MX-5 Miatas Compared - Which is best? - TV Season 1 Ep. 2 | Everyday Driver
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- Опубликовано: 24 фев 2016
- The MX-5 Miata has been around for four generations. With the introduction of the ND MX-5/Miata, we gathered all four generations for a back to back drive. Along the way we discuss the history, changes, and most-enjoyable versions of this icon. In the end we find some surprises, and discover we still don't agree about this car.
This was the ND.1, before the RF or the updated engine.
Watch our review of the ND2 RF here:
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I have a 1995 Miata. Friends sometimes make fun of me, BUT.......1) It's fully paid, 2) very cheap to maintain, 3) cheap on gas especially since I only drive it to work and don't need the unnecessary space, 4) cheap on insurance, 5) easy to park and drive around the city, and 6) it's a convertible during summer.
I stopped caring what everybody else think.
@Private Notitia oh no the rice is self aware. 😂 in all seriousnrss, do whatevet you think looks good. I personally would love an NA, with a forced induction system, cold air intake, new suspension, smaller wheels, and a new front bumper. All said and done i could get a used one with all those mods for under 12000 and i might just do that. If you like what you want to do, do it! Dont care what anyone thinks, its your car and you should love it.
You're more of a man than they are. You're last sentence sums up manhood well.
@Private Notitia you still gonna do it? Just curios
Bravo!!!!!
I want and sl500 from the 90s but its old as heck
"How often do you see all 4 of these cars together?"
Uhhh every autocross
thank you, its only been the most raced car worldwide for decades
History
Yeah, I see them almost every weekend during the summer, at least 3 of the 4
Every Sunday when you join a group
02:25 Mazda MX5 NA
10:05 Mazda MX5 NB
16:15 Mazda MX5 NC
23:55 Mazda MX5 ND
31:12 Some discussions and summary with all 4 MX5 models in the Background
Your welcome!
Thx man
glory hunter
I just bought a miata and I've gotten so many compliments on it, it's ridiculous.
which one?
I think a lot of people wants one but they never get daring enough to actually go and get it
WHICH ONE
@@Andrew_Kono a 2001 BRG SE (NB)
Welcome to the club
I always preferred the NC generation but really, no matter which one you get, they are all great. Just be happy they exist in a world of SUVs and trucks.
USA is not the world
@@MrSteelface96 suvs are everywhere not just usa
@@MrSteelface96 it’s an expression
@@MrSteelface96 it is the driving world.
But it's so ugly
Making the ND soft was actually a smart move for mazda because they know their customer base. Softer suspension is gonna be more comfortable for the people that are buying it for the sake of a cheap and fun roadster. And anyone buying a miata for performance is gonna end up putting coilovers on it regardless of what it comes with stock. Mazda knows this so they didnt waste putting stiff suspension on it. As long as the chassis is good, then im not complaining about suspension. That is my theory :)
Yes, so true. FM has a kit already
Also a lot of countries in Europe have narrow, uneven roads. A lot of reviewers over here have claimed that the Bilsteins that come with the 2.0 litre model are too stiff and hurt your back, and that the softer shocks that come with the 1.5 are better.
@@jonboyjon1976 Indeed and it's always very difficult to try to make a factory suspension softer. Aftermarket stuff is almost always stiffer so unless the car manufacturer takes into account bad roads which are the norm in many countries, then owners will never be able to make the car work on the roads they actually drive on.
These guys don’t understand Miata’s. Backloading fast is not the strength. It’s when you are delighted to make a quick run to the grocery store because you will return home with a smile on your face. Every trip is a delight. Try cruising with the top down on a warm night. You will feel completely one with the car. Don’t need to outrun the headlights.
My wife and I just bought a low mile 2001 NB a week ago. Great condition, great drive. My wife never drove a manual and she's been practicing every day because she wants to autocross after her first experience as a ride-a-long at a local event 2 weeks ago. This toy is all smiles all the time. The turn-in is so quick, and the brakes are great. I don't know why I've waited so long to buy one!
Im glad you and your wife enjoyed it. Do you still have it? Just curious.
@onurgultekin5037 it is with a certain level of sadness that we sold it last April after nearly 5 years of ownership. We drove it down to our Az home from NW Indiana, and there it sat for nearly 4 years. She didn't want to drive it in Az traffic because she felt unsafe in it. She said it was too slow, too small, and too unsafe for her in an area where people drove 85mph while staring at their phones. We put around 15 thousand miles on it in about 5 years. All it ever needed was basic fluid flushes, a new set of Continental ExtemeContacts, and an upgraded clutch. We did install LED headlamps and a Pioneer head unit and speakers. The car was sold with its original stereo, and Bose speakers to its next owner, a Miata aficionado. We didn't sell it to just anyone.
"You'll never be impress with the acceleration". Glances at the turbo kit beside my computer. *Evil smile*
Going to supercharge mine. Just raise that power band up overall and get a bit more low end torque to boot.
Mine has a BorgWarner ERF set-up on it with 350hp. Forged internals etc.
I feel the 1.8 has ok power
I like it the way it is! I have a 2020 RF and it’s quick enough
Will 250 be enough?
I picked up my ND a week ago and couldn't be happier! went with club trim + manual transmission and it's an absolute blast!
Dam that's what's up let's go for a cruise
hell yeah I got my 2015 Club edition a month ago and I love it! I wonder how different yours is to drive.
I just got a 2015 Club, too. Love the red and black combination. Have you ever had so many strangers smile and say "nice car!"? I haven't!
omg and so many random people staring or giving a "thumbs up"! its such a great looking car!
Yup, me too. I hate to tell people it was probably cheaper than their boring car. :-) And manual is the only way to go. Modern automatic transmissions shift faster than you can manually - you'll never see a manual Tesla - but most of us don't drive a Miata for speed. I drive a Miata because it's fun, and because it connects me to driving like nothing I've driven other than a motorcycle.
Just bought a 2016 ND1, and I love it. The club edition feels much more connected to the road and makes driving such a fun experience. Get so many compliments from other guys it’s actually so funny. More guys should buy this car, it’s a great and affordable sports car.
New or used?
Love this video! Thanks for the knowledge of the different types. My husband finally bought me my dream car, 4th generation as a surprise!! I drive him around, we have fun days just driving and relaxing. We turn heads and bring smiles wherever we go. I love my Miata.
You have a stick in the middle of the seats, is for select the gears, just saying (5:25)
también te has dado cuenta... ja ja ja... Vicesat, congrats for your videos. You rock!
He's at like 6.5 k if you look at the tach
Were.you in 1st already ? Can't down shift?
The 17 inch rims and tyres have much more diameter than the original 14s. That increases the gear end ratio, dramatically afecting acceleration and recuperation times, not to talk about handling, the car sits higher than it should. I think those rims and tyres rather miss the point in an mx5.
HAHAAHAH they were driving it like an auto
I'm 2 days away from purchasing an NA and I am very excited
How is it man? I realllllyyyyy want one haha would love your thoughts
How is it
How is it
Job Done Right lol I bet you don't have a car
Job Done Right show proof
I've owned an nc for about 6 months. It's awesome even though the steering is a little light and it jumps around too much over mid corner bumps. The engine isn't as smooth as the original. But it's got 4 airbags and a roll over bar. Mine just needs the flying miata full suspension kit. Don't over think this. If you like driving, buy one. One life.
Yup. NC PRHT 6 months. Want to just keep driving. There is a twisty edge of the cliff road by me that is FUN!!!!
"The engine isn't as smooth as the original"
I think there's something wrong with your engine because I've owned both the NA and NC, the NC definitely feels smoother.
9 months and 20,000 miles it definitely hops a bit on certain roads I'll go up and down slightly it's kinda amusing
Also my engine is quite smooth but I haven't driven the og miata
I drive a 2015 nc in my smallish Texas town outside of fort Worth there are a lot of retired individuals near me in na/nbs. I always feel like big bro with my extra lil hp 😂
I bought a full track built Supercharged 2004 NB with 235 hp and 198tq and I love it! I get complements whenever I take it out. Great looking car!
That NA needs another set of 14inch rims... those 17s look ridiculous
+Max Goldberg, BSME I have direzza z2 star specs on my 84 with the tiny stock wheels
+NoRealPotential 15x7 with 195s would be very nice.
the rims may be fine if the car was lower
195/60/14 Falken Azenis, If dry traction is your definition of a good tire.
NoRealPotential
I've got 205 50 15s on mine and they're perfect... I may go up to 215s but these are just great in these West Virginia hills....
A girls car? lmao the only people that think that are those who no nothing about cars.
Low Elo God I was just thinking the same thing man
If you dont know the common perception of 5he Miata then you dont (no) cars lol.
Miatas are fun, balanced, have great handling, and are great cars. So are minis and Fiat 500s. They’re all girly cars
1985cactus You mean my vagina?
@@grandtorino7709 bruh
When my dad passed away from a work accident his Miata was really all I got to remember him by. I paid my siblings 2g each and it was worth every Penny and 3x more. It’s in amazing condition and I absolutely love this car more than anything in the world. It’s the only thing I outright own without anyone else having any say over it. Only my name on the title, which is very satisfying. It’s also the most fun I’ve had in any of my cars and the first non hatchback I’ve owned. I loved my MkIII and my Sonic turbo, but this is just a different kind of car love. Both sentimental love, of the highest order, and mechanical love for all the smiles it’s brought to me. I can’t say enough good things about it. P.s. I’m 6’4” and while I kinda have to splay my legs around the steering wheel it isn’t bad at all. I’ve ridden in much bigger with much less space to work with so 🤷🏻♂️ if you want to fit there are a million ways to make it happen
I own a 21 year old NB in fantastic condition, It's listed in my will to be passed to my 10 year old son for the exact reasons you mentioned.
Your comments touched me. Continue to enjoy your Miata, with every smile on every corner, and the memories it brings of your father.
@@jongough3224 mine will be with me forever, I hope you’re around for many years to enjoy the car with your boy, and when the time comes I know he’ll care for it as much as I care for mine. It’s a way to be close to my father in a way I can’t put to words. I just can’t help but feel his presence at times in the car
I really appreciate all the work you guys do in these types of videos. Thank you.
The ND Club version I feel resolves all of the issues yall had. Speaking from experience, the Bilsteins and other touches really make it sparkle!
YES! sorry I'm late to the party 🤣 but 😍😍😍
Yes and with progress springs, just about perfect without going to coilovers…
I wish club was available in Turkey. even so the ND2 I have I still love.
You whined and whined about the lack of power... I did not hear you downshift, or rev it. You need to be up in the 4500 rpm range, or the car is dead.
Trust me, they want to be rev'ed.
john gordos That is correct. Most Japanese cars love high revs. I got an s2000 cheap from a woman who thought her old z3 was faster. She didnt understand that it likes 5-9k rpm
@@juandef4115 lucky are u in california ?
Oh yeah...run it at 4K plus
Very true.
ya its a race car !
Just bought an NC. Never thought much of these cars, until I took it on a test drive of just 5 kilometers.
I was sold immediately.
Felt a bit live driving a go-cart. Pure joy!
So thankful I found your channel. I know this video is from a couple of years ago. But I enjoyed it so much. You guys are down to earth and very knowledgeable. And thanks for not using a lot of profanity like some guys on their car channels do. I have a 87 RX7 that A friend gave me. Unfortunately I had to let set for years. It was running great when I parked it. I will have to do a lot of work you did rolling. But this car Channel gives me motivation. Thanks again.
I can't wrap my head around how beautiful these landscapes are. Damn.
Colorado?
I see you have never been to Northern England / Scotland. Come over some time :)
Best part of the video the landscape
California just east of San Luis Obispo and Goleta- home of Moss Motors.
Cool review and all but why are you guys using 5th gear to pass a truck? I've been driving miata's for years and they accelerate a lot faster than that. Plus as Zhemin said the shifter location and the RPM clearly indicates the car is in 5th and NOT 3rd, you can't fool miata owners, we actually push our cars. Kind of dissapointed that your reviewers don't know how to drive miatas.
MIke Kramer I agree. If you just downshift, it's got plenty of torque.
Buddy just wants to put his foot down and not have to work for it.
MIke Kramer same, and im a 15 year old so i havnt had a lot of experience with a lit of cars.
That's why there's a gearshift. I never had trouble with passing in my NA.
Yep, this guy drives automatics. Dude, there's no automatic kickdown in a stick shift.
for the ND it sounds prefect to me with the softer suspension as a daily driver pot holes, traffic, tight parking etc. thats the one i want one day
Great honest review. We have all four generations of MX5. With the ND to get the most out of it you just need a small mind reset. think of it as a motorbike in the way it moves and you suddenly understand and can push so much harder.
rims are too big for the first gen
i was just going to say that but gladly checked to see if anyone else mentioned it. Not only too big, the modern style just doesnt fit it.
you're right, not only are they hideous, but hinder the performance.
Nah, they're not big enough. Every car should have giant metal wheels with no tires at all.
hahhahah
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder (although I agree--too big) but there's no opinion when facts are involved. Such a low mileage NA, why not keep the original wheels? They would have experienced a more nimble feel and quicker launch with proper wheels.
My dad and I own one now for 3 months and it's the best thing we have ever drove. I'm 16 and I can't wait until I can get my drivers licence so I can drive it legal ;)
DVP2000 A B C OR D?
It's a manual trans, right?
Lol “legal”
Your 19 now how's it going?
@@epoxeclipse Great! I've bought myself an NB-FL today and the NA is still going strong💪
I love my '07 NC and I'm so glad they agree. I know I would be happy with any Miata, including my brother's 1990 NA, but the NC just has the right combination of size, power, reliability and fun for me. So glad I bought it!
I had and enjoyed an NC, but honestly, I never ever got used to it's looks.
@@newmanfertig886 same
I always thought NC has the best look compares with other gens lol
I think nc1 is the best looking.
I’m in the same boat. I’d love to have any Miata, but the NC seems to be the best one for me.
I feel like the Miata being sold as a “teacher for driving” is why it always is under powered. Because if it was a little more aggressive you couldn’t correct your mistakes and learn finesse. But honestly they should make 2 different versions one for aggression and another for the purists.
couldn’t agree more. Im so glad I learned the concepts of driving manual in a miata. I seriously doubt I would still want a manual if I didn’t learn in a car that good.
@@coopereaton5263 Honda 5sp was insane
I'm happy with the power, what I wish they'd make is a raw "outdoors" or rally version that you could leave the top down on even in the pouring rain. Waterproof interior with drain holes in the floorboard and seats with slots in them where they wouldn't puddle up. There have been plenty of times the wife and I have been riding around here in the boiling hot southeast and the rain kicked up but we still wanted to keep the top down. Another thing I'd like to see (I own a NC power retractable top) is just a lighter made retractable (not removable) hardtop that a couple could operate manually.
This is, by far, the most underrated car channel on RUclips. You're doing a great job guys!
I paused at 1:13 right before the actual review starts, just to say that was one of the most well-executed and honest intros I've ever seen! Keep up the great work!!
+Hamza I - Thank you! We realized we needed to get the word out on all the kinds of content we make, as many people aren't aware of what we do outside RUclips. We'll be putting this intro on most of our big pieces this year to broaden awareness. We're very pleased to know it played well for you... Thanks for saying something!
Humza I Very True.....great intro
We have an NB, dark green with tan interior and wooden steering wheel, drives like a kart. Greetings from Belgium.
Sounds sweet
I own a 2010 NC Grand Touring. Very satisfied but intrigued by the 2019 Miata with more power. Hearing you both prefer the NC makes me happy I have one. The NC has a little more room and carrying capacity vs. the ND which is a good thing. Maybe I will just stick with my NC.
They said the NB was a 99' at 10:24, but looking at the front bumper and centre console it is a 01'-05'
I have a 99 and they look way different
yes, they is wrong and they is dopey. 99's are COOL and RULE!
yup and white guages...not a 99 or 00
Looks like my 2002
I thought maybe a previous owner had swapped in white face gauges and a newer steering wheel, but it probably is just a later NB.
I would have changed down to pass the truck on the uphill, surely this is the point of having a low HP stick shift car and its also a part of the driver involvement?
As a NC owner i would say that the chassis is just too good and well balanced that makes feel you feel safer and push the limits harder... It did Nurburgring under 8 min with stock engine. No turbos or superchargued were needed... NA and NB are maybe more fun because they are a bit smaller and all is less filtered but performance wise NC is the best of them and still fun to drive.
Those that complaing the NC its clear that they have never driven one :)
Porsche Cayenne S turbo ran 7:59.
Dodge Viper RT10 ran 7:59.
Nissan Skyline R33 V Spec ran 7:59.
Porsche 996 Carrera S ran 7:59.
Cadillac CTS V ran 7:59.
Chevrolet Corvette Z51 (C6) ran 7:59.
NC Miata did NOT run 7:59. Not a chance.
There is no way a stock NC ran the Ring anywhere close to 8 minutes
@@ChrisBrown-pz2gu 7.37 btg
@@Theyefull no way it was as it left the factory
@@lvbuckeye a mildly tuned one did run 7:58 ruclips.net/video/tQ3x462rlmg/видео.html
That was a great review, I loved the way you produced it.
Actually the 1.5l version ND is perfectly fine for the european market. Here, it costs way more to mantain a car, in taxes, insurance etc. Also, gas costs 2.5 times more. The 1.5l also gets softer suspention here (the 2.0 has stiff springs), which is more comfortable for road use. And on average, on the road, it's a pretty fast car.
The wagon wheels on that first gen need to go, they look so goofy at that size.
I totally agree. A Na should never have anything bigger than 15s
+mojostevo Took the words right out of my mouth. Looks ridiculous and I bet the increased unsprung weight and lack of tyre negatively affects the ride.
+Brad Crandall This. So totally this. Same for early NBs.
+mojostevo Yep, so big it looks like it has a lift kit.
+mojostevo EXACTLY!!!! I cringed when I saw those wheels, and I cringed when he said its a 90 riding on its original suspension components. Fact is, the NA is a car 100% about handing, and unsprung weight is absolutely critical to its handling and feel. Also, its well known that the original shocks usually are DONE by 50,000 miles. If these guys drove that car, then jumped in my 95 NA with proper lightweight 15" wheels, Flyin' Miata springs and Tokico Illumina shocks (everything else stock), their jaw would drop. If they think that NA was fun and communicative, they have no idea what a properly maintained NA can feel like.
One of them also said they thought that high-speed sweepers was where the NA shines. Uh ... maybe that one, but again,a properly sorted NA BEGS to be hammered on the tightest twisties you can find ... zing it to redline, upshift zing again, then HARD on the brakes, heal-toe downshift, left, right, left, 4 wheel drifts, back up thru the gears, mile after mile ... all day long ... my car smiles and thanks me and says "more please" when I drive it like that ...can you tell I LOVE my NA?
Normal people: What a great video!
Me: Why. Does. The. 1st-Gen. Have. So. Big. *Rims.*
literally monster truck
A slightly lowered 15 inch wheel na will handle a lot better than an nc. The only reason they made it out backwards is because of the monster truck na they used.
@@gamesta8884 and also the OEM suspension, which has probably mashed it's bump stops to smithereens and worn out it's shocks / bushings decades ago.
Anyone buying an NA now days should factor in suspension. Doesn't matter if it's ohlins, koni or OEM refresh, it makes a world of difference.
I remember when they came out. Mazda wanted to emulate the Lotus Elan, which it looks identical to. The Elan was noted for it's lack of reliability however and Mazda thought they could do better, and they did.
This is by far the most informative and practical comparison of the four generations of the Miata I have seen anywhere. Thank you for the great comparison!
Outstanding work. The back-to-back comparison structure really seems to sharpen observations--far better than the vague memories that other journalists often seem to rely on when making observations about how the car has changed. These multi-generation comparisons are what you guys do best, and they are among the best car reviews I've seen.
+Isaac MacDonald - Thank you immensely. We love doing these, as getting into each car right away is a rare opportunity and makes even small changes very clear. We're glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching and commenting!
The NB had a facelift, that came with the raise of the seats. So as a tall guy (6'3") my favourite one is that model, as still as nimble as the NA, but stronger. Thank you for the video, helped me a lot with a decision, and won't go for the ND. Great show guys!
This is the film I have always wanted to see. Thank you so much for making it!
As a 5'5" guy, the MX-5 is a perfect fit for me, regardless of the generations. :D
I'm 6'3/205 pounds and fit comfortably in an NA Miata, just need a slightly smaller steering wheel and aftermarket bucket/racing for my knees to fit better. After that's sorted the car is golden for me.
+ThePresD not really, as I said I fit and I'm 6'3 lol
Manlet
Richard Potts What buckets do you recommend
you fucken manlet
Hey guys, I love your videos. I watch motor trend, car&driver, autoweek, Tfl, driven, and many more car review channels. out of all of those, I really found your show to be unique because you guys don't just test highend exotic cars. you guys review regular cars too and assess them through the eyes of a car enthusiast. I, being a car enthusiast that doesn't have enough money yet to buy a sports car, really enjoy and appreciate your reviews. your videos influenced me greatly when I finally went out and bought a car. you guys tested the mk3 focus, previous generation Mazda 3, and Subaru impreza hatch. out of that I finally bought my 2014 focus se and couldn't be happier with my buy. thank you guys!
+bigwillchill - We're very pleased to know you watch so many great automotive outlets and find the uniqueness in our approach. And knowing we were helpful in your current car purchase is one of our favorite things! You may enjoy our Podcast as well, since it focuses on finding great cars for our audience. Thank you for watching and commenting!
I wish the NB was red as well! Great review as always. All of these have gone up in value unfortunately. It would be nice if you can include typical maintenance costs on each gen.
I enjoyed the love that you guys gave one of my favorite cars. I do think y'all nailed exactly what this car is all about for the most part. I do disagree with your assertion that it is not the car to be fastest on a mountain road. My 96 in SCCA e street trim. Which was for me cheap KYB shocks, a front away bar, and 15x6 wheels with dunlop direzza zIIs was always the fastest on all the mountain roads around here. I totally know that all of the more expensive cars that let me by had more potential the miata is just so easy to drive and never touch the brakes. On a mountain road that translates to a very quick pace.
having done shotokan karate with a Japanese gentleman (the instructor) I learned a little about their culture. appropriately today is Jan.1, the Japanese believe in doing the thing you are most passionate about first (in your waking moments) on the first day of the new year. this will translate into doing that thing you love most, more :) kinda smart when you think about that. so at 4 or 5 in the morning we would meet at the Dojo, organize and head to either Miami Beach or Crandon Park beach (on the bay side) and do a sunrise karate class. what does karate have to do with miatas? IT IS NOT ABOUT EITHER. it is about Passion, Feeling, peeling away all the extra stuff that will mask the essence of the true flavor of what ever it is you are doing! in the case of the Miata it is driving "the drive" simple pure and satisfying, a roadster. i never believed or understood till I got a miata mine is a NB and if you ever have done any thing where it all comes together even for a split second like getting all of a fastball on the sweet part of a bat and hitting a home run. preforming a kata (Kanku dai) the single kata that defines Shotokan karate, as well as you can with passion and fire in your heart, when it is over you arrive at a moment of peace, satisfaction and comfort that is hard to put into words. my miata NB with its essence of the NA on a good windy country road with beautiful nature feels the same way while I am driving it and the same way when i am done. Look into the the Japanese culture: garden, flower arrangement, food, karate, art, and you will see how an extremely smart and complex people see the world and strive to live richly (i am not talking money here) that is reflected in the spirit of the miata, which is why people around the world love the little thing so much.
To put it in terms of western thought the Porsche 911 has a lot of Hegel and some Nietzsche, the Miata has a lot of Nietzsche and some Hegel.
hcwbw3 Well put... WWJD? A Miata ;)
Domo arigato Mr Roboto
Genital?
hcwbw3 Japanese genital man lmao
My first roadster was a 1960 Triumph TR-3, purchased back in the late 1960s when the car was already nearly worn out and had to be extensively repaired, including rebuilding the engine. When gasoline costs soared in the late 1970s I bought an MG Midget, which I drove for about five years. I acquired my first Mazda in 1987, an RX-7. This car was not a convertible; so, in 1994 I bought a Miata, which I held onto until 2014. Living in the Northeast part of the U.S. the one great problem was body rust, even though the vehicle was garaged daily. My new 2014 Miata is a wonderful car, with a retractible hard top. I am hoping to keep it until I am hauled away to a rest home and my driver's license is taken away from me.
Awesome story Ed
Thanks. Every now and then I think of finding a restored Triumph or MG, but realize I am too old and tired to deal with a car that requires TLC to keep on the road.
+Edward Dodson Its a shame the British car industry went the way it did. I think in 20 years time Triumphs, English MGs and Austins will only exist in wealthy collectors collections. I think it's hard for my generation (post-90's) to get into the classic roadsters with the high costs, bad build quality and general unreliability of British cars, it's just sad. There are so many beautiful British cars (even up to early 2000's) that will die out due to the scary costs. Think Clarkson said it best but why buy British and take the costs/risks/unreliability of a British built car when the Japanese will produce a vastly superior car with similar looks at often half or a third of the long term cost?
It's a real shame. Survival of the fittest and all that but it's a damn shame to see British styling touches imitated but I guess so long as Zagato exists I can rest happily 😁
My `1994 Miata rusted out, just like the old British cars, and it had other design problems. The 2014 version is so much better in so many ways. Perhaps the best way to enjoy the old British roadsters is to buy a replica version.
I'm currently restoring a tr4, there's bloody holes appearing everywhere as the previous owner tried covering them up with fibreglass inducing more rust.
Oh, yes, I am the proud owner of a 2017 Miata RF Grand Touring! I have owned four NA's as well. First time watching your videos, certainly impressed that you are featuring cars that have a ding or two here and there, and with mileage. THIS brings it to a common user level for the masses. Awesome move. Miata did (and does) it right. It is the world's most underrated sports car, and frankly, let's keep it that way for the pricing. -TSM
Na or nc ?
I came from driving mini coopers. I test drove all the miatas and settled on the NC. I can’t figure out the angst here. Miatas are great. Why be angry with someone that chooses to own one just because your favorite may differ. I will say my last copper was much faster than all of the miatas. But the Miata just has something magical about it. Enjoy what you drive.
NC has safety, and the toxic side of the miata community will shit on you for even thinking about having traction control etc.
The first gen has 17s on it. Really? Haha . Try test driving it without the heavy ass wheels.
Greg Wilczynski exactly on a n/a 15’s are the biggest anyone should go, that weigh 14 lbs or less. Those 24 lb 17’s kill the handling
Looks absolutely fucking idiotic...who would do that; hooptie.
I love my NC but they get a lot of criticism. I'm so glad it came out top in your review 😀
+Rob “Robster” Smith
I drive and NA, but if I couldnt have one, I'd want the NC
Came out on top? Don't think so. It fit the drivers better is all.
Cheyenne Palisades the smaller guy still put it first and he didn't complain about fit
im 5 ft 4 i fit anywhere no complaints ever in my life lol
i also fit boys clothes so that's a money saver rite there
I am a first time viewer of your videos and really appreciated the time you took to review all 4 generations at the same time which I have never seen before in all my years of reviewing car and truck videos hats off keep up the great work you won me over as a new subscriber great job!
Glad you found us and like what we do. Comparisons are the thing we’ve always preferred and still do them regularly for our TV show. If you like generational comparisons we’ve also done 3 feature films allowing us to drive every generation of the 911, the M3, and the Corvette. Thanks for watching and subscribing!
I'm shocked by the quality of this video, this is amazing! Thank you for a wonderful review:)
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!
my favorite is the nb
Chris Cole the nb is cool, not sure why people consider it the ugly one. I think the Nc is the heaviest and ugliest in my opinion
Best looking good wt power ratio
Me too love mine.
That is the one I have it is fun. But the NA has the better aftermarket body styling options.
Nb Mazdaspeed is amazing honestly
This is probably the best everyday driver vid based on production value, which is no small feat. Well done guys.
Great video. Super informative, with knowledgeable presenters. A must watch for anyone thinking of buying an MX5.
12:03 that was the happiest shift I've ever seen! haha great video guys!
All the hate for the NC, yet these guys thought it was the best
Chad Stuetzel ‘it’s the best car but not the best miata’ we are interested in the miata not just cars ...
There’s a reason middle age women drive the NC over the NA or NB
@@Racing_Fox413 I'm from Connecticut.
I've never seen a female drive an NC.
Actually, I've never seen a female drive a Miata.
China Teves must the the UK then ... they’re quite popular the NC
@@Racing_Fox413 here in the States, women drive the newer Beetles, PT Cruisers, full size S.U.V.'s, 2-Door Wranglers and a while back, Mitsubishi Eclipse's.
Nissan Altima is also growing im popularity with the female population here.
For me the NC is the prettiest and most practical, I'm 6ft 3 "
This NB is not a 99 unless the owner did an 01 facelift
+yossi126 definitely not a '99. 99-00 had black gauge faces and 01-05 had white, door cards are 01-05, and seats are 01-05 as well. definitely an NB2.
+IVI0NSTERxx8 don't forget front bumper, side skirt and white taillight not the one with yellow bits.
They got no idea what they talking about NB8B does not feel anything like the NA, NB8A feels exactly like the NA but less raw.
+Zhemin Lin They picked NC as best miata, so surely they have no idea what they're talking about.
+Dean H This one is definitely an NB2. body panels are sharper and the door panels, console, and some other things give it away. i too have a '99.
+IVI0NSTERxx8 Center console ash tray and white tail light is dead give away ;'D
I cant compare the versions. But I have a NC, and never regreted it. I have to agree, its really smooth when you drive the corners, even if you drive them fast! Love it!
I drove an NA and then the NC afterwards today, I had 0 complains about the power delivery on the NC. I actually thought it was damn quick and far more more torqy than the NA.
Awesome film you guys, the only Miata I've driven was a fully-stripped out and caged NA. I'm looking forward to getting behind the wheel of the new one. Keep up the great work!
do a stock nb miata PLEASE!!! i recently got one and there aren't many reviews of a stock NB tbh
its so amazing to see one of my favorite channels taking interest in miatas LOL i love your videos and your MR2 !!!!!!!1111!
sure sounds like the ND would be perfect for these guys with just stiffer springs and shocks, which is a pretty damn cheap and easy upgrade honestly. That's a good thing
Great reviews thanks so much, Driving a Mark 2 MX5 this week as been lent it by my service garage for a bit of fun, I have an A7 2016 Diesel and A6 C7 3.0D Avant retuned, so used of big cars but this little car makes me feel like i am drive back in the 50`s. every-time I drive it I fall more in love with it, makes me email so so much
I bought my first MX-5 two months ago, a. 2010 Mk III (NC)then of course watched this video afterwards. I am extremely pleased with my experience with my purchase, and also that I watched the video After!
It a great “documentary”, showing your experiences and expectations.
If I had watched it prior to my decision, this would have ensured that I never would have made my mind up.
As for fun-buy one while you can.
Watch the video first, then make a “decision” to buy the one you think would suit your lifestyle you expect also your body size. The MX-5 is NOT feasible for the “larger”(you know who I am referring to) person. Or if you want anonymity, people will wave and smile at you, they will approach you in a car park.
Nice to see a not so positive review on the ND. People are often too happy about the new generation that they perhaps overlook the shortcomings. Thanks for pointing some of the negatives out.
+zed4me everyone complained about the same issues. Go be negative and hateful somewhere else.
Themayseffect don't get your point. i almost bought the ND, not hating at all
Ryukachoo
The 124 body kit is ugly as dog shit. I'd rather just buy a 1.7t engine and put it in the mx-5.
It seemed like a lot of reviewers got the Club spec. Not unusual for press cars to the most optioned out.
Michael Cohen
even still the base ND is still a great car. For it to only have one issue (which is completely fixable(for cheap)) i don't see why anyone would avoid it. I much rather get one than a BRFS.
Just bought my first mx5 1999nb! Stoked
lachypitt how's it's going ?
Drive it with the top down and Bongee cord a Blow up doll in the passenger seat .
Dude you will have so much fun .
Awesome content on the generation of Miata. Love the breakdown of each car and refinements through the years! Third gen would be my first pick followed closely by the NA.
Great well balanced ride through the history. Thanks! My wife wrote her Lexus off last week and I'll be getting her a hardtop NC over the weekend to lift her spirits.
im a junior in highschool, working part time and saving for a NB as my first car
EDIT: I ended up getting a 9th gen Si :))
I’m a junior and I got a nc and my friend got a nb we feel like kings pulling up
Did you get one?
Edit: I got one :)
Nc PRHT Touring Copper red :)
Im 22 just got my first car, 2001 nb2.. bought it myself, had my license since 16
@@AverageAnthony I just got a 2001 NB too at 20 y/o! Hope you're enjoying yours !
How did that go?
I actually like the soft suspension.
It wasn't supposed to be a fast car its not a porche and the 1.5 liter engine does the job just fine you don't even need the bigger engine. I like it how they kept it a Miata and just didn't go crazy with the amount of horse power.
Great car ! nice review !
The NC is my favorite miata. It feels good and the weight is hardly noticeable. It's also a lot quicker than the others. The chassis feels less flimsy. I also think it looks the best in certain trims. I've yet to drive the ND though.
Some people call the NB the ugly duckling of the Miata family. Personally I just can't see it, I think the NC is the ugly ducking.
Couldn't agree more.
I agree with you 100%
ElectricRides I actually bought my 05 NB because of its look
To me is the best looking of the first three gens for sure
NBFL, my love
Ok we get it. It's slow. I think you need to focus on what it does good. Instead of continuously saying it's slow. Talk about suspension revisions and improvements. I personally think MX5's are more important that 911's but watching you guys review these cars is like watching a 3 year old complain about eating vegetables.
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Agreed. They don't "get it", the Miata especially the first two gens are exactly what traditional sports cars are meant to be and what Mazda aimed for. I'm sick of the 40 y/o and below expecting it to be everything to everyone in a car that isn't designed to be that at all. Tall guy....this car isn't meant for you.
It's like they are reviewing a Lamborghini and expect the power ...
Luck Ding Wong
Exactly! These guys aren't really good enough to understand how to review according to what the product is aiming to achieve. A "traditional" sports car doesn't have large amounts of power, they NEVER did. It is always about good balance, especially the handling and entertainment value of using what the car has to its fullest potential.
I've had 2 NA's, one NB, and 3 NC's. All fantastic cars. My preference is the NC.
None are powerful but all are fun. The NC is the easiest to use as a daily driver. The NA is basic in a way that it's most fun as an occasional use machine, the NB same. I like a bit of comfort, I'm not driving the snot out of my car so I like a bit of umph along with great handling. After a long drive in extreme summer heat I found a/c was a feature I didn't want to live without.The NC gt is my pick.
bought a 2017 nd1 in 2019 and it's the most fun car I've ever owned and I'm 76 and had many sport cars over the years including a Nissan 280z, Yenko Stinger (Vega), and first yr Honda CRX. I've also put a lot of miles on my brother's S2000 and later his 2015 GT-R. I can say that the GT-R was by far the fastest car I've ever driven, but it also costs considerably more than my Miata.
This is my 1st time seeing your video and it's simply fantastic! About to click the subscribe button...
Great video. Love your passionate reviews. I can totally tell you're just *dying* to drop an S2000 reference in there somewhere. :D
As a person who drives an NC about 4000 miles a month, I concur with your analysis. Great video.
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@@revolution7139 Thanks Munzir! Very cool!
@@leleedler This is hilarious..... That's my infant son messing around with my cell phone when I am asleep after night shifts
@@revolution7139 I assumed such... He appears to be watching the right videos! Wonder if he is a fan of the Miata?
@@leleedler I own a Miata NC ....I wonder how he reached this video
I own an NB special edition (6 sp, etc.), the only Miata I've ever driven. I used to autocross a fairly modified bug eye sprite in the 70's. My Miata would have beaten it pretty easily, casually, and comfortably. Really enjoyed your video!!
One of the more informative videos with excellent c&c on different generations while I shop for a roadster to scratch my drivers itch. Thanks for that guys. However, it kind of leaves me wondering how a c&c might be between the top factory iteration of each gen would stack up, especially with the 2019 models providing some more juice under the hood, but then, this is the first of your videos of I've seen...so far. Also, would like to see the Fiat version thrown in for good measure. Having once owned a '79 2000 Spider, I sorely long to reproduce the fun I had cutting countryside curves in Ol' "Boris," sans the mechanical issues of course. Soon I hope to return again.
Nevertheless, thanks again for the video.
Just bought my 2006 with factory bilstien suspension and the super LSD and I love it!
5:26 You are not even pushing the throttle. Look at the rpm!
Been driving *your* miata at 8000 feet much? :)
@@j.r.b.5464 imgur.com/kRq9jz8 ye dont know what the guy is on about, this looks like 4k rpm atleast
Great to see the reviews of each generation of Miata one after another. I have had an NA and now have an NB. Love both of them, but I'm under 6 foot, so no problem being too big. My son is 6 foot 3 and feels all of the cars are just too small for him. Found video provided me (generally not a "car guy") with a lot of insight about the cars - yes, yes, fun to drive and that is the point of them. Would have been interested in hearing more of practical aspects of the models, like feedback on each when driving with the roof up or your feedback when driving in different types of weather.
"A Girl's Car" yet the only ones I see driving one are older gentlemen.
I have literally never seen a female drive a Miata, Boxster, or Z3. I have no idea what jackass called them a hairdresser’s car but who ever coined the phrase should be whipped
@@Mr_Bones. I have seen a woman drive a boxster
Once
@@tuttosalve8352 Women drive Miatas, Boxters and MR2s here where I live...but so do men. /shrug.
Sadly not so much in Silicon Valley. Mainly middle-aged women. Not hating. I've owned an NB and am considering an ND as a commuter currently, but unlike when I owned the NB (a lightly modded 10AE with Borla exhaust and a CAI, plus lots of extra bracing) and did see many males my own age and older driving miatas, especially modded miatas, now all I see regularly are non-modded NDs with mature female drivers behind the wheel obeying all traffic laws and driving them for all the world as if they were Corollas. For those suggesting the hosts didn't drive them correctly I'm guessing you've never driven any miata at elevation. Taking my NB with a loaded trunk and passenger seat over a 9800 foot pass, the most I could do in first gear was 15mph when I approached the summit. They may have had their right foot planted to the floor and have been in an appropriately low gear if they're working at around 7k feet or higher.
Yep- and I'm one of them- who inherited my 95 NA from my Dad when he passed on.
As a modified NC owner I like this video!
Fantastic Video!
As an MR2 owner , i would like to see a video comparing all 3 generations of MR2 :)
Interesting idea... The MR2 generations are vastly different from each other however... The 1st Gen is a hotwheels car for the street, 2nd is an affordable exotic, and the 3rd is a mid engine Miata! These aren't very in-depth short analysises of the MR2 generations but, they get the idea across. They are pretty different.
After having spent the summer shopping for a convertible I could have fun driving, I just purchased a 2012 MX-5 Grand Touring with the Sport Pkg (Bilstein shocks and limited slip diff) and the Premium Pkg( HID headlights , Bluetooth, advanced keyless entry) It has 98K miles on it and the paint isn't perfect, but it is an absolute blast to drive! I thought a lot about a E46 BMW, but maintenance on an older BMW just seems like a nightmare. I drove a 1999 Mercedes SLK230 (engine sounds like it belongs in a forklift) a 2009 Mercedes CLK550 (felt slow under 40 MPH, so around town driving was boring) and a 1993 Z-28 Camaro (felt old and heavy). The MX-5 is a blast every time I take it out. It loves to rev and shifting thru the gears is a blast. When I got it it still had the original Mazda spark plugs. A new set of NGK plugs has made a big difference. It idles smoother and revs easier. I can't wait until next summer!
While I understand why you picked that NA, it's too bad you didn't pick a later version of the NA with the 1.8l engine. I think it may have ended up being y'all's favorite.
Having said that, I had a 1999 NB that I left in stock form, but autocrossed (SCCA class CS) and took on many open lapping days at local tracks, and I can attest to how great a learning car this is. You _must_ learn how to carry speed through - and out of - each corner, because there isn't 400hp on tap to pull you out. Running the correct line, hitting the apex, tracking out... this car is perfect for learning how to drive fast. I won a number of local autocross championships in that stock NB, and I could run a full season of AX and open lapping days with only one set of race tires and a set of break pads. About $1,200 all in for a long season of serious fun.
I sold that NB and bought a 2007 Porsche Cayman. That Cayman is like a Miata on steroids and it is amazing... but to run it like I did the Miata costs about 4 times as much!
I've got the first gen. Traded a boat for it on a whim. It is the most fun car that I've ever had and I've been through a bunch of powerful stuff. An early Miata is like driving a small displacement dirt bike. You just run it out all of the time and let the light weight make the fun happen. Shifting is as necessary as the throttle for driving the thing.
you guys get better and better every video. you guys are a discount Top Gear. thats a good thing lmao
+Frank Lopez - We consider that a huge compliment, thank you.
Always enjoy your "never forget where you come from" mentality. Great videos and content.
I just bought my first Miata a few weeks ago, and lucky for me happened to be a NC. I love my Miata!
Witch gen isvit
mat_t lean NC
I've had an NA, and currently have a silver 2008 NC (from new) with the Power hard top... I will never sell my NC. It is a super, modern, car that will age well, especially since it is the only one to have the power hard top... Every time I walk up to it or walk away from it, I still say... That's a cool car!!!
Webchez my dad just bought an exact color in 6 speed
That hard top is really nice in person
I like challengers but I was jealous when he got it