way it did for her after he died. RIP Hilma Letourneau. I hope this case works out differently.
@@steveb6103 thanks for that Steve. At least she was able to live her final days there. I may need to make a trip out there for some Cup and Cone! They used to let us clean up the parking lot as kids for free ice cream!
Any time a developer or even a builder comes in near you or a family member get a survey of your property. If you live in a small area where the surverer might be close to someone in authority, find a highly rated one from a different area.
Steve - greetings from Yorkshire. We’ve got a great example dating back to to 60’s-70’s, where there was a lot of building of motorways (3-lanes each direction). The case involved a sheep farmer up on the moors where the new M62 which connects the main M1 (Leeds to London ) to Manchester Airport. The countryside up there is fit for sheep hence the farmhouse and stubborn Yorkshireman that refused to move. It went through the courts numerous times and in the end the farmer won! The result is the 3-lanes heading to to Manchester have to divert some distance to the left side of the farmhouse whilst the other 3-lanes heading to Leeds are on the right hand side. The farmer used sit on top of his barn with his shotgun (we don’t have the 2A, pity) and a couple of border collies sheepdogs. Absolute hero that forced a major change in a motorway, plus all the extra safe access to get the sheep off the moors as winter came in. Easy to find on the net.
More power to her! It is one thing when the government takes land by eminent domain for a major public project like a road. Quite another when a developer, or even worse the government on behalf of a developer, tries to take land or force a sale. I had an old family friend that lived next a major university campus that wanted his house for development. They were able to force all of his neighbors to sell but, like this woman, he did not want to move. He was around 80 at the time as I recall. The university tried to bring out the big guns to go after him but they met their Waterloo when they took him on. Fortunately, he was fairly wealthy and could afford the multi-year fight. He continued to live there until he eventually died in his 90's.
Pfizer did this in new London CT. The city took a whole bunch of homes through eminent domain with a few holdouts taking it to the supreme court where they lost 5-4. The court ruled that eminent domain can be used for private development ie more taxes collected job creation and secondary development parks infostructure etc.. 9 years later Pfizer cancels the project and moves what people who were working in the city prior to all this and moves them to Groton CT. so the city was left with no factory, no jobs and no taxes from homes that no longer exist. the supreme court screwed this one up royally.
@@toddgaak422 After that travesty of justice, a bunch of Patriots got together and tried to take Chief Justice Rhenquist's house under Eminient Domain for a development to be known as the "Lost Liberty Hotel." Gubment shut them down quick.
A rock quarry did the same thing to my grandma and ran them out...my old homeplace is gone and the water contaminated Let's spread the word on the disgusting tactics of Bailey Investment Group and what they're doing to that 93 yr old woman
First thing you do when a developer makes a lowball offer for your land, is install freakin' security cameras. Because when the dirty tricks, vandalism, theft, trespassing, snooping and pressure tactics start, you want to get them on video.
I "home based" on the Monterey Peninsula, Ca. for 25+ yrs. I saw a lot of changes and a lot of development during this time, especially along Fisherman's Wharf and Cannery Row. There used to be a large number of small houses that the cannery workers used to live in. One by one they disappeared, being replaced by monster hotels and expensive restaurants. Well, some of the land owners did not want to sell. Every year around Nov to Dec, those homes mysteriously went up in flames. THEY BURNED THEM OUT!! Nothing could be proven and no one was convicted of it. It got to where the insurance companies didn't want to insure these homes any longer. It got to be a running joke in that area that the holiday seasons were replaced by fire seasons. This was primarily during the 70's & 80's. I retired from the Army in 2004 and moved out of the region in 2005. At that time, there was maybe 3 old homes remaining. Money sure can bring out the devil in people.
In the uk there is a old farm between the two lanes of the m62 motorway which they had to build around. Officially it was because there was a geological fault under the farm and they decided to go around, but most people believe the owner refused to sell.
What the hell does a Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation have to do with any of this? Did you hear "SLAPP" in reference to lawsuits and just thought it would make you sound smart if you repeated it?
You've got it backwards. 'SLAPP' lawsuits are what the developer would use against the landowner (or landowners) who are complaining about changes to local zoning, building locations on property (setbacks), environmental reviews, etc. This is similar but not actually a SLAPP suit as it only involves one defendant (the old lady) and its not her complaining (at first).
I hope she gets to enjoy her property for a long time to come and that the harassment doesn’t end her life sooner than it would have naturally occurred. My siblings and I inherited some property from out parents when they died. We get harassed almost on a daily basis by people wanting to buy it, wanting to buy the houses we live in and no matter how many times we tell them no and to leave us alone they keep calling and writing. It’s irritating and stressful. But the only answer they’re going to get is NO. If we ever decide to sell it certainly won’t be to someone who is constantly calling and harassing us, and I’ve told them that but they still keep it up.
To everyone in this thread: What the OP doesn't understand (or hasn't made clear) is that it's not the same company calling him/her, and he/she is not the only homeowner receiving a barrage of calls offering to purchase their home. Every homeowner in select areas whose property values have gone up in the last three years are receiving a barrage of calls, texts, and mail expressing an interest in buying their home/land. I wouldn't call it "harassment" as that's not what's actually happening, even if OP feels like they are being harassed. I get a ton of calls and texts every day as well, and I have also been on the Do Not Call registry (DNCR) since its inception. It's annoying, but there's nothing that can be done about it except declining to answer calls from unrecognized numbers. (Blocking does nothing to keep new numbers from calling you.) If you must answer the call, then it's as simple as telling the person on the other end that your house is not for sale, that your number is on the DNCR, and to remove your number from their database. Then hang up. This is effective. If OP insists on engaging any more with them, then I'd question OP's propensity for and enjoyment from playing the victim.
This kind of crap happens all the time. Often the city backs the developer and they will try to use/abuse eminent domain. The Institute for Justice is very helpful for this situation. I wouldn't trust the developer's survey, either.
I had to get a no soliciting sing because I kept getting harassed by door to door people. I even over the years have had to send cease and desist letters for people failing to respect that sign for tress passing.
I am in Augusta, Georgia and yes, we do have two homeowners who never sold to the masters. They now live at the entrance to a parkway. One of them rents during masters week and gets a lot of money.
In Saratoga Springs, NY, while Saratoga Racecourse is open every Summer, the city is absolutely bustling. Some folks used to (and still do) rent their homes out to the "Horsey set" during track season, and enjoy nice vacations with the money they get.
This reminds me of the case of Molly Forbes, a Scottish woman in her nineties who refused to sell her farm to some unscrupulous New York property developer who wanted to build a hotel on his golf course in South Ayrshire, Scotland. Amongst other things, he cut off the water to her farm. She was made of stronger stuff than he was. He never built his hotel. I understand he's facing criminal charges in the USA at the moment.
Same guy cut heat and hot water to the renters in one of his slumlord buildings in NY back in the 80's. He even moved homeless people in, to try to get the paying renters to leave so he could rebuild the building as condos.
@@JD-lx2yf In the words of the dastardly and villainous (fictional) politician, Francis Urquhart "You might think that, but I couldn't possibly comment."
Lop you mean trump and you dont understand ownership laws over there. No one unless royal assigned owns property there. Its what's called a freehold lease. Inheritors must live on property when lease holder dies. Trump was going to buy it as a freehold but he would never be true owner as he isn't from a Commonwealth nation and therefore cannot be royal assigned. If it was in interest of crown or Scotland govt thee Scottish common good laws would kick in and or true crown ownership enforced. Lol but at the time Scottish politics were very close. Wasn't her refusal to "sell" or move that stopped the hotel. Was politics as she was only holdout in area and therefore if politics not involved and a true unbiased hearing took place the fact that all the others sold out and a hotel would be an economic boon in whitecairn which at the time had serious unemployment problems . all the freeholders in area sold out as most were like her seniors with lord assugebd properties from fifty plus years ago. They all sacrificed their freehold but her in order their kids and grandchildren would have significant good long employment. Lol Trump isnt going to get nailed hard at all. Be zero prison time and otherwise at most won't be able to run in election if forced into trial beforehand which won't happen. Youre also assuming another biden win. Lolevem with all the garbage hes said and done if a snap election held today he'd win easy. June he has a three point poll lead over the general electorate and lol posed to win Cali. Ties in NY. Just two points behind Oregon. Biden might also be declared medically unfit to run by then as well. Lol do you know why hes having short term memory losses trips so much has left arm tremors slurs speech etc. He obviously had a stroke they're weakly covering up. He was coherent walked fine etc one day then next and ever since its all those indicators he had a medium level stroke or frontal lobe blood vessel aneurysm. My mom had one and my grandpa had a strike. Both acted exactly like he did afterwards but strike wise its a bad sign things are like that for him for so long now. Its been a few months. Meanwhile trump in great physical and mental health. Anyways Molly didnt have a legal inheritor so her freehold got returned to Scots gov. Michael got kicked off land last year. Lol at her claim he made her life miserable. Place was truly a pigsty. That farm had many code violation visits and numerous complaints far before trump got there her life miserable makes me sick not for her but all the neighbours who sold out expecting kids etc to have good jobs and save the area economically. Old witch! Knew she was going to die soon so took her hatred out on area neighborhood and entire generations of family. Disgusting of her and egfen you to think way y'all do. Sure it screws up developers but it also screws up economic development which would affect hundreds in area for possibly entire lifetimes. Tennessee case even worse as thats such a huge development be thousands affected if don't go through. Then all the bonds developer and contractors placed with countystatre or city would have to be returned with penalty and interest added. It salso makes any futiute development in area a very high risk as one would be well if one holdout wins why bother? Lol yep loves her house and land to point that everyone else in area suffers immensely. Ahhh the bane of America!! Individual rights out trumping the common good. Lol at you
If she owns 1.3 acres how did any of her stuff end up on the neighbors land (the shed etc). Sounds kinda shady to me. Like you said they need to get someone out there to check out the property lines, and sue them for damages to her property. We don't really have a right to be left alone. The govt can claim eminent domain, take your shit, and then give it to a private company.
Yes they can they do it all the time in my state of Ohio. They say is needed for something else then sell off to the company sometimes they just take it and your SOL. you spend millions im court then still lose
In addition there is just about nowhere in the US where you can get 1.3 acres that has access to utilities for a mere $30,000, especially in a place developers are eager to buy. Hilton Head is coastal S. Carolina. I can’t imagine anything going for less than 500K/acre. Just take a gander at the Zillow estimates. That developer is absolutely trying to rip off an elderly widow
owned 40 acres that a developer wanted, they harassed me for years because they wanted my acess to the river and I owned 1/4 mil of front and they couold not go around, finally took them to court and filed a restraining order against them and the company. They bought about 20 acres and they have not developed them because of me,, that was 16 years ago..
30,000? In Hilton Head? That's not a lowball offer. That's a RIPOFF offer. She should be filing criminal harassment charges AS A MINIMUM against the officers of this "developer", as well as a counter lawsuit.
The most famous one I ever heard of was in San Francisco. Someone wanted a property which had a spectacular view of the bay, but the owner wouldn't sell. The 'Someone' bought up all the land around that property then built a two or three story high wall, blocking the view. This was in late 1800s. There were no zoning laws and the company had political pull. The afflicted property became a tourist attraction, but the owner hung on for years.
Figures that the corrupt and criminally influenced Utah politicians would use eminent domain for a private corporation. The self-important and self-righteous political classes act all innocent and righteous when they sit in Church, yet in private, they are compromised, treacherous, depraved and diabolical. There is a reason that Utah has the highest child pornography and child sex trafficking (per capita) in the country.
Bought my land 20 years ago to retire into. Now the county park system is making numerous attempts to buy my land to absorb it into the county park system. I’ve been telling them they can take that up with my family when I die. Like this woman, I just want to be left alone.
They are doing this crap here in Idaho too. One guy in my town has a large chunk of land right in the middle of town. Last offer was for 5 million. He is still refusing. The worst part is we have over 2300 homes going in. The state hydrological surveyors have already calculated that there isn't enough water for a third of those homes. The biggest problem is the mayor is behind a bunch of the homes being built. It needs to end. The other bad part is with the last housing boom, a 3 bed 1 bath house is over 2k a month to rent. These are 1950's homes with popcorn ceilings. The other part of the issue is since we are outside of Boise Idaho the prices for homes have gone up so much that my kids will never be able to afford a home here. There were bidding wars for houses here over the past few years too. Some home buyers were paying 100 to 150k over asking price. A year later and the foreclosures are starting to happen.
While I’m sure there are people like this lady who due to many reasons are not interested in selling at all, I’m convinced a lot of these incidents result from failure to approach people properly, treat them fairly, and not overreact to their initial positions.
The city of Blue Ash, Ohio, had a similar problem to your hometown. Parts of Blue Ash had small houses on small lots, and people were buying two lots next to each other, tearing both houses down and building a McMansion. They tried to pass or did pass an ordinance to stop it.
A guy held out for a bigger offer than the other tenants. He literally was the last tenant in there and the developer started intimidating him too. He lived their thru jack hammers, drilling, etc. He ended yo getting a $20 million offer which was thought to be the biggest in New York or the U.S.A.
There was an exact case you mentioned in Atlantic City, NJ right after the state approved gambling. 1970's?. The developer built a casino on three sides of a lady's house. That house and casino are both now gone.
I KNOW! People keep trying to buy my house too! I had JUST bought the house too six years ago, and I already started receiving cold calls wanting to buy it!
House on it, possibly historic..probably closer to a million or more. I would drop the house on the historic registry if possible remember its been in the family since the 1870's or so...nothing like having to also fight the historical society.
@duanesamuelson2256 Depending on how strict the historic committee is, you should never put your house on or buy a house that's on a historic registry. A family friend bought a run down house that was on a historic registry. Everything he did to that house had to be "period correct" and approved by a board that had five members who nit picked every thing. It took over three years to do what should have been a nine month rehab and it cost triple what he had budgeted.
@@po2709 I'm well aware of dealing with historical societies, or as I've come to know them in multiple states "hysterical societies". I was just thinking about how much of a pain it would be for the developer if they ever get their hands on the property. Nothing like doing a demolition and be ordered, with legal backing, that you have to do a restoration to the original using correct period construction and materials.
My Dad told me a story about something similar that happened to him over 50 years ago. He used to live in a house that was right next to a company's production plant. They were very good neighbors right up until they wanted to expand that plant. Before they even made an offer to buy the nearby properties, they started a campaign of harassment, revving trucks all night long near the homes, blocking driveways, etc. My Dad's theory was that since all the properties were rental homes, the reason for the harassment was to get the renters to leave so that the company could get a better price when buying from the owners.
An unfortunate situation. Where I live a local company purchased a property from an older gentleman with the agreement they would allow him to live on the property until he passed away. That's the way to do it. Better than a reverse mortgage. He had enough money to live in comfort. That was about 40 years ago. Things have certainly changed.
I thought that the Supreme Court ruled on this a number of years ago about some shopping center that someone wanted to put up and they ruled in favor of the developer. There was a huge uproar about it.
This is happening all over South Carolina right now, and really has been for decades. My family's property used to be over 2k acres. Now it's 110 acres. Eminent Domain they say. There's a Walmart shopping center on a part of it now.
Some places require you present a proposed development plan, that shows the shadows that will be created by the new development, to determine whether the sun exposure of the neighboring properties will be adversely effected. They will not let you block the sunlight shining on a neighboring property. (ie: Calgary, Alberta, Canada).
My grandfather had property on the land that o'hare airport currently sits on and when the developers needed his portion to extend o'hare he held out for as long as possible like he was the ONLY house left in the area. He finally sold it and was paid enough to but a 2 acre property and HAD a house built for him and my dad and aunt's and uncles.
There was an (in)famous case in Australia, about which a movie was made ("The Castle") but the movie did not make clear what actually happened in the real life case; just that the property owner won the case. The government wanted some land (I think it was to expand an airport) and tried to use Eminent Domain to get the land, but the price they were allowed to offer in compensation was just the bare, undeveloped land value, not the current market value. The owner of one house took the government and developer to court, arguing that it was unfair because he wouldn't be able to purchase another home for the money they were offering. In the end, the court agreed and ruled that the government could still seize the land under Eminent Domain, but had to pay fair market value in compensation for the land in its current state including any buildings and other developments, not merely the "bare land" value. The last thing I heard was that the development fell through and was abandoned, although I'm not sure why. Perhaps it was the added cost of acquiring the land, or the costs and delays from the court case, or both combined which were the deciding factor (or perhaps something else of which I am not aware).
Sadly, if she wins and the developer builds around her, she will be surrounded by an HOA that will certainly attempt to finish the job of driving her off the property.
This exact same thing happened where I live in Salina, KS. The Pepsi plant bought out every bit of property in one block, with the exception of one tiny house belonging to an elderly man who would not sell. They built their plant all around his house, and it sat there for years until I assume he passed away and his heirs finally sold it to the Pepsi plant.
Been noticing that in the new studio your light seems a lot more variable, I'm assuming because you have an exterior window. @9:28 the colour goes completely flat all of a sudden.
One of my favorite examples of developers being bungholes is what the developers of the second major high rise condos in Las Vegas did. 4 38-story towers near but not on the Strip with lovely views. Then the developer shortly after finishing that, ran over and grabbed a hunk of land right next door and built the Fountainbleu Hotel + Casino. >700 foot tall hotel on the Strip (tallest building in Nevada). And they built a TWENTY TWO story parking garage that looks like it's 50 feet from two of the condos. So much for the lovely view of the Strip these floofy condos used to have. Those facing that direction below about the 24th floor now mostly have views of a parking garage, or the face of a 3000 room hotel tower, and those higher up still have significantly obstructed views of the tower looming 300 feet higher. The condo owners sued (of course) and were told what you don't own you don't control. Basically, what did you expect to be built on a prime hunk of property on the Las Vegas Strip? Words to remember. What you don't own you don't control.
There's something strange about this whole thing. They owned 1.9 acres of land but built their shed and installed their satellite dish right on the property line (and over it I guess)? And the developer says that the main house (the porch) is over the property line as well? Why would you build so close to the property line when you have almost 2 full acres?
not really. if the developer was correct it all depends on how far back the shed goes. talking about a 50-60 year old structure surrounded by farm land, swamp, overgrown fields.. or just two friendly neighbors. Back in the 90s.. my mom's neighbors and her had to pay for a survey to understand the property lines before mom sold, reason why is the field to our south was open pasture but over the years we were mowing a little more in to it maybe a few inches a year. (most likely my fault for always being in a hurry to go have fun). At times we were renting it for our horses, throw up a quick electric fence and let them munch of it for a couple of months, so the border moved semi-naturally. It happens.
I have my doubts that they even tried to buy it. Doubt that they would’ve done so by knocking on the door if they did. They are probably just developing the land around her and she doesn’t like it.
There is a town where every property in a block is off by 15 or so feet. it's a disaster. As now, the railroad wants to sell an old station, it's nearly impossible to use. Because all the properties in the block, lose 15 on one side, and have it on the other, except, the old train station, where it just loses 15 or so feet. The train station is impossible to sell, as you cannot step outside the building without trespassing. Adding insult to injury, is there is a Dollar General beside the train station, and they claimed their 15 foot on one side, and the other, and put up a barrior to prevent anyone from driving from the old train station to their parking lot, which is 15-ish feet over. I considered buying, but my head hurt. Every property beside the train station, jumped 15 feet over, 200 years ago. So, the train station, land, 15 foot, is under the neighbors properties. I'm not sure you can take down a barrior that's on your property, that's been there years before you bought it. At least not during the day (lol). Dollar General, if forced to use their land, to have a driveway, they'd have to buy the neighboring house. I dont know how to fix it. Oh, and there is an old road going right beside the train station on the one side. Not enough room to step out, without getting hit. insurance nightmare.
Similar situation happened to my uncle, working class neighborhood to mini mansions, the property taxes and the local government eventually pushed him out.
30K for the land and house? Sounds like they are trying to rip her off.
Add a 1 and 2 zeros in front of that and maybe I'll sell
It’s Hilton head, it’s worth at least 30 times the offered a,out.
Likely subdivide the land. She keeps a 1/4 acre and house while they build houses on the other 1.5 acres
What was your first clue?
@@I.C.Weiner add a couple more zeros
The fact that they took to a bogus lawsuit so quickly after a low ball offer shows they're scum bags.
yeah they definitely tried to get it for a steal and got salty they didn't have their way
I'm sure the land itself was worth more, and we know a house on an acre and a half of land is worth more than 30k anywhere pretty much.
All large construction companies are
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@@Grimpmann The vast majority of Hilton Head is gated high end development. The cheapest lot I can find for sale on the island greater than 1 acre is smaller than hers and listed for $229k
A friend's grandmother owned the last large tract of land that wasn't a working farm in the township we lived in. She was harassed mercilessly to sell. She changed her number, they got it and kept calling. They dumped illegally on the property, then reported the dumping. When she got fed up, she deeded the property to the Nature Conservancy, so it can't be developed.
When we lived in Florida our neighbor did the same thing. Which was great for us as all the land behind our house remained undeveloped.
Great solution!
That's great! What a wise woman!
Love it!
Good for her!!!
Offering $39,000 for property that would easily fetch $750,000- $1,000,000 tells you all you need to know. Fight on lady! And due to her age, if the unthinkable happens, I hope her family continues the fight to keep their property.
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Holy harley's hatman
They have a bad aim.
As someone who had a property stolen from me by fraud...there is a special place in hell for people that steal someones property. Now we need to ensure that we make their time on earth just as hellish.
I wish the MAN would just knock on the door; l hate these cowardly intimidation tactics.😡
Unless and until _every_ American stands in their front doorway, _locked and loaded,_ and emphatically says _"Hell no!"_ We will continue to be oppressed and bullied by the system for the benefit of the 1%. We must unite and stand together as one people in order to defeat Big Brother.
Watch the developer 'accidentally ' ruin her property (aside from noise, bullying tactics) by building in such a way, her property will now flood
More than one developer has tried that, and been shut down.
Legally they can't do that. Any time you build you are responsible for the water coming off of your land.
@@riccochet704 so "sue me", they pay the settlement, but your land is now uninhabitable so you have to move, and they then make another offer.
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Then you sue for enough to repair the land!
@@pvtbuddie and the magistrate denies your suit and awards you the "value" of the land as assessed, which isn't enough to fix the problem, then his daughter coincidentally gets a job with another firm owned by the same developer.
You are correct, of course. I'm just a cynic.
But property developers have been getting away with this kind of thing since property has been developed. In the olden days they'd just send people to rough you up repeatedly, smash everything, threaten your family etc.
I had a developer inquire into my property. When I declined he said with a smirk, "We'll see about that." I let him get pretty far into it before I informed his people that there are 3 protected and at least 1 endangered species on my property.
His smirk went away.
I always thought that if someone tried to force me to sell I’d fill the home with hazmat in barrels. Truckers would love to drop it off and I won’t let the buyers into the house until they gave me the money. The they would get stuck with the hazmat.
I recently had a utility try to widen the easement onto my property. I put 1” rebars in the ground on my property and you should have heard the noise when it went through their brush hog. They ended with damage to a tire and their brush hog. They were swearing at me and I told them they went out of the easement and it’s not my problem.
i did something similar, except i "accidentally" started a protected species act investigation on the developers land, preventing them from building for over 6 years. oops
@@Chris_at_Home How much of your property did they steal?
@@Chris_at_Home Just get a few Houston Toads and a pair of Bald Eagles. You should see the look of terror in a developer's eyes.
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Developers should never be allowed to do these things. If someone doesn't want to sell their property and home. Then that should be the end of it. If her shed and satellite dish were truly on the Developers land I can understand that, but they shouldn't have had to file a lawsuit to remove them. This is clearly intimidation and trying to force her to sell because of legal fees she will incur.
First thing I would hope the judge would ask is “did you address this with the homeowner before coming here?” And I would want to see proof that they did. If not, throw that garbage lawsuit out. You have to at least make some attempt to remedy the situation before going to court. Somehow I doubt they ever did and just blindsided her with all and any minor code violations they could find and a few they just made up apparently.
Most likely they told her to move them nicely. We done that and were ignored. That is when lawyers get involved
If said shed and dish were on their land by a small amount and preexisted their purchase of the land, the *proper* thing would be to just grant her a small easement for a few $ like a decent person, rather than be a parasitic leech and sue.
She could probably counter claim adverse possession
TBH, if her shed had been there for years, I'd be inclined to say there was adverse possession and the developer can pound sand.
I feel for her, I have been harassed about selling my property as well, I finally gave them a price of $1,000,000. They said it's not worth a million, I said that's my price, take it or walk away and don't come back without a million dollars. They haven't been back. Funny stuff man!
That's exactly what I have done with our corner block suburban house. I told the agent "Yes, I'll sell it right now for our price which is $5 million". (5 times the going rate here) "Pay that and we'll move out tomorrow". They don't come back.
I get regular calls about my house
When I decide to waste my time to answer the call I tell them 4.5 million in cash
In nonsequantial bills
None of the bills are to be larger than a fifty
If that is not doable then lose my fucking number
OMG I thought I was the only one who did that!😂 The asking price for my 120k hovel is 1.5 million. Yeah I haven't had a call in over a year now, 😈
I am glad that is maybe a trend. The area around my hovel is being developed, and I have been getting weekly calls asking if I want to sell "any of my properties". No wasn't working, so I worked up a figure to buy, relocate, and improve on a new property and doubled it [taxes, etc]. Generally the caller hangs up, but one insisted on knowing why the price was so high. I explained it really wasn't any of his business, but here is the breakdown ... then they hung up ;-)
That seems like the funnest response too. Like ask for at least three times the amount that'd actually make you go "hm, maybe I'd sell for this much." If they don't accept that offer then you can just go "well, I guess you don't really want it then, you know what you have to pay if you want to keep talking to me."
I love the fact that her granddaughter is involved and telling the story to the media and supports her grandmother. Thank you
Once the future of the beloved grandchildren are in the spotlight and under a microscope of these tossers; maybe grandma will remember some deed stuff.
You can support your grandma realizing she won't want to move for any amount of money, but still prefer money yourself when she's gone.
She might like the land. I know these developers keep scooping land and turning them into suburban labyrinth hellscapes in Tennessee.
They are doing it everywhere
That's the goal.
Make zoning ridiculous, make it extremely expensive and difficult to build a house, get a big check from local big wig, let them slap down some overpriced apartments to charge abhorrent rent, boom profit!
Governments no longer work for the people, they serve as an in-between to rob and pillage the citizens of the country.
Yep notice all the Soviet style commieblock apartments popping up everywhere?
Better than the urban hellscapes
It isn't just Tennessee. They are pulling that in Missouri and Arkansas as well.
When I hear about these things I always want to reach out to them and tell them to immediately find out the relationships between the developers and anyone in the local and state government... including the legal system.
Then you can bring up a much bigger case, and possible help people in the past abused by the same self serving corrupted lot.
Roping a developer into a R.I.C.O. case that implicates/enjoins the local governing board is always good.
I agrre with you. Many times there are those in local gvmt hoping the new development will increase property tax revenue. I am sure the nwr development woll oncrease revenues.
@@TheLoiteringKid ...You mean a RICO case?
@@DannyGraves1775 yes >
Government's like evil people in a lair tenting their fingers like "hmm how do we oppress people today?"
North Carolina has a horrible history of allowing land theft; I hope this woman is able to stay and be at peace for however much time she has left!
It's South Caroline and we're worse.
@@P_RO_ my mistake, but i'm sure similar reasons for both states' unlawful seizings :(
Thanks, Robert Moses
You misspelled United States of America
Using the state condemnation laws for private developers just shows how corrupt our gov't has become.
I've lived on Hilton Head Island half my life, and you couldn't buy an outhouse for 30K. Unfortunately some developers have scammed some families out of land that their families owned since the 1800s when the land was considered worthless. I'm glad this has gotten attention, I'm guessing a few eager lawyers will be happy to take on Bailey Investment Group over this mess they've gotten into. Hilton Head also has a history of pulling permits over things like this, and delaying construction for a few years. The town doesn't want negative press, and there's no shortage of developers waiting to build on HH.
The story I read, said they offered her $30k. How could 1.8 acres on HHI be worth that little? Sounds shady to me.
It’s not illegal to make an offer, even if it is a ridiculous one.
But it must be done so in good faith.
Lowball offers sometime bring good results. Not in this case, though. To paraphrase the song "The Little Old Lady (From Pasadena)"--Stay, Granny, Stay!"
It's worth way more than that. They were counting on the old lady not knowing that.
@BigGuy10Points they did make it in good faith. Do you have any reason to doubt that they would have paid her the $30,000 if she had accepted?
Are you freakin' kidding me? the developer only offered 30K for over an acre on Hilton Head ? What a con offer that was. Good for her for saying no. God speed in your fight, keep it up my dear. DC/Lex
$30,000 for almost 2 acres on Hilton Head is an insult. The developer thought the lady would be a push over.
@@raymondrak961 I agree, this developer is a con man. I am glad she is fighting. DC/Lex
I live in South Florida and I am so sick of developers, HOAs and Condo buildings. A lot of historical buildings and affordable housing are being torn down and replaced with high price condos and rentals. Some communities are even using eminent domain to get land for "economic development".
Honestly this is the kinda stuff the second amendment is for, they are just getting away with it being labeled as "private entity".
Its hapoening everywhere. EVERYWHERE. Not just Florida
I also live in south florida while us the people get destroyed with high housing costs and insane rent the governer ony cares about woke. He refuses to bring things to the table that are accually affecting every floridian. It's desantis he doesn't care about the people he only cares about his political campaign and what gets him voters. Wondering why the rest of the country is only at a 3 percent inflation and steady going down. While florida inflation is at 9 percent and still rising.
@@WN_Byers Yes but it's happening at a much faster rate in florida. While the rest of the country sits at a 3 percent inflation rate and they are going down on inflation . Florida sits at a 9 percent inflation rate and steadily going up with no signs that it will go down. It's our governer he doesn't care about the economy or the people in florida. All he does it fight against the people in florida rather than help keep the economy in check. We in florida are litterally the only state in america where inflation is rising rather than going down.
@@seanembry6438 I live in florida and we are not free. Police corruption is rampit. The saying goes come on vacation leave on probation. We are probably the most unfree state in america.
Developer tried this on a family friend when I was younger. Unfortunately for them, she had a legal degree. Made enough from the lawsuit to move into a nicer house in a different city.
Best part was she sold the land to a different developer.
Downside was that now I had to drive three hours to visit their kid who I was friends with.
Thanks for sharing this story! It needs far more traction than it's getting! A 93 year old woman ought to be able to live in peace!
Seriously, when my husband passed away, it was less than 3 months when realtors started calling me wanting me to sell. I flat told them I was NOT interested in selling and not to call me again. The realtors probably thought I was hostile, but less than 3 months? Come on, people!
@@hamrad645 No heart whatsoever! So sad! 💔
She's 93. What happens if she says peace was never an option? Blaze of glory granny
@@Daves_Not_Here_Man_76 Considering how much she'd already done, she did try to pursue peace.
This lady should install surveillance immediately. Developers like this will have no problem hiring someone to torch the owner's home. I remember years ago where I live, a developer was trying to purchase 3 blocks of old buildings, many of which were empty. The occupied buildings refused to sell, over the course of 6 months the remaining buildings mysteriously had fires or inspection issues 3 burned down in a 2-month period. Two more were condemned for fire code violations, one of which had just passed inspection not even 4 months earlier. Shady developers will do whatever it takes to get what they want.
God will have them thrown into a lake of fire unless they repent and put their faith in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. There are only two options. Either Jesus Christ pays for your sins with His precious blood or you pay for them. The first scenario is a beautiful free gift of a gloriously beautiful Being . The second scenario is a tragic horror.
If she's 91 I vote she goes full Granny Clampett. These developers understand precious little else. Are claimjumping laws still valid?
No one seems to be arguing over mineral rights.
Need to get a court order to stop the harassment.
It may not be harrassment, it sounds like the developer is developing their land and she does not like it.
Trespassing and intimidation isn't harassment?
@JeffC-fq1be According to her. That is her version.
Apparently, all the developers are doing is developing THEIR land and asking her to remove the stuff she has built on THEIR land.
If we go by the court filings, she was asked if she wanted to sell her land, she said no. Fine, no problem. Then they proceeded to develop the surrounding land they owned. There was no offer made. Further, she had structures built outside of her property which they asked her to remove. Apparently that was not disputed, so we can assume that she did in fact encroach on the neighboring property. She removed some of it, decided that she was butthurt as a result and sued them. From the face of it, she appears to be the badly behaved one here, not the developers. She is using her age and her deceased husband's family history in the area to recruit sympathy and supporters.
Did I miss anything?
@@Tugela60 Siding with a developer, show the kind of person you are. You don't know her stuff WAS on their land. I 100% take the person's side way way before any developer.
@@joeshmoe7967 Did you miss the part where she already removed the structures? Obviously she agreed that they were not on her land. The only part she was fighting was the patio extension, and the issue there is probably an encroachment on the boundary itself. You are suppposed to leave an easement between your house and the boundary line. If she was building sheds and satelite dishes on other peoples property, just a hunch, but she probably was not getting proper permits for the patio extension either, or respecting building codes.
The developers don't appear to be the bad guys here, but you are apparently to stupid to see that.
On Hilton Head????? That property is worth way way more!! That is an exclusive location.
They've been screwing the locals out of their land for awhile now.
Right? $30k wouldn't be reasonable if it was a 10'x10' nevermind something a house could fit on.
@@charlesreid9337 I know the feeling. Local median income here is a hair under $32k, average home price is $525k with the lot of our rental home being $215k by itself for a 0.6 acre lot.
😮😮Years ago, a someone needed an 80s+ woman’s land but she wouldn’t sell. The press was so bad, they backed off. Finally, she agreed to a life tenancy. They gave her a bunch of money yearly (hoping she would not live long). She lived a very long time. Lol.
This happens all the time and here in Texas the cities often use eminent domain to steal the land and give it to the developers.
happened in NJ. Same. A couple sitting on hundreds of acres in a growing town, had a dirt floor cabin in Morris County NJ. Developers were itching looking at all their treed land.
Next the County will raise her property tax to the point that she can't pay it then force her out. I saw the same happen in nearby Georgetown years ago.
Well, i doubt a city can raise the taxes arbitrarily without a valid reason. The US constitution does mandate that americans are treated equal in front of the law. So in order to treat people different, you would need to find a justification to infringe with that right.
Otherwise the city could as well increase property tax just for black people, or republican/democratic voters or based on the personal optinion of the city council about the land owner.
@@Temo990 Well the difference is you have land in a super valuable location. However, they're unlikely to get away with it with only a 30k offer on the table. If the developer offered a desperately high price above its normal value, then they might be able to do this and make her sell for a high price (still not good if you don't want to move but not highway robbery at least)
Oh geez this struck a nerve. I haven't listened yet, but the title grabbed me. I'm still only 59, not 93, but I have 76 acres only a 10 minute drive from Pittsburgh International Airport. It's gorgeous land with nothing but neighborhoods around me. Are developers salivating and lusting after my property? You betcha! Are they coming to me with realistic offers? No! 🤡😄
Tell those greedy developers to stay off your property and go get a life.
@@r.pres.4121 I have basically said that. I do have my property listed for sale. Another problem is the realtor who also sees big dollars, and tries to talk me into giving away my beautiful land because of his huge commission. He tries to talk me down by saying "You have an emotional attachment". In actuality, I'm an informed individual who does not attach myself to material possessions. 😊
When they do give a proper offer, an idea might be to accept with the condition that it has to be another realtor representing them.
@@tgj5680 😄 The developers here don't use realtors. They have their own team of "steamrollers" on their payroll. 😉
Developers/neighbors have been driving my mom nuts about some property she owns. I’ve been meaning to get some pencil sharpeners from the Dollar Tree for her to start passing out to the asshats that can’t take no for an answer. Come back when your pencil is fully sharpened!
Several years ago my grandmother was in a similar situation outside of Charlotte NC, the developer was planning a shopping mall and had acquired all the property around her but she held out. My grandparents had lived in that house(original log cabin with added rooms) since the early 1920s and it started out with a lot of property(around 200 acres) but over the years my grandfather sold off sections of that property to make ends meet so she only had 4 acres at the time. She held out for almost a year before they made her a very high offer of $400,000 for 4 acres that would normally not even get $25,000 an acre, so she sold it and bought a brand new house in the city for $50,000 and stayed there with my cousin until her passing about 6 years later.
400,000 for 4 acres in Charlotte? Must have been decades ago.
Being from the Charlotte area, I know you are familiar with the church that is surrounded by tall buildings. I saw it when I was at the Mint Museum (one of the building surrounding it).
I'm sorry to hear that.
Land is irreplaceable.
@kelf114 Everything has a price or will eventually. That's the proper way for a developer to handle it not the legal nonsense the one in this video tried to pull
I think she should have held out for quite a bit more. But at least it was all handled much more morally.
Almost feel like their should be huge fines for those harrassing our elderly who dont want to sell their stuff
My parents had this happen when they bought one of the 1st homes in a brand-new, moderately priced, development and the area was zoned for single family homes but not duplexes. They promised that duplexes wouldn’t be built, but they changed that original plan after completing about 1/2 of the develop neighborhood. The casually began to contact the early residents and were willing to pay up to $1k but most people just signed away their rights without asking for the consideration offered! My mom held out until we were the last people standing against this change ( my dad was out at $1.5k but mom stood her ground) and the builders were getting irritated. My mom said, “we will sign off for $12k” and my dad said she was crazy and we were going to get nothing because they had made a fair offer for consideration. We ended up getting $10k sold the $74k house shortly after the windfall and used the check(s) to by in a more upscale neighborhood and she reminds dad every time she has the opportunity. He just loves those little chats, I am sure! Never doubt the tenacity of the female who is good with balancing a checkbook and knows the value of a little patience.
sounds like future HOA fun. when the development is done, the newly formed HOA will of course declare that the property in question is part of the HOA.
sure, there is no legal basis for it, but it will happen.
The HOA will drain their resources with constant court battles.
That would be impossible!
@@alg190its happened
@@alg190has happened before.
Bear in mind nothing is impossible except death and taxes
I'm from SC and Hilton Head had whole communities of freed slave families that have been passed down through the family called "heirs property" but now bc developers have gone crazy down there most of these families have been taxed out of the area. They just want to live there in peace, they didn't ask for all these others to move in. I which those historic properties could be better protected
Not to mention the developer offer $30k for a property this size? That land is worth at LEAST 10x that, probably higher
My understanding is that such communities came about as a way for plantation owners to encourage formerly enslaved people to stay around as paid laborers. These communities exist throughout the South, and a number still exist in the area where I live, surrounded by urban sprawl. I hope this lady either stays in her house or holds out for a much higher offer from someone else!
It's the laws surrounding "Heirs property" that allowed many developers to attain the land. It wasn't rising property taxes. It's much easier to take land that was passed down without a will and split between multiple family members. A developer simply needed to buy out one or two family members and they could take the rest to court. Steve should do a show on it given so many in Michigan migrated from the south and probably own "Heirs property".
Exactly! Where are you going to relocate on Hilton Head or ANYWHERE for $30,000.
Basically every property owner in NYC's "commutershed" (love that word) is being taxed off their property. We're farther upstate (Schenectady NY area) and we're paying over $6,000 a year in taxes on a 1960 raised ranch and some undevelopable land. At one time our escrow payment was higher than the mortgage payment. Offer us the assessed value right now, and we'll start packing. Could get a decent place in Western TN/WV and knock a zero off the property taxes.
A friend just dumped his very nice home in Schenectady, which also housed his law office, and moved to a condo. He was paying over $15,000 a year in taxes. Between the taxes on the condo and the office space he now rents, he's saving money. Moved close to his secretary's home too, so win/win.
One of the difficulties that I've seen in my area is that developers often have the assistance of local governmental agencies trying to coerce people to sell. They'll try using eminent domain, raising taxes and hounding people with constant housing inspections to try to get them to sell or accept a minimal payment. All this in the name of progress that none of the people who actually live there want or need. They bought property there to get away from the 'progress' that's now encroaching on them.
If you are living in an undeveloped area that becomes developed, your land becomes as valuable as your neighbors, so your property taxes are going to go up. There is no conspiracy involved.
It's all possible with bribery and lobbying to change local land use bylaws. It's dirty but lots of money buys anything. Money does not talk, it roars.
@truetranny You do own the property but that does not excuse you from contributing to the maintainance of the community. It costs money to do that, and unlike what most right whingers seem to think, tooth fairies are not a real thing.
@truetranny I see. You want other people to pay for your roads, your water, your sewage system, your police, your emergency services then? But not you, you want all that for free.
@@Tugela60
You can get a septic system, as well as a well for your property, its government regulations usually creating laws saying you cant so they can force you to do as you described charge for those services.
Police are only revenue generators most the time, we have too many ticket cops, and not enough crime catching/solving cops, so we could stand to lose a few in some areas.
A lot of people also get by with dirt roads just fine. In fact when a state employee comes by to help fix the roads… they leave the dirt roads in worse shape than before sometimes. There is one part of the road that is bad, and guess what? Its only bad cuz its been paved and gets pot holes, I wish they’d have just left it alone it’d have been fine.
Also they can take taxes from other areas to fix roads.
Property taxes are absurd, they are extortion. You should not be able to lose your home or life over defending your property from the gov.
Elder Abuse: This quote is from the internet... "Those who knowingly and willfully abuse a vulnerable adult are guilty of a felony and face imprisonment of up to five years. State law expands the term “abuse” to cover both physical and psychological forms." Go get thm granddaughter!
Her tires were slashed, stalkers walking outside her home banging on siding and glass windows. Vandalizing her property constantly to encourage her to sell.
Found it on the county GIS. Yep, satellite shows she's completely surrounded by development, but she's got road access. The development forms a U around her parcel. The back porch is almost certainly on her property, but that shed may or may not be over the line. It's hard to say because some of the aerial shots show it on the parcel, some encroaching. You'd need a surveyor. Before the developers showed up, the area behind her house was entirely wooded vacant land, so a mistake on the lot line could certainly happen. The remedy would be to tear down or move the shed back to her property line, but that's all.
The county puts the value at $100,000, but taxes the place only as vacant land. She's owned it forever, which may indicate why the assessed value is low. The home is a manufactured home and may still be titled and not taxed as real property. This is why the developer is being a jerk. He considers this lady's property as external depreciation relative to the properties he wants to build (with maybe some plain old racism sprinkled in, as Hilton Head is overwhelmingly white). There's a 1/4 acre lot directly across the street that sold October 2022 for $175,000 when vacant, and there's a nearby vacant listing of a 1/4 acre lot for $170,000. I'd like to know how much they offered. Anything less than $600,000 would be an insult. I'd also get some HD cameras covering the whole lot.
@@cassie6917 We have that near my vacant land. It is why I am so careful about what is happening. Had a neighbor try to build a corral, but it was 15 feet over my lot line. I could never seem to get in touch with them. I paid for a survey of that lot line and a stake every 25 feet. I then went in and put in 6 foot iron posts inside of that line and sprayed them hunter orange. I also went to the local gossip farm, the bank, asking some questions. They got the hint. No squatting allowed.
There’s a long history in SC of this. Most of if not ALL of SC’s barrier islands were owned by slaves or indigenous people after the Civil War because whites considered the land useless. That includes Hilton Head. The developers have a serious problem. They’re using the shed as a ploy to acquire the land. If the shed has been on “they’re” property for over 10 years then it falls under adverse possession. And that belongs to her. Her problem is going to be w/ the local government. However, w/ this becoming public knowledge it will definitely help her cause
"If you are trying to buy it from me, that means it's mine.
If it's mine, it's not yours.
If it's not yours, you are not in charge of it."
It really isn't that hard to understand, and any politician or judge who doesn't understand this needs to leave office.
The house Steve references where the developer built a building around the house is the Edith Macefield house in Seattle (aka the “Up house”). The developers tried to make things so difficult on Edith but she refused to go. The sweet part of the story is that the construction crews unofficially adopted her as their honorary grandma. They would check on her and bring her groceries. She became especially close to the project foreman and when she passed away, she left the house to him. Look up the pictures and the story if you get a chance…you’ll see how close the developer built against her house. It shouldn’t have been allowed.
I was hoping someone would post this. I live near Seattle, so I understood which house Steve was referring to, but couldn't remember all the details. Thanks for filling us all in!
There is a similar story/house in NYC.
Hah. Here in Houston, they're building brand new houses where the walls are 6 inches from the property line, maybe one foot to the next house. The city and county are happily taking their bribes to create those fire risks that will trap garbage and stuff in between, be unrepairable and uncleanable, and eventually lean on each other. My attitude? "Three feet to the property line, or share a wall."
@@tbelding They are throwing up several new developments in my town like that. Some of them are probably about similar spacing, about 1' or so between each house, and they are charging upwards of $250k for the houses.
A fool and their money...
@@gmailisaretard - I keep wondering how they pass the fire marshal. Or rather, how much do they pay the fire marshal to drive by. Firewall ratings or not, that's too darned close for a four story house.
I'm very happy that celebrities are helping this senior. never take advantage of seniors they deserve our respect and compassion...
She stood her ground. Good for her!
you know, for situations like this I'd like to see punitive damages awarded the plaintiff in the form of the land around her property that the developer acquired. It ensures the developer wont try it again in another place, completely removes the incentive to continue the harassment since they no longer have a financial stake in the area, and serves a sort of grand Irony where their harassment trying to get her to sell her land resulted in them losing theirs to her.
I support this idea.
I would fine the developer half a million and give it to the owners.. and place a restraining order on them so they can't harass the owners
@@glenw-xm5zf They'd find ways to do it anyways.
I’m thinking that if you ever find yourself in this type of situation the best thing to do is ask the developer from the very first meeting to put their offer in writing. Secondly, get your property surveyed and the boundaries clearly marked. Next, immediately start taking pictures of every part of your property at least once a week, or more often if there is a notable change. If it ain’t documented then it is, at best, a he said she said situation.
it makes sense to have a survey but are expensive. Hopefully one was done at conveyance and let the developer deal with the legalities. Was the developer's acquired land surveyed also and does it fits together? Maybe it's just county parcel info that is more often than not inaccurate or just incorrect.
And multiple cameras.
Security cameras would be better than just pictures. It doesn't just prove what was damaged, but who did it.
"Next, immediately start taking pictures of every part of your property at least once a week, or more often if there is a notable change."
Lol! Yeah, because that's a totally realistic and feasible thing to do.
There's no reason to take pictures of "every part of your property" more than once every few years (if that) unless you notice any changes. A land survey filed with your county, along with pictures taken when surveyed and pictures taken when changes are made are enough. Anything more is overkill.
I did that about a new neighbor harrasing my kids by documenting everything he said or did and called his attorny about what I was going to do in court. I never heard another word.
My grandma has lived in her home since 1977 she's 91 she ain't moving nowhere 😅😂
I wish this lady the very best.
She's 93, hope she lives long enough to win. If not, will her kids continue the fight?
Steve, never, ever feel bad about being a lawyer. You could've become a developer instead.
I like every lawyer I have ever met. They are smart and fun to talk to
@@emilyfeagin2673 when I'm done speaking with a developer, I feel like I need a shower.
He is a developer. Im just wondering why I grace you all with my presence? I mean, I know nothing about this subject and yet someone is insisting that I do this. Im not a coder and its kinda hard to figure anything out when some Ahole is bouncing me around and making a mockery of me. Fact is, I NEVER signed up for this and for some reason can not ABORT! !! ..!!! I dont know who you think you Re
You could be Jakyll for all i give a royal F. Lol yeaaah
A man in Hurst, Tx lost his life trying to defend his home from a mall developer that wanted to put a multi-story parking lot next to their mall. No joke, it made the news back in the 80s or 90s. He refused to sell and the city condemned his property out from under him.
WOW😲
Source please.
That pretty much says, someone in the city was "in" with developer...
Kelo v New London
Who is the developer
My granny experienced similar. I had experience working with farmers facing loss of land under eminent domain. We knew we would ultimately loose. But we fought to near the bitter end. We got more for the properties than those that caved immediately. My Granny was the last holdout. She was nervous but she trusted me. She got 2.5 to 3 times more money than the early sellouts.
Lived in a house in downtown Jacksonville that was completely surrounded by Masey Motors. The road went right through the dealership.
My first experience with this was as a kid watching a Herbie the Love Bug movie where Keenan Wynn was trying to take an old woman’s home for a giant building.
I think she was Helen Hayes.
This happened to my great grandmother. And the developer actually built a u shaped building around her home and the family had to tear it down after she died as part of the eminent domain agreement. My great grandfather devoted his life to building many homes in that city including his own. Sad it worked out the way it did for her after he died. RIP Hilma Letourneau. I hope this case works out differently.
I live in White Bear Lake. I also signed the petition to save her home. And Cup and Cone .
@@steveb6103 thanks for that Steve. At least she was able to live her final days there. I may need to make a trip out there for some Cup and Cone! They used to let us clean up the parking lot as kids for free ice cream!
Any time a developer or even a builder comes in near you or a family member get a survey of your property. If you live in a small area where the surverer might be close to someone in authority, find a highly rated one from a different area.
Steve - greetings from Yorkshire. We’ve got a great example dating back to to 60’s-70’s, where there was a lot of building of motorways (3-lanes each direction). The case involved a sheep farmer up on the moors where the new M62 which connects the main M1 (Leeds to London ) to Manchester Airport.
The countryside up there is fit for sheep hence the farmhouse and stubborn Yorkshireman that refused to move. It went through the courts numerous times and in the end the farmer won! The result is the 3-lanes heading to to Manchester have to divert some distance to the left side of the farmhouse whilst the other 3-lanes heading to Leeds are on the right hand side.
The farmer used sit on top of his barn with his shotgun (we don’t have the 2A, pity) and a couple of border collies sheepdogs. Absolute hero that forced a major change in a motorway, plus all the extra safe access to get the sheep off the moors as winter came in. Easy to find on the net.
More power to her! It is one thing when the government takes land by eminent domain for a major public project like a road. Quite another when a developer, or even worse the government on behalf of a developer, tries to take land or force a sale. I had an old family friend that lived next a major university campus that wanted his house for development. They were able to force all of his neighbors to sell but, like this woman, he did not want to move. He was around 80 at the time as I recall. The university tried to bring out the big guns to go after him but they met their Waterloo when they took him on. Fortunately, he was fairly wealthy and could afford the multi-year fight. He continued to live there until he eventually died in his 90's.
Pfizer did this in new London CT. The city took a whole bunch of homes through eminent domain with a few holdouts taking it to the supreme court where they lost 5-4. The court ruled that eminent domain can be used for private development ie more taxes collected job creation and secondary development parks infostructure etc.. 9 years later Pfizer cancels the project and moves what people who were working in the city prior to all this and moves them to Groton CT. so the city was left with no factory, no jobs and no taxes from homes that no longer exist. the supreme court screwed this one up royally.
@@markkelleher9637 Yep. That London decision was one of the worst Supreme Court decisions EVER.
@@toddgaak422 After that travesty of justice, a bunch of Patriots got together and tried to take Chief Justice Rhenquist's house under Eminient Domain for a development to be known as the "Lost Liberty Hotel." Gubment shut them down quick.
A rock quarry did the same thing to my grandma and ran them out...my old homeplace is gone and the water contaminated
Let's spread the word on the disgusting tactics of Bailey Investment Group and what they're doing to that 93 yr old woman
First thing you do when a developer makes a lowball offer for your land, is install freakin' security cameras. Because when the dirty tricks, vandalism, theft, trespassing, snooping and pressure tactics start, you want to get them on video.
I "home based" on the Monterey Peninsula, Ca. for 25+ yrs. I saw a lot of changes and a lot of development during this time, especially along Fisherman's Wharf and Cannery Row. There used to be a large number of small houses that the cannery workers used to live in. One by one they disappeared, being replaced by monster hotels and expensive restaurants. Well, some of the land owners did not want to sell. Every year around Nov to Dec, those homes mysteriously went up in flames. THEY BURNED THEM OUT!! Nothing could be proven and no one was convicted of it. It got to where the insurance companies didn't want to insure these homes any longer. It got to be a running joke in that area that the holiday seasons were replaced by fire seasons. This was primarily during the 70's & 80's.
I retired from the Army in 2004 and moved out of the region in 2005. At that time, there was maybe 3 old homes remaining. Money sure can bring out the devil in people.
In the uk there is a old farm between the two lanes of the m62 motorway which they had to build around. Officially it was because there was a geological fault under the farm and they decided to go around, but most people believe the owner refused to sell.
Sounds like adverse possession to me. 30 years is a long time.
Time for a SLAPP lawsuit.
What the hell does a Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation have to do with any of this? Did you hear "SLAPP" in reference to lawsuits and just thought it would make you sound smart if you repeated it?
I think a adverse possession claim would b better
You've got it backwards. 'SLAPP' lawsuits are what the developer would use against the landowner (or landowners) who are complaining about changes to local zoning, building locations on property (setbacks), environmental reviews, etc. This is similar but not actually a SLAPP suit as it only involves one defendant (the old lady) and its not her complaining (at first).
I hope she gets to enjoy her property for a long time to come and that the harassment doesn’t end her life sooner than it would have naturally occurred. My siblings and I inherited some property from out parents when they died. We get harassed almost on a daily basis by people wanting to buy it, wanting to buy the houses we live in and no matter how many times we tell them no and to leave us alone they keep calling and writing. It’s irritating and stressful. But the only answer they’re going to get is NO. If we ever decide to sell it certainly won’t be to someone who is constantly calling and harassing us, and I’ve told them that but they still keep it up.
Um, how about blocking them? You can do that you know and not just on the Phone.
@@callenilsson8846 they just call from another number. I’m on the National do not call registry since it’s inception, but it does no good either.
@@margueritepeaden3445 You can file a harassments lawsuit against them and get a no-contact order against them. That costs money to do, though.
To everyone in this thread:
What the OP doesn't understand (or hasn't made clear) is that it's not the same company calling him/her, and he/she is not the only homeowner receiving a barrage of calls offering to purchase their home. Every homeowner in select areas whose property values have gone up in the last three years are receiving a barrage of calls, texts, and mail expressing an interest in buying their home/land. I wouldn't call it "harassment" as that's not what's actually happening, even if OP feels like they are being harassed.
I get a ton of calls and texts every day as well, and I have also been on the Do Not Call registry (DNCR) since its inception. It's annoying, but there's nothing that can be done about it except declining to answer calls from unrecognized numbers. (Blocking does nothing to keep new numbers from calling you.) If you must answer the call, then it's as simple as telling the person on the other end that your house is not for sale, that your number is on the DNCR, and to remove your number from their database. Then hang up. This is effective. If OP insists on engaging any more with them, then I'd question OP's propensity for and enjoyment from playing the victim.
Atlantic City, NJ. Little old lady WOULD NOT sell to some casino!!They FINALLY built around(3sides)her!
This kind of crap happens all the time. Often the city backs the developer and they will try to use/abuse eminent domain. The Institute for Justice is very helpful for this situation. I wouldn't trust the developer's survey, either.
I had to get a no soliciting sing because I kept getting harassed by door to door people. I even over the years have had to send cease and desist letters for people failing to respect that sign for tress passing.
I’ve been to Hilton Head. Are you sure that’s not 300k. Swamp land and a tear down would be worth that.
I am in Augusta, Georgia and yes, we do have two homeowners who never sold to the masters. They now live at the entrance to a parkway. One of them rents during masters week and gets a lot of money.
In Saratoga Springs, NY, while Saratoga Racecourse is open every Summer, the city is absolutely bustling. Some folks used to (and still do) rent their homes out to the "Horsey set" during track season, and enjoy nice vacations with the money they get.
This reminds me of the case of Molly Forbes, a Scottish woman in her nineties who refused to sell her farm to some unscrupulous New York property developer who wanted to build a hotel on his golf course in South Ayrshire, Scotland. Amongst other things, he cut off the water to her farm. She was made of stronger stuff than he was. He never built his hotel. I understand he's facing criminal charges in the USA at the moment.
Yes he is facing numerous legal problems.
Was his name Donald J. Trump? 🤣😂🤣
Same guy cut heat and hot water to the renters in one of his slumlord buildings in NY back in the 80's. He even moved homeless people in, to try to get the paying renters to leave so he could rebuild the building as condos.
@@JD-lx2yf In the words of the dastardly and villainous (fictional) politician, Francis Urquhart "You might think that, but I couldn't possibly comment."
Lop you mean trump and you dont understand ownership laws over there. No one unless royal assigned owns property there. Its what's called a freehold lease. Inheritors must live on property when lease holder dies. Trump was going to buy it as a freehold but he would never be true owner as he isn't from a Commonwealth nation and therefore cannot be royal assigned. If it was in interest of crown or Scotland govt thee Scottish common good laws would kick in and or true crown ownership enforced. Lol but at the time Scottish politics were very close. Wasn't her refusal to "sell" or move that stopped the hotel. Was politics as she was only holdout in area and therefore if politics not involved and a true unbiased hearing took place the fact that all the others sold out and a hotel would be an economic boon in whitecairn which at the time had serious unemployment problems . all the freeholders in area sold out as most were like her seniors with lord assugebd properties from fifty plus years ago. They all sacrificed their freehold but her in order their kids and grandchildren would have significant good long employment. Lol Trump isnt going to get nailed hard at all. Be zero prison time and otherwise at most won't be able to run in election if forced into trial beforehand which won't happen. Youre also assuming another biden win. Lolevem with all the garbage hes said and done if a snap election held today he'd win easy. June he has a three point poll lead over the general electorate and lol posed to win Cali. Ties in NY. Just two points behind Oregon. Biden might also be declared medically unfit to run by then as well. Lol do you know why hes having short term memory losses trips so much has left arm tremors slurs speech etc. He obviously had a stroke they're weakly covering up. He was coherent walked fine etc one day then next and ever since its all those indicators he had a medium level stroke or frontal lobe blood vessel aneurysm. My mom had one and my grandpa had a strike. Both acted exactly like he did afterwards but strike wise its a bad sign things are like that for him for so long now. Its been a few months. Meanwhile trump in great physical and mental health. Anyways Molly didnt have a legal inheritor so her freehold got returned to Scots gov. Michael got kicked off land last year. Lol at her claim he made her life miserable. Place was truly a pigsty. That farm had many code violation visits and numerous complaints far before trump got there her life miserable makes me sick not for her but all the neighbours who sold out expecting kids etc to have good jobs and save the area economically. Old witch! Knew she was going to die soon so took her hatred out on area neighborhood and entire generations of family. Disgusting of her and egfen you to think way y'all do. Sure it screws up developers but it also screws up economic development which would affect hundreds in area for possibly entire lifetimes. Tennessee case even worse as thats such a huge development be thousands affected if don't go through. Then all the bonds developer and contractors placed with countystatre or city would have to be returned with penalty and interest added. It salso makes any futiute development in area a very high risk as one would be well if one holdout wins why bother? Lol yep loves her house and land to point that everyone else in area suffers immensely. Ahhh the bane of America!! Individual rights out trumping the common good. Lol at you
If she owns 1.3 acres how did any of her stuff end up on the neighbors land (the shed etc). Sounds kinda shady to me. Like you said they need to get someone out there to check out the property lines, and sue them for damages to her property.
We don't really have a right to be left alone. The govt can claim eminent domain, take your shit, and then give it to a private company.
In some places, not in others.
Yes they can they do it all the time in my state of Ohio. They say is needed for something else then sell off to the company sometimes they just take it and your SOL. you spend millions im court then still lose
They did it with the Nissan Plant in Canton Mississippi, to local residents.
In addition there is just about nowhere in the US where you can get 1.3 acres that has access to utilities for a mere $30,000, especially in a place developers are eager to buy. Hilton Head is coastal S. Carolina. I can’t imagine anything going for less than 500K/acre. Just take a gander at the Zillow estimates. That developer is absolutely trying to rip off an elderly widow
In California, eminent domain cannot be used to seize property for private development
owned 40 acres that a developer wanted, they harassed me for years because they wanted my acess to the river and I owned 1/4 mil of front and they couold not go around, finally took them to court and filed a restraining order against them and the company. They bought about 20 acres and they have not developed them because of me,, that was 16 years ago..
30,000?
In Hilton Head?
That's not a lowball offer.
That's a RIPOFF offer.
She should be filing criminal harassment charges AS A MINIMUM against the officers of this "developer", as well as a counter lawsuit.
The most famous one I ever heard of was in San Francisco. Someone wanted a property which had a spectacular view of the bay, but the owner wouldn't sell. The 'Someone' bought up all the land around that property then built a two or three story high wall, blocking the view. This was in late 1800s. There were no zoning laws and the company had political pull. The afflicted property became a tourist attraction, but the owner hung on for years.
A similar thing happened in Utah and they used eminent domain to build a walmart.
Figures that the corrupt and criminally influenced Utah politicians would use eminent domain for a private corporation. The self-important and self-righteous political classes act all innocent and righteous when they sit in Church, yet in private, they are compromised, treacherous, depraved and diabolical. There is a reason that Utah has the highest child pornography and child sex trafficking (per capita) in the country.
So in other words the developer is being a bully and trying to bankrupt her with court proceedings
Bought my land 20 years ago to retire into. Now the county park system is making numerous attempts to buy my land to absorb it into the county park system.
I’ve been telling them they can take that up with my family when I die.
Like this woman, I just want to be left alone.
I was NOT surprised what she looked like after hearing who the donors were. 🤦🏻♂️
They are doing this crap here in Idaho too. One guy in my town has a large chunk of land right in the middle of town. Last offer was for 5 million. He is still refusing. The worst part is we have over 2300 homes going in. The state hydrological surveyors have already calculated that there isn't enough water for a third of those homes. The biggest problem is the mayor is behind a bunch of the homes being built. It needs to end. The other bad part is with the last housing boom, a 3 bed 1 bath house is over 2k a month to rent. These are 1950's homes with popcorn ceilings. The other part of the issue is since we are outside of Boise Idaho the prices for homes have gone up so much that my kids will never be able to afford a home here. There were bidding wars for houses here over the past few years too. Some home buyers were paying 100 to 150k over asking price. A year later and the foreclosures are starting to happen.
Look in the Mayor’s bank book.
While I’m sure there are people like this lady who due to many reasons are not interested in selling at all, I’m convinced a lot of these incidents result from failure to approach people properly, treat them fairly, and not overreact to their initial positions.
The city of Blue Ash, Ohio, had a similar problem to your hometown. Parts of Blue Ash had small houses on small lots, and people were buying two lots next to each other, tearing both houses down and building a McMansion. They tried to pass or did pass an ordinance to stop it.
A guy held out for a bigger offer than the other tenants. He literally was the last tenant in there and the developer started intimidating him too. He lived their thru jack hammers, drilling, etc. He ended yo getting a $20 million offer which was thought to be the biggest in New York or the U.S.A.
There was an exact case you mentioned in Atlantic City, NJ right after the state approved gambling. 1970's?. The developer built a casino on three sides of a lady's house. That house and casino are both now gone.
So much for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
There oughta be a law.
I KNOW! People keep trying to buy my house too! I had JUST bought the house too six years ago,
and I already started receiving cold calls wanting to buy it!
Average house cost in Hilton Head is $700,000. The property is probably worth atleast a couple hundred thousand.
Probably more depends on how many living units they can build on the property
House on it, possibly historic..probably closer to a million or more. I would drop the house on the historic registry if possible remember its been in the family since the 1870's or so...nothing like having to also fight the historical society.
@duanesamuelson2256 Depending on how strict the historic committee is, you should never put your house on or buy a house that's on a historic registry. A family friend bought a run down house that was on a historic registry. Everything he did to that house had to be "period correct" and approved by a board that had five members who nit picked every thing. It took over three years to do what should have been a nine month rehab and it cost triple what he had budgeted.
@@po2709 I'm well aware of dealing with historical societies, or as I've come to know them in multiple states "hysterical societies".
I was just thinking about how much of a pain it would be for the developer if they ever get their hands on the property. Nothing like doing a demolition and be ordered, with legal backing, that you have to do a restoration to the original using correct period construction and materials.
@@duanesamuelson2256 I understand that. I meant for the 91 year old home owner.
My Dad told me a story about something similar that happened to him over 50 years ago. He used to live in a house that was right next to a company's production plant. They were very good neighbors right up until they wanted to expand that plant. Before they even made an offer to buy the nearby properties, they started a campaign of harassment, revving trucks all night long near the homes, blocking driveways, etc. My Dad's theory was that since all the properties were rental homes, the reason for the harassment was to get the renters to leave so that the company could get a better price when buying from the owners.
The judge should take in records. bring the developer in under oath then jail the ffer for lying.
An unfortunate situation. Where I live a local company purchased a property from an older gentleman with the agreement they would allow him to live on the property until he passed away.
That's the way to do it. Better than a reverse mortgage. He had enough money to live in comfort.
That was about 40 years ago. Things have certainly changed.
They paved Paradise and put up a parking lot …
Point, Brain: When we pave over all the farmland, what are we supposed to eat?
The people who "want to be left alone" are the most dangerous when provoked.
Good for her. I hope she is able to enjoy some peace while still here.
$30,000 is nothing for any property on Hilton Head Island. $1,000,000 might be closer to a real value
I thought that the Supreme Court ruled on this a number of years ago about some shopping center that someone wanted to put up and they ruled in favor of the developer. There was a huge uproar about it.
Thinking of Kelo v. New London (CT)?
These old curmudgeons shouldn’t be able to hold up multimillion dollar developments because they want to cling to their home. 🙄
This is happening all over South Carolina right now, and really has been for decades. My family's property used to be over 2k acres. Now it's 110 acres. Eminent Domain they say. There's a Walmart shopping center on a part of it now.
It all comes down to local and state municipalities getting tax revenue.
Some places require you present a proposed development plan, that shows the shadows that will be created by the new development, to determine whether the sun exposure of the neighboring properties will be adversely effected. They will not let you block the sunlight shining on a neighboring property. (ie: Calgary, Alberta, Canada).
$30k is absolutely ridiculous. I bet the tax assessment is WAY more than that and its usually a lowball number! Fair value should be even more.
My grandfather had property on the land that o'hare airport currently sits on and when the developers needed his portion to extend o'hare he held out for as long as possible like he was the ONLY house left in the area. He finally sold it and was paid enough to but a 2 acre property and HAD a house built for him and my dad and aunt's and uncles.
There was an (in)famous case in Australia, about which a movie was made ("The Castle") but the movie did not make clear what actually happened in the real life case; just that the property owner won the case.
The government wanted some land (I think it was to expand an airport) and tried to use Eminent Domain to get the land, but the price they were allowed to offer in compensation was just the bare, undeveloped land value, not the current market value.
The owner of one house took the government and developer to court, arguing that it was unfair because he wouldn't be able to purchase another home for the money they were offering. In the end, the court agreed and ruled that the government could still seize the land under Eminent Domain, but had to pay fair market value in compensation for the land in its current state including any buildings and other developments, not merely the "bare land" value.
The last thing I heard was that the development fell through and was abandoned, although I'm not sure why. Perhaps it was the added cost of acquiring the land, or the costs and delays from the court case, or both combined which were the deciding factor (or perhaps something else of which I am not aware).
Sadly, if she wins and the developer builds around her, she will be surrounded by an HOA that will certainly attempt to finish the job of driving her off the property.
This exact same thing happened where I live in Salina, KS. The Pepsi plant bought out every bit of property in one block, with the exception of one tiny house belonging to an elderly man who would not sell. They built their plant all around his house, and it sat there for years until I assume he passed away and his heirs finally sold it to the Pepsi plant.
Been noticing that in the new studio your light seems a lot more variable, I'm assuming because you have an exterior window. @9:28 the colour goes completely flat all of a sudden.
One of my favorite examples of developers being bungholes is what the developers of the second major high rise condos in Las Vegas did. 4 38-story towers near but not on the Strip with lovely views. Then the developer shortly after finishing that, ran over and grabbed a hunk of land right next door and built the Fountainbleu Hotel + Casino. >700 foot tall hotel on the Strip (tallest building in Nevada). And they built a TWENTY TWO story parking garage that looks like it's 50 feet from two of the condos. So much for the lovely view of the Strip these floofy condos used to have. Those facing that direction below about the 24th floor now mostly have views of a parking garage, or the face of a 3000 room hotel tower, and those higher up still have significantly obstructed views of the tower looming 300 feet higher.
The condo owners sued (of course) and were told what you don't own you don't control. Basically, what did you expect to be built on a prime hunk of property on the Las Vegas Strip?
Words to remember. What you don't own you don't control.
There's something strange about this whole thing. They owned 1.9 acres of land but built their shed and installed their satellite dish right on the property line (and over it I guess)? And the developer says that the main house (the porch) is over the property line as well? Why would you build so close to the property line when you have almost 2 full acres?
not really. if the developer was correct it all depends on how far back the shed goes. talking about a 50-60 year old structure surrounded by farm land, swamp, overgrown fields.. or just two friendly neighbors. Back in the 90s.. my mom's neighbors and her had to pay for a survey to understand the property lines before mom sold, reason why is the field to our south was open pasture but over the years we were mowing a little more in to it maybe a few inches a year. (most likely my fault for always being in a hurry to go have fun). At times we were renting it for our horses, throw up a quick electric fence and let them munch of it for a couple of months, so the border moved semi-naturally. It happens.
I have my doubts that they even tried to buy it. Doubt that they would’ve done so by knocking on the door if they did. They are probably just developing the land around her and she doesn’t like it.
Property lines were just a guide line back then. They probably thought they were well within the property lines.
There is a town where every property in a block is off by 15 or so feet. it's a disaster. As now, the railroad wants to sell an old station, it's nearly impossible to use. Because all the properties in the block, lose 15 on one side, and have it on the other, except, the old train station, where it just loses 15 or so feet. The train station is impossible to sell, as you cannot step outside the building without trespassing. Adding insult to injury, is there is a Dollar General beside the train station, and they claimed their 15 foot on one side, and the other, and put up a barrior to prevent anyone from driving from the old train station to their parking lot, which is 15-ish feet over. I considered buying, but my head hurt. Every property beside the train station, jumped 15 feet over, 200 years ago. So, the train station, land, 15 foot, is under the neighbors properties. I'm not sure you can take down a barrior that's on your property, that's been there years before you bought it. At least not during the day (lol). Dollar General, if forced to use their land, to have a driveway, they'd have to buy the neighboring house. I dont know how to fix it. Oh, and there is an old road going right beside the train station on the one side. Not enough room to step out, without getting hit. insurance nightmare.
Similar situation happened to my uncle, working class neighborhood to mini mansions, the property taxes and the local government eventually pushed him out.