Should You Buy Or Print Your Miniatures?
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- This month we introduce Neto and Felipe, who work here at Loot Studios, and will talk about some of the differences between buying a miniature from a store and printing it at home.
We tried to answer some of your most frequently asked questions, as well as giving some of our honest opinions about printing miniatures at home.
For a more in-depth overview of the whole process of printing miniatures at home, make sure to check out our complete tutorial at • RESIN 3D PRINTING GUID...
Don't agree with our analysis? Have more questions, suggestions or tips? Want to help us make better content? Make sure to leave a comment below! We really appreciate your feedback.
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Anyone watching this, and reading this comment should know that after scouring the web for sites that offer miniatures for print, including kickstarter, that the folks at Loot have some of THE best sculpts available....period. The best and biggest surprise as a 3d printer of tabletop figures, as well as larger scale (just because I like to paint them) is that every model is presupported perfectly. I mean perfectly....in both scales....with a hollow option....and chitubox version included. The folks at Loot who are supporting and sculpting their models are doing a crusher job. I hope you guys keep up the stellar work, and continue to offer these monthly subscriptions, because they are all I need now.... I don't have to look anywhere else for exceptional sculpts that are ridiculously easy to remove. I would also like to say that I am in no way affiliated with Loot, nor have they contacted/paid me to say this lol. They're just that good!
thanks so much, Veronica! This is why we work hard every day, it means a lot to us!
I am new to the resin 3D word and as of January 1 2022 this comment is still valid! I am in love with Loot studios and I can't wait until their next big sale (like black friday) to buy their back catalod of minis!
Lord of the Print also has super amazing prints! I love their sculpts for custom abominations for Zombicide games!
@@LootStudios Isnt her name Sadie?
Bite the bullet is one you should check out.
@J Yeah, at 28mm it can be tough sometimes...also, lately their supports are garbage. Oversupported to the point where the amount of damage destroys the sculpts. Why put all that time into sculpting beautiful minis if you're going to just slap chop the supports on them and call it a day. It's the main reason i cancelled my sub with them :(
Loot is the reason I got a 3d printer I own all there files. Hands down nothing out there is comparable on the market. Loot member for life
Just ordered a phrozen mini 4k just because it is their favourite (afaik)
Agreed!!!
I was also on the fence about buying a 3d printer, until I saw there collection. My 3d printer is on its way as we speak!!! (Sadly I don't own all of there collection because I found out about them to late :( )
@@spankcak3s remember that you can buy old sets as a subscriber for 30$ per set. I stumbled upon loot thanks to blackmagiccraft in october 20 and got the earlier sets later on
@@ChaosAptom Oh wow great. I did not know that. Ty for telling me. Im going to definitly buy some when my printer is in!!!
Sounds like me trying to justify my 3D printing to my wife, lol. Great work guys!
In my case it was my wife’s idea. He thought it would be cheaper if I print my Minis instead of spending money on them.
Do you remember the first time your DVD came in the mail and you realized 1) you'd never have to go to the video store to pick up another movie and 2) no more late fees ? or when you did not have to wait to watch your favorite movie because its now streaming? My personal fav is the day I realized I could stay home and download a game at midnight rather wait out in the cold at Gamestop. 3D printing is all of the above. The power I wield did not dawn on me till I printed and primed my first mini. I held that Dwaf in my hand and all I can think about was "Finally Student has become Master, I am Gameswork!" .
You guys are awesome at Loot.I have been from day 1 as a subscriber with Loot, had tons of Patreons but dropped all of them and continued with Loot.I'm not a tabletop gamer, i print, paint and collect the 75mm scale.Keep it up and running guys.You're awesome!!!
The intro alone in this video was worth the like and follow
I just got my resin 3d printer a few weeks ago, but I've been buying models for a few years now, and I have to say that so far, Loot and Archvillain Games are the 2 most impressive companies when it comes to high quality minis. I can't wait to see what is in store for the next year with Loot
Over the last year we have printed over 500 miniatures in 32mm and now we are printing large items like Lady Harpy most are from Loot Studios. We have a Mono-X and it has paid for its self. We also have an ender 3 pro we use for terrain pieces of which we have about 40 large terrain items printed and it has paid for its self as well. That’s just our personal collection. We have also printed many great minis for friends such as boss monsters and Hero Forge custom minis. With out the printers we could never have afforded all that. Now if you’ll excuse me I have a LOT of painting to do. Happy Printing
I don't even have a 3d Printer yet and I already subscribed both monthly and on here!!! Amazing Work!!!
@Applix until the printer comes in....LOL.
I just finished the 75mm scale ogre and heroes from the February bundle. They turned out amazing and with so little effort. The pre-supported files from loot have all printed beautifully! I am very happy that I subscribed to loot.
Great video! Liked and subscribed.
RESIN PRINTING ALL DAY EVERYDAY!
Thank you for this information. Been thinking about this.
I love your guy's voices! Thanks heaps for the helpful information!
I love loot studios keep up all the great work
Haha , I like the indirect promotion you made of your loot subscription, more people with printers more potencial customers, but ey, pretty fair guys :)
I loved the video guys great content
Thank you for these great tips Loot! Your video's are wonderful for the miniature hobby community. I do have some feedback. The video and camera quality in this episode is amazing. The audio quality however isn't great, especially for headphone users. Were the lavalier microphones configured properly? It is better if your voices are recorded in mono instead of stereo. With the current stereo recording the audio is unpleasant to listen to on headphones. One second you hear voices from the left ear, a couple of seconds later you hear voices from the right ear. The volume is also not normalized, this could mean that the left ear sounds are a lot louder than the right ear sounds. For the listener it feels like they have gone deaf on 1 ear every time one of you speaks. With mono recording the voices will come out with the same volume for both ears. Hope you guys can improve the sound quality in your new video's, I have noticed this problem in multiple video's that have people speaking. Have a great day and keep making wonderful video's!
nice video guys,im looking to get a printer, i do think you need to turn the music down abit,
O sotaque não deixa dúvidas da nacionalidade xD
Mas vlw caras, vídeo foda... estou pensando em começar a me aventurar nessa jornada de printar minis pra RPG, sempre joguei mais no "teatro da mente", mas de uns tempos pra cá a vontade de montar uma coleção de terrenos e miniaturas, junto com o prazer que eu tenho fazendo DIY me levaram a ter vontade de começar com o Hobby.
percebi a mesma coisa kkkk mas será que a loja toda é BR? ou só os apresentadores do canal?
Yes very asian...
oh no I know I would love to print a lot .. I mean A LOOT of minis but I dont have 3 D printer .. I just dont have space for it and money ;)
There is also a lot of options to choose from so I ask two things here.
Wich one printer is the best for your stl minis ?
Second questionn .. sugestion / favour : Can I buy minis from Loot ? .. directly from you not from some 3rd party 3D printer !
What are the electricity costs monthly for it and what about costs of preparing place for 3d printer? it is not like you can just use in in your bedroom with no problem
Unfortunately my shop only allows games workshop bits in our games. I am also uncomfortable with the thought of toxic residues in my house that are difficult to dispise of.
Very nice video, thank you. There is only 1 BIG question left there not replied: where to find enough of free time necessary for printing, cleaning, painting, ... all of these miniatures and for a new adventure, when I' m not anle to find enough of free time for assembling and painting of all my models, already bought.😉🤣🤣🤣😱
Agreed!
My pile of shame is now digital, and 10 times bigger
I wanted to ask how are your models prepared for printing in FDM printers? Resin is cool, but without the proper place to use and print it can be really hazardous… ☹️ so, for someone who has to go with FDM printer what are your suggestions? Is Loot subscription a way to go for because they also support FDM printers? Or should I plan to move to be able to print in resin 😂😂😂
Simple: Do you own a printer: yes, then print it. no, then buy it.
good video!
Hello bro can you made video..how to export file from zbrush to 3d printer...❓
Hi, very good video, thank you! just one question: can i know what are you using to clean the "home" at min 6.20? seem like a dremel but with what "head"? thank you a lot!
Hi Lorenzo, we use a Mini Electric Rectifier, some people use it to polish fingernails I think
Looks like one of those pink sanding tips you get with a lot of Dremel/Dremel clone kits.
personally, I prefer to buy the STLs because it supports small artists, and you can get very unique models. I also 3d print dice so i might be a bit biased...
I would so love to get a resin printer. But I don't have space for it, except of the living room, where two small kids and two cats are rounding around. :(
Thank you 😃
The resin LCD screens are a huge hassle and expense, as they only last about 70hrs, and if you struggle to get good prints, like me, about half of that time will be lost to failed miniatures. It makes me wonder if it's worth it.
may i find this models which you show? and with supports
I'm confused if you have to use gloves when handling the minis that mean you have to use gloves when playing with them too? Like using them at a table?
hello Trevor, no, of course not! The gloves are needed just when the miniature leaves the printer, when the resin is still wet! After curing you are safe to go :)
That's cool
(ou em nossa língua "maneirão hein")
in the case of resins, there is also the service life of the display and the foil
In my opinion you should buy the models IF you are gaming with them, keep the company that spawned the game afloat.
The print files you find online are supplied unreliably and get struck down- and often as not by the stakeholders of the company that put money and effort into making them.
Can they be expensive?-a little, but compare that to the games being completely unavailable in a decade or so.
I am wanting to print out the new series. I read in your info it takes a lot of resin. How much resin do I need to purchase running 75mm size and the house. I usually buy 1K bottles. I don't want to run out of resin.
Why not both?
I would love to work somewhere like loot studios. Do you have any advice for a 3D modeler trying to get into this sort or field?
I enjoyed the music
I know that if I drop a bought mini off the table it will have minimal to no damage. Especially if it lands on carpet. Does this hold true for resin minis too? Seeing them like this I get the impression that are very fragile or will not stand the test of time. I know I can always print another one but if I spend tens of hours painting one I would be very upset if it broke after a couple of games.
Found your ad dope and funny, GL with the business m8's.
If we don't have a 3d printer could we go to a local business to print for us?
This is like McDonalds representatives comparing eating out vs cooking.
To be fair it's cheaper to eat at home and cook your stuff.
I enjoy printing their models, though personally I prefer to use my own supports vs their pre made supports. I have less fails that way.
Estou adorando as minis, só sofrendo em tentar imprimi-las em uma ender 3v2 haha
Get a cheap resin printer 😭😭😭😭 it's worth it
estou procurando algo sobre cursos do alvaro algum link pra passar? agradeço
www.alvaro3d.com.br/cursobasico =)
Hi everyone I have a question. Can I print these on my ender 3 printer if I do not have a resin printer???
Same question. I was wondering to buy a Ender 3...as i probably will build more cenery and larger pieces, think that a filament printer wuold be better to me...but i would apreciate to know if it will be possible to print those mini. I understand that woul be a lot of more cleaning work,...
Any specific resin brands that you recommend. Have the printer. Have the subscription. Love both. Looking for a slightly better resin maybe.
Personally, I use Elegoo Mars with their water washable resin. It's a little more expensive ($35-40) but it works great for me. I've heard Amera Labs is really good, but haven't tried them.
As a constructive critique: Maybe turn down the constant war music a little. It's kind of distracting.
olá
How do I assemble the house, there's only photos of it completed. I need like a manual or something
For FDM it is fairly straight forward and there is color coded image showing where the parts go. I don't know if they provide the same for resin.
@@JeremyStreich I use an Elegoo mars resin printer. But I believe after a couple of tries I've gotten it down. Using the 3D video they included to puzzle it together.
It'd be nice with an Ikea kind of guide however
I’m thinking of getting the Elegoo Mars 2 Pro. Is that a good one? If not, which one would you guys say for around 300 US dollars?
Also... Will I need a UV light to cure it?
Hello Kelly, how are you doing? Well, we have a Sonic Mini from Phrozen that costs around 200$ and we are getting amazing results. About the UV Light, you could use the sun to cure your miniatures, but it would take more time especially in rainy days.
Are Felipe and Neto sculpting for Loot?
First thing, can you stand getting a resin burn? You have two options; one exposing the resin to UV which will burn the shit out of you and fuse the plastic into your skin, or two, you can leave the resin and it causes a histamine reaction like poison ivy.
All I can say is neither one is good.
Eu estava escrevendo esse comentário em inglês mas achei que teria sido completamente contraditório ao que eu estava criticando, então apaguei e estou escrevendo novamente agora em português.
Este não é um problema que eu tenho, já que entendo inglês perfeitamente, mas acho uma falta de respeito com os fãs brasileiros (que acredito ser grande parte dos seguidores, já que a maioria conheceu a Loot pelo Álvaro) você não terem praticamente nenhum conteúdo em português, o site, as postagens todas em inglês (não é difícil fazer essas coisas bilingue), e nem uma legenda nos vídeos? Sla, entendo que o mercado para impressão de miniaturas em casa/e até mesmo para produção em grande escala é pequeno no Brasil, mas acho também uma super falta de respeito com os fãs brasileiros que sempre seguiram os vídeos e lives no canal do Álvaro, que se destacava exatamente por isso, conteúdo de qualidade, unico e em português, coisa que tem pouco disponível para nós.
Termino dizendo que acho esse projeto da Loot incrivel, e só não assino pois não possuo uma impressora (que já está na lista de compras para assim que sobrar uma grana), um abraço a todos.
Sabe o que é engraçado eu escutava eles falando e sempre notava um sotaque mas só notei que são baileiros pelos nomes nesse vídeo kkk
Fala Tadeu, tudo certo cara? Venho aqui tomando a liberdade de responder em nome do time de conteúdo da Loot. Eu entendo a sua frustração, a gente gosta demais do público brasileiro e pra nós seria muito prazeroso poder fazer os vídeos em portugues, além de ser nossa língua natal, é como nos comunicamos todo dia então muitas das coisas que pensamos são difíceis de levar para o inglês, contudo, como você mesmo disse, hoje o mercado brasileiro ainda é muito pequeno, as impressoras de resina ainda estão chegando timidamente e muito caras no país, além de termos problemas com importação de resina, manutenção de impressoras e até mesmo preparação do mercado mesmo. Realmente no início grande parte de nossos seguidores eram brasileiros mas hoje nosso maior público é internacional.
No caso desse vídeo em específico, todos os valores são em dólar, calculados à partir de orçamentos realizados fora, então realmente é algo para o público global, saca?
Nosso time ainda está em construção e temos nos esforçado muito para conseguir entregar tudo o que produzimos hoje em um idioma. Por fim eu realmente espero que com o tempo, quando o mercado brasileiro já estiver mais maduro, possamos produzir também conteúdo pra cá, mas até lá o que é mais viável para nós como empresa é nos comunicar com o mercado com um potencial legal, para que possamos crescer e melhorar cada vez mais o nível da nossa entrega. Obrigado pelo feedback e qualquer dúvida pode me procurar que estou a disposição para conversar.
Grande abraaço!
Bem, eu tambem fiquei relutando para mandar uma mensagem, mas aí vai. Como vocês mesmo disseram, o mercado brasileiro é pequeno, as coisas são todas mais caras e etc... Então vocês poderiam ajudar um pouco o nosso mercado e criar uma assinatura com valor diferente para o Brasil. 15 dolares pra um americano/europeu não é nem de longe a mesma coisa que 15 dolares x 6, + 6,38% iof, + flutuação, etc, para um brasileiro... Na hora da cobrança, a steam no Brasil não converte o dolar pelo preço 'cheio', a Apple tb nao. O trabalho de vocês é sensacional... o nível de detalhe é realmente impressionante, até a expressão nos rostos são fantásticas. FIquei procurando um patreon ou similar que coubesse no meu bolso e tivesse o nível de voces e simplesmente não existe. Então fica aí minha súplica pra vocês considerarem a hipótese de fazer uma assinatura em valor fixo em real, com um link que voces só precisariam divulgar videos de conteúdo em portugues... Vocês não perderiam nada, e nem vou dizer que vocês ganhariam muita coisa não, porque a gente sabe que brasileiro prefere mesmo é coisa de graça, mas pelo menos poderiam bater no peito dizendo que entendem a realidade de onde vcs vieram e imagino (e torço) que ganhariam alguns assinantes brasileiros que nao tem como se comprometer todo mes com um valor que a gente nem sabe quanto vai dar, mas sabe dar valor pra um trabalho de qualidade. Enquanto isso, fico baixando os modelos de graça que voces soltam por aí 😂😂 E mandei no meio de um video velho pra não ficar criando confusão. Parabéns pela qualidade das miniaturas, de verdade.
Loved the video. But the music is too loud. I should really concentrate to understand what you are saying. In my opinion you should get rid of the music.
3D Printed Tomb of Horrors demonstrates how to print minis with FDM which is overall easier turn resign. Also, DragonRest has an entire dungeon set, dock, guild hall and more for $6
if you're wanting terrain or possibly 75mm figures, an FDM printer is great. The vast majority who subscribe to LOOT primarily do so to print 32mm scale minis and then there's just absolutely no comparison between resin and FDM, they're not even close. Dungeon tiles compared to minis is pretty apples and oranges too so the price comparison means next to nothing; the detail per sculpt here is INSANE and a resin printer reproduces it perfectly, plus each month includes every model pre-supported at both 32mm and 75mm. If you just want a basic representative form and aren't at all bothered about a good surface for painting then I guess FDM is fine, otherwise keep that for terrain and join us in resin-world :D
@@cjlake5754 Have you checked out Printed Tomb of Horrors? FDM printers can be dialed in to excel well pass basic prints. The 3D print tomb of horror folks even share their Cura settings.
Try it out first and let me know if it’s still basic. I am making great miniatures with it as of today
@@joshuapicaro8726 Possibly 'they're not even close' was a touch hyperbolic as i have indeed seen some pretty good FDM results on smaller minis. They do seem to require a lot more finagling and part upgrades than an out of the box resin printer but yeah, good results are possible. My main points though were that if printing primarily small high detailed minis a resin printer is probably the best bet, but mainly that I don't think $15 is at all unreasonable per month for what you get.
amazing...
Is there a way to purchase your older collections? Went through some of the past months & love some of the groups!
Yes it's possible! You could get the old bundles in our site or the miniatures separately in MyMiniFactory!
I GM when my group can meet (not as often as I'd like), so a 3D printer is not a good option for me; I just wouldn't have much use for it anyway. I can't find minis neither on stores nor online. I'm willing to pay for then, but I can't even find where to buy custom 3D printed minis. I'm GMing a Star Wars campaign, so nothing D&D-like works for me.
👍🏻
Talk about toxic fumes or is it an unwanted topic?
No one in the resin printing community wants to talk about the safety hazards.
Happy to talk about it. A lot of the time I feel like it’s over stated by people online, compared to what the SDS says. However I am a polymer chemist with around 15 years industrial experience and patents in a variety of polymer chemistries which are all a heck of a lot more hazardous than 3D printing resins.
This does however assume that the SDS’s for the resins are accurate, many of them claim that the vapour pressure of the resin is so low that the hazards of the fumes don’t need to be taken into account, however that doesn’t stop them setting off my wife’s allergies.
Working out the correct hazard labels for polymers isn’t always the easiest thing either, and as the resin’s formulae aren’t published (for obvious reasons) it’s hard to work out what potential hazards not listed on the SDS might be.
Personally, other than gloves, I use the printer in a semi sealed box with an extraction fan over the top of it, and when I do the solvent wash and clean up, I do it in one of the desk top airbrush spray booths. The vent hoses for the printer extraction and the spray booth both lead outside.
@@owenmorris9306 that's probably the perfect way to do it.
Not enough cheesecake. The sculpts are amazing. Just, not enough cheesecake.
Thanks!!!👍🏻
which software is best for 3d printer
We use Chitubox :)
can you print Miniatures with an fdm 3d printer to?
FDM printing is best applied to scatter terrain or larger terrain pieces, but there are also vendors such as Fat Dragon Games that offer stl files optimized for FDM printing. That said, they simply can't compete with the level of detail that can be achieved with resin printing. But it is possible in many cases, yes. The models just have to be designed in a way that allows for thicker parts.
Pourriez-vous traduire la vidéo en français car je ne parle pas un mot d'anglais merci d'avance
Philpe"s hair though
I'll soon have 4 resin printers. You don't need to convince me. :-D
Got any recommendations? In the market for my first one. Looking at the Phrozon Mini 4k since I'm painting at a small scale for D&D but the tape clearance issue seems problematic enough to dissuade me
From which country is loot studios?
Parecem brasileiros, mas posso estar errado
Sao brasileiros sim
@@brunomelo3312 vlw
And here I thought the talk would be having a home print setup vs buying from the multitude of resellers that print the minis for you...
Please work on your sound and the music level.
32mm? Nah, 28mm is the standard
Yoo
Braziu
Felipe Neto
brasileiros ? hahaha foda!
I would like to print my own figures one day but Def lack the space,ventilation,money to do so x3
No need to hard pan your 2 voices.
Fffffff
Do you really need a justification to learn a skill or just trying a new hobby? :)
Sometimes, yes.
If someone is just getting into D&D/TTRPGs and want their own mini, they don't need to spend ~$300 on a printer and supplies.
However, for someone just getting into, say, Warhammer, I think the cost is totally justified - $300+ for an army is outrageous.
@@xCr00k3Dx Aknowledged! Though what i meant was, when considering 3d printing as a standalone hobby/interest/passion, one doesn't really need to justify starting it depending on what sort of prints are going to be done and the cost comparison with ready made ones. Hopefully it makes sense :)
Wtf is up with the Scottish music
FFFFFF
Fake man 👨