He was comparing them within the context of each team ie Sexton was arguably the best Ireland has ever had and Carter was the best NZ ever had. Not that they were both as good as each other.
@@darrenleroux2034 Its not that complicated. 3 things can be true at once. 1: Sexton arguably the best Ireland has had. 2: Carter arguably the best NZ has had. 3: Carter was better and more successful than Sexton. The point of them both being so highly regarder within their own teams/countries is perfectly valid given NZs historical success.
Being fair, Sexton didn't respect the whistle at the end of a game and even sprayed refs after the whistle. Great player, but he let himself down at times with his behaviour, and this is why many people will find little sympathy. If he had been more like Richie M, Wilkinson, or even O'Driscoll, he would be remembered by many more as a great. All super competitive but never found the need to be bratish.
Sam Cane got called a 'shite Richie McCaw and some Irish pundits were bragging before the game about how Ireland took the ABs soul in that 2022 series, so I really don't get why this has turned into drama. Learn to take it if you like dishing it out
@@kokorice123 Sam Cane the shite Richie has been past wc 1/4 final, x3 times in his career. Ireland as a rugby nation hasn’t been to one ever in their history 😂😂
Whitlock, Retallick, Smith. 3 GOATs of NZ rugby that retired after that match. If, as a mainstream rugby podcast, you can't even recall it was their last games, maybe check the bias
I agree with everything James is saying but the context is that Rieko had just played one of the best games of his career and he was in a moment too after some serious questioning over the previous games. Real human beings. Nothing to see here apart from headlines.
Sexton was a tool. The Irish dished it out in NZ on the previous tour yet don’t like it when they get it back. To compare him to Dan Carter is ridiculous. Sexton was a good player. Carter was a legendary player , probably the greatest of all 10s. Furthermore, Carter conducted himself like a gentleman on the pitch. Sexton conducted himself like an immature petulant child.
@@darrenleroux2034 he didn’t even play that game mate😂😂😂 he was on the sideline injured and still had horrible words to say I can’t see how people defend this guy
Sexton may have been a great kicker but he was an arrogant knob with a big head. The only reason why the Irish love him is because he played for Ireland. Nothing more. "Even if you don't like him you should respect him" He did not even bother to apologize to Peyper after the Champions Cup final abuse - Leo Cullen had to do it. What is there to respect?
Man, has it come around that quickly? Where has the time gone. Almost a year to the day, the Irish players were packing their bags two weeks prior to the RWC finishing and getting ready to go home and start pre-season training for their club sides, their fans trying to scalp their semi and finals tickets, and of course Johnny "My $@"' Don't Stink" Sexton getting triggered by Reiko Ioane. It's almost Deja Vu without the tournament. All I want to say is, thank you Lord Jesus for Reiko. Old mate in the middle didn't look to impressed when a comment was getting ready out. It's hilarious how hes trying to paint Reiko as a coward, yet doesn't say word when his mate Johnny slags Ioane off in his book. He may have a bias, but he's also not very bright. At least the other two can understand it and see the funny side. In the end it was a nothing comment that's now become the main talking point of Sexton's book and career. Talk about a petulant child and living rent free in someone's head. I hope Reiko never reply's or addresses that issues. He doesn't need too. But if he does, it won't matter, he's won this pis*ing contest either way. Sexton actually mentions the Reiko incident in his book FFS. When are we going to see, "Sam Cane can't ruck?" Where's that guy?
Chill out. He's done it for exactly this reason, to get people talking and buy the book. And seems to be working a treat by getting this sort of traction.
@bunnychowmuncher the man in truth had an amazing rugby career and recognised by World Player of the year also. Is now working in a lucrative business position and has a best selling autobiography. I don't think he'll care what either of us think
@alanfox6454 awards and records dont make you a good person - neither being "good in business". That success went to his head, and he treated others including his team mates and officials and like complete trash at times.
Johnny Sexton is not on Dan Carter's level!!!!!! In life you have to earn respect, and although he was a good player he wasn't a nice bloke.He dished it out as well. If he verbally abused referees, just imagine what he said to players during matches.
Johnny Sexton is the perfect example of what happens when a rugby player, and fans, thinks he's better than he really is. Johnny was an average at best, no class, on-field pikey that never commanded respect from opposition or opposition fans because he was acting like a petulant child and was completely void of any humility in victory or defeat. He deserves everything he's getting. What goes around comes around sunshine.
If you give it, you must be prepared to get it. Great player, but a man-child most times. He was propped up and it got to his head. He was chasing the refs after the final whistle at in the champions cup , so getting some spicy comments after the final whistle should not surprise him.
That incident after CC final should've been curtains for his career. World rugby had a chance to send a clear message and ban Sexton from the WC. What makes even more galling, Sexton wasn't playing. Disgraceful behavior comparable to a spoiled, entitled Child with a coprolalia disorder.
Guy in the middle make a good point about context of what was said and the Dan Carter/Sam Cane retirement analogy. But with the same logic, the context of someone said that to Dan Carter would be different from Sexton because Dan Carter was a humble player who never would be seen screaming and shouting at refs like Sexton, so if someone said that to Carter on his last game it would be sad but since it’s sexton I think it’s hilarious
Respect is earned both on and off the field. Sexton shouldn’t even be compared to Carter - not even close to being in the same class either as a player or a human being. His treatment of Peyper was disgusting too. Ireland may be highly ranked using a subjective and imperfect ranking mechanism - but when it comes to play-offs they are the number one chokers in world rugby.
Reiko is still making comments about the extract from the book today, he has easily increased sextons book sales by 20%, I would say Johnny is laughing his head off at home planning on what he will be spending all the cash on. Thanks Reiko, regards, Johnny S
Pretty sure Sexton omitted some words he told Rieko after being told to get back 10... can't see Sexton not replying to that... no doubt tgat's why Reiko told him to enjoy his flight. TV footage shows Sexton had his head down when NZ won the penalty anyway so he lied in his book and shouldn't have been complaining on the field. He's an a-grade tool
Honestly the Irish fans and pundits need to move on from the WC. The ongoing hand wringing and pearl clutching is reflecting really poorly on them. I don’t condone what Reiko said but all is fair in love and war, it happened in the heat of the moment, the ABs won. Move on. James Tracy needs to be pretty careful as well. He came out the eve of the QF effectively saying Ireland would smash the ABs and he hasn’t (to my knowledge) swallowed that rat and eaten humble pie. He has limited credibility in the eyes of most rugby fans, particularly in the Southern Hemisphere and comes across as bitter and twisted
That's the biggest point. The game was over and he was retired. It's a cheap shot because there's no next game for payback. Anyone that says he deserves it is in favour of disrespecting all retired players who can't come back at you by playing a great game. I think it's cowardly.
@@alanfox6454 Sexton got World Player of the Year because of Ireland’s success. He’s a limited player who might be an ‘Irish great’ but would not be mentioned in the best 10s of all time. He’d be lucky to be in the top 50 best ever 10s. He’d be in the top 10 most disliked players. Even loads of Irishmen are saying he should learn to take it if he likes giving it out. A complete crybaby who I have little respect for. Carter was 10x the player Sexton ever was. Ireland wouldn’t be the team they are without 40% of their backline coming from New Zealand anyway.
Sexton an all time great? It’s absolutely laughable that these fairies and Sexton got upset about comments made on the field after Sexton most definitely dished out chirps. Man up, that’s part of the game and maybe in that process of hardening up the Irish might win something in which Southern hemisphere teams compete.
You saffas are suffering from collective amnesia, we beat you in your own backyard a few months ago dude. Sexton is easily an all time great, but he was also a brat at times.
The point being made was the comments were directed to him after the final whistle. I'm all for it during the game but not after the game. Reiko showed his true colors.
@@tvpc3194 Crowley should've been brought on much earlier. All this over reliance on Sexton is partly what lost Ire the game. Ire had no issues winning the 2024 6N and drawing the SA series without him.
Reiko was dead right to say whatever he wanted to sexton. Ireland have had some many chirpers down through the years. James Treacy is an ex teammate of Sexton so of course it won’t sit right with me. We need to just get over it…. We bottled it at another World Cup, just get on with it.
Irish rugby pundits are moving past English pundits for delusional BS. Dan Carter was the best 10 to ever play rugby. Sexton is not in that conversation, no one is.
sexton is a bum compared to dan carter sexton choaked every world cup he's been in. dan carter took games over and literally won nz that 2015 world cup
Comparing Sexton to Carter is miles off. Sexton is a good first class test flyhalf. Dan Carter is legendary test rugby player. They are leagues apart.
Utter madness they did that. Sexton was a good ten and at times great but nowhere near Carter.
He was comparing them within the context of each team ie Sexton was arguably the best Ireland has ever had and Carter was the best NZ ever had. Not that they were both as good as each other.
You cannot put Sexton in the same sentence as Dan Carter, get some perspective…..
@@darrenleroux2034 Its not that complicated. 3 things can be true at once.
1: Sexton arguably the best Ireland has had.
2: Carter arguably the best NZ has had.
3: Carter was better and more successful than Sexton.
The point of them both being so highly regarder within their own teams/countries is perfectly valid given NZs historical success.
@@gary199c5 Not buying your justification, Sexton should not be spoken about in the same manner as Dan Carter, full stop!!
Being fair, Sexton didn't respect the whistle at the end of a game and even sprayed refs after the whistle. Great player, but he let himself down at times with his behaviour, and this is why many people will find little sympathy. If he had been more like Richie M, Wilkinson, or even O'Driscoll, he would be remembered by many more as a great. All super competitive but never found the need to be bratish.
Sexton and Dan Carter are not comparable. Dan had respect from everyone, Sexton however was the complete opposite, total knob
Carter was also a much much much better player.
Sexton never stopped mouthing off and complaining to the ref in every game, I was never a fan of the man!
Sam Cane got called a 'shite Richie McCaw and some Irish pundits were bragging before the game about how Ireland took the ABs soul in that 2022 series, so I really don't get why this has turned into drama. Learn to take it if you like dishing it out
@@kokorice123 Sam Cane the shite Richie has been past wc 1/4 final, x3 times in his career. Ireland as a rugby nation hasn’t been to one ever in their history 😂😂
I have to say as a Leinster and Ireland fan I didn't like the way he carried on sometimes.
Why didn't you say something about it ?
Whitlock, Retallick, Smith. 3 GOATs of NZ rugby that retired after that match. If, as a mainstream rugby podcast, you can't even recall it was their last games, maybe check the bias
I agree with everything James is saying but the context is that Rieko had just played one of the best games of his career and he was in a moment too after some serious questioning over the previous games. Real human beings. Nothing to see here apart from headlines.
Sexton is the last person i have sympathy for when it comes to shit talking
Sexton was a tool. The Irish dished it out in NZ on the previous tour yet don’t like it when they get it back. To compare him to Dan Carter is ridiculous. Sexton was a good player. Carter was a legendary player , probably the greatest of all 10s. Furthermore, Carter conducted himself like a gentleman on the pitch. Sexton conducted himself like an immature petulant child.
Sexton was a prat!
I'm Irish + have zero sympathy for Sexton / reap what you sow.
Sexton is a dockhead. It's so nice to see him getting a taste of his own medicine when Ireland lost.
Johnny Sexton hasn’t even apologised to Jaco Peyper for verbally abusing him after the champions cup final.
Sexton’s on field behavioural was always deplorable…..
@@darrenleroux2034 he didn’t even play that game mate😂😂😂 he was on the sideline injured and still had horrible words to say
I can’t see how people defend this guy
lol he hurt his feelings so he wrote about it in his dear diary the sook 😆 great for sales tho lol.
Sexton may have been a great kicker but he was an arrogant knob with a big head. The only reason why the Irish love him is because he played for Ireland. Nothing more.
"Even if you don't like him you should respect him"
He did not even bother to apologize to Peyper after the Champions Cup final abuse - Leo Cullen had to do it. What is there to respect?
Man, has it come around that quickly? Where has the time gone. Almost a year to the day, the Irish players were packing their bags two weeks prior to the RWC finishing and getting ready to go home and start pre-season training for their club sides, their fans trying to scalp their semi and finals tickets, and of course Johnny "My $@"' Don't Stink" Sexton getting triggered by Reiko Ioane. It's almost Deja Vu without the tournament. All I want to say is, thank you Lord Jesus for Reiko.
Old mate in the middle didn't look to impressed when a comment was getting ready out. It's hilarious how hes trying to paint Reiko as a coward, yet doesn't say word when his mate Johnny slags Ioane off in his book. He may have a bias, but he's also not very bright. At least the other two can understand it and see the funny side. In the end it was a nothing comment that's now become the main talking point of Sexton's book and career. Talk about a petulant child and living rent free in someone's head. I hope Reiko never reply's or addresses that issues. He doesn't need too. But if he does, it won't matter, he's won this pis*ing contest either way. Sexton actually mentions the Reiko incident in his book FFS.
When are we going to see, "Sam Cane can't ruck?" Where's that guy?
Chill out. He's done it for exactly this reason, to get people talking and buy the book. And seems to be working a treat by getting this sort of traction.
@alanfox6454 No he is a first class Pratt even without a book. I'm not buying the book. Most expensive toilet paper ever.
@bunnychowmuncher the man in truth had an amazing rugby career and recognised by World Player of the year also. Is now working in a lucrative business position and has a best selling autobiography. I don't think he'll care what either of us think
@alanfox6454 awards and records dont make you a good person - neither being "good in business". That success went to his head, and he treated others including his team mates and officials and like complete trash at times.
If you give it out for a whole career then don’t whinge when the boot is on the other foot. What goes round comes round. 😅
Sexton had it coming. Im only disappointed it came later rather than sooner
He was a horrible horrible man and got his come uppance!!
Absolutely hilarious 😂😂😂
Ireland can dish it out but can’t take it they almost sound like Australians 🤣🤣🤣 and Ioane was just stating fact Sexton did have a plane to catch 💀💀💀
sexton must have some kiwi ancestry the way he whinges and cant take it 🤣
@@hanoitripper18093 world cups most dominant sports team ever
@@Forcez89 yeh nah 🤣
@@Forcez89you just proved the point 🤣
@@hanoitripper1809nah he ain’t got no kiwi in him coz he ain’t won a World Cup
Can't wait to see these two teams do their talking on the field. Bring on the autumn internationals! Lets go!!!
😂😂😂😂 When Johhny abused Peyper, that was after the final whistle yeah?
Is there a victim in this saga or is it just rival Bin men chucking rubbish into each others trucks as they pass each other?
Bohooooo Sexton.....😢😢😢😢 take like a man
Jaco Peyper would like a word with these apologists
If ireland had won Sexton would of sprayed 💦💦all blacks telling them we told south africa will see them in the final😗
Johnny Sexton is not on Dan Carter's level!!!!!! In life you have to earn respect, and although he was a good player he wasn't a nice bloke.He dished it out as well. If he verbally abused referees, just imagine what he said to players during matches.
Johnny Sexton is the perfect example of what happens when a rugby player, and fans, thinks he's better than he really is. Johnny was an average at best, no class, on-field pikey that never commanded respect from opposition or opposition fans because he was acting like a petulant child and was completely void of any humility in victory or defeat. He deserves everything he's getting. What goes around comes around sunshine.
Honestly this is a complete non story. No context is being given from a NZ perspective. It’s competitive sport at elite level. Things get said.
Springbok fans like me will not read Sexton's book if you paid us.
Rieko is in Sextons head 🎶😂
If you give it, you must be prepared to get it.
Great player, but a man-child most times.
He was propped up and it got to his head.
He was chasing the refs after the final whistle at in the champions cup , so getting some spicy comments after the final whistle should not surprise him.
That incident after CC final should've been curtains for his career. World rugby had a chance to send a clear message and ban Sexton from the WC. What makes even more galling, Sexton wasn't playing. Disgraceful behavior comparable to a spoiled, entitled Child with a coprolalia disorder.
Sexton would do the same thing or worse
Not only did Sexton have the shoulders of a snake, he spat venom on the field MANY times
Guy in the middle make a good point about context of what was said and the Dan Carter/Sam Cane retirement analogy. But with the same logic, the context of someone said that to Dan Carter would be different from Sexton because Dan Carter was a humble player who never would be seen screaming and shouting at refs like Sexton, so if someone said that to Carter on his last game it would be sad but since it’s sexton I think it’s hilarious
reiko ioane has gone up a notch in my book. Legend
Respect is earned both on and off the field. Sexton shouldn’t even be compared to Carter - not even close to being in the same class either as a player or a human being. His treatment of Peyper was disgusting too. Ireland may be highly ranked using a subjective and imperfect ranking mechanism - but when it comes to play-offs they are the number one chokers in world rugby.
Reiko is still making comments about the extract from the book today, he has easily increased sextons book sales by 20%, I would say Johnny is laughing his head off at home planning on what he will be spending all the cash on. Thanks Reiko, regards, Johnny S
Can he use that money to buy a semi final ?
Onya reiko 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Pretty sure Sexton omitted some words he told Rieko after being told to get back 10... can't see Sexton not replying to that... no doubt tgat's why Reiko told him to enjoy his flight. TV footage shows Sexton had his head down when NZ won the penalty anyway so he lied in his book and shouldn't have been complaining on the field. He's an a-grade tool
Honestly the Irish fans and pundits need to move on from the WC. The ongoing hand wringing and pearl clutching is reflecting really poorly on them. I don’t condone what Reiko said but all is fair in love and war, it happened in the heat of the moment, the ABs won. Move on. James Tracy needs to be pretty careful as well. He came out the eve of the QF effectively saying Ireland would smash the ABs and he hasn’t (to my knowledge) swallowed that rat and eaten humble pie. He has limited credibility in the eyes of most rugby fans, particularly in the Southern Hemisphere and comes across as bitter and twisted
using your logic against you: Sexton is sticking the knife in after the whistle here too. In print.
Where can I order if I live in South Africa?
The best side in the tournament,more like one trick ponies.37phases with no reward,to win major comps you need to be able to change it up a bit.
Your comment is really stupid
I’d love to know what said to POM
I'm pretty sure Brodie Rettalick came out and told everyone what was said, I just can't remember what exactly it was
@@callumbrown6010 "Oi Peter, four more years you f*&^%it". 😂🤣
Now it's about the timing of what was said. Give me a break 😂😂😂😂 #Sooks
It's as simple as show some respect to a retiring legend of the game when the whistle goes
That's the biggest point. The game was over and he was retired. It's a cheap shot because there's no next game for payback. Anyone that says he deserves it is in favour of disrespecting all retired players who can't come back at you by playing a great game. I think it's cowardly.
In the same way he showed the ref respect by chasing after him once the final whistle blew???
@@andreswart4951 why? What did he say? What did he call the referee? Don't say half a story or how can we say if there's equivalence.
Legend?
Izzy Daggs comments about sextons mum was out of order
What did he say?
Ya it's pretty bad.
@@adhamh3666 ''mum should have swallowed''
Ioane should be glad to be mentioned in the same sentence as a World Player of the Year.
Just a shame he will never know the feeling of being a world champion huh 😅
@@Forcez89 either will Ioane ??.
@@alanfox6454a At least he knows how it feels to be in a World Cup final…….and semi final 🤣😂🤣.
@SuperEdge67 and Sexton knows what it feels to be World Player of the year. A feat Ioane will never experience if you want to dick measure the 2.
@@alanfox6454 Sexton got World Player of the Year because of Ireland’s success. He’s a limited player who might be an ‘Irish great’ but would not be mentioned in the best 10s of all time. He’d be lucky to be in the top 50 best ever 10s.
He’d be in the top 10 most disliked players. Even loads of Irishmen are saying he should learn to take it if he likes giving it out. A complete crybaby who I have little respect for.
Carter was 10x the player Sexton ever was. Ireland wouldn’t be the team they are without 40% of their backline coming from New Zealand anyway.
Sexton an all time great? It’s absolutely laughable that these fairies and Sexton got upset about comments made on the field after Sexton most definitely dished out chirps. Man up, that’s part of the game and maybe in that process of hardening up the Irish might win something in which Southern hemisphere teams compete.
You saffas are suffering from collective amnesia, we beat you in your own backyard a few months ago dude. Sexton is easily an all time great, but he was also a brat at times.
The point being made was the comments were directed to him after the final whistle. I'm all for it during the game but not after the game. Reiko showed his true colors.
sexton as not great he even missed an easy peno in that game
@@tvpc3194 Crowley should've been brought on much earlier. All this over reliance on Sexton is partly what lost Ire the game.
Ire had no issues winning the 2024 6N and drawing the SA series without him.
@@PB22559that's actually a great point but the Irish media are fanboys and won't mention something like that
Hes right Barns had to screw up and New Zealand one last time before he cleared off
Well said Rieko Ioane. Spot on
Reiko was dead right to say whatever he wanted to sexton. Ireland have had some many chirpers down through the years. James Treacy is an ex teammate of Sexton so of course it won’t sit right with me. We need to just get over it…. We bottled it at another World Cup, just get on with it.
Treacy had a mouth on him when he played for Leinster b/c against the like of zebra
People who are in the comment section giving Johnny some lack can never understand what it is to have a true desire to win, keep crying losers
Irish rugby pundits are moving past English pundits for delusional BS. Dan Carter was the best 10 to ever play rugby. Sexton is not in that conversation, no one is.
In your head, 😀😀😀
tracey talks some amount of bollix
sexton is a bum compared to dan carter sexton choaked every world cup he's been in. dan carter took games over and literally won nz that 2015 world cup
Please no...Not Carter level.... more like a Justin Marshall comparison, a legend but whinge alot.
Not Johnny carrying on validating his stereotype😂😂😂