Pat Condell: "Prove God doesn’t exist...... That’s a tough one. Show me how it’s done by proving Zeus and Apollo don’t exist, and I’ll use your method."
I did I let Jesus then Allah and everyone into my life and I went psyco. Not I'm agnostic. As a Christian I thought Jesus died so Christians could sin as much as they want, murder is a sin. Muslim is oppression of education of women and overall women's rights they each have extremist kkk, Isis. But there moral is not the same as ours. We know education is a right and murder isn't good, we don't need a old book to tell us what to believe. We don't need Scientologys money scam. We are sane people. Please let common sense into your life and use that curiosity for once.
I'm not against anyone believing in a god. What I'm against is the organization by people of those beliefs into any type of politically guided, mass monetized social control system.
I used to be a Christian and then one day woke up and realized how dumb it made me. People choose to believe in the bible because it helps them with their insecurities in life, it helps them feel powerful being God's child. I came to realize that the more questions I had and the more I prayed, no God was hearing me. My prayers never got answered and it only led to confusion.
darksidelead Oh right, just because they're plush that means they're care bears? That's racist. Come into the 21st century and stop stereotyping the plushies.
Wow, some people have no sense of humor. It was neither a troll nor a serious opinion. I understand the point; you can't prove there isn't a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow but that doesn't mean there is. Sound about right?
Oddly, the thing about this video that amazes me more than anything else is your ability to speak so clearly and purposefully for 11 and a half minutes seemingly without cuts or retakes and with only 2 barely noticeable pronunciation flubs. Did you memorize that entire speech???
stiimuli Or someone can just let him know that there has been a million dollar prize waiting for decades to teh first person who proves God DOES exist.
Seth Andrews is a brilliant speaker. He has a fantastic podcast and great videos. I would love to see him in person it would be awesome. Very patient to the outlandish responses and replies he gets from Christians as well.
Miranox spaghetti is an Italian food and the FSM bible was written by an american. therefore he is a hoax perpetrated by Americans in order to make fun of Italians. where is my $1,000,000 dollars :D
+Miranox Can you name one person who GENUINELY believes in the FSM? As opposed to many brilliant scientists and leaders who believe in the God of the Bible.
The most common answer I get when I ask Christians if they would kill their child upon God's request is, "Yes, but God wouldn't actually make me go through with it. He would stop me before I did, like Abraham". sigh
Cortland Wheeler Human sacrifice in the bible that everybody has heard of. Some guy named Jesus. You don't have to dig through the bible to find a reference, hell, a reminder is hanging front and center in every christian church ever. Ask a christian what Jesus did for them, and the auto-response is he died for them. It doesn't get more human sacrifice-ey than that.
Jails across the country contain parents who killed their children because God told them to. Apparently God forgot to intervene and save the child. Must have been busy helping Joel Osteen's wife with her parking space.
WOW !!! i never thought of that .. you're right . man, do i feel like a fool . i'm sure the wbc needs the funds since freddie has kicked the bucket , oops,hu,hum,cough,fart,puck,,,, i mean ''past away'' . god rest his soul .
Whats the chances of someone having a dream thats almost the same exact, big event which happens that morning? Thats a simple short answer question for you to answer.
Well thought out video that my family would disown me for if I shared it. UGH. Being a former Christian is rough and I'm sure our struggles are similar. Keep doing what you do.
I really hope someone who knows where he lives, confronts him in person and asks him for some stipulations for his challenge. Specifically, how he defines god. Possibly getting him to sign something saying he'd pay up the 100k if he was proven wrong. He might be too fearful of negative feedback if he refused to back his bet, that he might actually sign documentation. Given that the god of the bible actually contains contradictions, you can actually prove that he doesn't exist as described. Get a signed document, make the proof, and take him to court when he doesn't pay up.
Dear religious individuals: Why do you place your beliefs in a pedestal? By that I mean, why are you skeptical about all sorts of things like politics and sports but not about religion? Think about it, if your faith is so strong why don't you dare corroborate the claims that have been spoon-fed to you since you were a child? For example, did Adam and Eve exist? We certainly can't corroborate that historically but we can hypothesize that a population of 2 individuals in ANY species has little to no chance of surviving, and zero chance of becoming this abundant in just a few thousand years. Then, you can follow-up with a logical statement such as: If Adam and Eve couldn't have existed, then there is no original sin, if there is no original sin, then there is no real reason for a sacrifice and finally, if there is no real reason for a sacrifice, then Christianity has been falsified. Now, people will tell you that they don't take Genesis literally, that they take it metaphorically. Most people that say this don't even have a clue as to what a metaphor is...so I guess I will tell you. First of all, a metaphor is a figure of speech, in other words a tool to convey meaning. There are metaphors in the bible but the objective will always be to give the meaning of one word to another like referring to god as a shepherd which begs the question, why would anyone get mad when they are called sheep? People want to feel as if they can lead themselves, but let's realize that this is a process. Each of us is born ignorant of the world around us, lets compare that to this fact: Christianity, at least in the US has a lot invested in education, private schools since the Separation of Church and State prohibits the advocacy of any given religion by state funded programs. You have such things as Sunday Schools and Baptism making sure that children start believing in god as soon as possible. Astounding, since that is the only way I can conceive one would believe such utter non-sense. On top of that, it is not enough that they believe a god exists, they have to fear as well. Because god is like Freddy Kruger, he needs our fear for his mere existence to be possible. In the past, fear was instilled by ignorance and violence, not much has changed except the downgrade of violence to a more socially oriented violence like bullying and ostracizing. Well, at least we are not being burned at the stake anymore. Any other system of ideas that would even dare to go to such measures to try and keep their people faithful would surely be ridiculed out of the county, but religion has always been placed in a pedestal, with a don't touch sing. The less you contemplate it, the less you think about it, the easier life will be for you. However, you are between that and living a lie. You choose. Eventually you will get out of the woods, but you will never get back the time lost pretending.
Jacob K fair enough, I just hope you realize that you can obtain that without having to believe the extraordinary claims Christianity requires you to believe. I'm pretty sure you've heard this before but there are millions of atheists out there that are living stable, meaningful, moral lives without a deity.
I was a Sunday school teacher when I was in college. This video was the first one that got me thinking and following the yellow brick road out of oz 4 years ago. You have my not so eternal gratefulness.
I'll give 100,000 Monopoly dollars to the person who can prove there is not a china teapot in an elliptical orbit between Earth and Mars that is too small to be spotted by any human telescope.
"Flightless animals with wings" Aron Ra actually gives an explanation for why this is possible, and why the first animals with wings were in fact flightless. Wings were likely used by dinosaurs to cover their eggs and keep them warm, and thus they could support a much larger clutch than they could without wings. Wings have purposes beyond flight in many animals. Everything else you mentioned, however, are true vestiges and can only be explained through evolution.
It is obvious that the first animals with wings *must* have been flightless. Otherwise, the opposite must have been true: there were flying animals with no wings, that evolved wings afterwards. I wonder how exactly they flew :) Some animals gained the ability to fly once they developed wings, taking advantage of the fact that they did have wings (not the other way around). Maybe those wings were not evolutionarily discarded long before actually being suitable for flying because they provided some benefit, such as stabilization while running.
Let's suppose that a god of some kind DOES materialize. It's this glowing, floating mass that can communicate telepathically in all languages simultaneously. It appears before everyone at once and says, "I am everything." Do you know what would happen next? The Christians would be quick to say this was their god, Yahweh. Muslims would declare it Allah. Hindus would declare it Vishnu. Everyone would see THEIR god in it, and would be quick to accept this appearance as evidence. Meanwhile, the Atheist would say, "Hmm. Well, I guess there IS a god out there. But we still don't know if it correlates to any of the world's religions. I did not see a name tag."
I used to think that Christianity stole the Prometheus story somehow.Because the story I heard was that Lucifer take the shape of the snake and convinced Eve to eat the apple.Offering the humans knowledge.Just the way Prometheus stole the fire and gave it to the humans.
Christian here. I appreciate your thoughts, your clarity, and your calm response. This is the type of response that will get us talking instead of bickering. Well done. And, as I'm sure you have heard before, I am praying to God that you may know Jesus Christ and once again believe his claims.
Wow. This comment section is literally filled with theists making a huge effort to shift the burden of proof away from their claim that a god exists. I think most of them know what they are doing but have decided that dishonest discourse is allowed when in defense of their invisible superfriend.
What "theory" means in ordinary speech: The term "theory" means a very different thing when used in everyday conversation and in science. In our day to day speech, we often use "theory" to mean a guess or unsubstantiated idea about how something works (as in "I have a theory that gremlins are hiding my car keys"). In science, we would call such a guess a hypothesis, not a theory. A hypothesis is a proposed explanation for an observation. In this case, I am proposing that the explanation for why I can't find my car keys is that gremlins are hiding them.* The distinction between the words "Theory" and "Hypothesis" is very important because in science "Theory" does not mean "guess". I repeat, "Theory" does not mean "guess". So, what does the word "theory" mean in science? According to the National Academies of Sciences, "some scientific explanations are so well established that no new evidence is likely to alter them. The explanation becomes a scientific theory. In everyday language a theory means a hunch or speculation. Not so in science. In science, the word theory refers to a comprehensive explanation of an important feature of nature supported by facts gathered over time. Theories also allow scientists to make predictions about as yet unobserved phenomena". People who don't understand this distinction sometimes dismiss ideas saying "it's just a theory" (this is very commonly used to suggest that evolution is just speculation, for example). But, when scientists speak of the theory of gravity or the theory of evolution, they don't mean that these are random untested ideas that someone came up with after too many beers. The AAAS (American Association for the Advancement of Science), the world's largest scientific society, has this explanation of what scientists mean when they use the word "theory": " A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world."
+Eagle I'm pretty sure that at least most of them understand the word theory by now, both the scientific and common usage. Just as I'm sure they understand the word atheist. It's just more convenient at this point to stick to their script. After all its much easier to argue with a straw man than actual ideas. However, if someone genuinely does not understand I agree we should shed some light on this. Although, so far every time I've tried to explain it, I've noticed they prefer to use their preconceived notions.
Yes indeed - common parlance is wrong. Maybe worth giving this link: notjustatheory.com/ The creationtards will still lie, but now they know for sure they're lying.
Nerdy Nachos Cows and Josh Feuerstein.......yep, I can see the similarities there. lol You know I'm probably being a little unfair here. So I would like to take this opportunity to apologize........to the cows. I'm so very sorry cows for comparing you to the likes of Josh Feuerstein. I realize you cows are much more attractive and not nearly as annoying to hang out with as is the case with Josh F. It shan't happen again. :)
William Strumfels I'll grant you that it certainly doesn't help. However Josh Feuerstein is small potatoes compared to the likes of Donald Trump. Now there's someone who's proving by the millions how stupid some of my fellow Americans can be.
this video help me with thoughts i've been trying to put words to. i was born and raised catholic, but have been steadily losing my faith. it just doesn't make sense to me anymore. the fact that so many religions exist makes me skeptical because they all have faith they are right, but when we all die a bunch of people are going to be pissed off that they were wrong. I'd rather live my life as full as I can, and if there is some being out there that wants me to do stuff for him I'd rather him tell me than leave it to supposed interpreters of old texts to tell me. cuz if he doesn't exist, then religion and faith were just a complete waste of my short life. i'd rather live it on my terms.
***** Actually, according to the bible, even if we live good lives, we aren't christian; therefore, we deserve the same fate that murderers, rapists, and thieves get. Well, at least murderers, rapists, and thieves that didn't do those things under the bible.
If I may say, I suggest looking into as many faiths and beliefs as you can, before determining your standing on it. If you're gonna be an atheist, then do this to understand them.
i love how you are good at verbalizing things i cannot!! i get too frustrated and give up. seeing this video gives me a little hope that the world isn't so insane after all. I'm not the only one who doesn't believe in a book written thousands of years ago. with no proof. so thanks again.
Colin Barr No, if you where not of Scottish blood nor ever been to the land it would be wrong to call yourself a scotsman . Your lack of understanding of the no true scottsman fallacy is evident .
TrueEmpiricism You would be right, however this person was a Christian. He believed that Jesus came to save everyone and he believed in god. Saying that because he now does not hold that belief that he was not a Christian is exactly a no true scotsman fallacy. (i.e. because of reason x he isn't really y)
Colin Barr Well, the bible is the lay out basically for what a christian is correct? Well, what does the bible say 1 Jon 2:19 : "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us."
***** A Christian is born from above. When babies are born, they remain human their whole life. Right? A Sheep remains a Sheep and never becomes a goat.
Excellent video! I once asked a pair of young ladies going from apartment to apartment in my complex spreading the word, "Would God exist if man didn't?" One immediately said NO! The other was silent. The young lady who said "no" reinforced my understanding that we created the concept of God at a time when we had little knowledge and understanding of our existence. Those times, however, are long gone. Still, many choose to believe in God because doing anything else is more difficult for them. Not those of us who don't believe (I used to also), but "them." That is why all the imaginary Gods continue to exist in this far more knowledgeable time. And that will slowly change, but slowly because humans change slowly. :)
I feel like I need to warn you all, before its to late. The reason for spontaneous self combustion is caused by listening to the ideas by creationists like josh feuerstein. So beware.
Daniel Calhoun Man as God ... beautiful ... that is something to fear ... Let's hope Computers will be running the world soon ... Computers don't have emotions ... at least not yet
I want to say thank you for this video. I'm also a Christian turned agnostic/athiest(depending on your definition). I have stopped arguing with Christians, their way of thinking is beyond my capacity to handle. It is beyond frustrating.
This is so full of win...I don't even know where to start. Well spoken, well reasoned, I honestly don't know where to finish complimenting your response video. You managed to nail, quite effectively, the fallacy of these "prove he doesn't exist" claims, challenges, and the like. Keep posting with logic. Well done sir.
I was at a big Star Trek convention in 1996. A man there told a group of us fans, as we were waiting for one of the events, that his Missouri farm had been repeatedly visited by aliens, and he had been abducted. This guy was really sincere. He wasn't trying to flim-flam us. He just had a genuinely held, but completely ludicrous, belief. We were all very polite to him, but none of us believed him, because his claim was preposterous, and he had no evidence. So much for "personal experience."
Ah Seth! I'm a long time fan of yours,but I've never commented (that I can remember). I really want to tell you this video is amazing. I think it will be hugely influential. You really schooled this poor poor man.
Any person who says that 'god' created a universe 'perfectly fine tuned' for human life should be thrown into the middle of the ocean immediately and then tell us how much of it is perfect for human life...
Thank you, Seth, for this beautifully worded, brilliantly succinct rebuttal. I had avoided watching it because of how utterly repulsive I find the subject if your rant here, but finally I watched it--an indication of my respect for your work. The questions you pose to this guy could be posed to any of the religiously indoctrinated. Not that it will have any effect on them, but to those open to actually using their mind, your words will have an impact. Well done.
I wish I could show this video to every christian person I know. Too bad they all look away and plug their ears as soon as i tell them what it is about. I was a catholic until I was 10 years old until I started asking questions about my religion that my mother, the one who forced me to believe in god, couldn't answer. Now Im athiest and Im proud. This video made me happy.
I am "thankful" for reasonable videos like this, and others by TTA, and the many others by former christians who are speaking out. I'm glad, Seth, that you're out there speaking up. I spent from 1971 to as late as 2010 trying like hell to make christianity make sense. I graduated from a now closed bible college, i went to a seminary, and served as a chaplain in the US Army Reserves. Then, I finally gave up completely after a christian pastor i respected wanted to know why i didn't support the Tea Party. I even tried quoting the NT to him, and he didn't want to hear it. Finally, i stood up, and said: "I FUCKING give up!" I left that table at that No. California Starbucks and have not looked back. But, the sad fact is: i wasted almost 40 years of my life on a flagrant, god damned lie. Keep up the good work. I always enjoy you, AronRa and Matt posting these videos. I hope this younger generation, that is moving up to take this country's reigns, will reign in this horrible, stone age, barbaric religion by ignoring it. ONly then, when we no longer buy the bullshit, it will .... fade away.
Pat Condell: "Prove God doesn’t exist...... That’s a tough one. Show me how it’s done by proving Zeus and Apollo don’t exist, and I’ll use your method."
Thanks for reminding me to check out his channel.
They live on mount Olympus we've seen the top of mount Olympus mind blown
George the hacker you have to believe before they reveal themselves to you.
...meanwhile Isis is passing thor a cup of tea while having a laugh about the christians and their "unique" god ;)
I did I let Jesus then Allah and everyone into my life and I went psyco. Not I'm agnostic. As a Christian I thought Jesus died so Christians could sin as much as they want, murder is a sin. Muslim is oppression of education of women and overall women's rights they each have extremist kkk, Isis. But there moral is not the same as ours. We know education is a right and murder isn't good, we don't need a old book to tell us what to believe. We don't need Scientologys money scam. We are sane people. Please let common sense into your life and use that curiosity for once.
Such an amazing video, spot on :)
is just me or dose he look like a fat Fred Durst ?
Excellent argument. To bad his opponent is a gibbering idiot and won't be able to comprehend it.
I'm not against anyone believing in a god. What I'm against is the organization by people of those beliefs into any type of politically guided, mass monetized social control system.
+Dill very insightful
Merle Patterson Religion is a business, every human being has the right to believe in a god, but not mafia should be allowed to work, i agree
I used to be a Christian and then one day woke up and realized how dumb it made me. People choose to believe in the bible because it helps them with their insecurities in life, it helps them feel powerful being God's child. I came to realize that the more questions I had and the more I prayed, no God was hearing me. My prayers never got answered and it only led to confusion.
Are you denying the existence of plush time-traveling teddy bears? How can you say that? Why are you dissing my religious beliefs.
darksidelead Oh right, just because they're plush that means they're care bears? That's racist. Come into the 21st century and stop stereotyping the plushies.
Michael Price Ted be with you.
MelkorHimself And also with you.
Michael Price it's 'and with your spirit' now. they changed it.
Matthew Ficocelli " it's 'and with your spirit' now. they changed it."
Heretic.
Justin Bieber has millions of views, that's your proof there is no god.
Either you failed at trolling or you are stupid as a brick, because you missed main point about this video
Wow, some people have no sense of humor. It was neither a troll nor a serious opinion. I understand the point; you can't prove there isn't a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow but that doesn't mean there is. Sound about right?
your humor is bad and you should feel bad
Jay Kline of what?
It works for me.
Oddly, the thing about this video that amazes me more than anything else is your ability to speak so clearly and purposefully for 11 and a half minutes seemingly without cuts or retakes and with only 2 barely noticeable pronunciation flubs. Did you memorize that entire speech???
That said, someone needs to issue a totally serious looking $100,000 "prove leprechauns don't exist" challenge in response to that guy.
stiimuli
He was a radio personality for 10 years, he's used to speaking in only one take.
He spent years in radio. He's a pro.
stiimuli
Or someone can just let him know that there has been a million dollar prize waiting for decades to teh first person who proves God DOES exist.
Seth Andrews is a brilliant speaker. He has a fantastic podcast and great videos. I would love to see him in person it would be awesome. Very patient to the outlandish responses and replies he gets from Christians as well.
I offer $100000 to anyone who can prove the Flying Spaghetti Monster does not exist.
Miranox spaghetti is an Italian food and the FSM bible was written by an american. therefore he is a hoax perpetrated by Americans in order to make fun of Italians. where is my $1,000,000 dollars :D
J. Cole
Yes, it was written by an American who received divine inspiration :)
Miranox I was touched by his noodle-y appendage.
Miranox I ate him. He doesn't exist......anymore
+Miranox Can you name one person who GENUINELY believes in the FSM? As opposed to many brilliant scientists and leaders who believe in the God of the Bible.
Such an eloquent response. Thank you for the much needed words of wisdom and reason you provide.
The most common answer I get when I ask Christians if they would kill their child upon God's request is, "Yes, but God wouldn't actually make me go through with it. He would stop me before I did, like Abraham".
sigh
Human sacrifice is in the Bible. Tell them to read Judges 11:29-40. The story of Jephthah's daughter.
Cortland Wheeler Human sacrifice in the bible that everybody has heard of.
Some guy named Jesus. You don't have to dig through the bible to find a reference, hell, a reminder is hanging front and center in every christian church ever. Ask a christian what Jesus did for them, and the auto-response is he died for them. It doesn't get more human sacrifice-ey than that.
Cortland Wheeler Took the words right out of my mouth. That's exactly what I was thinking of.
Jails across the country contain parents who killed their children because God told them to. Apparently God forgot to intervene and save the child. Must have been busy helping Joel Osteen's wife with her parking space.
I was a atheist growing up, but later became a christian when I heard pat robertson on tv.
JK, that doesn't happen
Pat Robertson ensured I'd never go back to Christianity ever again.
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Great voice.
TCBeads Yeah, he does have that perfect radio voice, and can even tackle video, as he is not ugly. Not a 10, by any means, but not ugly
You can tell he has a history in radio. ☺️
11 minutes of common sense.
God is as much real, as his $100,000.
HA!
Nice one
He should show us a bank statement. I'm not buying that 100,000 story on faith and faith alone.
Wow. Seth took the gloves off. Josh got his ass smashed.lol
***** Lol...I agree my friend. Gottta love watching these clowns get owned.
Hey Christians, if we came from dirt why is there still dirt?
You're walking on my future progeny.
Justin Webb XD
You were already way over Josh's head when you said, "hey, I'm Seth Andrews".
i'll give $1,000,000 to anyone that can prove the existence of a god ...
any takers ??
WOW !!! i never thought of that .. you're right .
man, do i feel like a fool .
i'm sure the wbc needs the funds since freddie has kicked the bucket , oops,hu,hum,cough,fart,puck,,,, i mean ''past away'' . god rest his soul .
Explain
I feel a tickle in my balls. Is that god too?
illusion of freedom Inwould like to point you to the DNA strand, evidence of god
Whats the chances of someone having a dream thats almost the same exact, big event which happens that morning?
Thats a simple short answer question for you to answer.
that guys like a Fred Durst Kevin James hybrid, we must destroy it!
Haha yess
If god doesnt exist then how do you explain your smooth as fuck voice!?
Checkmate atheists
Good one
damn... got me...
Admitting to not know something is not forbidden at all, and though assuming a god explains everything, it predicts nothing and is thereby useless.
You realize he was being sarcastic, right?
Well thought out video that my family would disown me for if I shared it. UGH. Being a former Christian is rough and I'm sure our struggles are similar. Keep doing what you do.
Same :)
Rock the boat! Jesus said he came to bring the sword, I say bring a .45.
6 years later I hope you're doing well, I have a similar situation.
Thank you
Your voice is just so relaxing, smooth, and something to listen to. Amazing channel.
You should do more videos like these alongside your podcasts Seth.
I wonder if Feuerstein has proven he actually has $100,000.
If he had the money, he would have already spent it at KFC by now.
You have to BELIEVE he has $100,000 then the cash will reveal itself to you. But you don't get to keep it until after you die.
***** lol
well, he is a pastor so...
I really hope someone who knows where he lives, confronts him in person and asks him for some stipulations for his challenge. Specifically, how he defines god. Possibly getting him to sign something saying he'd pay up the 100k if he was proven wrong. He might be too fearful of negative feedback if he refused to back his bet, that he might actually sign documentation.
Given that the god of the bible actually contains contradictions, you can actually prove that he doesn't exist as described. Get a signed document, make the proof, and take him to court when he doesn't pay up.
Seth.. thank you.. I appreciate you standing up! This video was sent out to my friends and family. ..woot woot keep up the awesome work.
Oh the sweet sound of reason! Hallelujah brother TTA :)
I exist. You exist. Dogs exist. The world exists. Where is my $100,000?
Dear religious individuals:
Why do you place your beliefs in a pedestal? By that I mean, why are you skeptical about all sorts of things like politics and sports but not about religion? Think about it, if your faith is so strong why don't you dare corroborate the claims that have been spoon-fed to you since you were a child? For example, did Adam and Eve exist? We certainly can't corroborate that historically but we can hypothesize that a population of 2 individuals in ANY species has little to no chance of surviving, and zero chance of becoming this abundant in just a few thousand years. Then, you can follow-up with a logical statement such as: If Adam and Eve couldn't have existed, then there is no original sin, if there is no original sin, then there is no real reason for a sacrifice and finally, if there is no real reason for a sacrifice, then Christianity has been falsified. Now, people will tell you that they don't take Genesis literally, that they take it metaphorically. Most people that say this don't even have a clue as to what a metaphor is...so I guess I will tell you. First of all, a metaphor is a figure of speech, in other words a tool to convey meaning. There are metaphors in the bible but the objective will always be to give the meaning of one word to another like referring to god as a shepherd which begs the question, why would anyone get mad when they are called sheep? People want to feel as if they can lead themselves, but let's realize that this is a process. Each of us is born ignorant of the world around us, lets compare that to this fact: Christianity, at least in the US has a lot invested in education, private schools since the Separation of Church and State prohibits the advocacy of any given religion by state funded programs. You have such things as Sunday Schools and Baptism making sure that children start believing in god as soon as possible. Astounding, since that is the only way I can conceive one would believe such utter non-sense. On top of that, it is not enough that they believe a god exists, they have to fear as well. Because god is like Freddy Kruger, he needs our fear for his mere existence to be possible. In the past, fear was instilled by ignorance and violence, not much has changed except the downgrade of violence to a more socially oriented violence like bullying and ostracizing. Well, at least we are not being burned at the stake anymore. Any other system of ideas that would even dare to go to such measures to try and keep their people faithful would surely be ridiculed out of the county, but religion has always been placed in a pedestal, with a don't touch sing. The less you contemplate it, the less you think about it, the easier life will be for you. However, you are between that and living a lie. You choose. Eventually you will get out of the woods, but you will never get back the time lost pretending.
Not every Christian out there is a cradle-Christian who accepts christianity merely because they've been told to.
Jacob K so what is your excuse?
Hector Flores there are many reasons why I'm a Christian. But to name a few would be stability, purpose, value for others, and a moral code to follow
Jacob K fair enough, I just hope you realize that you can obtain that without having to believe the extraordinary claims Christianity requires you to believe. I'm pretty sure you've heard this before but there are millions of atheists out there that are living stable, meaningful, moral lives without a deity.
Hector Flores it is very difficult to live a stable, meaningful life when you have nobody to support you throughout the way.
I was a Sunday school teacher when I was in college. This video was the first one that got me thinking and following the yellow brick road out of oz 4 years ago. You have my not so eternal gratefulness.
I'll give 100,000 Monopoly dollars to the person who can prove there is not a china teapot in an elliptical orbit between Earth and Mars that is too small to be spotted by any human telescope.
That teapot fell out of orbit, landed on the trampoline in my backyard, and I caught it on the third bounce.
It's now in my china cabinet, pay up.
Luckystrike
Pics or didn't happen
MarklenIngyer
I can't find my camera.
I think it's in orbit somewhere between Earth and Mars. I've looked everywhere else.[:
Brilliant.
you are wrong: the teapot orbits between the earth & venus!
i mean, who wants cold tea?
"Flightless animals with wings"
Aron Ra actually gives an explanation for why this is possible, and why the first animals with wings were in fact flightless. Wings were likely used by dinosaurs to cover their eggs and keep them warm, and thus they could support a much larger clutch than they could without wings. Wings have purposes beyond flight in many animals. Everything else you mentioned, however, are true vestiges and can only be explained through evolution.
I wasn't speaking at that moment about evolution. I was speaking to "design."
all nicely explained, but has nothing to do with Seth's statement in the video :) please watch again.
Many flightless birds today evolved from birds that did fly in the past.
Bryce William turkeys and chickens are not flightless.
It is obvious that the first animals with wings *must* have been flightless. Otherwise, the opposite must have been true: there were flying animals with no wings, that evolved wings afterwards. I wonder how exactly they flew :)
Some animals gained the ability to fly once they developed wings, taking advantage of the fact that they did have wings (not the other way around). Maybe those wings were not evolutionarily discarded long before actually being suitable for flying because they provided some benefit, such as stabilization while running.
Let's suppose that a god of some kind DOES materialize. It's this glowing, floating mass that can communicate telepathically in all languages simultaneously. It appears before everyone at once and says, "I am everything."
Do you know what would happen next?
The Christians would be quick to say this was their god, Yahweh. Muslims would declare it Allah. Hindus would declare it Vishnu. Everyone would see THEIR god in it, and would be quick to accept this appearance as evidence.
Meanwhile, the Atheist would say, "Hmm. Well, I guess there IS a god out there. But we still don't know if it correlates to any of the world's religions. I did not see a name tag."
An atheist would ask - is this an alien? Why would the religious assume it's a god?
This was inspiring. I love his calm logic and the questions he asked. Great video, absolutely loved it!
Prove god doesn't exist. Okay, done.
Now prove me wrong.
Yep a leprechaun
the burden of proof is with the oe that is making the positive claim. You can't prove a negative
I prefer the Prometheus movie version of a creator(s) Waay more interesting anyway
I used to think that Christianity stole the Prometheus story somehow.Because the story I heard was that Lucifer take the shape of the snake and convinced Eve to eat the apple.Offering the humans knowledge.Just the way Prometheus stole the fire and gave it to the humans.
MadBrainBox Oh i meant the movie Prometheus :)
Nitrobucket Dude that would be awesome. Though terrifying because we would have face raping aliens
Christian here. I appreciate your thoughts, your clarity, and your calm response. This is the type of response that will get us talking instead of bickering. Well done. And, as I'm sure you have heard before, I am praying to God that you may know Jesus Christ and once again believe his claims.
Wow. This comment section is literally filled with theists making a huge effort to shift the burden of proof away from their claim that a god exists.
I think most of them know what they are doing but have decided that dishonest discourse is allowed when in defense of their invisible superfriend.
You have the voice of a god; (ironically) you sound like the radio host on Silent Hills P.T. Keep up the good work!
JaySpacey fuck that was a good demo. Sucks they scrapped it
HydraLinsK Yeah It's too bad :(
JaySpacey del toro and kojima are both working on a joint project together. nothing is known about it except it exists.
I love that "hide and seek champion" remark.
As an aspiring broadcaster, I will say that your voice and oration skills are outstanding! I hope to hear you in a wider platform soon.
ITS A TRAP!
You can't prove a negative.
"A god who is the hide and seek champion of the universe" - that line just had me in stitches
What "theory" means in ordinary speech:
The term "theory" means a very different thing when used in everyday conversation and in science. In our day to day speech, we often use "theory" to mean a guess or unsubstantiated idea about how something works (as in "I have a theory that gremlins are hiding my car keys").
In science, we would call such a guess a hypothesis, not a theory. A hypothesis is a proposed explanation for an observation. In this case, I am proposing that the explanation for why I can't find my car keys is that gremlins are hiding them.*
The distinction between the words "Theory" and "Hypothesis" is very important because in science "Theory" does not mean "guess". I repeat, "Theory" does not mean "guess".
So, what does the word "theory" mean in science?
According to the National Academies of Sciences, "some scientific explanations are so well established that no new evidence is likely to alter them. The explanation becomes a scientific theory. In everyday language a theory means a hunch or speculation. Not so in science. In science, the word theory refers to a comprehensive explanation of an important feature of nature supported by facts gathered over time. Theories also allow scientists to make predictions about as yet unobserved phenomena".
People who don't understand this distinction sometimes dismiss ideas saying "it's just a theory" (this is very commonly used to suggest that evolution is just speculation, for example). But, when scientists speak of the theory of gravity or the theory of evolution, they don't mean that these are random untested ideas that someone came up with after too many beers.
The AAAS (American Association for the Advancement of Science), the world's largest scientific society, has this explanation of what scientists mean when they use the word "theory":
" A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world."
We need to spread this around so that the scientific illiterate know the difference.
+Eagle I'm pretty sure that at least most of them understand the word theory by now, both the scientific and common usage. Just as I'm sure they understand the word atheist. It's just more convenient at this point to stick to their script. After all its much easier to argue with a straw man than actual ideas. However, if someone genuinely does not understand I agree we should shed some light on this. Although, so far every time I've tried to explain it, I've noticed they prefer to use their preconceived notions.
Eagle 👌😊👏👏👏👏👏👏
Yes indeed - common parlance is wrong.
Maybe worth giving this link: notjustatheory.com/
The creationtards will still lie, but now they know for sure they're lying.
hide and seek champion... lol
Walter White Walt! We NEED to cook!
Neb ontha sorry, i dont use partners anymore.
Well said sir. Very eloquently and no offensive words. two thumbs up for you.
who here would buy a used car from Josh Feauerstein. because thats all he is.. its called SNAKEOIL
+jeremybr2020 I've heard stories of cows getting hit by cars and being totaly fine, the cars on the other hand, it'd probably be a bit like that.
Nerdy Nachos
Cows and Josh Feuerstein.......yep, I can see the similarities there. lol You know I'm probably being a little unfair here. So I would like to take this opportunity to apologize........to the cows. I'm so very sorry cows for comparing you to the likes of Josh Feuerstein. I realize you cows are much more attractive and not nearly as annoying to hang out with as is the case with Josh F. It shan't happen again. :)
William Strumfels
I'll grant you that it certainly doesn't help. However Josh Feuerstein is small potatoes compared to the likes of Donald Trump. Now there's someone who's proving by the millions how stupid some of my fellow Americans can be.
maybe it how our great country comes to a end. just how many safe guards are there against these loons?
@William Srumfels
*proof* >.>
Let me just say I am jealous of your speaking voice and on camera presence and how you got this all done in one take.
thank you Seth. great to hear you.
Its like saying "prove that Santa Claus doesn't exists". SMH such a lazy and dishonest way to prove your point.
this video help me with thoughts i've been trying to put words to. i was born and raised catholic, but have been steadily losing my faith. it just doesn't make sense to me anymore. the fact that so many religions exist makes me skeptical because they all have faith they are right, but when we all die a bunch of people are going to be pissed off that they were wrong. I'd rather live my life as full as I can, and if there is some being out there that wants me to do stuff for him I'd rather him tell me than leave it to supposed interpreters of old texts to tell me. cuz if he doesn't exist, then religion and faith were just a complete waste of my short life. i'd rather live it on my terms.
exactly. nobody really knows what happens when you die besides decomposition. i'd rather utilize the life i have now
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Actually, according to the bible, even if we live good lives, we aren't christian; therefore, we deserve the same fate that murderers, rapists, and thieves get. Well, at least murderers, rapists, and thieves that didn't do those things under the bible.
If I may say, I suggest looking into as many faiths and beliefs as you can, before determining your standing on it. If you're gonna be an atheist, then do this to understand them.
garbagehead how does your search go after a few years?
i love how you are good at verbalizing things i cannot!! i get too frustrated and give up. seeing this video gives me a little hope that the world isn't so insane after all. I'm not the only one who doesn't believe in a book written thousands of years ago. with no proof. so thanks again.
Your voice is a pleasure to listen to sir.
If you're not a Christian now, you never were… You better think again.
So a no true scotsman fallacy eh?
Colin Barr No, if you where not of Scottish blood nor ever been to the land it would be wrong to call yourself a scotsman . Your lack of understanding of the no true scottsman fallacy is evident .
TrueEmpiricism
You would be right, however this person was a Christian. He believed that Jesus came to save everyone and he believed in god.
Saying that because he now does not hold that belief that he was not a Christian is exactly a no true scotsman fallacy. (i.e. because of reason x he isn't really y)
Colin Barr Well, the bible is the lay out basically for what a christian is correct? Well, what does the bible say 1 Jon 2:19 : "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us."
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A Christian is born from above. When babies are born, they remain human their whole life. Right? A Sheep remains a Sheep and never becomes a goat.
Excellent video!
I once asked a pair of young ladies going from apartment to apartment in my complex spreading the word, "Would God exist if man didn't?" One immediately said NO! The other was silent.
The young lady who said "no" reinforced my understanding that we created the concept of God at a time when we had little knowledge and understanding of our existence. Those times, however, are long gone.
Still, many choose to believe in God because doing anything else is more difficult for them. Not those of us who don't believe (I used to also), but "them." That is why all the imaginary Gods continue to exist in this far more knowledgeable time. And that will slowly change, but slowly because humans change slowly. :)
Offer $150,000 if he can prove God DOES exist.
Then sit back and enjoy the show.
:-)
Damn, this guy is good.
I feel like I need to warn you all, before its to late. The reason for spontaneous self combustion is caused by listening to the ideas by creationists like josh feuerstein. So beware.
Been following you for a while. Thank you. You do it well!!!! And I so agree- keep it going, because it is hard. Well done, sir!
If we're made in god's image why aren't we invisible?
thatdevilguy ha ha ha ha loved it. As far as I can tell, we are invisible to all gods.
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I wonder if Mr. Feuerstein looks in the mirror, and thinks, 'So this is what God looks like'?
omg first time ive been to this channel WHERE DID HE GET THAT VOICE its fuckin AWESOME i wish i had a voice like that >.>
It's like the voice of God! :-)
***** I think your on to something...
Daniel Calhoun Man as God ... beautiful ... that is something to fear ... Let's hope Computers will be running the world soon ... Computers don't have emotions ... at least not yet
reference2me lol what? Computers do have emotions, my computer hates me... :(
Please applaud this man
I'm disappointed that I was the first like on this comment
Feuerstein, a true blue believer?....You are referring to Money, right?
+energyquicksand Yup. He's all about building a massive audience to have his own sacred cash cow mega church.
This Josh Frankenstein should be stopped before he actually can influence children of gullible Christian parents.
Outstanding, as usual!
An excellent rebuttal. Clear and concise.
You forgot something. You know who else gets millions of views?
Atheists.
Guess we know who's the most humble among us.
+Clayton Ousley
I don't know whether that was a jab at atheists or fundamentalist Christians.
Not a jab at atheists at all.
+Clayton Ousley Blessed are the humble for they shall inherit the earth. Religitards will no doubt all burn in hell. Ya know that fairy tale place.
I could listen to you talk all day
Man, I love your cadence and how you do your videos..
Brilliant. Look forward to more
A truly excellent speech!
I want to say thank you for this video. I'm also a Christian turned agnostic/athiest(depending on your definition). I have stopped arguing with Christians, their way of thinking is beyond my capacity to handle. It is beyond frustrating.
Love your logic! :D I have tried to express this concept many times to religious people for years and years now.
This is so full of win...I don't even know where to start. Well spoken, well reasoned, I honestly don't know where to finish complimenting your response video. You managed to nail, quite effectively, the fallacy of these "prove he doesn't exist" claims, challenges, and the like. Keep posting with logic. Well done sir.
I don't think I've ever heard someone so eloquently and concisely sum up the atheist position. Well done, Seth.
This started out treading familiar water, but then got pretty awesome. Well done, dude.
Seth's voice pours into my ears like full fat milk.
Wonderfully well put together rebuttal
I grew up listening to you on KXOJ. Small world!
I was at a big Star Trek convention in 1996. A man there told a group of us fans, as we were waiting for one of the events, that his Missouri farm had been repeatedly visited by aliens, and he had been abducted. This guy was really sincere. He wasn't trying to flim-flam us.
He just had a genuinely held, but completely ludicrous, belief. We were all very polite to him, but none of us believed him, because his claim was preposterous, and he had no evidence.
So much for "personal experience."
Ah, you're awesome Seth! Thanks for existing.
A population that understands science and math could not be controlled by the few who would exploit their ignorance.
Thank you Thank you Thank you!
Ah Seth! I'm a long time fan of yours,but I've never commented (that I can remember). I really want to tell you this video is amazing. I think it will be hugely influential. You really schooled this poor poor man.
Andrews has a real gift for wording.
very nicely done man I wish I was as succinct and eloquent as you
I love this video Mr.Seth, it made me think.
That which can be presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-- Aristotle
Wow, Seth. You totally killed it with this one. Well done, sir!
Any person who says that 'god' created a universe 'perfectly fine tuned' for human life should be thrown into the middle of the ocean immediately and then tell us how much of it is perfect for human life...
Seth, one of my true heros.
Thank you!
Well done TTA!!! I could not have said it better.....
Thank you, Seth, for this beautifully worded, brilliantly succinct rebuttal. I had avoided watching it because of how utterly repulsive I find the subject if your rant here, but finally I watched it--an indication of my respect for your work. The questions you pose to this guy could be posed to any of the religiously indoctrinated. Not that it will have any effect on them, but to those open to actually using their mind, your words will have an impact. Well done.
I wish I could show this video to every christian person I know. Too bad they all look away and plug their ears as soon as i tell them what it is about. I was a catholic until I was 10 years old until I started asking questions about my religion that my mother, the one who forced me to believe in god, couldn't answer. Now Im athiest and Im proud. This video made me happy.
I am "thankful" for reasonable videos like this, and others by TTA, and the many others by former christians who are speaking out. I'm glad, Seth, that you're out there speaking up. I spent from 1971 to as late as 2010 trying like hell to make christianity make sense. I graduated from a now closed bible college, i went to a seminary, and served as a chaplain in the US Army Reserves. Then, I finally gave up completely after a christian pastor i respected wanted to know why i didn't support the Tea Party. I even tried quoting the NT to him, and he didn't want to hear it. Finally, i stood up, and said: "I FUCKING give up!" I left that table at that No. California Starbucks and have not looked back. But, the sad fact is: i wasted almost 40 years of my life on a flagrant, god damned lie. Keep up the good work. I always enjoy you, AronRa and Matt posting these videos. I hope this younger generation, that is moving up to take this country's reigns, will reign in this horrible, stone age, barbaric religion by ignoring it. ONly then, when we no longer buy the bullshit, it will .... fade away.
thanks for this - i love the way you get your points across
Amazing video. Thank you.
Thank you.
You articulate it so well, Seth.