How to find the angle of a hip or valley rafter.

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  • Опубликовано: 7 мар 2023

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  • @nikfish1
    @nikfish1 7 месяцев назад +48

    After hours of research, this bloke explains it in seven seconds.

  • @RafterSkills
    @RafterSkills 9 месяцев назад +7

    In carpentry it’s nice to have good angle tools and also to know a fair bit about angles👍

  • @tomnorth783
    @tomnorth783 Год назад +10

    You are correct. Love the Swanson speed square. Such a great tool.

  • @jakeatkinson4913
    @jakeatkinson4913 Год назад +7

    Use framing square for rafters

    • @Jayrealright_
      @Jayrealright_ 8 месяцев назад +1

      Framing squares and speed squares serve the same purpose.

    • @willbell9642
      @willbell9642 7 месяцев назад

      @@Jayrealright_no

  • @m101ist
    @m101ist 2 дня назад

    Also cutting out that slimy green knot at the same time in one cut.

  • @gods959
    @gods959 Год назад +3

    Perfect 🎉

  • @AJRWindowsandJoinery
    @AJRWindowsandJoinery 10 месяцев назад +4

    Top tip 👌

  • @devoncsmith2696
    @devoncsmith2696 5 месяцев назад +1

    How come you are not using the 30 degree angle as you specified at the start of the video on your speed square but 22.5 instead? Is this because the speed square is imperial and not metric?

    • @slabbulkhead6875
      @slabbulkhead6875 Месяц назад +1

      The 30 degree angle is the plumb cut for your common rafter, which you use as a reference to get the angle of your plumb cut on your hip rafter, which ends up being 22.5 degrees.

  • @vitob5898
    @vitob5898 29 дней назад

    Good to know...from now on, every roof I build will be a 40° pitch.

  • @coreyanddorisb.2080
    @coreyanddorisb.2080 Месяц назад

    After dozens upon dozens of videos, he explains it using plain English.

  • @cornhammer
    @cornhammer 4 месяца назад

    Do another video explaining the hip rafter angle to make it known 🤷🏼

  • @fergferguson7370
    @fergferguson7370 6 дней назад

    Can someone translate?

  • @paulwither377
    @paulwither377 2 месяца назад

    Why do you transfer 7 to 7?

    • @loganhutchison25
      @loganhutchison25 2 месяца назад +2

      the first he was on is the angle for your common rafters. because a hip is running 45 degree from the ridge it will be at a different angle. hence why he used the hip rafter angle

  • @TheToolnut
    @TheToolnut Год назад

    A 7/12 pitch equates to 30° 👍🔨🇮🇪

    • @lewisbrotherscarpentry
      @lewisbrotherscarpentry  Год назад +1

      A hip cut 7/12 is 22°

    • @TheToolnut
      @TheToolnut Год назад +1

      @@lewisbrotherscarpentry Apologies that was for a common, 🙄😆

    • @lewisbrotherscarpentry
      @lewisbrotherscarpentry  Год назад +4

      @@TheToolnut don’t worry mate I gathered have a good day.

    • @TheToolnut
      @TheToolnut Год назад +1

      @@lewisbrotherscarpentry Good man, great top there, 👍😁🔨🇮🇪

  • @Dontexxr
    @Dontexxr 7 месяцев назад

    Kinda new to carpentry, but let's say Im doing a 9/12 pitch. Cant I go to a miter saw and subtract 9 from 45 and get 36 degrees?

    • @RedSealCarpentry
      @RedSealCarpentry 6 месяцев назад

      You could, but you would be off by .87 of a degree. That example is a coincidence. It is not useful as a rule of thumb. Example 6/12 pitch. 45-6= 39. A 6/12 pitch is actually 26.57°

    • @Dontexxr
      @Dontexxr 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@RedSealCarpentry I realized this 2 weeks later..... 😂 😂 Thanks my man, appreciate ya. It's nice learning from ppl

    • @RedSealCarpentry
      @RedSealCarpentry 6 месяцев назад +1

      Definitely, I always want to keep learning.

    • @RedSealCarpentry
      @RedSealCarpentry 6 месяцев назад +1

      Sorry, I forgot to tell you my method for your original question. "How do I find degree given a pitch?"
      The formula is: tan^-1(rise/run)
      Example: what is degree equivalent for a 9/12 pitch?
      Tan^-1(9/12)= 36.87°
      Real world: set your speed square or mitre saw just a hair less then 37°

    • @Dontexxr
      @Dontexxr 6 месяцев назад

      @@RedSealCarpentryyuh I looked it up good thing I have a construction calculator.

  • @shuaib8908
    @shuaib8908 6 месяцев назад +1

    if you measure 30⁰ why don't you just cut at 30⁰???

    • @markr1142
      @markr1142 6 месяцев назад +1

      Because the hips and valley rafters are longer than common rafters. They go diagonally from the plate to the ridge so their length increases. A longer rafter with the same rise means a lower pitch. In this case 22.5 degrees for the hip valley plumb cut.

    • @RedSealCarpentry
      @RedSealCarpentry 6 месяцев назад

      To add to the great answer from the original replier, the pitch of the roof is 7/12, roughly 30°. However, he is cutting a hip rafter which uses a different scale on the speed square to account for the longer length a hip rafter has to travel. So he switched to the scale for hip/valley rafters, found the 7 and showed that it was roughly 22.5°
      If you are still curious, they have two different scales because a hip/valley rafter travels to the same height as a common rafter (ridge) but it does it over a longer horizontal distance.
      So, you decrease the angle of rise for those framing members so that it meets the correct elevation.
      Hope that helps

    • @lewisbrotherscarpentry
      @lewisbrotherscarpentry  4 месяца назад

      @@RedSealCarpentry thanks for explaining for others. My RUclips doesn’t show comments annoyingly. 😢

  • @michaeltice4281
    @michaeltice4281 6 месяцев назад

    First 30 and then 22.5?

    • @RedSealCarpentry
      @RedSealCarpentry 6 месяцев назад +1

      So the pitch of the roof is 7/12, roughly 30°. However, he is cutting a hip rafter which uses a different scale on the speed square to account for the longer length a hip rafter has to travel. So he switched to the scale for hip/valley rafters, found the 7 and showed that it was roughly 22.5°
      If you are still curious, they have two different scales because a hip/valley rafter travels to the same height as a common rafter (ridge) but it does it over a longer horizontal distance.
      So, you decrease the angle of rise for those framing members so that it meets the correct elevation.
      Hope that helps

    • @RedSealCarpentry
      @RedSealCarpentry 6 месяцев назад

      So the pitch of the roof is 7/12, roughly 30°. However, he is cutting a hip rafter which uses a different scale on the speed square to account for the longer length a hip rafter has to travel. So he switched to the scale for hip/valley rafters, found the 7 and showed that it was roughly 22.5°
      If you are still curious, they have two different scales because a hip/valley rafter travels to the same height as a common rafter (ridge) but it does it over a longer horizontal distance.
      So, you decrease the angle of rise for those framing members so that it meets the correct elevation.
      Hope that helps

  • @BFishy
    @BFishy Год назад

    I’m not sure how to phrase this question, but what about the angle of the compound mitre off of the pitch angle? If that makes sense

    • @tomnorth783
      @tomnorth783 Год назад

      If you mean, for Jack rafters, it’s always 45 degrees, unless your doing a roof that isn’t a classic 90 degrees, looking down at the roof in a Birds Eye view format.

    • @Valixstone
      @Valixstone 8 месяцев назад

      If using a circular saw, just set your fence to 45° and cut along your plumb cut. Otherwise, (especially if cutting timbers) use your framing square tables. The side cut of hips and jacks lines 5 & 6 with some stair gauges will get that for you.

    • @rocknral
      @rocknral 7 месяцев назад

      Plumb cut is 22, and on usual square hip it's 45. So make this 22 mark, set your circular saw base at 45 and your good to go.

    • @RedSealCarpentry
      @RedSealCarpentry 6 месяцев назад

      If I understand your question correctly, I think you are talking about the degree of bevel for the cheek cut.
      On a true hip rafter the cheeks will be cut at a 45° bevel because a hip fits into a 90° inside corner.
      In the real world it will likely deviate slightly by a degree or two.
      Hope this helps

  • @doncook3584
    @doncook3584 7 месяцев назад

    Um can’t understand the chap. Translate to English

    • @RedSealCarpentry
      @RedSealCarpentry 6 месяцев назад

      So the pitch of the roof is 7/12, roughly 30°. However, he is cutting a hip rafter which uses a different scale on the speed square to account for the longer length a hip rafter has to travel. So he switched to the scale for hip/valley rafters, found the 7 and showed that it was roughly 22.5°
      If you are still curious, they have two different scales because a hip/valley rafter travels to the same height as a common rafter (ridge) but it does it over a longer horizontal distance.
      So, you decrease the angle of rise for those framing members so that it meets the correct elevation.
      Hope that helps

    • @caj4562
      @caj4562 4 месяца назад +1

      He's speaking English?! Where are you from?

  • @kev.dkev.d8712
    @kev.dkev.d8712 Месяц назад

    Never understood why not just mark it all in degrees instead of transferring numbers ???

  • @cornhammer
    @cornhammer 4 месяца назад

    There is a better way but I will keep that to myself 😉