Train Simulator 2018 - Mallard V.S. UP 844 (RACE!)
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- Опубликовано: 21 мар 2018
- Welcome Back to another race and today it's Mallard V.S. UP844 Who will win???
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The FEF-3 is actually programmed to break if it reaches above 140 MPH. For it to have broken mid-race means that for some time it exceeded 140 MPH, quite impressive for such a big old steamer.
Some things I would like to mention is that the 844 does actually have a higher top speed on level track. Something did happen with 844 in this video, but I’m not asking for a rematch. 844 also had to slow down much sooner because it weighs more than double the Mallard, Mallard being 104 tons and 844 being 223 tons. I’m just happy this race happened even if my all time fav engine lost the race.
i have gotten 844 to get into the 230's on the cliff jump track
The 844 is my fav too
if you consider whats being raced the 844 actually weighs in at 414 tons and mallard at 184 tons.
My fav engine is mallard aswell as the blue tornado locomotive
Timmy Emerine my fav train is big boy
Basic engine physics:
-Larger loco with larger wheels= longer acceleration rate
-Larger loco with large wheels at high momentum= more speed
-Larger loco with a lot of momentum= Longer stopping distance
And whatever happened to 844, I'd say she blew her steam chest. The wide open throttle with probably the most minimal of valve cutoff increased the steam chest pressure which was too much.
Exactly right!
Wut ._.
It wasn't because of the pressure, it was the speed of the pistons and rods - the 844 was designed for 120 mph, but it's modelled so that at more than 140 mph the gear and pistons start to suffer damage. and eventually things like the valves, packing glands, lubrication, etc. fail.
I still think she won only because of the speed she achieved which was greater than the mallards.
@@Smokebox what do you mean, like, here me out I'm a steam locomotive expert and I have no idea what you are saying
Mallard: we’re in the lead!
844: Hold my Beer
That's my train
844 is just stupid.
Adam Cordell plus, 844 never won anyway.
Grand Junction Model Railway it’s a design flaw with the engine. In the end, 844 would’ve won, but it exceeded it’s max speed (mallard did the same thing on its speed record run) all 844 had to do was exceed the limit of Mallards speed and hold it, but that’s not how the program works in the game. I believe in real life, 844 could more than likely beat mallard. If not the T1 5550 definitely will
SHUT UP!!! DONT TAIK TO MY LOCOMOTIVE
That just goes to show you, never underestimate the americans
Exactly
The Americans lost
But American trains are far superior to European train mostly by size but still
@@bruhmomentum7155 american trains are stronger then uk trains and give 844 cheer!
Today our trains suck tho, I wish I could go back to when we were good at making trains.(USA btw I’m talking about)
6:13 - “How do the physics work?”
Still a lot more realistically than in the “Trainz” one. That’s for sure.
Aye for sure
Only thing I like about Trainz is that it has more Steam loco’s than Train Simulator.
@@wtf-hc3tp fax
When the 844 was smoking badly the problem was that the pistons burst so that's why it was smoking badly
Ok that I burst because it was going to fast it's top speed is under 40
It looked like is wasn’t smoke but rather steam coming out of the pistons
The 844 had the vtec kicking in 🤣
Yup, maybe we should call it the Honda Union Pacific 844😂🤣🤔
Amd nitrous
It turned on x-games mode
@@Vyn_Solina LMAO
@@Vyn_Solina Honda Pacific 844👌👌
DAYLIGHT V.S. FLYING SCOTSMAN!!! the most famous American steam engine v.s. the most famous British steam engine!!!
Daylight's not that famous, big boy is, and lazer should give him a 7 second head start or something like that
Flying scotsman isn’t Britain’s most famous locomotive, Scotsman is the world’s famous train!!
Vineeth Mothe She did go to America (and Canada on the same tour) and drove a lot of crowds...
Pinchy 10ftytttttty
Do a race tornado vs sir Nigel gresley
The 844 takes longer to speed up and slow down because of how much heavier it is. This test also shows that the 844 is capable of higher speeds than mallard is, but since it was designed to withstand a max speed of 120mph it cannot run at those speeds safely.
Actually designed to go over 130 mph. Her top was 120.
Shame train simulator doesn't have Class J #611, as she was the pinnacle of American steam technology and was designed to achieve speeds similar to Mallard.
Next race should be 844 and Daylight together vs Big Boy and Challenger together!
more or less a double header race?
Michael Bobb Yup
that would be rad
😀
A Bell UH-1H Huey oh yeah
8:14 Mallard: *coughing* Good God! What happened to you? 844: Ow! I think my pistons have burst! I'm not used to these speeds, but I think it's now taken its toll on me. I guess it's back to the works, again. *The 844 feeling very sorry for himself* Mallard: Oh well. You bloody surprised me when you overtook me, I'm still shocked from your overtake. But I must say, you're not looking good at all. Do me a favor and don't race at those speeds again. I'd hate to see you end up in the scrap heap. 844: Thanks, Mallard. Though still, all respect goes to you. You really impressed me with you're insane speed. Well done, Mallard. I hope we'll get to race again in the future. Mallard: The sooner, the better.
Alexander Hanus Vlogs that steam was the 844 releasing pressure so it wouldent explode from over heating
4449: Ey, how are ye mate? You actually were designed to take speeds of 120 miles an hour, so maybe all of those years of leisure took a toll?
well if you didn't know 844 was designed for 120mph speeds. So she is used to it.
Mallard ran 126 in real life, but they had a problem with overheating the 3rd cylinder, infact right after hitting 126 they had to shop the mallard due to damage
give union Pacific 844 some respect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
844 is a FEF 3 class 4-8-4 and it still operates today! It was built on December 24th 1944.
IT FINALLY HAPPENED!!!!! I’ve asked this for over a year now!! THANKS SO MUCH LAZER!!!
Timmy Emerine You're welcome. I got him to do it and he finally got tired of people asking lol
844 would've won if she didn't slow down, she has over twice Mallard's horsepower and tractive effort, as for in real life top speeds the Union Pacific never recorded it so it remains unknown, the FEFs were built to handle to 120 mph so that's a rough estimate. Also, I can say for certain that she didn't break.
Yes I know, but considering that 844 has much better stats it's safe to say she could go faster.
james bradford
No it doesn't. The Mallard class' top speed is only 94mph. The Mallard did 126 because it went down hill when it set the record. Also, the Mallard broke down when it ran that fast because it wasn't built to go speeds over 95mph. FEF3's did over 100mph on average in passenger service back in the old days and have a theoretical top speed of 130mph.
Plus, the FEF-3 was designed with engineering tolerances to allow it to operate safely at speeds of 120mph. There are unofficial accounts of engineers on fast mail trains running at 120mph or more to make up time after delays. They could also do that with much heavier loads than the typical trains running in the UK. The train that Mallard was hauling when it broke the record (and going downhill) was the equivalent of less than 6 lightweight UP passenger cars. The UP named trains that the FEF-3s hauled would have around 12 cars, sometimes as many as 17.
james bradford
It's not faster and I'm not making excuses just because I'm "American", these are pure facts. No other class of British steam engines could get up to 100mph, except the Flying Scottsman. And first of all, I'm not even American, dickwad. Second, the Mallard can't do 126 on even level track, it could only do 94mph. You're just as ignorant as all the other British steam engine fanboys I've seen, if not, even dumber.
james bradford
A train that isn't streamlined does not affect its top speed asshat. The Mallard did 126 going down a fucking hill, dumbass. You should also try and fix your grammar before arguing. On level track, the Mallard's class of steam engine did 94mph. That's the fastest the Mallard did on a level surface. The fastest 844 has been recorded to do on level surface was 120mph, and it has a theoretical top speed of 130mph.
FIANLLY! I BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I mainly was the first one to ask for it on the laser JET live stream birthday one and thank you for this race LASER JET
Mallard in British accent: Wow! You're bloody bigger than me, but can you keep up with me? 844 in American accent: I can totally keep up with you. I've never retired, never will and I'll prove to you that we American steam locomotives are just as fast as you British engines! In the beginning
Alexander Hanus Vlogs british ones are faster.
duh cause they were lighter and built for speed American engines were built for hauling heavy trains
Michael Bobb true that
N&W 611 could probally beat mallard, that and PRR T1 5550
Actually 844 is faster than the Mallard.
4:13 you can also see the firebox glow from the outside on the real 844!
You should do a race betwen UP 844 and Evening Star (9F)! both were the last steam locmotive built for their respective railroad companies!
That is a great race by the way
The next race should be a bunch of E2's. That'll be cool, for sure! :D
The 844 is one of the fastest steam locomotives in America. People do think that it could have the potential in real life to go over 126mph.
Andredesmoinesew It never will. The fastest it's gone in recent years is 112 mph in the 1970s.
Union Pacific 844 was originally 8444 from Shining Time Station
Would it be possible to see if the GNR sterling single and the GWR Dutch in a race?
two 4-2-2s doing 135% power
Holy shit the 844's lead was incredible for the time it had it
UGGHH SRSLY?
Mallard may be the fastest steam locomotive in the world, but our *44 has got something Mallard doesn't. Style and beauty ^^ Not to say Mallard's not a good looking engine, she is, but 844's is a sigh to behold as well ^^
Agree
What a comeback
Hey, Lazer Jet I Had One Question. What Pass Did You Buy To Get The UP 844?
I just can’t believe u didn’t make a video about THE JI FAMILY
Fu
I believe the 844 has burst a cylinder and Is leaking steam
The cylinder didn't burst, 844's steam chest blew. The pressure in the cutoff valve built up because of the minimal throttle input and caused the valve to blow. The 844 would have been fine if the Steam pressure was lower.
A Bell UH-1H Huey ah I see
Then thank you
a bit late to the party here bit Actually it was steam VTEC
It a good thing that 844 was equipped with smoke deflectors.
The 844 had stimulated to much damage to its pistons and cylinders due to excessive speed or going over 140 mph and since it had stimulated so much damage its stuff to make it work started to fail like its steam valve
844 wasn’t broken it was venting as most steam locomotives do when they have a certain pressure
Hell I remember tearing through the east coast in a prr t1 with 32 heavy weight Pullman at 157 mph for 30 miles non stop
Fireman:SIR!THE STEAM VALVE HAS BURST!WE NEED TO SLOW DOWN!
Driver : WE CAN'T STOP!WE WON'T STOP!
How do you film and edit your videos ?
That speed....I would die from that speed tbh
You have hit 20,000 subs
The Mallard has defended its title as the world's fastest steam locomotive!
Class 43 VS P42DC, just to settle this for once and all.
And then you basically have all e-locs, steamers and diesels fight against eachother. The colonies VS the motherland
There in Train Simulator 2020, the Kenny the UP 844 had false speed it rises up to 180 kph!
LaZeR JET,please do a strenght contest! Which loco can pull more?
Mallard: yes im gonna win
844: hold my beer
8-44 tried her biggest best like no train has ever done in history!
0:35(while your speaking )
844: (American axent)" howdy Mallard"
Mallard : ( British axent ) "oh,hi 844,blimey your bigger then me
844 : "I know,exited about the race "
Mallard :" It might sound weird but I'm really nervous "
844:" Huh why "
Mallard :" Well,do you know daylight"
844:" oh yes,I know her "
Mallard :"well she bet me at the end of a race when I was racing her one day but I'm the fastest steam locomotive in the world"
844: (scoff) "Haha,I'm gonna beet you for the race today,haha"
(At the start of the race )
844:"Wait what how could it be ,oh right Mallard is the fastest steam locomotive in the world "
5:27
844:"Right that's it no more Mr nice engine "
( Some thing of the 844 break)
844:" Huh some how I'm going faster ,Huh I'm over taking Mallard,YEE HAW
Mallard:" Wait what how is that possible I'm the fastest steam locomotive in the world "
6:24
844:" that's weird I'm slowing down,Ow! Owwwww! Bless the US I think I broke somethin' ,it hurts so much ow "
Mallard':" See you later alligator daylight might have Beten me but I've still got the sprit in me "
(Later)
Mallard: "yes I won , whoa ,Huh that's weird , the buffers keep disserpering"
8:14
Mallard: (cough,cough)"Crickey your smoking alot what happend ?"
844:"Ouch,I might have Brocken something,this is the 1st time it happened to me,now I have to go to the works"
( A small tear fell down from one of her eyes and she started crying)
Mallard:"Aww 844 don't cry , you might have lost but there's nothing to cry about,I can take you to the works"
(Mallard gives 844 a tishoo to dry her tears)
(At the end of a video)
844:"Cheers Mallard"
Mallard :"Your welcome and when I was slowing down the buffers here keeps disserpering,I'm ain't joking I'm serious"
844:"Oh my ,sound serious"
Mallard :" 844 after you've been repaird grab your friends,and I'll grab my family we got a mystery to solve"
( 4 weeks later )
Mallard:"humm,well you lot where's only one thing we got to do,we have to jump through the buffers "
Spencer:"What in boxford , Mallard are you crazy"
Mallard:"No I'm not Spencer I'm serious"
844:"Your brother dose have a point Mallard "
Mallard:"Look here it might sound crazy to you but trust me it's going to be perfect,Scotsman,Gorden I want you two to cupple up to me I'm going down"
(Scotsman and Gorden cupple up to Mallard and Mallard was on her way down"
Mallard:"Okay chaps lift me up please"
(The 2 brothers pulled their cousin back up)
All:"What was it down there?"
Mallard:"I couldn't tell, we all need to go down there together,but we ought to make sure we got all the things on the safety list first"
Mallard:" Helmets"
No.60 Jupiter:" ckeck"
Mallard:"Goggals"
4449 daylight:"Check"
Mallard:"harnesses"
Big boy no 4023:"Check"
Mallard:"hooks to attach to the harnesses"
Nickle plate road 765:"check"
Mallard:"And torches on the Helmets"
1225 pure marquet (A. K . A the real polar Express):"check"
Mallard:"Okay chaps get those helmets, harnesses and Goggals on we're going down"
(They got their helmets, harnesses and Goggals on and they were on their way down)
Mallard:"Do you see anything?"
Rest:"no really"
1225:"Huh,look over there"
Spencer:" (gasp) Knott's berry farm,were in California
(They all got back up and took the Helmets, harnesses and Goggals off and headded home)
The end
Well done that took a long time to type
@@rhiaobispo168 cheers
Longest comment ever
Ignore this it is for me
Hey the next race should be the Mallard vs Union Pacific Big Boy .
Awesome video☺
How about a little interesting, can you make your version of the great railway show race?
Hey, you've learnt how to say Mallard this time. Well done. That was a good test, both the same, what the point in doing a test with different settings from the real things is I don't know. I don't know much about how simulators work by why wouldn't you give them both 100% power? Why the 135%? Also, when referring to which locomotive is the best you really need to be comparing them doing what they were built to do ..... they were built to pull trains.
Due to the tremendous power you put them on, 844 had to build alot of steam pressure due to the amount of power set, and the strength of it, once the 844 started to steam up from the pistons that was the steam pressure being relieved as the steam blow down powered up the pistons, it kicked up its speed.
Oliver, I would like for you to do another diesel race but this time do an American diesel race
My favorite race ever
I think you should call these races Train Sim Races or something like that to make it sound official
I'm curious, could the 844 if given the chance to beat the world steam locomotive speed record? Could it possible achieve that?
I got a cool request for a race. The BR86 VS the 14XX.
Do A Race With All The Trains Of Thomas And Friends
Império Pré-Histórico i agree
Every steam engine that went faster than mallard: no record set yet huh
Mallard: I'ma bout to go down hill
How do open a route to show all of your locomotive
Race idea: 9F vs Big Boy, both are heavy goods locomotives, and it is also again UK vs USA.
This is like shooting star is coming through
you should do the pump car vs the pump car
Damn 844 looks like its breaking the sound barrier
mallard: im in the lead WOOHOO
844: EAT MY AMERICAN STEAM YA TINY BRITTIS BOY
5:15 The Union Pacific 844 was just pushing through.
Do Union Pacific 844 vs. Flying Scotsman
Cool
What looks like happened with the 844 is the packing got loose and started leaking steam out of the Cylinder heads. This happens when there is too much pressure to the cylinders and causes steam leaks. The 844 would have easily beaten Mallard and in real life it actually could but Mallard still holds the record.
You should do city of Turo vs Union Pacific 844
next race should be flying
scotsman vs silver link
"So its the Americans and the British Again" Me: I know its the American War Of Independence
Well also war of 1812 and the other little wars against the Americans vs the British
alternate title: LaZeR JET being biased towards mallard lol
844 definitely broke herself, steam was leaking out of the front and back of both cylinders.
I love the big boy, but the Challenger is the biggest steam train that is running currently.
The next race should be against southern 925 against the city of turho
Next race should be cab forward vs mallard, sir nigel gresley, coronation scot, peregrine, silver fox, flying scotsman, big boy, and duchess of hamilton, dwight d Eisenhower, and the virgin pendolino.
Can you do a remake? That 844 smoking thing didn’t seem fair.
I just like the way he says mallard. 😂😂😂 " maallarrd"
Next race maybe a duble tendered mallard and a duble tendered flying scotsmen without wind deflectors
Next race could u do 844 and 9F
Well, UP 844 has 3,500hp but is twice as heavy. Mallard has 2,400hp but is smaller by far. This actually was a pretty tight race.
You should do a 9F vs Big Boy or Challenger
Lazerjet do you know theres a update in train sim world.
If you have the Hiawatha,(the one that was reported to go 125mph), race that one against the mallard.
Make the UP 844 race against the city of Truro!
WWEEEEEE!!!! Look how fast that is!
im pretty sure the amount of presure made that happen to the 844
you should do a pulling race to see what has more pulling power both trains should be of the same size and maybe weight
Mallard: Im fastest and best
844: im not even streamlined and i overtook ya
Mallard: but i still won
844: ...
844: Because it was the first to stop, not to make it to a certain point first. And if you considered that role, I definitely would have won and don't forget I weight over twice your weight so I have to slow down quicker.
Mallard: Ah
Can you do UP 844 VS City Of Truro!
MAGIC BUFFERS MAN
Can you do the panier tank vs the 14xx
that weird noise is when the up 844 was smocking
You should do 9F vs Class 7
AllTrains51009 0 I think it was called f9 not 9f
Penka Genova an F9 is an American diesel engine.
all the winners racing against each other
I think the cylinder head gasket on the 844 had blown
How about Mallard vs Sir Nigel Gresley?
Oliver The Great Western Engine Yeah
Can you plz speed test the 844 and the 261 if you can get that one plz
Next should be the inter city 225 vs tgv
I think I know what the problem is with the Union Pacific 844. I think it had to much power and broke herself when you put 135% power
Can you do the 844 vs city of torru
can you do the tgv vs the acela express
Can you do flying scosman vs the union Pacific 844