NEOM, The Line: BUSTED!!
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Every single one of the 3D renders of this project uses featureless white boxes to represent the structure of the place, because if they showed a realistic textured view of what they're planning, the result would resemble Kowloon. And considering that this is Saudi Arabia, for every megarich SOB who resides there, you can expect a staff of slaves and servants as well. And notice that the renderings show no airports, no roads in or out. No escape. Even if they somehow managed to build this place, it's quickly going to become a hell on Earth of poverty, misery and human rights abuses, for anyone inside.
Yes but at least after everyone is dead we can just fill it in with sand built in grave yard convenient.
Those "featureless white boxes"; we call that material "renderite".
Maybe they should build it underwater instead and call it "Rapture"
Very well pointed out. I also got massive Kowloon-vibes seeing the proposition.
@@regulate.artificer_g23.mdctlsk Thank you for the chuckle.
Man, RIP Thunderfoot. Can’t believe he choked on his water so hard he accidentally stabbed himself in the chest 32 times before tying concrete blocks to his feet and jumping into a lake.
Real pity how it happened.
I still don't understand why he went to the Saudi embassy, it's like he wanted it to happen.
@@AmKhaibitu probbably he entered purely voluntarily through a special black van or bag portal.
@@JanicekTrnecka exactly
Inshallah 😈
@@AmKhaibitu He needed to finalize his divorce.
It’s crazy how humans seem to be CRAVING a hellscape dystopia so hard.
Eh, not humans, totalitarian governments for sure have a vested interest. I would not live there even with all expenses paid.
@@marlonbryanmunoznunez3179 well, no cause over the 2.5 year covid nonsense, regular people were demanding to lock everything down and lose their freedom to even go outside. So no. 😞 it’s not just totalitarian government, it’s humans.
ever since I first heard of this, I was trying to remember what was the name...
I could have sworn that there was a webcomic or webtoon that was postapocalyptic or dystopian sci-fi that had a city kinda like this and I couldn't remember what was its name...
Only the rich ones. Because a dystopia for us is a utopia for them.
Covid-19 proved that thesis.
"Protecting the world's most stunning nature" - shows empty desert.
Every time they mention 'AI' off the cuff, I started laughing uncontrollably. They should've gone one step further and start throwing 'Blockchains' in there somehow.
They missed "disruptive". I was really looking forward to that.
Why don't they go hog wild and say they will make the whole thing float in the sky with anti-gravity thrusters?
'Blockchain' has finally started to smell of fraud. So, it would have been appropriate, but still a smart choice to leave it out.
But it is a chain of blocks.. Or bollocks, whichever.
The buildings will be made using the latest state of the art blockchains.
How do you think they'd fit all the stuff so neatly together? A Tetristographic Grid? Don't make me laugh!
There's nothing that says "harmony with nature" quite like a straight line through hills and canyons.
I was thinking the exact same thing 😅
Highways are already a problem for animal migration. But luckily there are no animals in the desert, right?
Or a straight line where there pretty much is no nature, just sand.
"Harmony with nature" is basically not building anything there.
Might as well call it the water wall of Exodus
The Line has now been reduced down to 2.4km long and approx 300,00 residents and I imagine actually far less than that. Be nice to watch an update to this.
It's the dot.
But "Saudi Arabia's economy minister rejected recent reports that the kingdom's $1.5 trillion NEOM megaproject ... is scaling back some of its plans."
Smh
I can kill it with a few words. “Where the trash go?”
Outside, naturally. So the line eventually gets a second layer of walls
Two words: "poop trucks"
Remember, they said “100% Recycling!” That means extracting water not just from pee but also from poop- then recycling the poop and other garbage inside the building. Should be a hoot.
Its like a giant poop trench, that the foundations😂
you dump it off the top to the outside
I love how they start by removing cars, and then imediatly add flying taxis, because we all know those are more economic right?
And possible no less
They might as well have promised ufos, they use less gravity!
...and safer, and take up less room, and have somewhere to park... Oh, nearly forgot - actually a "thing"! 😂
at least they'll stay off the solar roadways :D
@@chrisantoniou4366 They don't park; they fly 24/7 because there is enough oil, right?
right?
As a European I'm delighted by the idea, that I could live in an advanced AI driven city, while having the possibility to attend a good old Saud Arabian style public execution.
Except for the AI ours is headed that way many states are making it illeagle to talk about the slave trade.
And wherever on the line you live, there will be an execution site within walking distance.
Well also in Saudi Arabia, we have near non-existent crime and substance abuse unlike in your Europe.
@@FemtoSecn Yeah because those are monopolized by your government
Imagine the AI starting to decide things based on the info it gets fed. All the times an AI turns racist or sexist. Even while I do truly love the idea of AI's. I'm afraid I will die before an actual AI will ever be build. Until then we have to suffer people saying ''AI'' when in fact they are just talking about simple programs.
Also. As a person that grew up in the Nederlands. It isn't difficult to imagine a city without cars. Due to the amount of public transport we have. Even while we complain about it. You can go about anywhere.
Engineer: "You can't design a city in the shape of a line!"
King Salman: "Hyperloop go Neommmmm"
This is entirely MBS idea. King has no clue about it - he is barely alive.
This magical city will run on magical technology. Got it.
I actually laughed out loud at the "done by 2025". Hilarious.
To be built by Elon Mufassu.
Oh that date has already shifted. It will be 2030 now... shades of Elon Musk or what?
@@CatholicSatan don't worry, it'll be 2050 by next month
Given the World Trade Center tower took 8 years alone, this would take 50+ years at least.
That's a typo, it sould read "dumb by 2025"... 😂😂😂
you know its a bad idea when a hyper loop sounds more plausible
well said! 😃
It's not that it's more plausible. It's that that the hyperloop is literally an essential part of this, along with 100 more non existing technologies.
hauhauhuahuahuahuahuahuahuahuhaa, man... huahauhauhauhuahuahuaha
@@Oromie9 A Hyperloop would be totally impractical in a city of any size or shape. To travel at a speed so that you could go from one end to the other (how many people would need to do that if NEOM was properly planned anyway?) in 20 minutes WILL require a Hyperloop, but an "ordinary" fast train travelling at 330 kph could do it in about 35 minutes. Why would you go to the time, trouble and expense, even if the Hyperloop was possible, just to save a hypothetical 15 minutes? Hyperloops, if they could be made to work, are only any good going from one city to another.
@@chrisantoniou4366 and what about the People that want to travel from half the city to the end or 3/4 to end. Would the hyperloop stop for them🤣🤣
Unsurprisingly, this aged like fine wine! I demand a follow-up video! 😍
Yes please do!
This feels like a dystopia waiting to happen! Living at the bottom would be hell!
Normal cities and how they grew = "Unnatural". Building a 170km long building in the desert, where the temps get way in excess of 50 deg C, is of course completely natural.
It would need even more water for swamp cooling. Heat exchanging aint gonna work there lol
🤣 highest recorded temp in Saudi is 52C
@@Mekchanoid climb inside an empty oil storage tank or any such vessel on a sunny day and check that thermometer
the first cities of humanity were built near NEOM, and they stayed the only cities on earth for hundreds of years
world oldest continuously inhabited city is right next to it
natural? no, nothing about civilization is natural, that's what civilization is : controlling nature
you have the historical knowledge of a beaver tho, average American
They propose getting rid or roads to reclaim the space, but they don't realise the entire project is a road-shaped city that gives up EVERYTHING in order to be a high speed vehicle friendly straight line road.
I'm an assistant professor of computer science with a degree in AI... and I must say, "AI" is probably the most nonsensical buzzword people throw into sentences to sell off something as futuristic and hi-tech. Imagine if people knew that all it is, is good ol' calculus and linear algebra on the computer...
"AI" gets used wrongly, just like "hacked" does.
"Someone created an account with my photo, that means, I've been hacked" no.. that isn't what hacking is at all...
That's exactly what my AI said... 😁
maybe some graph theory thrown in...
As an AI research scientist, I cringed hard at every mention of "AI" in this video. Utter BS.
"AI" is to absurd futurism projects as "quantum" is to absurd Sci Fi technologies
Its just a recognizable word associated with fancy technology that people don't understand, so they can use it as they please.
This is a classic example of why it's a huge mistake to surround yourself with "yes men"...
Nope. Not to the slightest. Rather this is how US and European lobbys exploit Oil rich Arab nations. When you look at the "specifics" it become clear.
...and that's why you don't have women lead you.
@@manoman0 Not at all. All these BS projects are pitched by western lobbyists. Gulf states has a lot of money, but a large percentage of people are not that educated. So, these leaders lacks proper technical advisor. So, western lobbyists can pitch anything they want. It's just easy money for them.
@@manoman0 There's no female leader is Saudi Arabia. But do you know where is? In Vietnam, in Bangladesh, in Italy, and many other nations who doesn't do this kind of BS.
This project is the literal definition of "Having more money than sense".
This looks like a great idea for dystopian game or movie. Rich people and corporations reside in one end of the city, the poor live in poverty at the other end. You begin in the poor end and have to go through the whole city. Kinda like snowpiercer
This already exists in regular (round) cities lol
It looks like the wall from solar opposites lol
@@consensualcode9750 Eeeh, doesn't quite have the same blatant nature of literally being a scale of rich to poor, from one end to the other.
I'd say Arcane's Pitover and Zaun fits, although it's a pit instead of a wall
Yeah but you'll never surpass Midgar as a visual class divided city. A massive floating platform that all the rich live on with the poorer subclasses literally living below them.
Maybe they wanted a circle but this is the best they could do given the turning radius of a Hyperloop train at full speed.
Initially they wanted a big circle in the dessert, but then Apple sued them for IP infringment.
Viruses will travel through it faster 🤣
I actually thought that, its a line because hyperloop cant turn!!!
Full spenden, you mean like 50 mph
Trains don't have turning circles
As long as they make the entire city soundproof… I mean imagine the echo and neighbour noise
Good point and what about when everyone does wash on Saturday and hangs it out to dry on their balcony. BTW: I saw a video on RUclips about a city in asia which is like a huge block of houses just stacked up 200 feet in the air --- its crazy...ruclips.net/video/4YuNvIfM-YA/видео.html
This is like something that the generic human kingdom in the fantasy world build to keep out the orcs.
Also reflective surface will turn the wall into a deadly laser. Convinent, isnt it?
Imagine a fire breaking out in the line.
Imagine a single point failure.
Be like a cannon fuse.
Like Abdul spreading peace at 8092m/second?
They will just move the city to another place where there is no fire.
Imagine, a authoritarian regime puts you behind bars - sorry: walls. The notorious North Korea would be a open and free society compared to this. You might not even be allowed to leave your appartement, let alone your neighborhood. And people who aren´t obedient enough or maybe who´re just to poor might be forced to "live" outside in the barren wastelands of the deserts (why i´m getting "Judge Dredd" vibes, by writing this?
The more plans and fantasies for a "better tomorrow" we see, the more we learn, Stories like "1984" or "Fahrenheit 451" are lighthearted stuff written by complete optimists, who couldn´t imagine, how bad humans can be.
Or power outage.
If "Elon Musk proposed *his* hyperloop concept back in 2012..."
I would like to take this opportunity to propose *my* time machine concept, and of course I am encouraging innovators to make it a reality.
If on the off chance any of them succeed, just remember, it was my idea!
I hate elon musk
I've come from the future to let you know that you're the true Emperor of Mars in 2076
but is it a vacuum time travel for faster travel time, in time, or just a regular one, with wheels and fossil fuel using engine? or maybe it will have a spinning crystal to avoid all of these classic pitfalls?
hay if it hasn't worked at all and never will lets use it in our death trap city that also can't work why not!
What do we want? A time machine!
When do we want it? Doesn't matter!
That Jameson laugh
at the start was timed perfectly, I had just started laughing at the insane claim of "Built by 2025" so it felt like a buddy was laughing with me
It's a smart prison! Anyone who falls for this deserves it. 🤣
i like how their graphics also leave out the inevitable shanty towns and industrial zones that will be built up around the outside with a huge wall separating them from the gated community within.
Not a problem. They will just shoot those people. Problem solved! 😄
Ew. You don't want to show the poors.
Zero pollution and waste, no infrastructure failures due to hacker attacks, natural disasters, or sandstorms. No houthi rocket attacks either.
They should call it Desert Bottleneck Jam.
that's the purpose
Thats what the mirror is for
Matt Farell is the embodiment of "tech RUclipsrs" knowing exactly nothing about tech and reading things from articles written by people who are clueless as well. It amazes me how many people fall for this.
...And he's also the guy who will file infinitely many bogus copyright claims because he can't handle criticism.
it does not and has never amazed me how very many people fall for things like these. I have seen nothing but foolishness since before I was old enough to read.
What amazes me is that with the great number of fools and with their level of foolishness. 1. How has society not collapsed? 2. How are there so many idiots that have money for 500 dollar lomi counter top composters? 3. Where do they get this money, like what jobs pay that much where you can be that stupid and useless, and how can I get one? 4. How does anyone make it through the day without being crushed under a crippling depression brought on by the cynicism
I would genuinely like to know about, not dying from cynicism and how these people work and make money.
Matt Farell was that loser in college that thought he was as smart as the real smart people just because he was interested in 'nerd' things
not that suprising in this day and age.
look at anything modern.
computers and internet for example, howmany "tech supports" just spout random bullshit about DNS, IP etc.
and the people will go hmm, yes, that makes sense!
it's because his viewers have no grasp on the things he's talking about, maybe a few have.
same here for me, i'm interesting in what i'm seeing from thunderfoot, but i have no idea sometimes what is being said till he explains it.
Its really an effort to get a single video from Thunderfoot, but to get 4 of them, is really ....its the same with count dankulas internet j*rks: Getting multiple Videos, proofs how abysmal someones content is.
1:20 they do know they giant walls are also bad for plant and animal life right? They block movement which means animals patterns of life get disrupted. Also just because the footprint is smaller doesn’t mean the waste it produces is.
"The Line" was previously called "The Emperor's New Clothes".
When I saw the Ad I was like: "Weeell, that looks like a Job for Thunderf00t!" Aaaand here it is, a few days later. Kudos.
Transhumanism is one of the silliest religions in human history. Its believers read sci-fi literally just like identity gnosticists read fantasy literally. The delusions they create are cringe and fail to stand up to any critical scrutiny at all. At least we get content debunking the BS so we call laugh at the cringe together.
xD same, the moment i saw the line, I immediately thought about thunderfoot.
well to be fair .. we don't need thunderf00t for this .. even musk fans see that this is not gonna happen ..
@@TechExpanse Are you sure that Musk fans are THAT intelligent? Maybe you should have another look at jixuan and sebastian. They "debunked" thunderf00t's videos about the hyperloop. It was a trainwreck.
For Thunderf00t and for Adam Something
Literally sounds like the definition of a dystopian society, like something from Brave New World or 1984. Here's my take on a novel intro:
"They lead a grim life, but they did so for the promise of luxury. They pushed through every day because they knew that - in time - they would make their way to the top. They'd heard stories about the golden, robotic men that served fine wines and the flying cars that can take you out of this place whenever you like. They moved here because they were assured it was the future; that they - and their children - would live in a golden city free of toil. What they got was thrown into slavery and oppression, where they worked harder for less - hardly anything at all. But they were assured that if they worked hard enough, _they_ would come to be the ones at the top.
Only, that was a lie. Nobody ever really moves up in 'The Line.'"
Call it 'Towing the Line'
"All the promises kept me alive. I gave up everything to reach the uppermost layer. It was worth it. It had to be. I sacrificed my job, my family, my friends, my dignity, my morals... I have nothing else, I am not human any longer for even my humanity was a burden keeping me from reaching the end of the Line... And now that I have reached it, I realize I have no emotions left...
The promises were all false. The people in this layer live in the same misery as I did. The AI system controlling the drones failed long ago. The scorching sun hammers the top levels, and the solar panels, broken by the constant sand storms, do nothing but generate a thin shadow worth fighting over. The toxic fumes of the diesel generators and trash fires below rise up to this level and slowly poison the people. The ultra-rich abandoned Neom long ago, and their indentured servants took over the top layer. The city police does not keep us below to protect the lifestyle of the rich, they do it to protect everybody from the truth.
I cannot cry any more. The heat sublimates the sweat of my forehead, and the tears on my eyes. I should be hitting the ground. I should be driven to madness, but I am numb. Now that I see the promises are false, I have no reason to stay on the upper level. I decide to go down again, to the calm darkness away from the dry heat and the constant sand storms. I have no desire to warn the others about what life is really like up here. The city is already on strife without the need for widespread civil unrest. Even then, nobody would believe me. I have lied and cheated before. They may think I am making this up to keep them away from my paradise.
Time to go down. It seems the fastest route is not from where I came, but directly ahead. To the edge of the mirrored wall, so I walk forward and look to one side, and to the other. This linear city has no end. I look down, to the sands below, and jump outside of the mirrored wall. The true and only end to this nightmare."
I was thinking the mega cities of judge dredd
That Is some decent literature right there, well done!
That's not bad. "Running sewage in the streets and food that would make a German puke was their real destiny...."
Fun fact, I was born in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. People ask me if I want to visit my birthplace and I adamantly say no.
This community in Saudi seems like a project of some wealthy royal who just wants to lose a little bit of their money.
Anything to make Saudi look like a palatable landscape to live in is shot down in my head. It was not easy living in that heat. It’s oppressive.
Saudi is still the same as when I left it decades ago, it just has fast food now.
I feel like they saw that one engineer who said we should guild a giant wall in the middle of tornado alley to stop tornados. They then said what if we make it a city.
The people who came up with this were definitely doing lines!
The bigger the lines the bigger the ideas, this is why films were better in the 80s!
Hahahaha. Good one!
Damn right. The real cost is 2.72 Quadrillion dollars.
200 meters wide, and 170 km long, would cost (using Thunderfoot’s estimate of 80 Billion per square kilometer), 2.72 Quadrillion dollars. Nearly double the amount of money in existence.
Neeeeooommmm 🛩
👏👏👏😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
I mean the whole thing is pretty funny, but it's the timeframe that gets me every time. I spent 8 years working on the design/engineering for a 27 km long section of highway, which took another 8 years to build. That's just a bloody road! 😂
Yeah, my immediate reaction was "you can't build a CONVENTIONAL city for 9M people in a few years..."
Most people don’t realize how much time and effort it takes to design and build things. You can’t ”just make” something.
But robots.... 😂
I was always curious why this took long. It took my current city nearly a decade to make one line for its rail in toronto (Canada) which made traffic hell since I was literally a kid. Can you kindly explain why these sort of these things are done much slower pace compared to other countries?
@@consensualcode9750 graft, red tape, safety regulations, bs politics, etc.
"It sounds like something out of a science fiction novel"
HELL NO is sounds like Kowloon but bigger
One aspect rarely discussed is the question of people forming groups/units.
The linear form of this urban plan prevents the building of larger communities.
Call me suspicious, but smaller groups with the inevitable rivalry and tribe building is much easier to control and manipulate.
the problem with cities isn't the footprint. we have more than enough space. And even if you absolutly had to cut back, a line is pretty much the worst form a city could take.
And to make it worse...they are in the middle of a desert...the one place where space really, really isn't an issue...
Lets go Attack on Titan style xD. Circular cities with giant walls separating the people.
Agreed. The problem this city tries to wrongly address is that our cities are not designed ecologically in mind. With many US cities being sparsly populated. We also build cities in bad areas such as hurricane and flood plains. We also damage the environment for resources and oil. The city is a foolish. Which makes sense. Its probably so rich people can get away to a man made environment where they control everything.
Tossing aside the stupid marketing fluff, I tried giving this project the benefit of the doubt in terms of "How to preserve humanity once the climate becomes uninhabitable to humans."
Keeping humans in a climate controlled area makes more sense when it's not spread out as far. Less surface area, less roof to need to support. That said, an open area that tall would be subject to a ridiculous amount of heat differential due to the fact that heat rises. I would not be surprised if the bottom area were kept at 40°C at that height. Don't think there are any real world examples because no one is dumb enough to try. Plenty more to say, but ran out of time!
@@zierlyn The ideal shape to minimize surface area is a sphere/hemisphere, not a line.
Another issue, a big barrier like that would have devastating effects on any wildlife cut off by it, and not to mention the amount of birds that would fly straight into the mirrored sides.
True!!!!!!!
Birds don't fly into skyscrapers, so they'll be fine.
yeah true its even not protecting the little nature that is there 😂
That's the first thing that came to my mind!
And don't dunes travel with the wind ? they'll just end up with a big sand berm on one side, if it doesn't collapse under the weight of it before then...
The sheer amount of co2 released in building and maintaining this city would probably never been paid back.
CO2 is not a pollutant.
@@BryonLape tell that to NASA.
Expectation: Clean Techno Utopia
Reality: Kowloon Walled City 2.0
This sounds like a situation where an absolute ruler has consolidated so much power that no one is willing to call out his bad ideas.
This building, 200 meters wide, and 170 km long, would cost (using Thunderfoot’s estimate of 80 Billion per square kilometer), 2.72 Quadrillion dollars. Nearly double the amount of money in existence. It would take 5.4 thousand years to pay, if they spent 500 billion each year.
Only the ruler of the solar system, could pay for this thing to exist.
Oh the Saudi monarchy has a lot of critics, it just so happens that they get crusified for it, and when I say crucified I literally mean strung up on crosses and forced into a slow painful death as a "deterrent", just research "Saudi crucifixions", it makes me feel ashamed of being human
NEOM is a bunch of projects, and the line is just one. Their oil reserves are a lot lower than they openly admit, so they are trying super desperate things to get foreign moneys in; they want to turn into a global hub, which is why areas in NEOM will operate under a different legal framework than the rest of Saudi Arabia.
So, obviously this dystopian futuristic stuff won't actually happen; what will happen is a massive money laundering scheme on a global level. All this stuff for 'show' is just to deceive us into thinking they are oafs and the money disappeared due to their mass incompetence.... rather than mass laundering
@@serketenglish5963 when i heard 2025 i was like "come on, atleast try and make it believable and make it 2050 or 2060 orsomething"
granted, nobody can speak out on the goverment there since they'll just "dissapear" or their life is over, not by the goverment but by their status of criticising the goverment.
@@serketenglish5963 might wanna double check that math there lol, but still it is expensive
Love how the answer for every pie-in-the-sky project is simply: AI.
Yes. AI. AI will fix everything.
Will AI manage the discovery, arrest and execution of gay people? How about escaping slaves? Will there be a specific section of the wall set aside for ejecting gays over?
Universal hand waving concept. The AI will do it. It has AI engines in the hardware so it is future ready.
Like with the Tesla robot. Which is very easy to build because they already have "the AI".
@@RDJ2 Even though it doesn't appear to even be able to stand up on its own. The Honda Asimo looks infinitely more capable, and that was built 20 years ago.
Neom is just a gigantic skyscraper laid down on the ground.
Horizontal Babylon tower
In what world are people living? I swear, everyone is yearning for the future to magically solve EVERYTHING WITH NO EFFORT ON THEIR PART. Why would this thing be a good idea? Invisible technologies in a desert in a place where water is scarce. That alone is enough.
This is literally dystopian. Imagine living on the first floor. Also, where are the ways in and out? There is literally no escape.
What, afraid of a teensy-weensy fire? This is the future of humanity we’re talking about!
Now get in your pod or Greta will blah blah you.
The only way out is the Kashoggi way 🇸🇦
Hotel California style, but to get in you need to show the money.
Exactly what I was thinking, it would be one large prison.
Parachute.
I think they are missing a great opportunity here rather than a line which just connects two points, they should make this project into a Möbius strip. That way enormous construction savings could be realized by only needing to construct one edge and one side. For mars I would suggest a Klein bottle so the entire project can be self contained.
This guys got the geometry education and great jokes, I’m jealous.
The best part is, if you're inside, and you need to get outside, you're already there!
@@DFPercush exactly, and if you get the atmosphere right on the inside, you will have it right on the outside too.
@MEGAPINT Well, I for one would not like to see Morbius strip….
@MEGAPINT It's strip'n time!
$30 trillion? The Saudi royal family has that in their couch cushions.
/S
The walls are so shiny, even birds won’t resist flocking to it.
Looks like a massive prison, even if you escape you're in the freaking desert!
Starting laughing uncontrollably when they said “Jurassic park” theme park 😂 now I want to see a horror game of the line with Dinos on the loose
Raptors in the Line. Kind of like a sequel to Snakes on a Plane.
Except they all break their necks charging headfirst into a fortified mirror lol. They ARE ancestors of birds...lol
Arbs are only smart enuff to sell oil, when thats gone they will blow thru their savings and become the third world like Afganistan!
As a science-fiction enthusiast, it always hurts when Thunderf00t BUSTS something. But “the line” is just too easy to bust. What if it is just a superb trailer for a horror film: “Jurassic Park”?
That would actually be a good idea, not like the line itself.
Imagine being trapped between 2 walls and living under sharia law on top of that.
UPDATE - according to Bloomberg, the target has been cut from 105 miles to just 1.5 miles by 2030. So basically, it's dead before they have even finished digging the first holes. Who could have guessed??
I bet they found out that physics and math exist lol
Imagine the thermal expansion issues. Seismic expansion needed and wind resistances it would need. Air cannot flow around it like normal buildings only over.
Imagine the size of the sand dune that would form against it. Wouldn't be long before the whole thing is at a 45 degree angle due to the weight of the sand!
@@drunkenhobo5039 and when the sand cover most of it,it would become an oven and cook everyone inside xD
Thermal expansion?? I imagine the expansion of a select few people's wallets. Were they really claiming completion by 2025? Maybe having a plan in place by that time is reasonable, let alone sourcing supplies and breaking ground.
They might as well be making an artificial mountain range. At least that would (in theory and if aligned right) allow them to create farms on the side the side that would get all the moisture.
@@onradioactivewaves Yeah it would take decades of work to complete with hundreds of thousands of skilled workers. And that is only those on project site. Not even counting all the companies making the materials.
Never underestimate the potential for stupidly rich people to do stupidly expensive stupid projects
Hang on a minute, brands like Rolex, Bentley and Sunseeker and many others rely on these to55ers.
It's a scam, m0r0n. How the hell do you think they get rich? Do you not understand anything about how money works?
this is literally a barrier preventing animals from migrating
Oxford City council has announced 15 minute zones and only crossing with permission.
I like how it says to embrace nature. And then builds something that's not natural at all. Also, this line could kill off multiple species of animals as they wouldn't be able to cross the 'city' to the other side since its all blocked off. Nobody designing this bs has any idea what they're doing. I doubt they've even been outside before.
Every subsequent generation has been more removed from nature and have accepted a more artificial idea of "the great outdoors." How else do you get people to live in crowded cages? The environmental movement lost - it's all concrete and air conditioning for the future - except for the super wealthy and their private land.
dont worry we will become stronger and more intelligent under their plan. lols
Just build it on stilts so they can go under, duh! They can use vibranium to build the stilts!
Might as well call it the water wall of Exodus
They could just build little hyperloops crossing the city for all the animals to use. ;-)
Some of my guys already made fun of this, namely how being reflective glass outside, there'd be a mound of animal corpses all along each side, mostly birds...windmills, now this. Really saving that environment there boys!
And the sand would be so hot - it would be death to walk near it. Another thing - garbage - where do you put it. Third thing to laugh about : what if a terrorist blew up the center of the railway - or an accident happened. Oh no - the entire city is stuck
What birds? No birds live in that desert...
As for getting the sand hot around it, that's a feature, not a bug-it will serve as a hot-sand moot.
Ingenious I tell you!
Windmills don't kill birds.
@@anzaca1 Well, yes, they do (he meant large wind turbines). But that's a problem that is recognized and worked upon. He forgot to mention bats (much harder to protect than the large birds that fall "prey" to wind turbines).
@@anzaca1 lmfao ruclips.net/video/8NAAzBArYdw/видео.html
I look forward to exploring this half finished ruin as a side quest in the zombie wasteland video game reality is becoming.
The possibility anyone could have been harmed over this is just saddening. Literally nothing introduced in Neom's 'design' is rational, or even fully related to their linear concept.
2.72 Quadrillion Dollars is the real cost, for just the building.
200 meters wide, and 170 km long, would cost (using Thunderfoot’s estimate of 80 Billion per square kilometer), 2.72 Quadrillion dollars. Nearly double the amount of money in existence.
@@serketenglish5963 Well, the cost of the *proposed* building, right? So far we haven't seem confirmation of... anything.
I love the 500m high mirrored exterior walls that absolutely zero thought went into, the city is going to turn the surrounding desert to glass littered with scorched animal carcasses which will create the ideal post-apocalyptic dystopian vibe for a city like Neom to exist in.
It will disrupt animal movement and migration and create funny winds too. If this is in a desert even going East West as it looks like, wind will still pile sand on one side.
On the bright side free BBQ.
Also, if you're aiming for 100% renewable energy, why wouldn't those be solar panels?
@@darrennew8211 Because straight walls facing north and south get almost no sun at all.
@@Sunlight91 Yeah, but they'd get more than mirrors would! And you could of course angle them or even have them track the sun, since nobody is looking out anyway.
Whenever i hear replacing old tech with new tech "driven by A.I." i cringe a lot , i'm a phd level computer scientist we have nothing i repeat NOTHING close to general artificial intelligence that would be required to run the night watch... i mean Neom.
I know people think AI is some panacea it's not we can't even make AI cars that don't try to kill bike riders and Ai controlled citys is just bull shit we know that.
@@dmclegg66 moreover, the cars are not AI, it's just a neural network.
why would you even want general artificial intelligence? Training one neural network for each specific task seems much more effective to me.
Awww man there go my plans to have AI run a youtube channel so I can make money with it doing all the work for me... or wait, is that possible? :D
It is just one of the buzz words these type of scams use. Quantum is the other big one that comes to mind haha.
Imagine that one maglev or Hyperloop line fails. 5 million people would be late to work, or would have to travel like 300 subway stops.
Flying Taxies? That’s even worse, imagine how loud and dangerous that will be!
I just can’t, this idea is so stupid.
This whole glass monster is also one big wind sail and I can’t even imagine what will happen with the reflectivity of the glass. Maybe they are building a death ray! 😂
The first thing that came to my mind about this city was how full each end of the line would be during the holiday season because that's where the beaches are
It's a good idea, but I think I can improve it. Instead of one line, you make the city out of many parallel lines. Sort of like a grid. You do away with the long wall, and just have rows and columns of buildings, which would leave space between them for roads, so people could get around
and another improvement is you could replace that stupid hyper loop with something where you link multiple cars together with wheels that ride on some sort of metal track and there could be a vast network of these so called "hyper trams".
lets call this the new "hyper city". it may sound like just a regular city but we include even more crime and even more corruption granting it the hyper status.
That’s even more stupid than this line. That would look like a typical North American which is an even worse kind of design.
Hate to break it you, but the American grid system is even more garbage than "The Line". I can pop off three major reasons for it:
- Over reliance on personally owning your own vehicles
- Offensively hostile to walking commuters
- One of the major reasons the U.S. contributes so much pollution
@@deltan6212 The US has been doing grids since well before the automobile was a thing. You would just have people walk or ride trams/trains in the grid instead, like in the olden days.
@@angrymokyuu9475 Well color me red, you're right. Based on Quaker values of equality no less, stretching as far back as the mid 1600.
Still I won't retract that the grid is awful for the modern age. It takes forever to get to where I need to go in the city.
Setting aside the whole lunacy of this idea, I wonder about one specific point -> sand is an excellent abrasive. How do they plan to deal with buildings having their walls being sandblasted pretty much all the time?
I don't think they planned that far ahead
The AI will fix it bro, there will be like holographic AIs that respect and nurture the nature bro. Just open your mind bro.
Bitcoin.
Make walls out of solar panels instead
Free sandblasting is a feature, not a bug.
I feel like most of the latest big projects are impossible and everytimes I see this chanel you confirm exactly what I was thinking and add science to it
10:31 "plans include a jurassic park style amusement park" i think a sea world style amusement park is what you want. jurrasic park style amusement parks don't typically go to plan
That was a very low hanging fruit.
Also their intro actually makes for a nice scifi game idea and a linear city would make for easy level design for the game. Objective: Escape the LINE!
Can you run sideways or is it Prometheus-style only ?
You could set up a break in the sewage and mains water supply to create a flooded level.
@@FlushGorgon it's a 2d sidescroller.
My name idea: Dark Tunnel
Well its very similar to a game already that came out 20 years ago called Final Fantasy 7
I actually like these "futuristic" concepts, genuinely, you get a lot of dystopian story ideas for fictional stories
The year is 2123. Humanity is living in tiered strip-cities, where only the rich see the sun, and the rest shall grovel in the depths for but a glimpse.
The Saudi version of Judge Dredd will look rather similar but be completely unironic in its execution.
You always know these kinds of things are bullshit when they start saying the city revolves around stuff which doesn't exist yet. Like "We're creating a huge city that runs off dark matter and hovers above the oceon". This city is relying on so many things that don't exist.
Ehh, even dystopias have to be somewhat believable and logical...
I's truly prefer Saudi money being buried in the desert sands like this than exchanged for cutting edge western weaponry and political influence.
The funniest bit is the kids on VR. Holding out hands, goggles on FOREHEAD! Bwahahaha
Great news Thunderf00t! I have been authorized to tell you that you have been invited to the Saudi Embassy for some troubleshooting sessions regarding the line. Complementary bath included.
I can already see the "Elite Live on the Top, The Poor on the bottom" shenanigans, along with rich throwing trash to the bottom so it isn't "their" problem.
If any of their pipes spring a leak you'll have trickle down economics.
And the sand collection. Slave peasants get to shovel.
You mean like how it is today in most of the world?
I can't imagine people wouldn't just leave this cluttered garbage dump and build a city outside of "the line", assuming the area outside the line isn't for no apparent reason a barren fucking wasteland because the line condensed all the local resources.
Cool, now we can hack an entire city rather than just a smart home.
I'm curious how wind would affect it. It's essentially a 200-foot-tall wind wall that extends across the entire country, surely that would cause some issues?
just don't eat beans
Let's see, a 500 metre tall 170 km long wall would act like a giant sail. It would need to be an unbelievably strong structure and have incredibly strong foundations to resist the force of the wind against it. Just another inconvenient issue ignored in their fancy CGI animation.
Plenty of engineering techniques to get around the structural integrity problem you've mentioned.
This building, 200 meters wide, and 170 km long, would cost (using Thunderfoot’s estimate of 80 Billion per square kilometer), 2.72 Quadrillion dollars. Nearly double the amount of money in existence. It would take 5.4 thousand years to pay, if they spent 500 billion each year.
This project, which will be completed by 2030. Yeah no, Saudi Arabia isn’t going to exist by 7470 to even see this pipe dream come true.
Seriously, who’s brain cell birthed this half witted idea?
@@Ytremz Like which ones?
500 metre is half kilometre 😂😂, what a joke of 170 minutes laughing is finished by 2030.
I think they might have misunderstood geometry the shortest distance between 2 points is a line but the most stuff you can fit within a given distance is a circle. This is a fun idea for a movie but a laughable concept.
Giant float Coracle style oceanic cities is the go.
And why wouldn't you just build a circle in the first place? If you want a bunch of people squished into a line and serviced by rail, a circle would let the trains run in a constant loop instead of stopping and reversing at each end, meaning you could always pick which direction you need to go to get somewhere the fastest.
Which is an idea I had when I was 12 for a "future city," btw. This plan is more poorly-thought-out than a 12-year-old's fantasies.
@@Bacteriophagebs that's what the interstate loops around cities accomplish, any mass transit system would probably also take a similar shape.
It's like they get all their ideas from Netflix shows. Like they got the idea for living in a straight line from snowpiercer, and how to dispose of journalists from Breaking bad.
@@michael1 To be fair this sounds like a fun idea for a video game although I think they might come up with a slightly better reason that just because.
I feel better and better about AI everyday - there seems to be no chance we will ever see the techno-apocalypse in my lifetime.
The whole point of this is for the Royals to find the "Goldilocks" number of people between how many they need to maintain their comfort and not risk being overthrown when the oil runs out.
I find it hilarious that they say it’s more eco friendly. It’s literally a massive wall that blocks migrating animals. Birds hit the windows of my house all the time. Could you imagine how many flocks of birds are going slam into that thing!?
Maybe that's how they'll feed themselves? Fill freezers during migration times and eat bird meat all the time.
It's eco-friendly in that they're building a city far away from where any "nature" would ever want to exist.
@@extrastuff9463 HAHAH!
Well its not going to be made out of windows 😂
It's not gonna be made out of windows right? 😬
@@pumkin610 worse, mirrors!
"There are two options: maglev and hyperloop trains"
--- with the negligeble differnce that one of them does actually exists.
I love how Saudis just want anything that sounds futuristic.
It doesn't matter if it's practical, or even possible.
and it's such a power vampire that it might as well not. That means, in practice, they'll get standard high speed rail, which is fine because the railway will have to stop at points anyway.
@@InfernosReaper Over that sort of distance, a bog standard metro train would be the most appropriate choice.
@@kersplody7435 are you talking about the distance the train requires ti accelerate to full speed and to decelerate again before it stops? If so can you tell me where do you get that number and why it is that? I've been curious about this topic since I first heard about hyperloop and I just can't find anything about it.
@@kersplody7435 Yep. This strip city isn't gonna be that long and it's not like there won't be stops along the way, so all that top speed won't matter. Might as well just get a slightly faster version of one of those trams you see in airports.
Hey, I'm all for it! I've heard they've even planned stables for unicorns. Yippee!
Single points of failure: the city
Super fast trains are broken? Now 9 million people can't travel anywhere. And that's just traffic, not things like food and water supplies. Normal city shapes come with countless redundancies for everything, that's how they can reliably work at all.
And easy to sabotage but at least they've never had that problem in the Middle East
Lyckliy rail services NEVER fails... ;)
They will use advanced AI to ensure that the rail system never fails, never needs maintenance or an upgrade, they'll even be able to predict people intend to off themselves by jumping in front of the train and prevent them, Minority Report style. Everything is possible if you dream hard enough. Or you take magic mushrooms.
And natural disasters and the city is protecting a random part of saudi arabia
@@zwerko And all of the AI will be in the media, claiming everything works, and killing everyone that opposies that reality.
That is really how AI make things work
"Imagine eliminating cars, building denser communities, going around by walking and public transit" lmao they almost got it, almost
no
yeah it's called being poor lol
So close yet so far.
They need moving sidewalks like the jetsons.
@@theredscourge public transit is a good thing! Cars make people poor.
they actualy started building it. cant wait to see how far they will get.
I think they are racing Trump's wall
6:12 wow that aged greatly
Man, I didn't realise marketing agencies are now making sci-fi movie plots.
My jaw hit the floor when I found out that us corporations invented TV series.
They were originally commercials and companies paid the stations to play them.
Then it later switched to the ads being more dedicated and the shows made independently, the way it is today
Always have...
The game was rigged from the start mate....
Within 10 seconds, you know it's vaporware. Royalty free music, Renders, Synthesized voiceover. ✓
Smooth, sultry voices saying things like "We are connected. We are all linked. It is time to move forward. It's time to be a part of something."
Nothing specific, nothing actually said other than "give our impressive power point presentation money, plz."
They will run with the money and never finish it
"Right here, right now" by Fatboy Slim. very much doubt it being royalty free. but certainly cheaper than those graphics :)
on the other hand, that symbol above the name Neom. stylized pentagram, upside down is quite telling, thou...
@@zocc116 Wanted to reply just that, and add that i wonder if royalties were paid for it at all
Disasters like these are the best argument against royalty.
One of the earliest and for its time astonishingly advanced human civilisations was the Sumerian civilisation. Its demise coincided with the faith they put in building a Line in the Syrian Desert. So you may be right, but the lesson was not learned 4000 years ago, and I doubt it will be learned today.
I read an article that they've started work on it, and thought whoa that's absurd! Wait didn't I see a Thunderf00t video about it? I can't think of a worse place to live. Maybe it'll be good if it does bankrupt the Saudis though.
Then we can have a French revolution there.
China: We built enough unused ghost cities to house 80 million people.
Saudi Arabia: Hold our de-alc beer.
Those cities are build quite efficiently though (for the potential inhabitants).
This one will be insanely costly per inhabitant.
@@tardvandecluntproductions1278 The only reason they're built efficiently is they're not built with any sense of durability, I've seen Chinese ghost city buildings that have started falling apart within two years of use, balconies that just collapse, edging on walls that are just plastic over a thin metal frame, concrete panels that are just stuck onto columns and fall off the moment the weather changes and temperature causes an expansion.
You would not want to live in these buildings, they're just built to keep the construction companies in business and keep the economy chugging along, they're not nice places to live in.
@@tardvandecluntproductions1278 Yeah, just look for Tofu Dreg projects and Tofu Dreg buildings on YT. I wouldn't want to live in a modern Chinese building, well, unless I'd want the beneficiaries of my life insurance to be getting it quite soon, that is.
@@tardvandecluntproductions1278 "Those cities are build quite efficiently " wonder how well they are going to last in 25y
@@G1NZOU source: trust me bro
Yes, finally a termite colony for people!
Imagine if u wanted to bomb this place, you could kill millions with nearly no knowledge or expertise in nuclear bombs, just destroy the building's structure or poison the watersuply and they will be falling in midday
I dont see many benefits for the people living in it but I can see how it would make it really easy for the government to control the population living within. Any civil unreast like protesting could be easily quartered off, Outbreaks could be easily quarantined etc.
I was thinking that it looked like a fancy prison. What are those people supposed to do for a living? I guess there is a shortage of sand globally. Maybe they should concentrate on that. They sure have the resources.
I honestly thought this concept was supposed to be satire the first time I saw it.
This is just wonderful. I am speechless!
All brought to you by people who build cities, without such basic things as working sewers.
That's Dubai, different country.
@@kostis2849 Different country, but a very very similar sort of stupidity involved. When people have endless money and nothing to spend it on, they'll do the most ridiculous things just cause they seem cool.
@@kostis2849 Saudi is no different. Whenever it rains hard the entire country floods.. I've been there mate :/
@@quantumzain Oh, I knowwwww
Right so they''d build a city from scratch and leave out a sewage system
“There are two options, maglev and Hyperloop” - uh, no. The Hyperloop TEST PODS the size of pinewood derby cars so small that they couldn’t even carry a family of kittens can’t even go 300 mph.
Also there are conventional rail trains which will do 300mph...
😂 This dumb idea doesn't deserve the delightful image of a wood box full of kittens☺️
You forgot about taxis in tunnels doing 10mph.