Installing ChromeOS Flex but Everything Goes Wrong…
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- Опубликовано: 24 мар 2022
- I tried to install ChromeOS Flex on a laptop. This is what happened...
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This is absolutely my favorite series, because it is always funny seeing how many problems could occur in the setup due to some very light changes or just because of old hardware. Great content like always Michael MJD!
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Honestly, ChromeOS Flex is ideal for machines like that Gateway or the HP Stream, which I honestly believe was designed to be a Chromebook, but a last-minute decision caused them to become Windows machines instead.
The HP Stream is an exact copy of an HP Chromebook Education Edition. The only difference is a different port layout and the OS.
As somebody who owns an HP Stream, using Cloudready was the only thing that made it usable. Even lightweight linux distributions don't compare to the speed of the UI in Chrome / Cloudready.
Windows 10 however was so bad you can type and see the input delay from the keyboard to the screen...
@@Adol48261 I once tried to convince a friend to install a light Linux distro or ChromeOS on theirs, and then Windows Update bricked it on a firmware update 🤨. HP support wanted 80% of its RRP/MSRP just to re-flash the firmware ROM - because it was conveniently one month out of warranty. I felt both vindicated that they shouldn’t have stuck with Windows for familiarity, yet also saddened and angered at HP’s gall. They were kinda considering changing from Windows, but because they didn’t do it instantly, HP’s firmware update just took the laptop away from them.
Lol the HP Stream... I know for a fact that my Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra would do a significantly better job running Windows than the HP Stream. Of course my phone was a thousand dollars so I guess that's not really a fair comparison.
@@Adol48261 fr? what lightweight distro did you try
As a beta tester for chromeOS (sadly don't still have the CR48) I approve of this firey trainwreck.
it wouldn't be an MJD video without something going wrong lol but honestly man love the videos
This is more of a Druaga1 video really. Miss that guy.
I cant believe I've been watching this since 2019. Love the content. Keep it up!
It’s really unusual that Flex was giving you that many issues. I’ve tried it on 3 “unsupported” devices (15’ 2014 MacBook Pro, Thinkpad T460, and even a Dell Optiplex 3060 MFF) and I had no issues at all. Everything worked. Anyways, great video as always!
Don't worry about it, this is Michael MJD's channel
Even if theoretically *nothing* should go wrong, something will *always* go wrong
Does chrome os flex support e8500 and opengl 1.4?
It's for show for views if it work 1st time that video could have 5 min
Bruh
@@steriftes Try for yourself, but I doubt it would work on a non UEFI device.
finnaly a new vid from micheal mjd, i've been waiting for this !
I was going to try this on some of my low spec old laptops, glad I didn't yet. Thanks for all your content, really enjoy it!
Don't. Install a real linux distro.
@@pentasteve9723 depends on what they are gonna use their laptop for
Out of his voice, I love MJD videos cuz he shares all the problems that he deals with... Makes me remember my similar experiences! Thank you MJD!
I know it's never an MJD video if everything goes smoothly... so damn, this gotta be the most MJD video I've seen so far 🤣
Weird flex, but okay.
I just installed it on my ANCIENT MSI MS-1454 and boy, the Chrome OS Flex installed at the first time with no issues at all! It's running the OS flawlessly with no problems! That's my boy!
yay new video! and its great as all videos you made.
great video as always michael! always nice to see everything go wrong 😆💖
Good thing you didn’t attempt to partition. I found that older versions of CloudReady will actually remove ALL partitions, repartition, and install, without user intervention.
Wow
This is true. I wanted to dual boot CloudReady Home Edition one time and found that it was completely impossible. I was kind of pissed off at that. Though I guess dual booting goes against the purpose of Chromebooks: simplicity and easy of management.
i love seeing "everything goes wrong" in the title.
Anyways, awesome video, Michael!
Twice a day per timezone, there are probably people freaking out and wondering how the clock in the video matches the current time.
Ooh!! New video on chrome os? Exciting!!
Love your all videos. Awesome channel
Very satisfied with this video, you earned yourself a new subscriber!
Hi Michael! Thanks for the awesome video. I hope you have a lovely weekend!
Now this is a classic MJD series ‘Everything goes wrong’ xD
When everything goes wrong, it's a mjd video. (Also if you make a shirt for merch, use this as your slogan.)
But that's cult classic of this channel and a staple, which we all and love about it.
Oh boy! A new Michael MJD video? I sure do hope nothing goes wrong in this one!
ayyyy im early! had a good experience with flex so im eager to see what problems you might have
What's nice about your old laptop is that you can install an M-SATA along with a regular 2.5" SATA SSD *AND* it has a DVD drive! Makes it a champ for booting old media.
Since you still had data you wanted to keep on that Acer laptop, I am so glad you didn’t try to do a dual boot, I am not sure if this has been fixed but if you install Chrome OS Flex, it will wipe out the whole drive (and other drives connected to the computer).
What why ?
Friday evenings are best spent watching Michael MJD content.
Don't worry Michael I enjoyed the whole process! I love watching your videos while I eat something lol
I actually installed this a few weeks ago on my macbook pro (the only model certified to work on the device list) and it was really nice to use, even from just the USB. I bet if you had a HDD on there it'd still run really well. Wifi is flaky and only picks up 2.4GHz networks but bluetooth is solid and the android phone features like wifi sharing and smart stay works just fine! I still recommend putting some form of linux on it though, if you use it more than just web apps and basic stuff. (As Linux doesn't yet work in Flex and android apps aren't supported either.)
(EDIT): There's also an issue with updating as well. Trying to download an update tells me that it's successfully updated, but restarting the macbook reverts it back to the previous update number like it never updated
That video was dated March 4th, I just purchased a chromebook yesterday 3rd July, here in Ireland, Acer Chromebook 314, 14", 4Gb Ram and 64Gb eMMC storage, Developer mode works just fine, Installed the linux Pengin container and from there. Allocated 10Gb for same and installed WPS office - full version and also the Gimp 2.10, All works fine and no reference to Cloud Ready that I can see. I have an older HP laptop from 17 years ago runnning Zorin OS and that works fine, WPS on that also - in my opinion the most MS office compatable mostly because they supply the microsoft fonts in office so calibra is the default. formating an excel sheet works properly, unlike Libre office calc again olnly because of the fonts, I know they can be installed afterward. Good video, nice to see things Not Working for a change. Not everythings just works. Keep up the good work.
That desktop background in Windows is perfect 👍
In before time when I was experimentich with ChromeOS via Brunch, Ive ran into very similar issues and the crux ended up being that my machine didn't have support for SSE2 instruction set. Nothing I could do about that obviously... Maybe the Gateway is the same way?
SSE2 was introduced with the original Pentium 4 so I doubt that's the problem here. In terms of other instruction sets, that also shouldn't be an issue. The Gateway laptop is pretty new and several of the officially completely supported models are Sandy Bridge which was released in 2011.
I love it when he thinks he could do a simple, easy install of an OS on hardware designed for it, but then the OS is against his will and everything goes wrong.
Typical MJD.
Technology is a harsh mistress.
I clicked on the notification immediately when I saw "everything goes wrong".
Thank you for recording this on my birthday
I wonder if it's possible to take that storage drive with ChromeOS Flex installed on it, and put it inside one of your other laptops to see if it will boot assuming just the installer is the problem.
it should work, yeah. the OS is set up to be hot swappable between computers - that's part of why you can run it with the USB as your storage too.
@@starfox.64 right so then it just means leaves us with the question of: Can those laptops run Chrome OS if the installer is skipped? (only way to find that out is to try it of course)
Thanks for the information bro..
Hey Michael. Have you tried swapping the SSD you installed Flex on and putting that drive in the Gateway and see if it'll actually boot into it?
I'm pretty sure that not-a-Gateway is a typical budget netbook and only has onboard flash memory, so there wouldn't be anyplace to actually connect an SSD to it.
@@NorthStarBlue1 SATA to USB? Maybe.
@@noerlol Possibly. Also possible that mirroring the SSD onto an SD card and trying that might work, since most of these cheapo netbooks just have SD card slots for storage expansion as they're basically tablet hardware stuffed into a laptop form factor. That's presuming the BIOS actually allows changing the boot order though (some of them you can't even access a BIOS at all).
Gateway pc probably use emmc, it's just as SD card in steroids.
But they're slow compared to normal ssd
Awesome video! I was trying to load it on an older Lenovo laptop that did run Windows 10 (barely), but is not specifically on the list. I was able to get even through the installation, or so it seemed, but as soon as I would reboot, it would lock in the splash screen. So yep, it did reformat the drive, but the OS doesn't work. And I can't tell you how many times I rebooted, reinstalled, lather, rinse, repeat. LOL Thankfully, it is just an old laptop that I just wanted to play with ChromeOS Flex on. Ironically, I can use it from the USB stick on this laptop, but it will not run on the laptop itself. And yes, I set the BIOS to legacy, and did all the suggestions you mentioned. Ah well...
If you update the recovery utility there's a new option -
Press cancel when it says "downloading" and you can "try again" while selecting dev channel.
It will say "developer unstable (dev)".
This gets you the latest build into the USB.
Setup screen will say ChromeOS Flex instead of Cloudready 2.0.
Doing this got the OS installed on a Chuwi tablet, where I was previously getting the same black screen you got.
so it looks like it got better in like 1 day within the first dev release. great job google.
@@partitionhlep not exactly one day.
If you don't update the utility and don't do the (dev) trick - it defaults to picking a build from a month ago. That's the one with "Cloudready 2.0" Michael installed.
@@partitionhlep it's far from perfect though. Touch screen and a couple more critical things like screen rotation and battery indicator don't work on my Chuwi Hi10 Pro - but they are making an effort for sure in Dev, even for devices that aren't on the supported hardware list.
Utility is to blame here, for needing to unlock hidden options to get the actual up to date Dev build.
"Developer unstable" should do as it says and pick up the latest unstable build, but it doesn't.
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@@igortroy yeah, makes sense. i mean, they just started this thing recently. what do we expect?
This video had me laughing way to much in a Library of all places haha 10/10 haha
Pretty cool video!. I actually was also making a video about ChromeOS Flex but faced most of the issues you encountered and just gave up, lol
Only MJD! Something has to go wrong Everytime!
Welcome folks to another great MJD YT video ROFL
You could also get an Icy-dock rail system for your 3.5 drive bay and just install various OS's on different cartridges and slide whichever OS you need into the same PC.
if your having an issue try a faster USB drive, one I used was to slow and caused it to crash, faster drive helps in some cases
That pan to the stack of laptops was perfect 😂
heya, I did some digging when CrOS Flex first came out.
It's gonna be in development for a while, since they want a Catch-22, but eventually when Flex is ready, it'll be pushed to Cloudready devices over the air automatically.
Still it's kinda a neat thing. Today I tried to install it on my IdeaPad s145 (is in certified list with minor issues) and despite problems with creating installation medium (I had to use Linux method from FAQ instead) it went smoothly. The only sad thing is it won't run android apps. Yet (I hope)
I have had a lot of issues booting this on many devices and just had it freeze. I have it running on a dell latitude e6430 perfectly but a lot of devices that I was excited to try it on just wouldn't boot without freezing. I have some windows tablets that just aren't good enough for windows and would make great "chromebooks" but it just freezes. Hopefully they can fix this issue because it would save a lot of devices that just wouldn't cut it otherwise. I would also like to note that I tried it on a toshiba from 2008 and was blown away because although I wasn't able to install it with great success, I was able to use it running on the usb drive and it worked amazing. I was able to multitask and watch 1080p youtube videos without any issues. That's impressive for a core 2 duo in 2022.
Of course it's an MJD video when "everything goes wrong"
The MJDness is strong with this one.
I installed this on 3 old Yogas and 4 old Lenovo minis that weren't on the list of supported devices and never saw this issue once. Probably just works better on business machines since it's basically designed as a thin client OS.
I really enjoy your retro computing videos, so why not try installing modern OSs ( in term of "still in development " ) that have ridiculously low hardware requirements like puppy Linux,damn small linux, kolibri os , haiku os, or others old forgotten/esoteric OSs
"Baseboard Manufacturer: GPU Company"
Someone totally didn't give a damn about that poor laptop.
I haven't seen that particular one before. Usually I see "to be filled in by OEM" for many of the fields.
So would any of the other laptops be able to boot from the SSD now that it has chrome OS installed?
Finally got it installed!!
Michael, what’s that clock? I love it!
For a while I was all about the idea of Chromebooks. Every laptop I felt like it came with the trade off that it couldn’t do ‘serious’ work like my desktops could (I didn’t invest in a desktop-replacement class laptop), so inevitably I’d end up using them to just web browse.
But man alive, ChromeOS’ user ergonomics are *so bad.* I constantly felt like I was battling the OS just to do normal stuff.
Well, chrome os was designed for exactly that, web browsing..
that's something i really hate about most modern operating systems.
they feel like they are meant to fight you and not help you.
Wrong tool for the job. ChromeOS is for browsing, not developing.
If you think other laptops couldn't do serious work, what in the flying fuck made you think a chromebook could do serious work? It's only made for web browsing and school. Can't even run the fucking block game
Well you need the bulk if you want the power. You can't expect desktop level performance with normal laptop size.
I've never seen non-managed Chrome OS before...
Right?! Lmao
I love the cow background XD
A wise man once said: it is not a MJD video if nothing goes wrong
I just want to say I still own the exact system you had from 2008, it still works very fine
Chrome OS creates multiple partitions to store different things, for example it has system partition A and B that it can fallover if one fails due to issues such as badly installed update.
CloudReady keeps the same partition layout and while it did at some point supported multiboot, it's never been a supported configuration officially.
This is a really cool video
I only heard about Chrome OS Flex a couple of days ago, but like many people have a bunch of old laptops collecting dust. The machines are mainly old Dell machines, but I experienced similar issues to those encountered in this video with all three! Such a shame, would've great to breathe some life back into some good quality hardware.
You could try installing some lightweight Linux distro instead. They seem to have way better hardware support than ChromeOS, even though ChromeOS is based on Linux. Heck, even some heavier distros run just fine if the system isn't ancient. Kubuntu runs just fine on my old laptop, which is a 2014 HP Pavilion 15 with an AMD A10 CPU.
Because ChromeOS Flex is based on some Linux kernel it wil be likely that you can switch the TTYs (virtual terminals) by pressing Alt+ArrowLeft/ArrowRight or Ctrl+Alt+ArrowLeft/ArrowRight orAlt+(one of the F*number*-keys) or Ctrl+Alt+(one of the F*number*-keys) to get a full-screen terminal (command prompt). In Android x86 that works, I don't know if it works in standard Android or ChromeOS.
Last year I installed GalliumOS (Linux) on a no-longer-supported Chromebook. Though the path to success was long and arduous (like this ChromeOS install) I eventually got it working. Persistence pays.
However, I suspect the difficulties with this install are all (laptop) hardware issues. I was able to install the CloudReady version on a custom-build 2008 desktop pc and didn't run into any problem.
Wow, I didn't know that the recovery utility includes Flex! I thought you _had_ to sign up through their website and give up a bunch of information, but I guess you don't! Thanks for showing me!
That is actually pretty cool
There's actually a way to install proper Chrome OS on unsupported hardware via linux mint. It used the asus version and android app support even worked. I did it on some older laptops when the school I worked in was running low on computers to give out.
edit: might work on the gateway hopefully? the laptops I did it with were really old and fat HP laptops from the late 2000s
this does work but updates didn't work?
that clock is sooo cool where did you get it and what is the company is it?
Hardware drops around Linus
Software breaks around Michael
I was still waiting for ChromeOS Flex ISO to try on any computer because it was based on CloudReady... (Because it was bought by Google Inc.)
It actually would be cool to see if other laptops could boot into flex after you swap the ssd from acer to them
I would expect it to somehow boot in at least some of them, but with some devices not working, like sound, BT, wifi...
I think that this Gateway laptop has eMMC memory, so that's probably not possible
@@zeaux_cxt Sadly I think you're right
ah yes
browser os.
jokes aside i fuckign love your videos keep up the good work man,,,
Glad to see I'm not the only one with stacks of old laptops.
What do you mean? He only showed _one_ stack of old laptops. I have like two stacks just in my bedroom.
That Acer is similar to my new laptop, why do they put these full HD stickers around?
The video suggestion about using an external monitor is absolutely true if you noticed you can still see the mouse over the black screen the same thing happens on my computer when I try using an Nvidia card over onboard intel video
appreciated if u mentioned the spec of this old netbook? how many GBs of RAM? CPU?
Hey, Michael.
Really appreciate your channel, many many hours spent watching your videos since 2019. Especially during the "downtime" many areas experienced over the past couple of years.
I "like" Chrome/Chromium as a simplistic as heck "operating system" for a quick and dirty experience when I need a full-screen browser and I don't want to tie up my phone. But using it for real "productivity" I don't really like it at all. I find it to be a bit of joke, really, as I've been playing with Linux Mint Cinnamon 20.3 that was just recently released and even as a complete Linux Noob I can easily get far more accomplished.
But then, Chromium isn't really about having a "productivity environment" is it?
Sorry you had such a PITA with this project, I was comiserating the whole time as I've had many instances with other types of projects myself. Glad you finally had some success!
This locking up is somewhat normal on Macs especially on OSes that try to grab and install drivers automatically but i feel there is a different issue here speciffically with this OS
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This reminds me of my first time trying Chromium, about 10 years ago. It didn't work on any of my hardware except my main pc. And my main pc can't be overwritten since I still use that.
If you want to partition, do CTRL ALT F2 then find the commands on Neverware's page.
9:26 Is this Computer the one from the windows 11 video?
You have a Cr48. Install a video decoder card. Install a newer PCI-e SSD. Install this on it. I wanna see if the original hardware can be brought back with this.
since it's technically linux, you could transfer the hdd from the acer laptop to the gateway laptop.
and see if flex will boot up on the gateway, as a potential/possible workaround?
Good job MJD, try installing Linux on the OG ps3
4:02 Thanks, I wondered why this was happening.
Also 9:22 I have the same system! It has a slightly different sticker but the same factory specs...
I had this same issue on my Acer Aspire V5-122p, let me tell you how I fixed it:
- Go to BIOS, change to UEFI mode and disable Secure Boot
- Change the boot order to boot from the USB stick (not use F12 shortcut)
- Boot your laptop and once you're on the screen, don't stop your mouse and connect the internet immediately (if you have an ethernet port on you laptop, boot it with a ethernet connected to it)
Worked for me, I hope it works for you! Nice video!
Thank you it finally work!!!
Oooh. Definitely not the OS for me. Great video though. Was laughing right with you.
Yay new video
OS Flex went stable this month and all references to Cloud Ready have been removed. I just got it running on an old Dell Lattitude.
Idk if you will see this but...do you think you can do a renewed series to the Windows 10 look like XP or maybe a Windows 11 to XP look
Nice clock where did you got it from?
8:20 ahhh i had the same laptop as that well. Oh the versatile yet clunky heavy laptop
I got it working on my Toshiba Satellite C40 netbook (30 GB SSD, 2GB RAM) like nothing on Monday. But Linux container just won't work. First I got error 9, then error 13, then error 57, error 51 and back to error 13 again (progress through different error codes, hurray!). So I tried the Chromebrew to tinker around with the Gentoo base of Chrome OS. Borked the system like 4 times. So... I saw you need to install the package "buildessential" (crew install buildessential in crosh with Dev mode on, to turn Dev mode on in Flex boot in live USB of Linux and add "cros_debug" to all *.cfg files on partition 12 of your Flex OS install) to ensure a more stable Chromebrew build. And all of a sudden it is Friday and a MJD video has landed. Damn, that week off from work just flew by... Hell, still 52 hours to go to the next working day! Must... Get... It... Working....
Evil MJD be like: "Installing %thing_name% but Everything Goes Well"
Odd.. I got a different boot logo! I think they updated the build version on the recovery utility