Please go thank Theo for helping me out with this video! www.youtube.com/@CombatArmsChannel/videos The original Malian Army training video we're looking at: ruclips.net/video/N1peOkYV6eQ/видео.html
@@Jreg1992 Agreed, CombatArms insight would have been nice if they'd gone into a lot of doctrine comparisons but A. A lot of American units defer to branch or local unit culture. B. He's active duty, which means PA would be livid if he didn't run the release of that by them. As it is the most valuable part for me was Battle Orders part, unit composition and its heritage in France, the rest was just general infantry training drill talking points... to a mil-watcher audience which both is generally redundant and is not what I come to this channel for.
The West wastes money on things like IFVs, APCs, MBTs, SPAAs, SPGs, etc. In Africa, all your land-based operational needs can be met by a Hilux with a DShk, Grom, SPG-9 or ZSU bolted to the back.
@@randominternetguy8735 anti-infantry ✅️ anti-armor ✅️ anti-air ✅️ anti-fortification ✅️ All jokes aside they are pretty rad, but problem with states like this is low leadership and corruption
I've been confused the whole video because you have to be one of the most racially ambiguous men I've ever seen😂 I know the boys in the army pestered you about it non-stop. You could be black, white, middle eastern, latino, central asian, hell all 5 even!
3:50 In Greece we were taught that well trained MGs on the team (ομάδα) level can break off from their half-team (ημιομαδα) and independently seek out a good place to lay down suppressing fire from while the 2 half teams conduct fire and maneuver
That's the accepted standard in many armies I think. The section has one fire element that supports one manouver element, with an assistant section leader in one of them. I thought two manouver elements has been shrunk to one though.
@SusCalvin we alternate between firing and moving of course, but I've heard about the 2 supporting 1 moving concept. I've tried it but it's significantly harder to execute, plus you're bound to leave a sub team without a leader (you can promote on on the spot tho, that's what we did)
This breakdown of the Malian Army structure was pretty engaging and the explanation detailed by Combat Arms Channel was fantastic, keep it up Battle Order. I find the organization of these armed forces and their tactics interesting.
When I was in the Legion Etrangere back in the eighties this would be called a Group de combat. There would also be a Tire d'elite also anti tank 89mm LRAC
13:35 I suspect the reason the machine gunner wasn't doing longer bursts for a number of reasons. Firstly, as speculated, it could be that that marksmanship is part of the aims of the exercise. Secondly, it could be costs as bullets are expensive. Thirdly, there's safety to consider - burst fire and especially longer and multiple bursts reduces control of the weapon and increases the risk of accidentally hitting one of the soldiers in front of him and inside his field of view.
I didn't think I'd have any interest in this video until I started watching it. The methodology of breaking down equipment and tactics is so good, I was hooked in the first minute.
true. Rhodesian security forces literally had one of the best tactics in Counter Insurgency for the lack of equipment they had and the ones they do have being old. It's interesting to see how militaries adapt with what they currently have and how they make use of them
Fighting across an objective in a linear movement, I found it best to use buddy teams as it presents a bigger problem for the enemy. Using one fireteam to provide fires for the movement of the other is much easier to identify who is moving and to where. You can then adjust your defensive machinegun fires towards the group moving and then when they begin supprssive fires, adjust to those you know are moving. Also, unless you are in a platoon attack (deliberate or hasty) using any sort of using one fireteam to suppress the objective while the other team does a sweeping bounding movent to flank the objective is nonsense because your fire teams are not equipped with enough ammunition to suppress a three person LP/OP, which is the only element a squad should be attacking based on the 3 to 1 rule. Also, since it's either a small screening force or LP/OP, you have no real intelligence as to where their parent force is. A three man element is not out on the battlefield all by themselves. You need to be aware of where the next objective is or where the counter attack is coming from.
the Malian army is a Bandaid army, it works for now but they're still plagued by the corruption and lack of leadership that is common in dictatorships armies
OK, actually I'm interested in how insurgents organize their force. ISIS at their peak in Mosul is a conventional army by unconventional means. I'm also interested by how the Tuaregs and JNIM fight. It appears that JNIM in particular made very heavy use of motorcycles as troop transport while the leadership use captured MRAPs as command/combat vehicle.
@@ba3787 if you're familiar with maneuver warfare and it's tactics you'd see how similar Isauce tactics are to it, mobile force with a de-centralised command structure allows for faster decisions on the battlefield, had I sauce been more formally trained they would have been way deadlier, but they fell into the trap of holding Territory which isnt what their force structure was designed for. as for the tuarag and Azawad forces I'm not sure, I don't have much information on them at all to be honest
@@REDI____ Actually it's a bit more complicated than that. The first of the "formalized insurgents" start with Chechens with their "hunter killer teams", which is somewhat a modified version of WARPAC 7 men squad. ISIS has some former Republican Guard and members of the intelligence agency, which also introduced their structure into the force design. A lot of old school Tuareg rebels fought during Libyan civil war, and they used to work as mercenaries for Qaddafi, this means they probably has some element from Libyan doctrine or such.
@@REDI____i s would need the supply and logistics of an actual military which they would never get. No amount of training would make a difference plus they needed to hold territory to fund themselves so it wasn’t an option to just abandon territory
Love both of you guys content! I hope you two will do more collabs in the future. I like the more indebt views on what's going on in some of the clips accompanied by your overal information.
@@Simon_Nziokihe’s gonna laugh because he comes from a country where their military is far more advanced, but I’ve watched this video, they’re tactics and marksmanship isn’t wrong, nor is it funny. If they were given better equipment and weapons, there would be no issue.
Great to see a real life example of tactics and gear. TO&E on paper is useful, but a unit ready for inspection will not survive combat, a unit ready for combat will not pass inspection.
Although I can see the HMG being able to provide supporting fire, either overhead or along one side to effect, I do not see why the LMG is not bounding with B team or as was the practice historically alternating with the riflemen then supporting their bound.
I suspect that the left side support MG was actually performing security, which they could not simulate given their training area. The Sahel is big and flat, and they’re likely expecting to have to defend their flanks against attacks from long distances.
With the greatest of respect, it's easy for serving n vets to pick up people on their drills but we come here for your excellent takes on force structure so good video but much prefer your force structure work it's excellent!
I love watching your videos. But sometimes i get confused how size-levels work (Battalions, Platoons, Teams), and i think there are many people like this. So it would be helpful if you did a video like this.
Excellent collaboration. Honestly, I was surprised by how well they did in this live fire. The MGs definitely weren't employed nearly as well as they could've been and the control for the critical casualty producing weapons, Rpg, pkm, and the heavy mg, was poor. The dismounted pkm would've been cut off (cant shoot) due to the angle he was at to the squad. That being said. The movement by the dismounts wasn't the worst I've ever seen. On first viewing, I didn't notice any flaggin, although the fact that the plm was firing at the point Theo noted its position would be a massive no no in the US. In fact, he'd be taught to take is finger off the trigger, put the weapon on safe and tilt the barrel towards the ground to his left (that's how'd they'd teach it in 2ID anyways). The lane is very short and narrow though. Fire commands (ordering rappid and ssustained rates of fire) didn't seem present to me. This is rather crucial for coving movement.
I have a suggestion, may you make an "Brazilian infantry squad" video??? Since the Brazilian army has modernized their weapons, would be cool a Mec-Inf squad info too!!
For Theo about the helmets without the chinstraps. Those look to be American m1 helmets. Ive never seen anyone use a chinstrap with those helmets. Mainly because there was the myth that if you had the chinstrap on and artillery lands near you the helmet would snap your neck. This practice seemed to have been passed down to the ROK and ARVN who used this helmet and pretty much anyone who was issued this kit in general. Its kinda become sop with this helmet and from my experience with it if you have a good liner it does good job staying on your head even in prone.
I can tell you, in the Canadian Armed Forces, the M1 was most often used with the chinstrap on. There are some exceptions (like the famous picture of the Canadian soldier facing off against a Mohawk warrior during the Oka Crisis), but most pictures you'll see of CAF soldiers will have their M1s with chinstraps on. They were in service for a long time, until the late 90s, so the chinstrap was upgraded in the 80s to a button fastener like the PASGT helmet.
Check talibans training video too in their 4 month ago training video I saw squads and fireteams just like the American ones with grenade launchers and SAW gunners
I guess that’s why the MG stood back in prep for a potential break off. Maybe that’s the goal of the drill. To bait them out of the objective break off and re-engage. Not sure not an expert on this.
Please go thank Theo for helping me out with this video! www.youtube.com/@CombatArmsChannel/videos
The original Malian Army training video we're looking at: ruclips.net/video/N1peOkYV6eQ/видео.html
What about doing video about Indian Infantry unit organisation?
(Edit: I was harsh. This was really well done. I love all y'all) I kinda felt odd about this video.
@@Jreg1992 Agreed, CombatArms insight would have been nice if they'd gone into a lot of doctrine comparisons but A. A lot of American units defer to branch or local unit culture. B. He's active duty, which means PA would be livid if he didn't run the release of that by them. As it is the most valuable part for me was Battle Orders part, unit composition and its heritage in France, the rest was just general infantry training drill talking points... to a mil-watcher audience which both is generally redundant and is not what I come to this channel for.
best eisode yet.
10/10
Do India
As an African, I recognise that any talk about any of our militaries is essentially an indirect ad for Toyota
There is no equal to the Hilux.
Hey, it's better than a humvee.
Hilux Forever, Forever Hilux.
The West wastes money on things like IFVs, APCs, MBTs, SPAAs, SPGs, etc.
In Africa, all your land-based operational needs can be met by a Hilux with a DShk, Grom, SPG-9 or ZSU bolted to the back.
@@randominternetguy8735 anti-infantry ✅️
anti-armor ✅️
anti-air ✅️
anti-fortification ✅️
All jokes aside they are pretty rad, but problem with states like this is low leadership and corruption
Thanks again for having me on! Solid research, breakdown, and editing as usual! 😎🤙
Love ya dude from Canada 🇨🇦 what unit in the army are you in?
Great collaboration!
I've been confused the whole video because you have to be one of the most racially ambiguous men I've ever seen😂 I know the boys in the army pestered you about it non-stop. You could be black, white, middle eastern, latino, central asian, hell all 5 even!
Bury me in a toyota hilux I'm gonna need it in Valhalla 😤
A video on czech infantry squads could be interesting, with the mix of NATO and Soviet influence
1:07 my guy just chilling, leg swinging
my kinda guy
i thought nobody else would notice, i would absolutely do that too lol
3:50 In Greece we were taught that well trained MGs on the team (ομάδα) level can break off from their half-team (ημιομαδα) and independently seek out a good place to lay down suppressing fire from while the 2 half teams conduct fire and maneuver
That's the accepted standard in many armies I think. The section has one fire element that supports one manouver element, with an assistant section leader in one of them. I thought two manouver elements has been shrunk to one though.
@SusCalvin we alternate between firing and moving of course, but I've heard about the 2 supporting 1 moving concept. I've tried it but it's significantly harder to execute, plus you're bound to leave a sub team without a leader (you can promote on on the spot tho, that's what we did)
This breakdown of the Malian Army structure was pretty engaging and the explanation detailed by Combat Arms Channel was fantastic, keep it up Battle Order. I find the organization of these armed forces and their tactics interesting.
They look pretty ruthless lol
Mixing the ww1, ww2 and some resurgent tactics
war, war never changes.
Modern warfare in a nutshell.
When I was in the Legion Etrangere back in the eighties this would be called a Group de combat. There would also be a Tire d'elite also anti tank 89mm LRAC
What is an LRAC? Reccoilless rifle?
What is the Tire d'elite? What did it have to do with a rifle squad?
@@SusCalvini think it means Marskman or directly traslanted "elite shooter".
@@VorpalDerringer lance roquette anti-char. Means antitank rocket launcher.
👍👍 Thank you, sir.@@rasfallai5996
13:35 I suspect the reason the machine gunner wasn't doing longer bursts for a number of reasons. Firstly, as speculated, it could be that that marksmanship is part of the aims of the exercise. Secondly, it could be costs as bullets are expensive. Thirdly, there's safety to consider - burst fire and especially longer and multiple bursts reduces control of the weapon and increases the risk of accidentally hitting one of the soldiers in front of him and inside his field of view.
I didn't think I'd have any interest in this video until I started watching it. The methodology of breaking down equipment and tactics is so good, I was hooked in the first minute.
the smaller less equipped nations are always a fascinating subject when it comes to organization and tactics
true. Rhodesian security forces literally had one of the best tactics in Counter Insurgency for the lack of equipment they had and the ones they do have being old. It's interesting to see how militaries adapt with what they currently have and how they make use of them
“What SL isn’t going to call shotgun”
Truer words have never been said
THIS IS AWESOME!!!! Thank you for putting more light on the Malian Armed Forces and their organizational structure
Agree ❤
I'm freaking ecstatic when I see this episode. Please make more of these, more unknown nation military.
Would love a Battle Order video on the Singapore Armed Forces
Love that you're collaborating with Theo, I've been a fan of his stuff for years and it's top notch.
All squads need a "designated French guy"
Fighting across an objective in a linear movement, I found it best to use buddy teams as it presents a bigger problem for the enemy. Using one fireteam to provide fires for the movement of the other is much easier to identify who is moving and to where. You can then adjust your defensive machinegun fires towards the group moving and then when they begin supprssive fires, adjust to those you know are moving.
Also, unless you are in a platoon attack (deliberate or hasty) using any sort of using one fireteam to suppress the objective while the other team does a sweeping bounding movent to flank the objective is nonsense because your fire teams are not equipped with enough ammunition to suppress a three person LP/OP, which is the only element a squad should be attacking based on the 3 to 1 rule. Also, since it's either a small screening force or LP/OP, you have no real intelligence as to where their parent force is. A three man element is not out on the battlefield all by themselves. You need to be aware of where the next objective is or where the counter attack is coming from.
Would really love a video discussing about the Royal Moroccan's Army ORBAT!
That would be amazing! A pretty modern african force using a mixture of US and French based order of battle? Man I really want that video
the Malian army is a Bandaid army, it works for now but they're still plagued by the corruption and lack of leadership that is common in dictatorships armies
The had the coup BECAUSE of corruption. They have popular support
OK, actually I'm interested in how insurgents organize their force. ISIS at their peak in Mosul is a conventional army by unconventional means.
I'm also interested by how the Tuaregs and JNIM fight. It appears that JNIM in particular made very heavy use of motorcycles as troop transport while the leadership use captured MRAPs as command/combat vehicle.
@@ba3787 if you're familiar with maneuver warfare and it's tactics you'd see how similar Isauce tactics are to it, mobile force with a de-centralised command structure allows for faster decisions on the battlefield, had I sauce been more formally trained they would have been way deadlier, but they fell into the trap of holding Territory which isnt what their force structure was designed for.
as for the tuarag and Azawad forces I'm not sure, I don't have much information on them at all to be honest
@@REDI____ Actually it's a bit more complicated than that. The first of the "formalized insurgents" start with Chechens with their "hunter killer teams", which is somewhat a modified version of WARPAC 7 men squad. ISIS has some former Republican Guard and members of the intelligence agency, which also introduced their structure into the force design.
A lot of old school Tuareg rebels fought during Libyan civil war, and they used to work as mercenaries for Qaddafi, this means they probably has some element from Libyan doctrine or such.
@@REDI____i s would need the supply and logistics of an actual military which they would never get. No amount of training would make a difference plus they needed to hold territory to fund themselves so it wasn’t an option to just abandon territory
Love both of you guys content! I hope you two will do more collabs in the future. I like the more indebt views on what's going on in some of the clips accompanied by your overal information.
do more videos about African militaries
Yeah I want to have more laughs too lmao
@@AbuHajarAlBugatti Aren't you supposed to be the joke? Why not laugh at yourself?
@@AbuHajarAlBugatti What's so funny about their militaries I don't get the joke.
@@Simon_Nziokihe’s gonna laugh because he comes from a country where their military is far more advanced, but I’ve watched this video, they’re tactics and marksmanship isn’t wrong, nor is it funny. If they were given better equipment and weapons, there would be no issue.
@@Simon_NziokiHis YT about section says "Full time troll". He's just baiting in the replies on this video. Ignore him.
I swore an oath today. So perhaps you could do a video about czech medium and heavy mechanised units?
based and czech pilled. stay lucky
why would you care about zaolzie? If you enlisted today, you for sure werent born when it was czech. Do you also care about greater Moravian empire?
Based and kcd pilled
@@flix1717huh?
palacsinta?
The pain of Mali before Nigeria
Very nice breakdown and awesome guest for this video.
Great to see a real life example of tactics and gear. TO&E on paper is useful, but a unit ready for inspection will not survive combat, a unit ready for combat will not pass inspection.
Incredible content ! Please keep up the AMAZING work!
Thanks for shedding light on an African military! We need content like this
Although I can see the HMG being able to provide supporting fire, either overhead or along one side to effect, I do not see why the LMG is not bounding with B team or as was the practice historically alternating with the riflemen then supporting their bound.
Great break down. Will check out CAC now
I suspect that the left side support MG was actually performing security, which they could not simulate given their training area. The Sahel is big and flat, and they’re likely expecting to have to defend their flanks against attacks from long distances.
Would be nice to have the video about croatian infantry units as they have modernized a lot since the 90s
With the greatest of respect, it's easy for serving n vets to pick up people on their drills but we come here for your excellent takes on force structure so good video but much prefer your force structure work it's excellent!
What a great collab guys! Been a big fan of both of yall, so this was a pleasant surprise. Engaging as always, with great insights.
My friend, I would be so grateful if you spoke about the Moroccan royal armed forces and Algerian national popular army. Thank you in advance
Careful with Algeria, algerians are very prideful and would not like an accurate analysis of their military
As an Algerian i would definitely love to see this.
@@parodyclip36 I agree, but it would be interesting to see tbh
@@aimenelhabry6178 yes sure
@@parodyclip36
Always global nobodys who compensate it with fake pride lol
i gotta get me a designated french guy. having a designated french guy sounds useful as hell.
I love watching your videos. But sometimes i get confused how size-levels work (Battalions, Platoons, Teams), and i think there are many people like this. So it would be helpful if you did a video like this.
Lets gooo love CombatArmsChannel
Awesome stuff, as usual! Hope you can also someday feature the Scout Ranger units from the Philippines
Can you do a video on the People's Army of Vietnam Rifle Squad layout during the Vietnam war? It's quite an interesting topic.
Bring Theo back. Awesome breakdown
Glad to see Toyata again in the front lines.
We love theo
Your videos are beyond excellence!
Excellent collaboration. Honestly, I was surprised by how well they did in this live fire. The MGs definitely weren't employed nearly as well as they could've been and the control for the critical casualty producing weapons, Rpg, pkm, and the heavy mg, was poor. The dismounted pkm would've been cut off (cant shoot) due to the angle he was at to the squad. That being said. The movement by the dismounts wasn't the worst I've ever seen. On first viewing, I didn't notice any flaggin, although the fact that the plm was firing at the point Theo noted its position would be a massive no no in the US. In fact, he'd be taught to take is finger off the trigger, put the weapon on safe and tilt the barrel towards the ground to his left (that's how'd they'd teach it in 2ID anyways). The lane is very short and narrow though. Fire commands (ordering rappid and ssustained rates of fire) didn't seem present to me. This is rather crucial for coving movement.
Can you do a Philippine Infantry Squad loadout
basically a regular US army squad.
Thank you for more African content! Big fan of some of the smaller countries content
I have a suggestion, may you make an "Brazilian infantry squad" video??? Since the Brazilian army has modernized their weapons, would be cool a Mec-Inf squad info too!!
RPG guy just chilling
For Theo about the helmets without the chinstraps. Those look to be American m1 helmets. Ive never seen anyone use a chinstrap with those helmets. Mainly because there was the myth that if you had the chinstrap on and artillery lands near you the helmet would snap your neck. This practice seemed to have been passed down to the ROK and ARVN who used this helmet and pretty much anyone who was issued this kit in general. Its kinda become sop with this helmet and from my experience with it if you have a good liner it does good job staying on your head even in prone.
I can tell you, in the Canadian Armed Forces, the M1 was most often used with the chinstrap on. There are some exceptions (like the famous picture of the Canadian soldier facing off against a Mohawk warrior during the Oka Crisis), but most pictures you'll see of CAF soldiers will have their M1s with chinstraps on. They were in service for a long time, until the late 90s, so the chinstrap was upgraded in the 80s to a button fastener like the PASGT helmet.
@@kutter_ttl6786 Why was that because almost anyone ive met with experience with that helmet never ever used the chinstrap.
Please review Zambia 🇿🇲 next
Nice!
Can you do one for Royal Cambodian Army, please!
Excelent video!
Can you do some stuff on the taliban? I know the Second Resistance would probably appreciate it
Neat collab
I really like how it's RPG 'guy' or BAR 'guy.' Rather than operator or specialist. Much more personable lol! 😂
You guys should definitely checking out the structure of the royal moroccan military 🇲🇦
The content the people want- thanks!
Could you make a video on the Moroccan army? I heard it’s tactics are a mix of the US and France and I want to see something like that
Check talibans training video too in their 4 month ago training video I saw squads and fireteams just like the American ones with grenade launchers and SAW gunners
@BattleOrder Would love to see your style of analysis done on a completely fictional army just for fun. Maybe Helldivers or Starship Troopers? ^^
"Do you want to know more?"
Those foregrips!
The rifle in the thumbnail is a Yugoslavian (Serbian) M-70B1, their version of the USSR AKM.
"Those machine guns need to do longer bursts", bullets are expensive not everybody has the US army's budget 😜
Please do more unknown countries like Mali 🇲🇱
God i wish you would do Armee 61 of swizerland as it was the biggest army of swizerland with 880'000 soldiers
Day 2 of asking a video on Indonesia military
Would be really cool if you did morebon african army's like algeria.
Can you do one for Pakistani or Indian army.
Could you focus on Burkina Faso next please
Great colab. Nice to see the battle order in use
The Egypt army deserves a video oen of the strongest armies in africa.
Can you cover the Tatmadaw in future videos?
I liked this
Bro loves Mali 😭🙏 (not hating btw just fascinating to see you fixate on this country)
2 videos is love for Mali?
@@chaosXP3RT well yes
@@Bellee702 He has 5 videos on the USA and several on France and Russia
Can you please do the Egyptian Army next
Wouldnt that vehicle be kind of a sitting target? Seems like they are super close but not armored to provide cover.
Can we get one on Nigeria special forces?
Cool
Warrant officer? So thats where they all went
Make a video on Indian army structure
Do british light/heavy mechanised platoons
Do the Philippines next
While he's talking about uniforms: Does the one guy on the right have a toothbrush in his left shoulder thingy webbing? or do i just see things? :D
Probably for maintenance/helping to clear dust or other debris out of his weapon.
I noticed that the soldiers in this video and other images i saw are wearing Vegetato Italiano camo, is there any reasons behind this camo usage?
EUTM Mali legacy - Italians were in that mission.
Hullabaloo, and howdy doo! Musty prawns, and Timbucktu! Yeltsy-by, and hibbety-hoo! Kick ’em in the dishpan! Hoo hoo hoo!
Shouldn't the RPG and the PKM guy have a rifleman with them with extra rockets/MG ammo? At least the RPG guy, since the rockets are so bulky?
You should do a video on the broken modern Armenian army
I guess that’s why the MG stood back in prep for a potential break off. Maybe that’s the goal of the drill. To bait them out of the objective break off and re-engage. Not sure not an expert on this.
Bro dont forget about Brazil pls.
2:49 Tom Brady
They have tactics?
When are you going to talk about Nigeria army
Do morocco next
can u do a vid on mexican marines?
Can you do iraq next please
Can you do Filipino army armor battalion?
AK is always Bad Guy's rifle.