@@MakersMuse They actually remind me of the action of sidewinder snakes, which are specifically adapted for moving quickly across sand. I wonder if a wheel design emphasizing this similarity even more would perform even better. Maybe if each wheel only made contact with the ground along half of the left-right sweep? You'd probably need a six-wheeled robot to maintain stability with that though.
@@BiologyTube I think it would also be a good idea to use a single motor, drive train and differentials, so the wheels always stay the same compared to each other. Might make the wobbly wheels better, right?
And failing to understand that a wheel has to be enough thick and enough rubbery so the coefficient of friction is correct. Sick sad world where even "intelligent" people are dumb.
@@romarainpublic6735 yh I dont think so wobble wheels are applicable on big scale vehicles. We could just use rigged or tank-like wheels to roam sandy terrains
@@XanderProduction There is a reason wheels are the way they are, weight! being completely vertical puts the force directly down, also if you want to really test out wobbly wheels and the effect they would have on an automobile remove the weights balancing ur tires off the rim and tell me how it rolls. When a wheel is out of balance which is exactly what a wobbly wheel would be it throws the car all over at higher speeds very rough ride indeed.
Sand is an incredibly challenging surface. In fact every type of surface has its own dynamics. Mud, ice, asphalt, concrete, snow, pebble, dirt, cobblestone, and any of those with standing water on them are all going to show dramatically different results. Who knows maybe prongles are killer on cobblestone in amazing ways.
I'm not interested in drawing this up, but I welcome someone else to: You want more ground clearance to avoid bottoming out. You need fins for traction without being so deep they creating a rotary shovel. Finally, you want to spread the surface area of the wheel across the largest possible ground surface to prevent the wheels from sinking or digging into lose sand, similar to a snow shoe. Create wheels with 3 spokes, each ending in a kind of curved snowshoe (like you had a full wheel but cut away everything except a few ovals of tread). Use the largest gaps between the snow shoe hatches that can still can compact loose sand without letting a lot through. Elongate a few of the hatches on the snow shoes just enough to dig into sand, but no more. Think about which diagonals to use for the traction fins. I'd lean toward using the same angle on the two diagonals, but reversing it for the adjacent wheels. Other options include having the left match and the right match, and they can either create an arrow, pressing sand in, or a V pressing sand out. The last option is matching the two front, and matching the two back, but I fear that would create a tenancy to pull the front and back in different directions and encourage spinning in place in certain situations. Likewise, think about the contact pattern as the wheels rotate, so that you always have 2 snow shoes down, and curve the leading and trailing edges of the snow shoes so they contact smoothly and not on edge, particularly when starting from a stop.
I was.about to start a thread on a similar theme. - Larger diameter to get more ground clearance. - Bigger width to span more sand - Mesh surface to still have similar surface area despite larger diamwter and width. - Some regular "blades" that can shoot sand backwards.
While I thought the same, creating wheels for optimal traction on sand wasn't the point of the video. However I'd love to see it done too in the future.
Oh hey I said the same thing ^_^ the reflection and shape definitely help that look. I also was curious as to how all of these would preform in water... I mean Amphibious vehicle is certainly a bonus.
nothing wrong with reinventing the wheel. its they only way society improves. i sure dont want stone wheels on my car, that's just not going to work well. i certainly dont want a steam engine in my car either. (actually that would be cool but no thanks) i dont want to learn Morse code to communicate over long distances either so I'll take my smart phone instead. people who say "dont reinvent the wheel" are anti progression.
I’d be really interested in seeing how these wheels perform in water as an amphibious vehicle. There’s something about the side to side motion of the wobble wheel that makes me think it could produce some interesting results.
6:04 the fact that it's always pulling to the right might be due to the direction (nap) of the woven carpet. Because of the way carpet is produced sometimes force the "hairs" of the carpet in one direction. Stroking the carpet from different angles you might be able to spot a different resistance.
Regarding the “pull to the right” That’s because of the carpet pile direction. I’ve notecard that many time with a vacuum. You push it one was and the carpet pushes its to the side. Go the Other way across and pushes the same cardinal direction.
Also controller seems to be unfair on wheel torque. In 13:28 You can clearly see that on left side there is not uniform control of motors. Rear one which has traction spins, but front one which is in the air doesn't. As a system without traction or torque control, both wheel should spin with front one being faster. For me it looks like there is not enough power in battery to provide uniform power delivery to all motors, or the controller is doing bad job.
@@openlink9958 it mainly gets stuck because of the bottom of the body hitting the ground rather than the wheels losing all traction or ability to pull up the hill, then because the body is stuck the wheels try to drag the body across the ground, but instead of the body moving it just moves the sand out from under the wheels, digging a hole and bogging itself down.
What I was going to say, the failing point of all wheels were the body bottoming out, maybe if he made a platarm capable of bigger wheels and a much higher ride height those sooner could fair better (probably won't help that much, but hey, at least it will be their actual fault when the vehicle bogs =P)
It might be interesting to adapt these wheels to an off-road platform. I made one a few months ago that might work. I can't post the link in the comments, but you should find it if you search for “Off-road robotics platform (rovers)” on Thingiverse.
Something like a "screw" wheel or a "frill" wheel might improve on the spoke wheel. Think the shape of a jester's neck ruff. Like a combo of the wobbler, prongle and spoke.
I feel like the bigger problem was the body getting stuck in the sand, rather than the wheels. If you build it like a jeep with more clearing to the ground, the wheels should have done a lot better
Definitely. Increase the clearance and reduce wheelbase by putting the motors under the control unit, with the wheels sticking out the sides, maybe even with sorts of legs to increase it further. I would also go 1,5 times wheel diameter as not to reduce torque too much but increase contact patch surface. And use the same principe as the offroad tyre, your last wheel was great.
Also kinda lame how he puts the paddle spokes on the one wheel when he could've put the on even the wobble wheels asline as they were in line with axel
Yes, and far too much torque being applied through the wheels causing it to dig down very quickly rather than griping. The operator should go gentler on the throttle, and not slam it on full when it starts to get stuck, which seems to be most people's impulse and which makes it even harder to get out. Sand is one of the easiest materials to get stuck in if you gun it.
in sand and while climbing, what you need is a licked differential usually used in the rear, it makes it that the wheels on both sides are only able to turn at the same speed. this would eliminate most of the burying problems with the wheels because it could use all the wheels to get out of a hole instead of just the one that got stuck :/ great content, subbed right away
Not all humanities invented or discovered the wheels, for example black afrikaans never did, when some other humanities invented it several thousand years ago.
@@MAGA_Patriot2024 not how it works. As a young kid I thought the same way but as I’ve gained more experience and worked with knowledgeable mentors worth millions of dollars I’ve come to understand an idea is actually worth next to nothing. It’s all in the execution. (Unfortunately)
The optical illusion those things would create going down the highway would cause all manner of wrecks - either people rubbernecking in complete confusion, or people freaking out thinking the vehicle ahead or overtaking them is about to loose its wheels.
I reckon two things need to change- 1. Test on multiple terrains, of course any wheels with a perfectly smooth contact surface would get absolutely trashed on anything except smooth concrete 2. Double or triple the surface area allowed, as we can see even standard wheels have insufficient traction
When it comes to loose material like sand, it's all about having paddle wheels that act kind of like a scoop. You want to push against as much material as you can, but you don't want it getting stuck in any recesses the tire has.
you should try to make the "prongle"-wheels have four wobbles instead of two, that might give them some sort of additional "digging"-capability, due to those wobbles catching sand in between themselves.
I wonder if those wobbler wheels can be used in amphibious vehicles as a main propulsion system because when you show them driving they really look like flippers of some kind of sea creature.
Its most certainly within your capabilities to be able to figure out the simplicity of an ESC/Motor/Receiver/Transmitter system. It's very straight forward, and with the advancements of technology, modern RC's are a much simpler, more reliable system. I figured it out, and I feel you're well above my comprehension!! Great vid though!! Thanks for this!
If you haven't named this platform yet I suggest Platypus. Very cool experiment, would be neat to turn into a series like Major Hardware's fan showdown!
There's a guy who 3D prints and tests computer fans made by his audience. It would be awesome to do the same thing with a waterproof rc boat motor. Maybe even try the exact same designs lol
probably not, as the wheel turns it would create a force that could theoretically push the car forward, but it is very weak. then it would continue to rotate and make the exact same force in the opposite direction, pushing the car backward.
To get more accurate tests probably do different tests on different surfaces other than just sand, like dirt (maybe mud), gravel, paved roads, etc. And, you should also mess around with different sizes, and/or changing the cut on the nightshade wheels to be thinner (closer to regular wheels) or wider, and possibly some other things to see which seem to work better. Also to fix friction problems, maybe adding something to the edge might increase friction, for example maybe putting certain types of tapes on the edges. Honestly there's a lot of different tests you can run with this to try and figure out what is the best and what might make one better than another. Could be awesome if you got in contact with possibly some other people interested in engineering or science stuff that might be able to help with research and analyzing.
@@GamesIWantToPlay Heh, I can sometimes get really interested in science stuff. This just happened to interest me, and I was honestly curious and wanted to see him possibly do more with the idea.
That moment when people figure out the as long as the 2d normal projection of an object is a circle literally any shaped object can be made into a wheel
@@undefined06855 2d so that'd basically be a normal wheel. The op is kinda condescending but basically if you take a tube and cut any shape in it from the top you'll end up with something that can be used as a wheel
@@joshoxborrow2314 I think you're mistaking his meme format for condescension. I mean his comment wasn't really directed at anyone. Just the fact you stated as well. I mean I see your point, it does sound a bit like that but it's the meme format, not worth getting bent into a prongle about.
@@davutsauze8319 nah for wheels the radius (in the 2D projection) has to be the same, not the diameter. Cause the center is fixed to the axle and with just the same diameter you don't have a fixed center but one that "wobbles around".
Awesome stuff! As an industrial designer, I like the topology of the chassis you developed. It kinda reminded me a bit of the "Dirt Crusher" system we had at LEGO in the early 2000s ... there, we additionally had flexible elements, that took some of the stress off of moving parts during impacts (mimicking the function of ligaments)...
2:43 I don't know why but it feels like I'm watching Adventure time for the first time due to the feeling of weirdness but actually satisfying and calming to watch.
That DIY toy would sell well with 10 year olds, the designs of these colourful wheels, the somewhat ease of putting it together and discovering how well each sets of shapes works would be fun to most kids.
I am thinking something that expands like a hoberman sphere would be ideal since when the chassis got stuck with the wheels in air the lack of friction would make them spin faster making them larger
Angus, I have to hand it to you. This comment section is probably one of the best I've seen on RUclips. Most folks seem very respectful. I think that largley because of your own imput. Well done Angus and fellow subs!
You could try a 2/2 configuration. I'd be really interested to see the prongle wheels on the front and the spoke wheels on the back, then run that on sand--might be interesting results.
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At 6:45 you wrote that those are wobbler wheels and at 7:22 5 spoke wheels :D I had to point that sorry :D
dang nabbit I always miss editing mistakes like that haha. if only YT still allowed annotations!
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@@ChiliCheeseNuggies i saw the same message with 2 "people" on another video definitly a scam
@Chase Marlon Cool! Took about 15 minutes and my default search engine changed for no reason!
why are you magyar
This is one of those ideas that I didn't knew I needed in my life
Well would you look at that it’s my favorite tomato hater
Intezga is absolutly right🍅💣
I didn't know I didn't need it, but I know now
Same, wouldn't even had thought it was a possibility and then once you see it it's so obvious.
Yep.
Ok but now can we make a big set of wobblers and put them on a full size car? 👀
Also, if you want to see a real world wheel that uses this concept, check out “shark wheel” skateboard wheels.
a checkmark name with 4 likes? thats insane
It's the chicken slapping guy :O
I dont know you but your verified so this gets 50+ replies and 12k likes
Fenders go brrrr
wildlife expert: "And here we have the tracks of the rare golden viper"
Angus: hmmm
LOL they do look quite like snake tracks.
@@MakersMuse Haha i agree
@@MakersMuse They actually remind me of the action of sidewinder snakes, which are specifically adapted for moving quickly across sand. I wonder if a wheel design emphasizing this similarity even more would perform even better. Maybe if each wheel only made contact with the ground along half of the left-right sweep? You'd probably need a six-wheeled robot to maintain stability with that though.
But sometimes, more unexpected tracks grab our attention
@@BiologyTube I think it would also be a good idea to use a single motor, drive train and differentials, so the wheels always stay the same compared to each other.
Might make the wobbly wheels better, right?
This is the definition of “re-inventing the wheel!”
Damn! @Jason Egan
And failing to understand that a wheel has to be enough thick and enough rubbery so the coefficient of friction is correct.
Sick sad world where even "intelligent" people are dumb.
@@romarainpublic6735 yh I dont think so wobble wheels are applicable on big scale vehicles. We could just use rigged or tank-like wheels to roam sandy terrains
@@romarainpublic6735 🤔 So, can it used as alternative wheel option for Mars Rover?
@@XanderProduction There is a reason wheels are the way they are, weight! being completely vertical puts the force directly down, also if you want to really test out wobbly wheels and the effect they would have on an automobile remove the weights balancing ur tires off the rim and tell me how it rolls. When a wheel is out of balance which is exactly what a wobbly wheel would be it throws the car all over at higher speeds very rough ride indeed.
Sand is an incredibly challenging surface. In fact every type of surface has its own dynamics.
Mud, ice, asphalt, concrete, snow, pebble, dirt, cobblestone, and any of those with standing water on them are all going to show dramatically different results. Who knows maybe prongles are killer on cobblestone in amazing ways.
I think prongles would be quite good on dirt
@@ricksterlias yummy
@@ricksterlias crunch crunch
It's coarse and it gets everywhere
I'm not interested in drawing this up, but I welcome someone else to: You want more ground clearance to avoid bottoming out. You need fins for traction without being so deep they creating a rotary shovel. Finally, you want to spread the surface area of the wheel across the largest possible ground surface to prevent the wheels from sinking or digging into lose sand, similar to a snow shoe. Create wheels with 3 spokes, each ending in a kind of curved snowshoe (like you had a full wheel but cut away everything except a few ovals of tread). Use the largest gaps between the snow shoe hatches that can still can compact loose sand without letting a lot through. Elongate a few of the hatches on the snow shoes just enough to dig into sand, but no more.
Think about which diagonals to use for the traction fins. I'd lean toward using the same angle on the two diagonals, but reversing it for the adjacent wheels. Other options include having the left match and the right match, and they can either create an arrow, pressing sand in, or a V pressing sand out. The last option is matching the two front, and matching the two back, but I fear that would create a tenancy to pull the front and back in different directions and encourage spinning in place in certain situations.
Likewise, think about the contact pattern as the wheels rotate, so that you always have 2 snow shoes down, and curve the leading and trailing edges of the snow shoes so they contact smoothly and not on edge, particularly when starting from a stop.
I was.about to start a thread on a similar theme.
- Larger diameter to get more ground clearance.
- Bigger width to span more sand
- Mesh surface to still have similar surface area despite larger diamwter and width.
- Some regular "blades" that can shoot sand backwards.
Imagine writing all that and only getting 68 likes
While I thought the same, creating wheels for optimal traction on sand wasn't the point of the video.
However I'd love to see it done too in the future.
F for the guy who walked on the beach after him and never figured out what made those squiggly tracks.
*cue existantial crisis cat
"are we humans truly alone in this world?"
I thought the same
Snaaakkeeesss SNAAAKKEEESS
Ancient aliens
That was the first thought to cross my mind as well!
You thought you got away with sneaking a "wheelie excited" joke in at 5:50 but I see you
“they bury themselves to hide their shame like crabs”
that is the phrase that won my sub
God said not to eat crabs,certain shellfish, and pigs,because these animals will eat frases and a dead human body! That's why pork is frowned upon.
@@sjs7820 nobody asked.
@@sjs7820 God said that because of diseases which were incurable. we can now pasteurize the meat and it is fine.
@@abrasmage as well as the fact that we are no longer living under the law, and we have been freed and are living in a new covenant
@@abrasmage Bc of the man who invented the vaccine to Rabies (not rlly, it's pasteurization was used for milk)
The wobbly wheels reminded me of baby turtles scrambling to shore. So naturally I'm curious.... Can it swim? 😝
I wonder if spokes or wobbler would win
Try it and see.
i don't think it would, but a wheel with spikes would clearly do
Oh hey I said the same thing ^_^ the reflection and shape definitely help that look.
I also was curious as to how all of these would preform in water... I mean Amphibious vehicle is certainly a bonus.
I think we really need to find out haha
such a cool project! love the design of the platform 👌😎
Hey I know you
Hey @marsgizmo keep it up (also u guys should do a collab(
@@LULU1422__ thanks :)
@@marsgizmo 🙂
Oh, hey Marsgizmo, how are you?
"Major Hardware's Fan Showdown, but for RC wheels" sounds like a wonderful series.
Imagine someone looking at those tracks on the beach and trying to figure out what made them 😂
*lmao*
Stroke instensifies
the wobbler definitely misstook as snake couple
@@dan_noo Oh. OH. OH GOD. OH GODDD-
This man's literally trying to reinvent the wheel
Best comment
And he's succeeding!
nothing wrong with reinventing the wheel. its they only way society improves.
i sure dont want stone wheels on my car, that's just not going to work well. i certainly dont want a steam engine in my car either. (actually that would be cool but no thanks)
i dont want to learn Morse code to communicate over long distances either so I'll take my smart phone instead.
people who say "dont reinvent the wheel" are anti progression.
Why not add hinges to the paddle wheels?
@@darkshadowsx5949 what about the phrase "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"
2:43 this is one of the most satisfying things I've seen in my life
yeah it is
I’d be really interested in seeing how these wheels perform in water as an amphibious vehicle. There’s something about the side to side motion of the wobble wheel that makes me think it could produce some interesting results.
6:04 the fact that it's always pulling to the right might be due to the direction (nap) of the woven carpet. Because of the way carpet is produced sometimes force the "hairs" of the carpet in one direction. Stroking the carpet from different angles you might be able to spot a different resistance.
Can't believe how I was rooting for those spoke wheels. Thanks for adding fun to our day and all without obnoxious music too!
I knew I wasn’t the only one that thought the spoke wheels were going to get far
This should be an internationally available toy. I'd have loved one of these as a kid and I'd still love it!
Imagine having fifty of those nightshade wheels on each side of the car to create this sorta trippy wave effect as it moves about.
sand tires also have a lot of surface area touching the ground in general, the gaps in the spoke wheel don't keep it elevated above the sand
Regarding the “pull to the right”
That’s because of the carpet pile direction.
I’ve notecard that many time with a vacuum.
You push it one was and the carpet pushes its to the side.
Go the Other way across and pushes the same cardinal direction.
Looks to be a body design failure, rather than the wheel issue. Stilted or high center might give more clear results
Add to that a bit of speed control. The wheels turn very quickly, flinging the sand away instead of holding on to it
Or just larger diameter wheels
I came here to say this exact same thing xD. Ennar's and difflocktwo's comments are also good insights imo.
Also controller seems to be unfair on wheel torque. In 13:28 You can clearly see that on left side there is not uniform control of motors. Rear one which has traction spins, but front one which is in the air doesn't. As a system without traction or torque control, both wheel should spin with front one being faster. For me it looks like there is not enough power in battery to provide uniform power delivery to all motors, or the controller is doing bad job.
It needs bigger wheels
8:00
"Long ago, the four nations lived in harmony..."
Until the spoked wheel attacked.
This is starting to get a "fan showdown" vibe and I love it.
RUclips keeps removing the links I try to comment, is there an email address or something you'd prefer I send it to?
do you like cats? ps im not a cat xd
Lol Mr. major hardware XD
yeah it does have the fan showdown vibes but wheels instead of fans XD
exactly xd
This man is out here literally reinventing the wheel and I am here for it
2:48 damn those wheels move smoother than my life
Man, that is a very good self burn.
Not that hard to beat then
him: "i made these curby bois"
me: "thats a pringle tho"
Sour cream pringles are my favourite
He calls them Prongles for legal reasons
And I’m pretty sure it’s “Curvy” boys
Tbh, I think ground clearance is more of an issue than the wheels themselves.
what do you mean?
@@openlink9958 the distance between the lowest pount of the vehicle and the lowest part of the wheel
@@openlink9958 it mainly gets stuck because of the bottom of the body hitting the ground rather than the wheels losing all traction or ability to pull up the hill, then because the body is stuck the wheels try to drag the body across the ground, but instead of the body moving it just moves the sand out from under the wheels, digging a hole and bogging itself down.
What I was going to say, the failing point of all wheels were the body bottoming out, maybe if he made a platarm capable of bigger wheels and a much higher ride height those sooner could fair better (probably won't help that much, but hey, at least it will be their actual fault when the vehicle bogs =P)
It might be interesting to adapt these wheels to an off-road platform. I made one a few months ago that might work. I can't post the link in the comments, but you should find it if you search for “Off-road robotics platform (rovers)” on Thingiverse.
Something like a "screw" wheel or a "frill" wheel might improve on the spoke wheel. Think the shape of a jester's neck ruff. Like a combo of the wobbler, prongle and spoke.
And with an off-center hub, so the car can lift itself out of holes (and shake the sand off)
I feel like the bigger problem was the body getting stuck in the sand, rather than the wheels. If you build it like a jeep with more clearing to the ground, the wheels should have done a lot better
Larger wheels would def helped that
Definitely. Increase the clearance and reduce wheelbase by putting the motors under the control unit, with the wheels sticking out the sides, maybe even with sorts of legs to increase it further. I would also go 1,5 times wheel diameter as not to reduce torque too much but increase contact patch surface. And use the same principe as the offroad tyre, your last wheel was great.
Also kinda lame how he puts the paddle spokes on the one wheel when he could've put the on even the wobble wheels asline as they were in line with axel
Yes, and far too much torque being applied through the wheels causing it to dig down very quickly rather than griping. The operator should go gentler on the throttle, and not slam it on full when it starts to get stuck, which seems to be most people's impulse and which makes it even harder to get out. Sand is one of the easiest materials to get stuck in if you gun it.
in sand and while climbing, what you need is a licked differential
usually used in the rear, it makes it that the wheels on both sides are only able to turn at the same speed.
this would eliminate most of the burying problems with the wheels because it could use all the wheels to get out of a hole instead of just the one that got stuck :/
great content, subbed right away
The design of the "all the wheels" one was very "90's/early 2000's toy aesthetic" imo
Its like a bop-it extreme in car form
@@deathpony698 "Bop It, Twist It, DRIVE IT"
definitely one toy in particular "BOP IT". But also something like Simon
This could become a serie with people sending you their wheels design.
Like the channel Major Hardware testing the 3d printed fans.
Yes to the Wheel Showdown
"let's call them... PRONGLE wheels"
You sir earned a like and subscribe
Yes
Yes
Your MiA collection just earned you a sub!
As a longboarder who uses Sharkwheels, seeing this wobbly robot rolling down the beach brought a big smile to my face.
I've always wanted those wheels, they any good?
You made a chassis for a street race car: wide and with a low CG. And then you want to climb sandy hills with this car...
Well low CG is good for climbing, but yes it always amazes me how much stuff sinks into sand haha
Obviously you've never seen Scandinavian hill climb or crazy YT videos of same ,,,lol,,,🙃
@@steve_beatty Yes, I know these Scandinavian cars that drive over the water. But you know, the exception proves the rule!
@@UbuntuBirdyMovies man the wobbly wheels would actually be good in water
@@primosek1 you're right, they would act like an oloid-drive!
Mankind's earliest and possibly greatest invention is the wheel, it's 2021 and I'm watching some guy reinvent the wheel and I'm just amazed
We need channel like this
It took mankind thousands of years to invent the wheel, RUclips managed to make the wheel square again in 15 years
LMAO
When was wheel square?
@@muitnecsa3489 Rouleaux wheel - have a google, it's crazy
Not all humanities invented or discovered the wheels, for example black afrikaans never did, when some other humanities invented it several thousand years ago.
@@vonarg have you heard about a joke?
Watching those wobblers slowly scratch a double helix in the sand is quite possibly the most satisfying thing I've ever seen
Did i really hear you say "I wheally wanna find out!".
Well done sir.
Everything you did is beyond my skill set you're awesome
Really looks more like a creature than a car when it's moving along the beach like that 😂
Makes me imagine selling a remote control children’s toy with collect em all wheels
Million dollar idea
Honestly genius
You need to patent this
Yeah, brilliant idea but now it'll be a race to the patent office...not the best way to make a fortune...
@@MAGA_Patriot2024 not how it works. As a young kid I thought the same way but as I’ve gained more experience and worked with knowledgeable mentors worth millions of dollars I’ve come to understand an idea is actually worth next to nothing. It’s all in the execution. (Unfortunately)
The 4 different wheels being one of the most stable in the pulling test, literally made me laugh.
Brilliant! Thanks for putting a smile on my face and making my day. Success.
The wobblers and its tracks on the sand look so satisfying
"Dorato" wheels would be the bold next step to this project.
Maker Muse x WhistlinDiesel - Life Size Wobbly Wheels
idk if you could make this happen but this would be so cool to see
The optical illusion those things would create going down the highway would cause all manner of wrecks - either people rubbernecking in complete confusion, or people freaking out thinking the vehicle ahead or overtaking them is about to loose its wheels.
No please.. Not that ars3h0le...!
This is so beautiful, thanks for sharing this, this is basically art itself.
The flow of that thing looks so natural but odd at the same time
Everything in the world are odd is just get used to seeing it
I reckon two things need to change-
1. Test on multiple terrains, of course any wheels with a perfectly smooth contact surface would get absolutely trashed on anything except smooth concrete
2. Double or triple the surface area allowed, as we can see even standard wheels have insufficient traction
Make the wheels gears.
Worked for me back when i made cars with gears for wheels.
This man is really trying to reinvent the wheel
And I fully support it
The car on adding of towbar attachment looks just like a flat duck 😅😂😂🐥🐥 at 5:24
The wobbler wheel rolling on the sand fills me with unreasonable joy
same
When it comes to loose material like sand, it's all about having paddle wheels that act kind of like a scoop. You want to push against as much material as you can, but you don't want it getting stuck in any recesses the tire has.
The combination of paddles on balloon tires gives traction without sinking/digging into the sand.
I see the Made in Abyss manga series, this man is cultured.
@MISPLACEDs Great minds think alike XD
Just notice it in video and I just went here to find if someone else noticed.
Nice
@@petrkult917 I noticed you noticing my noticing. Very cool
@@GiffysChannel Yes indeed. Noticing someone noticing that someone is man of culture is indeed very cool
@@GiffysChannel incredible, I just noticed you noticing how this person noticed this man’s love for Made in Abyss, we are also friends now.
beautifully done. you gained my subscription today sir.
yo that night shade thing would SWIMM AMAZINGLY, the wobblyness would move the water the right way!!
"It does bring me joy to see so many people leaving their thoughts in the comments."
0:29 "Drinking solves every problem."
you should try to make the "prongle"-wheels have four wobbles instead of two, that might give them some sort of additional "digging"-capability, due to those wobbles catching sand in between themselves.
I wonder if those wobbler wheels can be used in amphibious vehicles as a main propulsion system because when you show them driving they really look like flippers of some kind of sea creature.
Imagine someone walking down the beach and thinking, "what kind of animal made those tracks???"
for the Wobbler wheels, Conjoined at the head twin snakes obviously
Aliens!!! ;P
Idea; get a big canvas and have this thing drive across it with some paint on its wheels. I think it would make for some really cool science art
“A bit beyond my skill set at this time” ..
Mate... you’re my Superhero..!!
The orange wheels don’t really seems like wobbly wheels. They just look like they’d be good for rough terrain
Just imagine someone going along that beach and seeing the tracks left from the robot.
Some wildlife watcher is gonna find your tracks and be REALLY confused.
Its most certainly within your capabilities to be able to figure out the simplicity of an ESC/Motor/Receiver/Transmitter system. It's very straight forward, and with the advancements of technology, modern RC's are a much simpler, more reliable system. I figured it out, and I feel you're well above my comprehension!! Great vid though!! Thanks for this!
If you haven't named this platform yet I suggest Platypus. Very cool experiment, would be neat to turn into a series like Major Hardware's fan showdown!
That's an awesome name!
@@MakersMuse I have hope for the prongle wheel because it's similar to the 8 spoke wheel just it doesn't dig in as well
The wobbly wheels looks like fins. So, can it swim?
I think we need to find out!
There's a guy who 3D prints and tests computer fans made by his audience. It would be awesome to do the same thing with a waterproof rc boat motor. Maybe even try the exact same designs lol
@@VagabondTE Yeah, Major Hardware! :) Great stuff and the guy seems humble!
probably not, as the wheel turns it would create a force that could theoretically push the car forward, but it is very weak. then it would continue to rotate and make the exact same force in the opposite direction, pushing the car backward.
@@j.c.cannon2112 That assumes it's underwater right? It looks like it should be able to paddle on the surface :D
To get more accurate tests probably do different tests on different surfaces other than just sand, like dirt (maybe mud), gravel, paved roads, etc. And, you should also mess around with different sizes, and/or changing the cut on the nightshade wheels to be thinner (closer to regular wheels) or wider, and possibly some other things to see which seem to work better. Also to fix friction problems, maybe adding something to the edge might increase friction, for example maybe putting certain types of tapes on the edges. Honestly there's a lot of different tests you can run with this to try and figure out what is the best and what might make one better than another. Could be awesome if you got in contact with possibly some other people interested in engineering or science stuff that might be able to help with research and analyzing.
Very body leaving a sentence or two then there's this guy.
@@GamesIWantToPlay very body
@@GamesIWantToPlay Heh, I can sometimes get really interested in science stuff. This just happened to interest me, and I was honestly curious and wanted to see him possibly do more with the idea.
@@crustaceanking3293 sorry auto-correct
@@GamesIWantToPlay I thought you were trying to say something like "my very body is leaving my soul" or some shit.
You have conducted a study for another revolution 🔥🔥🔥🔥
My guy, you just potentially invented an amphibious wheel.
Had the same thought
Yes! I agree!
I don't think it would push against water much
That moment when people figure out the as long as the 2d normal projection of an object is a circle literally any shaped object can be made into a wheel
c u b e ?
@@undefined06855 2d so that'd basically be a normal wheel. The op is kinda condescending but basically if you take a tube and cut any shape in it from the top you'll end up with something that can be used as a wheel
@@joshoxborrow2314 I think you're mistaking his meme format for condescension. I mean his comment wasn't really directed at anyone. Just the fact you stated as well.
I mean I see your point, it does sound a bit like that but it's the meme format, not worth getting bent into a prongle about.
Actually, you can have non circle shapes that also have the same height from bottom to top at every orientation, so you can have even _more_ wheels!
@@davutsauze8319 nah for wheels the radius (in the 2D projection) has to be the same, not the diameter. Cause the center is fixed to the axle and with just the same diameter you don't have a fixed center but one that "wobbles around".
The two major factors are: area of the contact Surface area and the irregularity of wheel shape
Would the wobbler swim?
Good thinking🤔
I'd say your carpet has a "grain" to it contributing to the drift.
Great vid mate. As usual.
Awesome stuff! As an industrial designer, I like the topology of the chassis you developed. It kinda reminded me a bit of the "Dirt Crusher" system we had at LEGO in the early 2000s ... there, we additionally had flexible elements, that took some of the stress off of moving parts during impacts (mimicking the function of ligaments)...
A lot of the combat robots use similar shock mounted drive pods, it definitely allows them to survive incredible impacts!
@@MakersMuse Ah, I guess then that's where our guys got the inspiration from!
This guy just went, “try and steal this one with low effort”
Hey
This can be a very entertaining online series which I would love to root for :D
Friend: "So how's your project car going?"
Project car: 8:05
I literally burst out laughing at 2:50, that is the wonkiest drive I've ever seen (and I've made some jank robots). I have to reproduce this.
This is the video to watch while high, just take my word for it.
We are either the exact same type of
People. Or completely different with
Our ideas and thought process.
I'll save it then, thx for this 😁
I can watch all the wobbly wheels moving all day long and not get bored.
Nobody: You don't need to reinvent the wheel.
This guy: Hold my mechanical engineering.
Do you mean Everybody: or Nobody said that
Do you mean Everybody: or Nobody said that
with your scale/carpet trial, the smoothness of your contact area with the carpet makes an incredible difference in force
2:43 I don't know why but it feels like I'm watching Adventure time for the first time due to the feeling of weirdness but actually satisfying and calming to watch.
BRILLIANT, mate! 🙌🏼
This guy could literally build his kid a remote control car...
with industrial design
That DIY toy would sell well with 10 year olds, the designs of these colourful wheels, the somewhat ease of putting it together and discovering how well each sets of shapes works would be fun to most kids.
I think he'll just build a 3d printer and let his kid decide 😂
Well, yes..
5:52 "I'm wheely excited"
I'd add the scoops on the chip wheels.
By the by, how's Popeye?
Visits daily! He got a bit dirty in a recent storm but seems to be cleaning up hehe
I am thinking something that expands like a hoberman sphere would be ideal since when the chassis got stuck with the wheels in air the lack of friction would make them spin faster making them larger
Angus, I have to hand it to you. This comment section is probably one of the best I've seen on RUclips. Most folks seem very respectful. I think that largley because of your own imput. Well done Angus and fellow subs!
Wheely nice stuff, this one
The wobbly wheels make it look like its hovering sort of, so damn cool
You could try a 2/2 configuration. I'd be really interested to see the prongle wheels on the front and the spoke wheels on the back, then run that on sand--might be interesting results.
You're right, it needs taller wheels for more ground clearance and non digging wheels in front.