1968 Ford Mustang gets a Granada transplant. Will it run, or is it junk?
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- Опубликовано: 23 май 2024
- My buddy has a 1975 Ford Granada that he said I can pick up cheap to transplant into our 1968 Mustang. Was it worth the effort?
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I'll do my best. I'm probably to old to change anyway 😆
That Dodge with the stars and red white and Blue NEEDS to be done for the channel! Heck yes!
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History. In early 1955, Elvis bought his first Cadillac, a 1954 Fleetwood Series 60, which was the color pink. The car provided transport for Elvis and the Blue Moon Boys, but after the failure of a brake lining, was destroyed in a roadside fire between Hope and Texarkana, Arkansas, on June 5, 1955.
1954 Cadillac Series 75 Fleetwood Limousine
Elvis bought a 1954 Fleetwood Limousine just before going on a tour in it in March 1956. Originally blue, he had it painted yellow.
@@flatbrokegarage its a fake
@notoriousbigdog you very well could be correct. That's why I asked, not said it was Elvis Presley's limo. The only thing we came up with was it could have been an Elvis Presley corporation car. We think they could have ordered a few limos and had them in major market city's (Vegas, Memphis, Atlanta, and such) so Elvis had a car he liked everywhere instead of shipping one car. Or.... I'm totally wrong 😆 Thanks for watching
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Hello from Los Angeles, I had to laugh and immediately subscribed as soon as I saw your channel name “Flat Broke Garage”, even before I watched any of your videos! Yes, we’ve all been flat broke some time in our lives.
Thanks for the sub! So glad you enjoy the channel and name. 😆
Wow! Great job cleaning that engine out. I would've ran away after pulling that manifold. Can't wait to see that 68 back on the road!
Me too! I was hoping to do a video this weekend about dropping it in. Now I'm kinda kicking ideas around. I'll come up with something. Thanks for watching! More to come
I love your Junkyard Digs T shirt. Lol Hopefully we can see him wearing some Flat Broke swag...your editing is just as good..nonetheless
Thanks! Mook gave me a few shirts. I helped them out with some Hot Rod Power Tour stuff last year. Very cool people
OMG!!! I can't believe you guys cut up and crushed a perfectly good Ford Granada. You'll have to answer for this on judgement day. Meanwhile, I'm still enjoying the channel.
😆 hopefully, the Ford gods will still smile down upon me because the Granada went to a greater good 😆 glad you enjoyed the video
I would probably do bearings,intake, carburetor. Replace timing chain and put it back together. Cant wait to see more!
That's the plan. Turns out it was a cam bearing
I would just clean it up, throw a few new parts at it and drive it. Let that machine shop bill come down a bit and get the 289 ready. Love the channel.
That's my plan as of now. I have it pulled down and waiting on parts. Thanks for watching!
My thoughts exactly…!!!!
Find an engine that the owner took pride in its maintenance. Pull the valve covers to see the condition. If it's clean you know it was serviced when it was supposed to. Then you know you will have piece of mind knowing it will serve you well. By the time you put into fixing that motor and the cost you.can find a good used one to drop right in. Good luck
Something I should have done with this engine before removing it. Guess I was in a rush. That being said, I don't have a lot of money actually in the engine. Thanks for watching!
New subscriber, this is how it’s done. Find what fits from other cars and use it that’s how iv always done it, never had the money to just throw at a car…..!!!!!
I totally agree. Use what you have
I would do a rustoration on a Granada if I ran across one. It hurt me to see that one get destroyed.
Couple of months ago I ran across a Ford Granada that was excellent shape it had claimed less than 20,000 MI. The Granada woods for sale and it is an episode I did on my RUclips channel. You can check it out if you like it has the details about the car. I don't know anything more than what was listed. If that will help you
The entire cowl and fire wall were rusted out. Water and pine needles just rotted it away
Wish I had that engine 😆
@@flatbrokegarage anything's rebuildable. But does it make any sense to rebuild it? And of course on Granada like your buddy says that's about 2% of the population in the car world. By the way I found one that's reportedly and I was less than $20,000 I think at 9000 original miles and it could be true. And I think it was 10 or 12,000 asking price. For what it's worth
I got one light blue 2 door. Type granada in on marketplace
Since you got it all tore down I would do a just like like you said do a cheap rebuild and put it the Mustang and have some fun!
I'm elbow deep in it now 😆
Awesome hope it goes smoothly for you
My kinda channel love it man👍😊
Thanks! I appreciate it
Really good video really enjoyed thanks
Thank you for watching!
Another good video. Don't worry about what other people say on here. Do it your way.
Thanks! Yeah, this is still going to be a budget build. If it makes it, that would be great. My moto is "Less bad is better"
@@flatbrokegarage Yep
Great job Bill, love to see them old cars,Wisconsin doesn't have junk yards like that.FHP
I'm in Wisconsin this weekend. Just talked to Dennis last night! Wish I had your #
Well it's great to see you moving forward. There's always a hiccup or two as we travel down the road. Working on a project.
Yep, I'll figure something out
Years ago I did basically the same swap to a 66 rustang, the air tube on the back of the head I screwed it in tightly cut the head off threaded the inside 3/8 and bolted the transmission dipstick tube to it
Anything to get this running for my daughter
I thought my 1968 mustang coupe project was a pain .. I feel it! My 302 was beyond repair so I opted for a 390..
Man, I would love a 390. But for now I'll stick with the 302. Maybe something for the winter
@@flatbrokegarage I am slightly regretting the choice as finding a set of Tri Y headers here in the UK is impossible…
@fordson40 the Europe factor is a big one to consider for sure. I sent some trim pieces to Queensland Australia for a buddy that just couldn't locate them anywhere down under
Hah I had a "79 Granada myself back in the 80's up until i sold it in the '90's. Good choice for parts for that Mustange a very good starter kit to get it to run. Thanks for the video
Best mustang swap kit ever 😆 glad you enjoyed the video
Oh yes, the tar pits of neglect. Spent a whole day doing exactly what you did. Oil pressure was never really danger-low so I took the chance, bearing in mind my engine will have to get completely done anyway. Cleaned as much as possible (including a look-see inside the oil pump), flushed it with flushing oil and then used cheap regular glup for 100 Km (am in the EU lol), drop and repeat for another 500 Km, drop and then fill with proper oil. Oil pressure is over 20 psi on idle (600 rpm) when hot and goes up to 45 at 1200, 50 when cruising at 2500, engine seems to run cooler and we do get AL temperatures in summer here in Austria. It does have a couple of noisy lifters, the timing chain I'm sure needs doing but It isn't going to be thrashed so I think it'll live like this for another season or two and then it will have to come out and be done (subject to what I find inside). Maybe it's worth your while to just drop it in the car (not all wasted time because where that 302 goes, so would the 289) and start it to see whether there are no bad noises. If none, it'll at least get your daughter a car she can enjoy for the time being.
But as Derek from VGG says, I'm an idiot, it worked in my case but that don't mean it will for you😀
See, you've given me some inspiration. I just had to walk away and end the video to have some reflection time 😆 Think I'll finish pulling it down and reassess. Thanks for watching!
@@flatbrokegarage well your vids give me some inspiration too, so we're even:) One more idea: Perhaps you could quickly rig an engine cradle for starting and testing before struggling with putting it in the car? Run it for 15-20 minutes with oil/water gauges and some old radiator, it'll soon let you know whether it's worth bothering with...
I live in Arkansas we have serious rusted cars out here.humidity heat and constant rain.and snow.not to mention grass that grows to seven feet high
This car the cowl was full of pine needles and water. Literally rusted the entire firewall away. The hood fell off
those are casting numbers and the year references the FIRST year of that particular part...NOT the year it was manufactured
New subscriber...great content
@jimk4267 good info, thanks! And I appreciate the sub!
Hey there I would just listen to your gut Bill well that stinks there is always a light at the end of the tunnel I well would out eventually keep up the good work buddy
Well I'm this far, I'm just going to pull it down and see what I have
Looking good. Nice pile of parts. Nice video. I have seen other blokes using cheapest oven cleaner spray to clean engines. I think you have dollar stores there.
You know... I never even thought about that. 3 dollar stores with in a 6 mile range. Great idea!
I really don’t like the fact you’re cutting up a Granada but I am biased. My daily driver is a 1980 ford Granada ess coupe with a 302 and I’m in love with it.
I understand, I actually drove one to school for a year. My dad's hand me down. Don't feel bad the entire cowl and fire wall was rotted out.
I would pull the bearing caps and see how the bearings look. If they aren't into the brass, I would get it as clean as possible, reassemble and run it as a temporary engine. Save the money for the K code.😄
Actually the crank and thrust washer aisle good. Think it just pitched a rod bearing. I'll know more tomorrow
New bearings and timing chain at least, to be able to move car around. After you get the 289 done, use this engine to thrash and beat on to see if you can blow it up.
We think alike 😆
Yeah, I’d probably continue disassembling and inspecting that 302 and try to determine what the least amount I could “get away with” doing to it. Personally, I always go into a junkyard engine assuming I am going to be buying (at least) a cheap rebuild kit for it (rod, main, and crankshaft bearings and gaskets). That can almost always be had for few hundred dollars or less. Timing chain should be cheap, too. Cam would be a bummer, but probably won’t kill your budget? You’re correct. It is the machine shop charges that kill you and if your getting into boring and oversized pistons, turning the crank, and reworking the heads (not to mention dealing with a thrust spacing issues, which I have only ever had to deal with on old, air cooled VW engines), I am just gonna load all these engine parts into some cardboard boxes and write “future project 302” on them, shove them under the bench, and go back to the “market place” fishing hole for other engine opportunities! Like you, I am not feeling optimistic about this motor right now … but, sometimes, you keep digging and find out it’s not so bad!
That's my plan so far. I probably have about $150 in the engine if you figure everything else I salvaged from the car. So if it toss a few hundred at it probably wouldn't break the budget
You've already got it almost all apart take it down and just go through it have the heads done if it has a ridge on the cylinders get a ridge remure a hone out the cylinders and have the block checked out and boiled and do what you do lol
That's my plan. Fingers crossed 😆
You have an engine anyway, so freshen it up and drop it in for the time being, it would be interesting to see how it turns out.
I'm going to finish pulling it down this weekend. Hopefully, it's not much worse
Repair what you can that will make it as safe as possible and use it until you find a better one.
I think it's going to be okay. So far, the crank and thrust washer look good.
Oh man that bites! Maybe check out the crankshaft and if you're lucky just put new bearings in it intake carb timing chain and stop there since you are going to redo the 289 anyway 😮
I have the engine apart now, and I think the crank is good
@@flatbrokegarage That's great ! I have done a cheap patch jobs on those old 302's and they always seem to work..
Poor Grenada 😢 i like those cars
Me too, my father bought one in 1975. I have fond memories of the garnada. This one was tost
That passenger side header looks like the Mustang II header. I have those heads on my 66 Galaxie with a mild cam, they do the job for a driver quality. I might upgrade them, but it is a 4 door, I think it is good for what it is. I would rather put my money towards my 71 Cougar.
Yep, I so get it. I'm slowly trying to finish my 71 Torino with a ground up restoration that takes the tall dollars. So I really don't want to chuck a bunch of cash into this at the moment
You southern guys have no idea what a rusty car looks like. Come up north of the border, you'll see rusty cars.👍
I'm originally from the Chicago area. I even drove a salt truck in the winter. 😆 i just retired here about 6 years ago, and I couldn't believe how nice everything is! Now, when I go back up North I can't believe the rust. Thanks for watching!
If you go look at some of my other videos you'll see I've saved some cars no one would even consider saving. Such as a 1980 Pontiac Sunbird, and a 1970.5 ford falcon 4 door with a 6 cylinder engine that I actually rebuilt. I just bought 2 more cars that most would send to the crusher. So, yes. I have saved some too
Oh man! Great name! Hope you don't mind if I steel that 😄
You think you got rusty cars? You ain’t seen anything until you see what we got here on the southwest coast of Cornwall
Minnesota weather beats up on cars pretty bad too. Good heavens.
Oh boy
Did the same thing years ago trashed a running Grenada to v8 swap a 90 foxbody 😂
It had almost everything I needed. Works out well
I'd pull it apart, inspect it and if possible, just rings, bearings, timing set and gaskets. However, finding those pieces of bearing, I'm betting the crank may be damaged.
Yeah, not a good find. Those were my original thoughts. I didn't have much into the engine, so cam, timing set, and gaskets was the plan. Now I have to see the extent of the damage before I order anything
I would pull pistons an crank out an take cam lifters ,chain .use your power washer an clean that block an heads up .blow dry it spray it with wd40 dingal ball hone it lap the valves new seals an springs an run it
Just pulled it down today (video was made last week). The thrust washer is fine. Crank looks good. I think it's a rod bearing. More coming later
the numbers are casting numbers there should be a date code that would look like 7b7, 7 for year b for month (feb) 7 for day of the month, ford used the same casting (C30E for example) number for several years and then broke them down by the date code
Good to know. Thanks!
That engine looks like it had penzoil in it all its life
Had something nasty in it 😆
Leave the good engine at the shop and if you can put your third engine together cheaply it will give you something to do while the good money is being spent on your other engines.
That's the plan for now. Just pulled it down. Crank is good. Looking for some better parts
Man the valve guides and umbrellas in freaking cam bearings or Garbage they're burnt to a crisp it's got that plastic coated timing chain garbage add pull it completely apart clean it all up put a timing set the gears in it main bearings rod bearings put a set of rings on it put high volume oil pump on it then when you're ready you were 289 to go in there you could sell that 302 is a fresh rebuild
Yep, I'm just going to do a garage build it turns out the bearing material was a cam bearing
Yeah, no wait on the 289. In my eye's that engine is scrap unless you did a full machine shop rebuild on the unit. Just my thoughts on the subject.
Yep, I want to do the 289 right
If that 302 needs anything more than rings, bearings, gaskets and a timing chain, you're going to be throwing away good money (that could go towards the 289) after bad. The condition of the crank and cam will be key.
The crank is good, just brought it to my buddy's place. Just a basic freshen up maybe some good used heads and we are off
Do a mild rebuild can always use it for something else.At least you'll know what you got.
Yep, waiting on parts, have it all pulled down now
Personally I'd have got a 5.0 or 5.8 from a newer truck with a roller cam. The roller cam and EFI help make engines last longer than carb 70s engines. That's part of the reason junkyard swaps are a thing now.
Your elbows deep in it already may as well find out how bad it is... FYI junkyard LS swaps don't look inside the engines.
You are right. I just sold a 1998 f150 with the roller 5.0 and aod right before I bought this. I should have kept it
@@flatbrokegarage I'd find one that was wrecked or rusted frame for parts they are cheaper and the funds from selling the good truck could fund the mustang.
poor mans rebuild check rods and mains hopefully STD throw set of bearings and rings lap in the valves and let it go then will have a pretty good motor when finished with it could go in another project
I'm right with ya. It turns out it was the front cam bearing. Just buying the basics and going to toss it back in. Thanks for watching
The bad thing about that motor is now you found them chunks of metal you need to go through it because it may knock if you put it together as is so yeah I would just look for a motor that I can hear run unless it's going to be a permanent motor then I would say build the motor you got then it should be trustworthy
I actually drove the Granada. Ran fine. Just the luck of the draw
@flatbrokegarage Well that's true and in life I never been very lucky but yeah I would give it a good once over even remove the heads so I could see the piston walls
Yep, spoiler alert, I have it all apart. Looks like it was the cam bearing. I'm going to do an engine stand rebuild. The crank looks good
You've obviously got a core unit. Doing the basic rebuild, aka dongle ball hone job, if it was me, I'd do the strictly basic rebuild. The sludge alone tells you that. Finding a big chunk of the bearings in the pick up confirms my diagnosis. A set of gaskets, timing chain, oil pump, cam kit, should be, at the most, you'll need. Putting a better bump stick, aka cam, is a given with the bearing piece you found. You can swap the springs out for a batter set while you have the heads off. Use the set of heads you have. Give it a little bit of bottom end. Having the trans rebuilt while it's out, gives you a chance to get the right convertor for the cam. No, I'm not saying hot rod the engine. I'm saying make it reliable and hearty. Emissions heads were crap heads. I know plenty of guys that tried to make those work and nobody I know of ever managed to do it. The e7's can be port worked to drag a little bit of flow from em. I can name off about a dozen companies that make good aluminum ones that flow monster numbers. But you want a tame, street motor. What I named off for parts, will get plenty out of a 302. They're the friendliest of the Ford engines to make run well. While it's at the machine shop, have them clean everything. Don't skip cleaning the head bolt holes out with a tap. Makes torquing the heads down a ton easier, same with the mains.
Think that the direction I'm heading
If it was me I'd tear it down ur this far in already
I definitely going to finish taking it down. Mainly because I want to see what happened. Kinda hoping I can still do a lowbuck rebuild
Buddy if face book market place or call that guy ya got it from see if he has a alternative
I just jumped into this now. We will see how bad my choice is 😆
You want to see rust come down near galveston they rust in half.with the engine like others have said look at bearings see what they look like remove the heads look at cylinder walls go from there go episode
I understand, I'm from the Chicago area originally
Oh sorry. I'm commenting while watching 👀 😅 In conclusion...id probably scrap that engine for another. Risky...make it a one and done. If you mess with that one any further, youll be pulling your hair out. Lol cheers
I guess now that I'm so far apart with it I may as well finish taking it apart. I kinda want to know what happened 🤔
@@flatbrokegarage oh for sure. Are you gonna show us? That is good YT content. 👍🏻
That motor looks gunky! At 17:38, you asked for a tshirt? I'll send you one from my collection! Your choice, Bob's Clam Hut or Ted's Pizza!
I'll take any t-shirt. I was going to give someone a shirt for a hoist 😆
@@flatbrokegarage lol! I'll send you a care package then.
The inside engine does look better
Yeah, it's a plus
I have a nice running 289 I will sell you for a decent price. I like your channel Just subscribed
Where are you at?
@@flatbrokegarage NE Florida
@EdwardHutchins wish you were closer. Dang
They have inserts for those heads to eliminate the smog tube no don’t use those heads
Still looking for GT40 heads
anytime you find metal in the oil pan is not good, too bad because you guys did all that work pulling it out,did you pay for the combo?,find a good running engine they're out there even though it shouldn't be too hard to rebuild, that thing was not properly cared for.
I have it apart, super dirty, but the crank and cylinders look good. The bearing material was the front cam bearing. Think I'll try to freshin it up.
I would find a another used engine you can hear run.save you alot of money and time
So its a johnny cash special kinda engine/ trans 😄
See... you get it 😆
Can you find an explorer 5.0? Those are good running motors with roller cams, usually pretty cheap
The problem with the vehicles here is they have no rust be well over 200k miles
@@flatbrokegarage ya, take a look at Pennsylvania junk yards, you can get shipping through Fastenal really cheap as long as it’s on a pallet
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Gus Gus! Yes, we subscribe to their channel. Part of the reason we adopted him Elmer
@@flatbrokegarage hahaha you're good sir. That's right tight community. That's cool.
What's wrong with the 289 you already have?
It's just tired. It ran fine when pulled. Smoked a bit, low oil pressure. You know, it's 50 years old. Problem is being a true hipo 289 (rare engine) it truly needs to be properly rebuilt, and I don't want to drop it in as is and make it worse
Great video if can't afford a Ford at least Dodge a Dodge period
You have an boat achor. If it was for my daughter I would find a better motor
I have the motor I want to build for it. Just debating on the time and cost at the moment.
Save the duraspark module an harness off the old car
Yep all new. Kept it all
1974 granada 302 129 hp. 😢
Yeah, kinda a pooch. When I get enough scratch up it will get that hipo 289
Wait a minute 1 owner car older lady??? Grandma didn't take care of her Ole Ford did she bad grandma 😅
Yeah... was not the best at oil changes 😕
That engine looks like junk. I would scrap it and find another. But the car it came out of that didn't look that rusty to me. You gotta see the cars up here in northern Michigan. You go.
On marketplace, almost all the ADS say the same thing rusted. Frame rusted frame rusted frame.
And yet they still think they're sitting on a gold mine.
The bad rust on this you can't see in the video. Water and pine needles got into the cowl and vents and rotted the entire frie wall and cowl out. The hood literally fell off
that is not Elvis's car in the turning rust video google it Elvis's cars were 1955/1960's Cadillacs who ever told you it was lied it might be a old tour car built to look like his limo but its not his car or it might be a Elvis lookalike's car just google it that is not an Elvis car
The best we can come up with was it could have been an Elvis company car. What I mean is they probably had several limos built to Elvis spec's then kept in major market cities, so when Elvis or band members came to that city, they had their own private limo. I could be totally wrong too. Thanks for checking it out though
History. In early 1955, Elvis bought his first Cadillac, a 1954 Fleetwood Series 60, which was the color pink. The car provided transport for Elvis and the Blue Moon Boys, but after the failure of a brake lining, was destroyed in a roadside fire between Hope and Texarkana, Arkansas, on June 5, 1955.
1954 Cadillac Series 75 Fleetwood Limousine
Elvis bought a 1954 Fleetwood Limousine just before going on a tour in it in March 1956. Originally blue, he had it painted yellow.