Decades ago, in Shotokan Aikido, we where taught, once you apply the wrist lock, you pull his wrist backwards to your solar plexus locking the wrist against your body (this takes his COG Center of Gravity). Then with the lock on you turn your torso sideways and bend your waste downward, your body kinetics takes him down effortlessly.
LOL you WC guys! Great shout out for the other stylists! In our school we were taught how to apply a wrist lock as you've demonstrated. We're also taught to twist the wrist outwards at the same time. As it was taught to us as a primary self-defense move, if in a situation which calls for this move, and your life depended on it, we were taught to apply the lock/twist until something breaks (this would only take a split-second), then run. I can see how the counter could work. But only if time allows, the lock applied isn't severe, and if you can think quickly.
Phenomenal breakdown 👌 Had an old substitute teacher do the 3rd version to a HS champion competition wrestler and the man broke the wrist lock 10/10 times, literally without breaking a sweat. Classmate's mind was blown saying "I was squeezing the life out of em and it didn't matter" 😉 Body mechanics and tried and true techniques. Y'all focus on utilizing both and its greatly appreciated 🙏
Great breakdown! That’s why you give to guy a meaningful strike in a vulnerable area before applying the join lock. This is because as my friend of mine said “ give them something else to think about” besides attempting to get out of the lock at the moment of application. 😎
In Aikido that is not the position that you would be in. If the technique is applied properly you are already on the ground prone or your arm is broken. You have him in a static position that only happens while learning the technique step by step. That's where all the "what it's" come in is during static training. We would never stop in that position while applying the technique. Also, as the Shotokan Aikido guy mentioned, pulling that into your body would prevent that counter. As to people pulling guns and knives while you're applying the technique, it's just not going to happen until they are on the ground at least.
One min in and I think "Where is the angle of the lock?" You have to make the wrist go in a way it is not supposed to go. You don't bend it toward the arm or face. That's how the wrist works. You push the wrist so the pinky follows a line toward the outside of the shoulder, aka a 45 degree angle to the outside.
Nonsense. These counters only work because you are stopping in the middle of the technique and assuming a static position. Secondly, even if the guy did manage to counter, he gives you another lock in the process. By countering your center lock the way he did, he invites an arm bar. Good Hapkido practitioners know this and drill the flow from the wrist lock to the arm bar. Lastly, you could also overcome any of these counters by simple dropping back and dropping your body weight. The last thing you would ever do is stand there like an idiot and try to overcome through force, like you did in your video.
Nice - just my 2 cents: If you get there early enough and the other arm is free you can use this defense … other arm immobilized or get there a second late and the wrist is broken…thanks ❤
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If you are going to have any wrist lock not only do you need better grip. you need to create an angle to prevent the other arm from being able to have a role. Rotate backwards
Except that's not how you do the technique. He's only doing it halfway. The real technique includes a rotation of the wrist. This puts it at least 45⁰ off angle from the guy, which makes it more difficult for him to counter. Also, the guy doing the technique, doesn't use his left thumb, he covers the guy's left hand with his left hand while curving it. When done correctly, trying to push against the lock, would make it worse, not better. As well, the guy doing the lock would enter and rotate. It would never be done statically, always dynamic. Most Aikido schools are no better than dance schools, but there are a handful of really good Aikido guys and no one is pushing out of a properly applied kote-gaishi! Say what you will about Segal, but no one is getting out of his wristlock. Look at 1:30 in the below linked video, this is an excellent example. Once you're in position, gun, knife, or empty hand, your screwed. ruclips.net/video/WzbaCQh7Hjo/видео.html
I'm wondering why you think you'll be able to brace your hand faster than he can wrench it. Your suggestion only works if your opponent pauses mid-technique or goes in slow motion, which will probably be the case in a dojo because he wants to give you the chance to tap. But outside of a dojo or if the guy doesn't care about your well-being, there's no reason this should work. And even if it did you'd just get punched in the nose.
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Decades ago, in Shotokan Aikido, we where taught, once you apply the wrist lock, you pull his wrist backwards to your solar plexus locking the wrist against your body (this takes his COG Center of Gravity). Then with the lock on you turn your torso sideways and bend your waste downward, your body kinetics takes him down effortlessly.
I've trained 19 years and didn't think of that...thank u
LOL you WC guys! Great shout out for the other stylists!
In our school we were taught how to apply a wrist lock as you've demonstrated. We're also taught to twist the wrist outwards at the same time. As it was taught to us as a primary self-defense move, if in a situation which calls for this move, and your life depended on it, we were taught to apply the lock/twist until something breaks (this would only take a split-second), then run.
I can see how the counter could work. But only if time allows, the lock applied isn't severe, and if you can think quickly.
Phenomenal breakdown 👌
Had an old substitute teacher do the 3rd version to a HS champion competition wrestler and the man broke the wrist lock 10/10 times, literally without breaking a sweat. Classmate's mind was blown saying "I was squeezing the life out of em and it didn't matter" 😉
Body mechanics and tried and true techniques. Y'all focus on utilizing both and its greatly appreciated 🙏
Great breakdown! That’s why you give to guy a meaningful strike in a vulnerable area before applying the join lock. This is because as my friend of mine said “ give them something else to think about” besides attempting to get out of the lock at the moment of application. 😎
In Aikido that is not the position that you would be in. If the technique is applied properly you are already on the ground prone or your arm is broken. You have him in a static position that only happens while learning the technique step by step. That's where all the "what it's" come in is during static training. We would never stop in that position while applying the technique. Also, as the Shotokan Aikido guy mentioned, pulling that into your body would prevent that counter. As to people pulling guns and knives while you're applying the technique, it's just not going to happen until they are on the ground at least.
Could you take both wrists. Glue them to your chest?
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One min in and I think "Where is the angle of the lock?" You have to make the wrist go in a way it is not supposed to go. You don't bend it toward the arm or face. That's how the wrist works. You push the wrist so the pinky follows a line toward the outside of the shoulder, aka a 45 degree angle to the outside.
Excellent! Simple stuff works and good knowledge. Always build your arsenal
I assume that, if the wrist lock is applied with speed and surprise the counter will be too late. Especially on the one at @2:58
A good wrist lock requires you to act on it. If you trie to punch with the free hand your ill get the snap of your wrist first. Save the hand first.
Nonsense. These counters only work because you are stopping in the middle of the technique and assuming a static position. Secondly, even if the guy did manage to counter, he gives you another lock in the process. By countering your center lock the way he did, he invites an arm bar. Good Hapkido practitioners know this and drill the flow from the wrist lock to the arm bar. Lastly, you could also overcome any of these counters by simple dropping back and dropping your body weight. The last thing you would ever do is stand there like an idiot and try to overcome through force, like you did in your video.
IKR? I had similar thoughts.
Nice - just my 2 cents: If you get there early enough and the other arm is free you can use this defense … other arm immobilized or get there a second late and the wrist is broken…thanks ❤
Nice
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If you are going to have any wrist lock not only do you need better grip. you need to create an angle to prevent the other arm from being able to have a role. Rotate backwards
Bro is that a French roll hairstyle on the back of your head. Cmon dude really. Good video by the way
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It’s not working because you don’t know how to do a wrist lock. Your grip is terrible.
Agreed. His grip is too low, you don't want to touch the wrist while doing a wrist lock
You should change the title to "This one move will counter the wristlocks I know how to do." Not every wristlock.
I do Chen tai chi, I always just spiral out of that shit! 😄
So joint locks don't work? 😢
Except that's not how you do the technique. He's only doing it halfway. The real technique includes a rotation of the wrist. This puts it at least 45⁰ off angle from the guy, which makes it more difficult for him to counter.
Also, the guy doing the technique, doesn't use his left thumb, he covers the guy's left hand with his left hand while curving it.
When done correctly, trying to push against the lock, would make it worse, not better.
As well, the guy doing the lock would enter and rotate. It would never be done statically, always dynamic.
Most Aikido schools are no better than dance schools, but there are a handful of really good Aikido guys and no one is pushing out of a properly applied kote-gaishi!
Say what you will about Segal, but no one is getting out of his wristlock. Look at 1:30 in the below linked video, this is an excellent example. Once you're in position, gun, knife, or empty hand, your screwed.
ruclips.net/video/WzbaCQh7Hjo/видео.html
That wasn't a wrist lock
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Which are you talking about, the original, or my link?
Please show some Palm Freezing today, something else other from 1 Aiki to ... Taoki ... 127 blah 128. Somewhere in from there just to entertain.
I'm wondering why you think you'll be able to brace your hand faster than he can wrench it. Your suggestion only works if your opponent pauses mid-technique or goes in slow motion, which will probably be the case in a dojo because he wants to give you the chance to tap. But outside of a dojo or if the guy doesn't care about your well-being, there's no reason this should work. And even if it did you'd just get punched in the nose.
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