NATO Military Chief on How Countries Can Prepare for War, a Second Trump Presidency and More | WSJ
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
- Adm. Rob Bauer, NATO's top military officer, discusses what business and government can do to defend themselves, what he sees as the need for increased defense spending and how a second Trump presidency could affect the alliance.
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I am 60, a retired LtCol of the Turkish Army. It is my first time hearing Adm. Bauer. He is incredibly elaborate, rational and convincing. Thank you sir for such straigthforward talk.
i don't want make fun of you, but define Rational
@@bestvideos4ever1 Rational means having reason or understanding relating to, based on, or agreeable to reason. you can look it up in the dictionary.
Exactly 💯Abicaksiz
Well said and I agree
He is an elitist. He is going to get us all killed.
Dutchies are always direct and to the point...
shocking of your above "soft racism comment" for generalizing 17 million people. All matured people knows that every place has smart and dumbs, good and evils...
@@lmvcnn Dutches are as good or bad as any other nation, no Difference !!!
Bauer is delusional, but he's well paid for it.
@@lmvcnn oh just... Sod off. I'm Dutch and the culture generally permits more abrasive comments than others. No racism involved. The Dutch culture allows comments to people you have no relationship with. This is different from other countries.
this man needs war to get more stripes. Dangerous figure.
Dude looks like he is straight out of red alert cutscenes
Actually, Bauer is straight out of the world of Dr Strangelove. In an interview the other day (in a leading Stockholm morning paper) he called for Europe to switch to an overall war economy and hedge everything on an attempt to scale up military production to help Ukraine break Russia /a completely futile aspiration).
@@louise_rose we'll see
@@louise_rose How is that Dr. Strangelove?
And no, do not misrepresent what was said, which is that stockpiles should be prioritized for Ukraine. Nothing about "breaking" Russia in the territorial sense you dishonestly imply.
@@louise_roseAnd you went from a disney's story. EU peace means american control, but now the usa are tired. So or we defende ourself or prepare to a bad final, not now, not tomorrow but very soon.
@@cesaresperelli2817 That's just BS. Europe can very well do without propping up Ukraine It's the
American elites that can't stomach losing control of Ukraine
9:35 lets be clear here, it was never western consumers that pushed western industries to build factories in the east or create joint ventures to share tech with China. It were corporations that wanted to get in on those jucy eastern markets and by that sold of the technological lead the only advantage we had. Our greed for profits and for what? So we could have a washing machine a few bugs cheaper but also with a tenth of the former life expectancy. Meanwhile looking at the development of wages in comparison to interest rates allowing heirs to live of inheritances without ever producing anything usefull ... all that could have been obvious to backfire and it was done anyways. Neoliberalism has eaten itself and it just hasn't realised yet that it is already dead.
absolutely correct .... it is the greed which was the driving force ..... the madness to get more and more at a cheaper price, ..... now China has the biggest army in the world they produce their own nukes and they want to dominate and control everyone, Tibet, India, Bhutan, Hong Kong China sea, Philippians, Taiwan, ..... and when in 2008 Greece was in bankruptcy, they bought their infrastructure, ports and transport with that they control all movement, and in Africa they do the same ....
It's not either or, it's both.
you did ask for this, any chance of alternative economic systems like mutalism or syndicalism were lumped into le ebil GOMMUNISM and demonized by the average american until neoliberalism is the last that remains, so now neoliberalism is what happens, so you exactly have yourselves to blame
@@NeostormXLMAX Who is you? The average worker with no political power?
@@toddharig8142the average american has a good amount of political power they just don’t use it
This was a terrifyingly refreshing reminder and a wonderful listen, much respect for RB doing this and being so open. 🙃
I am a total fan of this man, and have been for many years.
he is straightforward and goes straight to the heart of the matter.
As a war veteran, I know exactly what he is talking about when he says we.🎉
This man had no clue, what Putin prepared las 25 yeras to destroy all enemies.
@@PavolFilek Putin can't even make sure there is fuel and heat 10 km outside Moscow, 😂😂
He is a war bond salesman and you're sucking it up perfectly for him.
@@HPF-JensenAnd you're the one who's is "whistling in the dark!"
@@patrickganly5206 yes and i like it
It is very reassuring to us Americans that you have someone like Admiral Bauer in Europe, he for reason holds a high office within NATO. You can tell he has to sell and persuade this idea of war to continental Europeans which see it with disdain instead of an eventuality. Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum.
Hi,
American daughter!
When people from Eastern and Central Europe were saying exactly the same things for more than a decade we were called “grumpy” “pessimistic” and “Russophobic” Don’t believe me? Read old issues of New Eastern Europe journal just to mention one example.
True. This were the times when cheap oil and gas came from Russia in the western countries. We can very easy see how the narrative changes, when western countries are at risk or lose money or cheap resources.
Our Western European mistake was that we assumed Russia could go through the same path that all the other countries "behind the iron curtain" went through. We didn't realise that Russia is a completely different beast. I'm also guilty of that. Russia was never able to really make the transition to a stable democracy, and they always kept the "We are the superior Russians" mentality. At least we can claim that we did give them a chance, by integrating their economy into ours. But looking backwards, that was a mistake indeed. 2014 should have triggered a lot more action than it did.
We were coled " Good looking" to. 😂🎉
zzz zzz zzz
@RPGPlayground
Democracies don't stage coups in Ukraine and then trick Ukraine into fighting a proxy war for the NATO Mafia. NATO thought they could punish Russia for not kissing the ring. Tough luck.
Robert Peter Bauer is a lieutenant-admiral in the Royal Netherlands Navy, currently serving as the Chair of the NATO Military Committee since June 2021, after succeeding Air Chief Marshal Sir Stuart Peach.
Bauer previously served as the Chief of Defence (Dutch: Commandant der Strijdkrachten) from October 2017 to April 2021, and as the Vice Chief of Defence of the Armed forces of the Netherlands from 1 September 2015 to 13 July 2017. Bauer was also involved in anti-terrorist and anti-piracy operations in the Mediterranean Sea, and in the Horn of Africa.
Very clear. It certainly brings peace of mind to see our military command handling and considering over vital defense issues.
empty words and pure B.S from him
@@beatxassassin6439 Ok Vladimir
Wow, writes great speeches but also speaks inspiringly & insightfully off the cuff.
Chill out lol
While he does nothing.
@@bo45 great quip
One million reservists out of a population if 5.5 million (as said at 19:50). Is this related to this country (Finland) being for the fifth consecutive year the happiest nation on earth in 2024? Maybe security makes Finns happy.
Maybe being happy because your government functions correctly, makes you want to protect it
@@alexdevcamp Or maybe being happy because your government incites hatred against a neighbouring country and it's people!
@@alexdevcamp Or maybe being happy because your government incites hatred against its neighbouring country with no rational reason to do so!
@@alexdevcamp @alexdevcamp Or maybe being happy because your government incites hatred against its neighbouring country with no rational reason too do so!
@alexdevcamp Or maybe being happy because your government incites hatred against its neighbouring country with no rational reason too do so!
This is so good! I wish the public in all European countries could see this. It should be mandatory.
we do, dont worry!
Italy here, I watch the news every day and I hadn't seen this before.
Wow, this was a good one! The end is really for us to think about, from "me" to "we"....
Absolutly. The difference between civilized humans and animals, is the capacity to help others to heal. If an animal breaks a leg, it's done, it will possible die. A human, is taken care until it heals. We can only survive a war if we stop this nonsense of me, me, me and my rights. Ubuntu is the way, "what is good for all, is good for me"
Lol the guy talking to CEOs as if they were children. Amaizing.
Because they pretty much are lol
Enjoyed listening to Adm. Bauer speak. Great discussion!
at the end comes the wake-up message ..... down to the point, even if we do not want to hear it, if there is not a combined understanding and intention, there want be a change to get peace and security
What a brilliant minded articulated analisis this highly experienced high rank militar is showing . A real gift to hear .
Please talk more about supply lines.
This Admiral really has a great grasp on the big picture and talks very intelligently in a clear and precise manner. A very interesting presentation 😊. Thank you.
Brilliant speaker. Right on the nose.
Much respect to the Admiral and our allies in NATO. If I could lend a phrase, “United We Stand, Divided We Fall”.
-❤️🫡 from 🇺🇸
💯% true 💙🇺🇲💙
In my time , during Vietnam it was said , "What if they had a war and nobody came " . " War is a Racket" a book by Maj Gen Smedley Butler USMC two time Medal of Honor times two . You 'all must be invested in war . Any of you ever wear the uniform ?
Enlist yourself WARPIG
Yeh, good luck with that one..
Why ? What has he done to earn such admiration ?
very very well spoken
empty words and pure B.S from him
Finally someone who knows, speak out
When people from Eastern and Central Europe were saying exactly the same things for more than a decade we were called “grumpy” “pessimistic” and “Russophobic”
@@BlazejMarczakright?! I’m from Eastern Europe and so many of us were saying these things, but we were dismissed as hateful, uneducated and yes - Russophobic. 🤷♀️
He knows nothing. Just empty words and pure B.S from him
@@beatxassassin6439 Care to elaborate? Dont think you can.
@Redcrown1979 NATO enlargement is CONTRARY to peace. Shoud we try with Chinese and Russian military alliance in Cuba ? In Mexico? Have you ever tried to think that the RF also need their own security 🤔....?
I like calm people. Word of advice, never get a calm man mad!
He has no power. In ww2 look what germany did to these tiny euro nations
@@AckzaTV You have to ask yourself if the circumstances are similar before making such a statement...
Things have change a lot in the last 80 years..a small state or a small force can do great damage to a much bigger one!
Analyze the current Ukraine situation against Russia or even the Hothis against ships patrol.
War is dirty business and now it's dirtier than ever so let's just do our best not to go there!
I think the Admiral is the best reasoned, thoughtful voice coming out of Europe today.
Which is the best one coming from America?
Admiral did nothing but report fake news.
Dude what are you talking about, there are so many. You just have to look outside old europe. Almost everybody in the nordics and central/eastern europe talk like this, senior military or politicians. We get it. The convenience junkies, deniers and fools are from France, Germany, Spain, Italy,, the US and the UK etc.
Typical general who wants more money for his war
@@jaja3359 Ben Hodges
To be efficient and respond to peak demand signals is indeed a tall order.
One of the best interviews of a Western Military leader. Bravo!
You think he could supervise the deportation of a load of malaysian dissidents to cape town
Thank you and more we
@30:00 His analogy about "We" Vs "Me" I thought was really insightful. However it's not going to happen in the UK anytime soon. Patriotic and healthy nationalism has purposely been destroyed since the late 90s. Whether it's stupid accusations about racism or calling everyone who wants to protect their homeland as a white Supremacist. Even our own Conservative government mock the very people who would be first to enlist for a war to protect us. Also the elephant in the room there's huge lack of trust from the new millions and millions of migrants every year we receive, many outwardly want us to lose any future war. The war would be at home first before it's abroad with Iran, China or whoever. It would take radical change over several decades to bring back the "We".
It makes our military family very scared for the future.
All these liberal civil movements totally destroyed the nationalism. In the US and outside the US, young generation is increasingly liberal and progressive. Nationalism is white supremacy and racism. defense industry is warmonger. And many immigrants in the west are from Middle East, Asia and South America. They are from the 3rd world countries. They are, in their nature, against war with other developing countries like the war in Middle East. They hold a quite different view of world from the native population. This makes the society very divisive. I don’t think the many individual “me” will become a collective “we”. Because “we” have no common ground!
Rob Baeur is right on the money, everybody needs to hear this message or face the consequences, this man has a very high position in NATO Military Command, and knows what he is talking about, he is not the chief of Mil Committee for nothing. Best talk on a Wests poor readiness for total war, the Russians and Chinese have no such problems. We could go under in a stouch against the autocrats. All need to wake up and make urgent changes. Thank you Admiral Bauer.
We are all going to face the consequences of our leaders.
Stoush
@@phil20_20didn’t the collective we vote for them?
Russians definitely didn't seem prepared for total war... they are struggling to take a country at their border, a country deprived of a NAVY, with a very limited and outdated air force, and whose army was mostly composed of old soviet equipment.
China hasn't been at war for decades, they're able to produce lots of things and are way more technologically advanced than Russia... but I highly doubt things would go smoothly if they had to go to war against a near peer adversary tomorrow.
@@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1ncleast-worst candidate, is the order of the day...beta-tested in oz (like a lot of things, I suspect...lockdowns, and the attendant amendments to statutes, like planning permission by-pass, lock downs on borders?)..
Wow , and eye opening, thanks
This is one of the best interviews I have heard since the start of the full scale war in Ukraine. He's spot on, time and again. Thank you.
He doesn't have a clue, zero.
So why don't you apply for his job, @@mitrovdan?
@@smallpeople172 no, no, let him do it he's on the right track. Cranking up the supply of shells is going as planned, right? Where would we get that idea from that Russia is out producing the entire western world (shells) by a margin of 6 to 7 against 1?
Their economy is also in disarray, the Dutch aren't quietly buying russian gas and there certainly aren't any LNG tankers coming into the Rotterdam harbour, definitely not in Spain, France, GB etc etc. As far as I know the Canadians haven't eased the restrictions on russian aluminium for their aviation industry, 😉. Or are you suggesting that the western plan to drag Russia into a Ukrainian quagmire is working? Seems to me the other way around - could have fooled me.
@@mitrovdan Get used to it buddy. Relations with Russia are not going back to normal.
This talk is about self-reflection on the mistake of letting our guards down too low around our former & once again current enemies. It's up for debate if they ever were "friends" at all. 30 years isn't very long.
He has every clue, it is you who seems not to.
Yes. So the plan's not working. He talks about this, how our enemies use resources like aluminum & gas against us. To make us fund them. To hit us in our pockets. How we walked right into that. How Russia is producing this & that. Do you have a better one? You think you know how to simply turn around 30 years of mistakes?
Or do you just want the prices to go back down on the international commodities our enemies use against us? They're not. Well, not unless we be good & roll over when they tell us to. Until we're their slaves.
You want to be a good boy & roll over don't you? Oh yes Mr. Putin here's Ukraine pleeeeease make the gas prices go back to normal!
Oh yes Mr. Hitler here's the Sudetenland you asked for and so WW2 never happened & that's why we celebrate Neville Chamberlain day!
Or am I wrong?
What *do* you want?
Sir, your uniform is so honor and incredible
Probably Made in China, Atleast the buttons
Much respect from Texas. God Save The Free World
Brilliant talk. My new barometer for looking at the world in the macro level.
empty words and pure B.S from him
@@beatxassassin6439 I really despair reading the pro-war comments here…..
@@SS-qk8oc Neville.Chameberlain or Winston Churchill?
I found this talk articulate, honest and refreshing. Thank you Admiral Rob Bauer! I hope more people realise how important Nato is to Democratic nations.
Soon NATO will be past
Ukraine is democracy now?😂
How is it that Rand corporation members have so much influence over NATO?
That's the only explanation I can come up with after reading the Rand corporation report 2019 on Ukraine.
Why has reality become so similar to the report?
Lord Ismay, the first Secretary General of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), reportedly observed that the purpose of the Alliance was to keep the Americans in Europe, the Russians out, and the Germans down.
Respect
Well said
This guy seems pretty cool he needs to be in politics
This
He is in politics> General or admiral in Western militaries is actually a political function.
NO. He is an expert and we need him where he is.
He is, listen to the dribble.
Soldiers cant be politicians
Great conversation! Should be a wake up call to many folks living in the past and woefully unprepared for the challenges coming our way in the future.
It is now.
That's complete nonesence. It is we who live in the past, who remember the past, and who have been warning our politicians about the need to strengthen our military, bring back conscription ( of some type) etc. We remember the Cold War, the frightening times and wars through the 60's, 70's , 80's and 90's so we are under no illusion about the situation we are in.
Excellent interview, great POV
Get rid of that smug interviewer
16:00 fantastic to mention about ABP, that’s really a great example! Love it Rob.
9:37 I couldn't agree more. The world is a dangerous place. It always has been.
The world is dangerous because countries don't oblige by international law thinking that might makes right, for a long time it did. These countries were warned that there would come a day that this policy would blow up in their face, guess what, it did, some started crying wolf. As a statesman recently said, "the vampire bal is coming to an end". This whole BS around Ukraine didn't have to happen, as with Serbia, Lybia, Syria, Afghanistan and so on, and so on. Now a statesman reacts to those provocations and all of a sudden some remember that the world is a dangerous place with dangerous countries.
What about this question first.. What have WE done incorrectly during the same era 2008, 2014, 2019, etc.? When discussing such a heavy topic wouldn’t it be wiser to discuss how “it takes two?”
Thanks for the information 😊
Bot.
Very interesting discussion. He was a great speaker and made a lot of good points.
Our politicians should be ramming this message home every single day.
The politicians were the problem. Chancellors like Schroeder and Merkel mollycoddled Putin and undermined Europe's security for Russian energy. Putin corrupted both the SDP and CDU, Germany's two major parties.
Voters ram the politicians more than the other way around, so attention to news media and education are necessary for an informed electorate.
@@richarddietzen3137just tell me all the objective facts i will make my own conclusions on most matters
why
promoting war? They lost me as soon as they said the war is still happening. We dont want war with Russia, they don't like Putin, he does the opposite of their desire.
Why the heck is the interviewer constantly looking away to another side of the room during a conversation/interview? -.-
He most probably wants to act as a 'bridge' between the public & the interviewee
@@artiefakt4402yeah, you act like that by interviewing and paying attention, not looking around because someone in the audience moved.
@@AmYiChai The interviewee also looks at the audience while he speaks, and he does it quite a lot... if you don't want interaction, just put everybody in front of a screen.
@@artiefakt4402 except he wasnt doing 'that'. Pay more attention to the interviewer when he looks away, where he then looks, for how long. He even would do that to break eyecontact with the interviewee. Thats just not right.
Yeah you're right I have noticed that
Thank you for this important talk. Happy to learn.
wat een goede uitleg en wat een duidelijke spreker Rob Bauer.
One of the things I'm wondering is did the russians really completely shut the EU off of their cheap gas ?
If so then why the spec op to blow up their pipeline ?
If they truly cut off the supply then there is no need to blow up the supply lines right ?
Admiral states facts that are half truths
Seems like the Ukrainians blew up NS... likely for more a couple reasons :
- Hurt Russia's ability to earn money and pay for its war
- Preventing EU countries to take the easy route and go back to a cheap Russian gas in the future
The western imposed sanctions are the cause of gas supplies being cut off / diverted. Considering the amount of sanctions imposed on Russia by the west, it would seem only natural for Russia to respond in kind, but this doesn’t appear to be happening.
It's possible Russia blew it because they have contractual obligations to deliver given amounts of gas. This way they're off the hook.
Maybe the West did it? We can only speculate. No intelligence has been made public.
Nato blew piplekime its obvious
How about “How countries can prepare for peace?”
That’s an admirable ambition. But, when the other guy is a predator, best be ready.
Preparing for war means preparing for peace.
Didn't we say that before Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan? Was the Vietnam domino theory correct? Is the end of the world happening because the Taliban took over Afghanistan? Russia won't invade NATO...unless we continue to mess around with it
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Honestly it's getting better and I am hopeful that we all can do our part to change while including everyone in the world.
Thank you for this clear talk about the situation.
We not me.
Great perspectives!
It is more unethical to refuse to support defense industry because a pension fund is a security fund. What security will anyone have via complete capitulation?
So true ...
Imagine listening to an arms industry salesman
9:24 The higher cost of products will be offset by more jobs and consequently greater purchasing power, which is healthy for internal demand.
How is it possible that he doesn’t know the casualties of Ukraine doesn’t know the number that’s strange????? He supplying Ukraine with weapons and strategy for more than two years now!!! yet doesn’t know how many died at least on his side!!!!
That’s the number agreed on lol
@@renesalinas8621Those numbers are Ukraine 's secret. Not even informed to NATO.
Ok. Let's invite Col. Douglas McGregor and Gen. Kujat for some nuance.
Why listen to people who support russia?
@@opus3989 You are mistaken, I'm afraid. These men are ex high-ranking NATO officers that support their own respective fatherlands, the USA and Germany.
5:58 The saying "war is war business is business" comes to mind.
Wow! I clicked on a video and got a steak dinner of ideas! I feel relieved and chastened at the same time.
The Philippines has the manpower and facilities for BMW. Come here.
It's very noble for European countries to avoid investing in defense for moral reasons. Fear not, though: Russia will pick up the slack. China will assist them.
enlightening, very very
A: “So, how would you like to die for your country?
B: “Sounds pretty cool, how many respawns do I get?”
You can imagine why he is the Head of military of the strongest Treaty in the world. He is vast and diverse in knowledge.
I do not see that. Compared with previous Nato Generals, he is simply echoing, what he is told to by the hegimonial power...
You are a Ukranian bot. Or just easily impressed….
Europe needs to pull its weight
the admiral make so many good points. gives me a lot to think about.
think hard, buddy.
True stuff
How on earth does one live with investing in death? Mankind has lost it!
"If you want peace, prepare for war" - Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus (Roman writer ≈ 4th century AD) Most European countries live under a dangerous illusion. It is time wake up.
Everything you’ve ever eaten in your entire life had to die
Are you equating people , humans to animals???!!!
@@user-gd8du9zq3mhumans are vertebrae mammals. We are nothing but animals.
You don't invest in death you invest in defense. You invest in strength. In protection from death.
"WE have to" the war breaks out and they are right in their bunkers and "WE" die... GJ
It was always so, from prehistoric times. The leaders, who start wars are feasting in their palaces, while simple people are being killed, raped and enslaved. You dont't like it, start working on your own empire 😅
I would love to do something for my country, but the government makes it very hard to own a home to take care of my family and healthcare is expensive.
The billionaires who control the government*
Thank you for the clear, honest and inspiring view about NATO and Europe Admiral Bauer!🙏🏻👍🏻
The general is lying about Gasprom. Up to this day gasprom is fulfilling their contracts, except for pipelines which where blown up by ...
He should know that the Gas suply limits were imposed by the US on Europe by the sanctions
Gasprom shut down gas deliveries to Germany in 2022 months before the pipelines were blown off.
Great speech
Aren’t you bright.
Very productive
Excellent interview, fascinating discussion 👍
Hulde Admiraal Bauer! Wat een fantastisch sterk betoog!
Amazing testimony
As he describes it, NATO also suffers from the Fallacy of the Commons.
Honestly, I think one of the biggest things we could do is have comprehensive free trade agreement between US and EU.
This kind of economic alliance would create massive gravity in sense that more countries and people would align themselves to those rules that are established.
It would probably need a lot of compromise, which people would not like, but I think in the end it would be worth it.
How about no wars ever thought of that
That would be nice. There is a difference between an offensive posture & a defensive posture. Pretending there are no bad people wishing others harm is foolish. Better to be prepared than not.
If you want the "me" in the "we," earn me.
Ask not what your country can do for you; Ask what you can do for your country...
When the "we" get going and leave the "me" behind, don't cry
The Russians successfully made us think that our military industrial complex was a problem for us. The question is, where is our military industrial complex when we need it?
In ukraine right now
Hey buddy, why don’t you enlist?
This is the most incisive and clear message I have seen about the current situation. Remember the old adage “visit Russia, before Russia visits you!”
We do not need your rules, we have our rules and this is peace!
you would accept peace living within "new territories" of Russia or China? Maybe in colonial part of North Corea?
@@janissquirell5072 I would not accept but this is not the case now and neither Russia nor China strive to occupy Europe, for sure. I want peace!
@@user-zv3lc1un1q so, if someone is waging war, you should fight back to get your peaceful life back to you or shall you surrender and accept to be told how to live under the rule of agressor?
@@janissquirell5072 before the war started tha russian population had bein attacked and insulted permanently, the NATO has expanded to the russian border despite the promis given by the unification of Germany, the peace offer of Russia had been rejected, the north stream pipeline has been blasted. Absolutely clear that the warmongers want to destroy Russia in order to seize their land and assets. I am not Russian but they left without choice but deffend their land and people. If you have another opinion it is ok for me, best wishes. Josef.
May i ask where is your confidence coming from? At least russia said many times openly about their plans, you just need to listen to @user-zv3lc1un1q
They are removing my comments that had my case info as well as information on a robbery downtown LA
Wow , my Grandmother's maiden name was Bauer. Hope we're related. ❤✔💯
Great show
Call article 3! Every nation has to be able to defend itself. We see Russia waging war toward Europe, we hear RU verbalize that it is intending to attack Poland, Finland, Britain, etccc….there should be zero question as to IF nato can get into the war. It’s settled
13:19 That is a GROSSLY forced analogy!! Not all international & political conflicts need be reduced to WAR... that is just a grossly negligent thing to say about it... far to simple minded approach there....
Yes, concur. It’s high time mankind had a serious think.
Then Gods Word Was Revealed
Ok we pay 2% for war but we need to 2% for peace too. What is the point of war if the institutions for peace are weakened
smart guy
Do you think the official of NATO is idiot or stupid?
@@SorminaErianaWell, a lot of people in the US think Nato officials are just as silly as American politicians. Thats how uneducated they are on geopolitical matters and who the representatives from NATO are.
Why didnt you think about the risks while expanding the Nato into the Ukraine?
What does that mean exactly? Are you saying counties can’t join NATO/EU if they want to? What you’re saying doesn’t make any sense🤷🏼♂️
@@sqweege6432 You haven't read or listened to John Mearsheimer's lectures?
Basic matter of realpolitics that the earlier Western foreign policy elite understood. That's why there were those gentlemen's agreements to not expand NATO, that's why John F. Kennedy was ready to break international law and start a war if USSR brought nukes to Cuba, but took the nukes out of Turkey since USSR agreed to not nuclearly arm Cuba... Realpolitics is the reason why AFTER Russia's invasion USA and Australia screamed about "redlines" when Solomon Islands and China were about to start talks about a military deal, alliance and a possible base in the islands - despite Western countries crying out at Russia wanting redlines in Ukraine. Heck, the entire United Nations as an organization is shaped heavily by realpolitics, because the winners of WW2 would not accept signing a lot of those agreements without unfair veto powers. Also the definition of a genocide is so bad for the protection of all the people as all the powers who negotiated the definition had huge lakes of blood at their hands and didn't want to carry responsibility for their actions. Realpolitics is the reason why our system of international law is so flawed and constantly violated in order to further advance the interests of powerful states and alliances by those who have power, in order to gain more security in a world without a greater (divine) power upkeeping those laws consistently.
So I'd guess he is pointing out the Western hypocrisy and double-standards when it comes to Russia's realpolitic based interests, while the West is constantly engaged in those same kind of actions. Funny thing is, the West has already shown a lot of signs of not caring about UN, humanrights or any other restrictions:
There's absolutely no bat of an eye in our politicians eyes when we call for a Russian warcriminal, Putin, to be arrested and judged in Hague while our own warcriminals walk free and enjoy highstatus in our societies. There is no time paid on how Russia uses USA's justification for an illegal invasion of Iraq for their own illegal invasion of Ukraine. There's this perverted talk of "Rules based international order" while we in the West keep breaking UN laws decades, threaten UN institutions and their representatives if they dare issue a warrant on Netanyahu and we are actively supporting the most documented and broadcasted live genocide in human history.
So... According to international law Ukraine has the right to join any alliance they want to join. They are an independent country. But also according to international law Mexico, Cuba, Haiti and so on all have the right to house Russian, Chinese or even North-Korean nukes pointed at Washington and Pentagon. Not one of those enemies of the West or those American neighbors are asking for these things though, because of understanding of realpolitics and that that USA and it's allies would destroy them if they attempted to do such an alliance. However, the West provoking the war in Ukraine with NATO expansion is just another push, a boost to the unraveling of our international system of law, rights and restraints... Possibly a critical one. One which the West has pushed because of the economic rise of China and the BRICS countries. A very stupid and evil thing to do from the West, but I do think that we are very likely living in our end of Empire moment and that makes the West more dangerous (and stupid) than ever.
Personally I just wish that the Western realists would have remained in power after the Cold War, because humanity does deserve better than this.