Enhancement - Ascendance & DRE talent needs to be reworked | War Within Alpha
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2024
- Apart from needing a new model, Ascendance & Deeply rooted elements needs to be reworked/updated.
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First, Ascendance must change from spec tree to shaman tree. A node choice with DRE (rework) and a CD reduction in the choice.
Second, change de CD and the duration (3min for 15s). Xuen, is a 2min CD for 20s duration. Metamorphosis, is a 3min CD for 20s duration (can be extend).
Third, DRE proc change, like said in the vid, something about maelstrom spend, a proc for each maelstrom spend or every X maelstrom spend (it can work for elemental too).
Fourth, a little boost damage. When i use Avanging Wrath on a pal, i feel a burst of damage, when i proc Ascendance... i spam more often the same touch on my keyboard.
The idea of a choice with a Lava Lash Ascendance is something nice too.
It feels like the dev in charge of balancing enhancement over the years got bullied by one way back in the two handed windfury days and ever since has had an insatiable hate boner for us.
Also one change I would absolutely love would be to have a maelstrom buffer to avoid wastage. They have the talent that lets it stack to 10 sure, but then it also scaled for each maelstrom spent.. which given the INSANE GCD of enhancement means you basically wanna only use it at as close to 10 as possible to minimize GCDs needed. Problem with that is maelstrom generation is insanely spikey and random which leads to an inevitable loss in damage due to wasted maelstrom. If they just made it so you could bank up to 15, but can only ever spend 10 one thing that would be suuuuuch a quality of life improvement.
DRE proccing more often late in a pack isn't just confirmation bias. While you blast on a big pack, you spend more globals on spending by virtue of the high msw influx. Once mobs start dying and there is less to hit, you spend more globals on Storm Strike which shifts the chance for procs towards the later half of a pull.
That makes a ton of sense, hadn't looked at it like that!
Still hate when it happens!
@@StankieGaming Absolutely, it kinda makes you dare hitting the button when you are left with the one mob still at 30% hp.
Bringing back the old MoP Stormblast attack plus updating the model/vfx could make it more appealing. I like the idea of it having charges, and having a choice node for it to potentially be fun for the elementalist build too. Flinging Lava Bursts with Lava Lash hits sounds cool as hell!
Great video, we need to get our spec reworked! Or tuned!
Ascendance should be 1.5 minute CD with 18 sec duration.
My natural inclination was to gradually switch to warrior for season 4, since I didn't even need all that utility we have with dh tank being able to cc for days. Early ww will have me choose between arms or frost dk unless we get heavy shaman tuning. And I wanna stop looking like a thin waisted stripper mummy while ascending brooooo
I like the idea of giving it charges with a lower duration and cd, and having a choice node for 2 versions for storm and ele. I feel like giving it more punch in aoe would be good since you'd probably be losing out on the juicier primordial wave talents. Maybe something like ss or ll do damage in a line or cone in front of you in addition to what the talents after it do. Just spitballing
I can't even imagine what we would look like if DRE proc'd off of LL... or if TI launched an EB at your current target (or a nova on all active FS targets). That would be fun. Not sure how the tree would look though - we'd be sacrificing a lot to get that.
Now..what about Primordial wave that works with Elemental blast?!
Dragonflight enhancement is the most fun I've had playing the spec since 2h windfury. Right now my class choices are between frost dk and enhancement. I really want to play enhancement and so far stormbringer is really making it easy for me, but if they can fix the issue with Ascendance or DRE then my choice will be made that day. Stormstrike!
I like DRE and I wouldn’t want it removed. I think enhancement needs the same talent layout as Resto where you can select DRE and also have as separately.
Also, ice strike and crash lightning need to do more damage single target so the storm rotation feels a little better
i love DRE and hope they don't change the RNG factor. feels good when u get chain procs
That was the thing in S2 - Storm was fun, but man, your dead spots felt real real bad.
I’ve actually had an idea for ascendence for awhile that I wonder if you guys think could work. Enh is at its weakest when it cant melee its target. We have so many tools that can be used at range, and yet, many require melee attacks to fuel them. Ascendence is a powerful answer for this, but it’s extra range is seldom utilized. I believe this is because of its restrictive cooldown/sporadic proc rate. I can think of 1 boss this expansion where vanilla ascendence was a viable option (Razageth). What i want is an Ascendence that can be there when i need.
My idea is to have base ascendance be togglable. Turn it on when you have mechanics to do out of melee range, and turn it off when its done. For every 1 second you remain in Asc, you gain 10 seconds of cd. With this you can plan your ascendence usages across every fight.
Base ascendance has largely been untouched since its introduction back in MoP. I think it prudent to give it a much needed facelift. Both visually (though I don’t mind its current look, seems a lot of others do) and also mechanically. The CD is simply too long.
Elementalist has made a nice niche for itself that’s really come into its own this patch and that’s great. Though a lot of talent changes have gone a long way to make this happen. Being able to anticipate add phases and save a pwave accordingly feels rewarding.
Something like this is what i want for asc. But instead of adds you’re anticipating it’s moving away from your target. Think of Igira where you’re running out with heartstoppers or soaking a weapon. How nice it could be if you could have a reliable ascendance proc whenever you do these mechs.
I want the range given by Asc to be a strength in pve content for enh. Instead of the afterthought its been for over a decade. Also more interesting to me then simply adding extra yards to all our abilities like they did for ret. though I’m jealous they have this, and think range attacks on a melee feels more at home for enh, I don’t want the same thing for us. I want the tool that was given to us years ago for this reason to be made more viable as such.
Nah. Just get rid of Ascendence and give us more totems.
ya it needs a rewok bad i dropped enchanc in season 3
I'll bet money nothing changes.
I was maining enhancement for whole expansion until recently and compared to other specs its complex , it requires target switching for optimal dps and its hard cap is so frustrating , its not even funny. Checking recently spec is not popular and even in WW it doesn't seem to be in much better position. IT lacks defensives , it lacks good AOE and it also in some other scenarios , where enhancement should excel ( 2-5 targets , cleave ) it loses badly to other specs, even in the funnel in m+!
It is just a fact.
I might be a simple storm strike lad with two brain cells (one to press storm strike other to press forward) but why can't we just remove this choice node and just get both ass and dre. Ass for smoothing your rotation when you're not too lucky or when you need to go out of melee and dre for haha funny 🎰
That would for sure be better then what we have now! I'd still like them to make it stronger tho as even with those changes it would still not be a great cooldown compared to well most DPS CDs.
sry but not again the elemtal skill for enhancer bring back the DF s2 skill reworked
Delete DRE and Ice strike
As a shaman main, I've always hated Ascendence. Mostly because we could have totems instead, and totems are infinitely cooler than a goofy transformation that doesn't feel like it fits the class fantasy at all.
I say get rid of it. It won't be missed.
More buttons to press is what you want.
@@ChildofC-53 what a wild, mindless leap you took
@@Akihito_Kanbara It’s what you want. Shaman already have a million totems, crap survivability, and zero damage.
@@ChildofC-53 you can't be this slow bro...
I said replace Ascendence (a single button) with a totem (a single button). And clearly it would be one that does DAMAGE.
Just TRY to think a little before replying next time.
@@Akihito_Kanbara removing it would reduce damage and adding a totem is stupid af.