I don’t think it’s crazy for an employer to ask for help but it’s 100% our right to say no. He could have said no just cause and that’s still reasonable!
@@TandemSKITTLEZyou work what’s in your contract that both employer and employee signed. If you can say no, you can say no. If it states that the employer can change your hours and you can’t say no then you have to go in. New hire or not. Working is a business transaction. I offer my services you pay me in money.
I never once in my life accepted to work for free. I got pushed to work longer hours but was compensated when I was younger, now, I won't budge. Had a job that required me to show up at the security gate and then my boss would drive us down to the job site which took 15-30 minutes each way. He saw me marking my hours one day and was like, 'We don't pay for driving, that's on you." I just stared at him and was like, "Are you stupid?" Because I didn't want to get in a big fight as I was only 19 at the time I just mentally logged any time earned and spread it out over the weeks as our hours varied based on the tasks needing done, sometimes 10, sometimes 12, sometimes 16. It was based usually on the weather, if we could work we worked. So I just started rounding in my favor anytime to make up for lost hours he tried to take from me for being on the job site. So worked till 6:03, I put 6:15 until I made up my hours, he didn't check all the time so that's how I was able to get everything I worked for. If it had really become an issue I would have probably fought harder. I HATE doing free labor and even at 19 I wouldn't have done it, I just found the easiest solution back then. Your time is your time and is valued at your time = as someone else's time. They don't have MORE value over yours. So if Karen wants to take leave because her kid has soccer match and you had leave first and you were going to go home and watch netflix, don't get bullied into her time is more value because kids. It's yours, you worked for it, you earned it. Hate people who don't plan for events but try to bully you into doing something you don't want to.
Employer wants you in by 8, but the paycheck starts at 9. That’s the way the logic of these companies seem to operate on. Stick to the hours you’re scheduled, don’t give away any of your time for free.
He had notice for the meeting and he is the one outside the companies main timezone. 9 am where the company is based and where the majority of people are is 8am for him. He knew that. He's lying.
Agreed. I have one meeting each time we get a new build, we go over all the specs, and stuff, and then that is it. when you have a question, we jut ask whoever we need to. Meetings used to be important, but now we have technology that offers much better options, such as instant communication with anyone
I've never been to a meeting that they couldn't have just covered it all in a email and saved us all, a bunch of time. I've had jobs, for instance, that are closed on Sundays and they've wanted us to come in and have meetings. I've never done it a bunch of people kind of followed my lead on that and the company just stopped doing it all together. Don't work for them anymore. But when I left they were just writing messages on the boards and sending emails and texts, it worked better that Way and you didn't have any employees showing up on Monday. Resentful that their weekend had gotten cut short for a relevant BS that could have been covered like I said in other methods.
From what i understand, talking to older managers and business people. Most meetings are just time wasters to justify their positions. Most people finish their work hours before they get to go home. The film office space covered this fact years ago.
I grew up being taught that going above and beyond for your employer was the way to live. It didn't matter what you had to sacrifice, you weren't considered a "hard worker" or a "devoted employee" unless you gave the company everything you had. Today I can see this for the scam it was and I'm thrilled that the younger generation is standing up for themselves and making time for themselves instead of being blindly devoted to a job. Because in the end, your job dosen't give a shit about you and if they can squeeze every drop of life from you while giving you nothing in return, they will.
Go above and beyond only for the bosses who earned your respect. It’s totally disrespectful for any boss to ask you to come in early for a meeting just one day prior to the meeting. If they can’t respect your designated time off, then it’s fair that you disrespect their designated work time by giving them the bare minimum effort. And I’m saying this as a 41-yr-old. My own generation wasn’t raised to gladly put up with that BS.
the issues is companies used to offer retirement packages where if you worked for them for like 30 years you got money for the rest of your life, which was a huge benefit for staying in the company as long as possible, we dont have that anymore, and its exteremely hard to progress in a company these days, so your only option is stay with a company, build experience, and then leave and try to get that promotion from a different company for a higher pay, because there isnt any reason for me to stay
You do realize, that when you get employed by a employer they can change your hours for any reason including meetings. You unemployed aren't you 😂😂😂😂 if you arrive at 8am you get paid from until you get off . They have labor laws. If your salaried tough fucking luck. They can work you whenever they want.
I used to work in South Korea, the realm where overtime pay does not exist. If your hours are 9-5, or whatever time you’re scheduled, your employer will still make you come in early or stay late to make sure you get all your tasks completed. Also in Korean culture, it is considered rude to go home before the boss does. So we would have to stay late sometimes until they punched out.
Some employers really abuse work hours. I have a friend trying to get a job right now. He got one in sales and worked 3 whole days for them before they said that he wasn't cut out for the job. He didn't get paid a penny for any of the work.
I know my employer will schedule someone to close the store (Sometimes getting home at midnight-1am) then opening the store 6-8ish It’s insane what happens
@@thatbandmidget4377 Had an employee in the past that did the same, expected me to run a bar shift 'til closing and then breakfast the next day. Nah, ain't happening.
Employers and corps today expect you to drop your entire life whenever they need your work, like they're their slave, while paying pitiful amounts of money
I had a coworker who worked for the corporation for 27 years. She was a hard worker and extremely friendly. Because of budget cuts, they wanted her to leave by making her life miserable. Her life was so miserable that she finally snapped and they had a reason to fire her. Now she's working at Target making low wages, she use to make $145k a year and because she had no college degree due to her not needing it at the time she started working in the 70s , she had no strong credentials. Eventually they fired me too. This system is evil. Im done with money!
A hypothetical response from a unrelated person to a submitted post read. Successfully wasted everyone's time. A perfect depiction of usefulness of present day social media. Nice.
I wouldn't want to work with either of them. Soon as they said salary there wasn't a point anymore but both of them crying. And then he said skit. Whatever I'm glad I don't work near any of these kinds of people.
The corporate people at a certain coffee shop I used to work in expected all employees to be available and on call 24/7 without being in the contract to be available at all times since they're employees used to call off most of the time. They hire high school students and college kids at the highest rates. When I completed my hourly rate shift and there was a call off I had been asked to do a double shift and when I denied "you need to be a team player and be dedicated to the job". Up until April of 2023 I endured every little thing and I left for a company that respects days off and employee's mental/physical health. The old employer's Director of operations last words to me were "we will see you in three months since people don't last long where you are going", well it's going to be a year this April since I left and I have a more... important role in that company while getting paid more, traveling to other stores within their corporate market and most importantly earning a 401k since the other company I was working for never had my 401k set up when I first got a higher up position that included one back in 2018.
@@IMADINOSAURNOTABIRD If you want a more "human" method of communication, call the person, zoom meet them, or *GASP* talk to the person in question face to face. There's nothing "human" about a pre-scripted/edited video where what you say is carefully collated and choreographed in advance. No I'm not a boomer either, video recordings have their place, but it's not at all more "human" or sincere. Quite the opposite in fact. I do agree with you that texting is insufficient at times. At my old job, texts and emails were usually just a *reminders* for deadlines set prior, not randomly sent for *new* objectives.
Salaried employees don't have fixed hours. I was a salaried employee (engineer) my entire working life. It has advantages and disadvantages. Even though there is a typical start time you would be expected to be available when needed. But, since you don't punch a time clock, if you need to come in late or leave early occasionally, as long as you don't abuse it, you can and it doesn't affect your pay. You may or may not get overtime if you work extra hours and if you do then it's usually straight time rather than time and a half. But your salary is typically much higher and if there is a bonus program you're usually eligible for that which gives you an interest in the success of the company. In the long run typically most salaried employees make out much better than hourly employees. Just about all company executives and professionals are salaried.
When she was talking about salary, she meant that it isn't just "9-5". It is whatever is specified in the contract, I work salary, so I get the same amount of income every month regardless of the hours I work as long as I complete the duties outlined in the contract. Sometimes I might work a 50 hour week, sometimes I might work a 20 hour week, so it all evens out (though MAX hours are in the contract). I am allowed to make my own hours, but some people might have specified hours, like9-5, and if they have a quarterly 8 am meeting, it would be listed in the contract as a required duty, so you HAVE to attend. You are paid to do what is outlined in the contract, not per hour, and it sounded like that meeting was in the employment contract, so he would have broken the contract. It does all differ between companies, but that is the basics. If he was paid hourly, then a totally different thing.
Hey, I work salary too. But the company I work for, they made us log our time and each week, we must work at least 40 hours. So, even there are weeks we might go above 40 hours, there's never under 40 hours. I think what you said make sense. Yet, quite some companies not working that way.
@@excitegugu Yeah, it all depends on the company and the state. Salary just means a set pay rate, the details can vary quite a lot. I'm in San Francisco, and I've learned lately that our labor laws are quite different from the rest of the country, even on Salary, time 1/2 has to be paid for anything over 8 hour, and 12 hour is a max workday. I know it is worked into salary somehow, but don't understand how. I think where you live also influences how you react to this, a lot of the country is still at a min wage of $7.25/hour which makes 1 extra hour VERY important to some people, but then other places have higher min wages, It is $18.07 here, which would make people more able to afford to not care about 1 hour of pay. If that makes any sense.
@@HicSvntDracones I am in CA too. I am in Los Angeles. My past experience has been vary due to each companies policy. One company I worked for, even I was on salary. They gave us "1.5 comp time" per each extra hour we work, which was very nice. But most salary job only give us the fixed salary without anything extra. So, yeah.... Work 40 hr is min, but nothing extra if you have to work OT. Also, they are not happy when we need to work OT, we need to get the management to give us hours to do that that. It's like, I need to BET for them to let me work for free, because I want to finish the project.
@@excitegugu I worked in a similar place. And it is dependent on industry rather than individual company. Most employers only car if you don't meet the hours, but don't rush to send you home if you do over your hours, especially if you are salaried and don't get overtime. You're well within your right to walk away during the allotted finish times. However, if tasks haven't been done that have been outlined in a contract, that's where it gets messy. And in that case, it's really up to you to get it done on time to avoid the problem. That being said and if everything goes smoothly, sometimes it is simply just the daunting case that you have to go to your manager and say "I'm leaving". It takes a lot of confidence to do that especially when you don't know what the reaction will be. I never found the courage to do so and I know many others who are the same. There are two sides of the coin. Some people abuse the 'right' some are too uncomfortable facing it but choose to moan later. Also, some employers respect the confidence required to do such a thing, others genuinely resent it and it can mean the difference between a promotion or a dismissal, which when you have a family to feed is a deterrent from saying something in-of-itself. This issue has never been black and white.
@@ohhiitsmike Totally, I understand what you mean. The last company I worked for I see all the scenios that you've mentioned in the same office. Some even flip flop from one to another. One day they felt they have to work until 6, the other day they left at 4 without a word. It's chaotic. Anyway, I am those kind of good students who would follow the rules. Yet, I got laid off. I hate myself for being a good student.
The problem is if you cave, they will continue to expect it and then all of a sudden you've "effectively" voided your right to protest. If you worker changes your hours or messes with your workload, and you don't complain about it, you are seen as accepting it, and it's now part of your job. Employment law is dumb as ass. This honestly happened to a guy I work with who does a different job, he's on payroll side of things. They told him "You're doing all the payroll for all the new agency workers too now" He said, "no thank you, I already have my job that I have a contract for, if you want more work from me, pay me more, or give me better hours" They threatened to fire him, and instantly the next day he had a letter drafted by his lawyer. It outlined his formal protest to the illegitimate changes to his contract. Sufficed to say, they company backed down so hard, so fast, he worked there for give or take 40 years, he was a fucking wizard at his job, top tier. Every time he was on vacation, the whole place was botched and payroll was fucked for a solid 2 weeks after, the morons they got to fill in for him were terrible.
Employees who are on a salary do not have set work hours some weeks they can hardly work and other weeks they could work all week but no matter their hours worked they always get the exact same paycheck!
Salary pay is actually usually much higher than hour based exactly because they are paying you beyond just the hour. Like it's assume the times you work there is already covered.
@@Italsik That's a lie, because Salary employees are constantly expected to work more than 40 hours. Meanwhile hourly employees are paid 1.5x after 40 hours (or any other amount designated in your contract).
I used to work as a building manager on a salary concept & let me tell you….i got totally burned out!!!! 5 years and underpaid. I now work hourly from my home and I’m paid much more and my company pays me 150% for any overtime I do and it’s always if I want to do overtime. Be careful about the salary based jobs☠️
I agree with the work out dude. You have a schedule you have to stick to. When companies start paying people what their time is worth, that's when they should expect people to come in early and do those extra hours. When you have a job that barely pays the bills why would you give a fuck?
A lot of these employers essentially want you to be like Spongebob. So whipped for your employer that you overlook them trying to take advantage of you.
Imagine if the guy coming out saying it's a skit was actually a parody of the corporate lady's response, and they were actually the two parties involved in this situation
I hate that it wouldn't even be too far-fetched of a scenario in this day and age. We're really living in clown world. But it's also the guy clearly saying it was a skit, he's not the guy and people still accusing her of being the employer. 🥲 Again, clown world.
When an employee is being paid salary there is usually a contract stating their duties to earn their salary. They are given specific tasks and quotas that need to be performed in a given time. Meetings would be mandatory no matter the time. The thing is that they will have to work until their duties and quotas are completed. Sometimes they finish ahead of time and once it’s finished they are free to leave, on the other hand if it takes longer, then they need to work more than what they are paid for. Most often they will work more hours rather than less and it’s in this way that the employer benefits the most from salaried employees. A person on salary can end up being paid less than $5 an hours depending on how much time it takes to complete their duties. Never go on salary because when you do you’re basically at their beck and call.
Salary opens more doors to heftier benefits and leeway when time off is needed, though, and there's an unspoken rule around misuse of employee time in good companies.
@@saltworth2570 That is the thing. If you expect me to work more some days then when the work is done early i expect to be allowed to leave early but they don't let you. They tell you that your jobs hours are this and that and you can't leave before. Ok if that is my jobs hours then those are what am going to work with i am not working more ether.
I don’t believe she was contradicting herself. She essentially explained that if you work on a salary and it’s clearly defined as a 9 to 5 you don’t and shouldn’t need to work before or after those hours. However in that specific situation the consultant who makes 100k-120k base most likely does not work on a salary and is told before signing the contract that there are quarterly meetings for all new hires which include people in other continents. 8 am eastern time just happened to be best but the time will obviously be different elsewhere. TL;DR: Don’t work before or after your work hours. The employee mentioned in the rant from a different employer was most likely not working on a 9 to 5 salary and was told before signing that those meetings happen quarterly. With all of that said BEWARE of bad employers that do often try to take advantage of you to work before and after hours.
I absolutely hate meetings, but depending on your job, sometimes you need to make an extra sacrifice here and there. I had an 8AM meeting with the team from India recently. I could’ve told them to shove it, and either stay later (it’s 9PM their time) or just figure it out in their own, but I went, and it was an inconvenience but wasn’t too bad. How important is the meeting and how frequently do they demand extra time from you? Have boundaries, and if possible, leave companies that have unreasonable asks for your time, but at the same time, if you’re rigidly 9-to-5 at a corporate job no exceptions, then don’t be surprised if the company decide they don’t need your services anymore.
This is what I said. Im an IT Administrator working a 9-5 and there are always going to be circumstances that may cause you to come in a bit earlier or leave a bit later. If you can't deal with it and you ONLY work your hours then don't bother working in the service industry or corporate. Go do some gig work or become a contractor that way you can set your own hours
As much as I hate getting up at 5:30 to make it to my 8am shift, it's what I agreed to with my job and I do my best to arrive early. It sucks ngl and I wish I could also be a RUclipsr and not have to do this. Edit: I'm too tired to try and think harder on the situation, but if the story of the viewer response is true then I would say it's a bit out of the ordinary to ditch a quarterly meeting that's pre-arranged, but if the original setup was true then I'll stand by the idea that it's not okay to make someone go to work an hour early for a meeting without any warning
No... I'm 36 and I am NOT working before or after my working hours. If I say no, it's no. It's simple... If I am paid for it, I may say yes but that would not be the day before. Lol.... Absolutely No
Arrive when you arrive. Work later if you have to hit that 8 Hours. If there is traffic then you get there when you get there 🙄. Employers want work from the office than they better get used to late arrivals if there is traffic
@@Lelecheyou're also a female this man thinks the world will be as forgiving to him as it is for you...he is about to be fired without explanation and doesn't even see it coming
@@LucasFernandez-fk8se Most employers understand. But, if you are having traffic problems on the regular, you need to start leaving for work earlier. With stuff like Waze out there, excuses are pretty weak.
I am Gen X. Once I got called into work on a few hours notice. I said, "No." They said if I did not show I would be fired. I had other appointments booked which could not be rearranged in a short period of time. Also, it is not my responsibility to shift my life for another person's regardless of situation. I understand people have things going on, but so do I. I said, "I quit." They told me I was not allowed to quit, especially on such short notice. That made me laugh... I belong to no entity, corporate or otherwise. We are not beholden to our employers. It is not acceptable for managers to threaten employees on their day off. It is ludicrous. My current bosses understand that I never respond to my phone, so don't even try. My time is absolutely mine. There is no compromise.
you will also be very high on their list for replacement. while I agree in principle with you I have been working long enough to know employee actions bring consequences and being the employee that just does the minimum means when it come for layoffs your high on the list
Did 20 years in the Navy. Meetings about meetings. Was a contractor for the government, meetings about meetings with the government. 9 out of 10 meetings are about the 10th meeting. Most people in leadership positions use their position to justify their role in the company/government/entity. This is because they are not qualified and should never have been allowed in that position. If you feel the need to micro manage, either your staff needs training, or you need training. Where I work now we have meetings like you would expect. A meeting about a particular requirement/need/adjustment; also the meeting has a point, you have an issue that needs resolution, the meeting is to discuss the topic and come up with a plan of action.
Millennials: Tell employers to f*ck off with their nonsense. Everyone else: How dare you?! Be grateful! Gen Z: *Does exactly the same thing* Everyone: Yea good on ya! Be the revolution we need! Millennials: Wtf...
The millennials have been demanding money for doing nothing (universal basic income) and while everyone productive be forced to give up their own hard earned money to give the millennials food and medicine. "It's a human right!" they say without realizing work goes into making that shit, work they explicitly demand to be left out of. In other words, millennials have fostered a lot of bad blood with the working class (usually while claiming to be for them, while also saying they need to oppressed for wrong think). Gen Z is working while standing up for themselves. No long speeches about Marxisms, calling people you've never met racist, or a demand for free things. Just "I have rights and your not trampling on them", a very working class sentiment.
@@blacksmoke6292 That's why we're wtf'ing man. The same people who are now all for Gen Z "sticking it" to the man. Were the same people telling our generation (and still telling us, while telling them the opposite), "Be grateful you even have a job".
@@Tixbomber Imo I genuinely don't believe it's that generation specifically that's sticking up for us. I just think it's gotten to the point where everyone agrees that something wrong and we're just telling the older generation to shut up, you're old and dying, lol.
As a salary employee in engineering, sometimes morning meetings r required to keep everyone on the team on track. If u r hourly, u will be paid for that extra hour, if u r salary, sometimes extra hours r necessary
I been trying to get a job also and 2 of the jobs say they are hiring for a specific position but once I’m at the job they change my position to something else I didn’t apply for and that’s super annoying I just don’t show up the next day.
That happened a lot when I was younger in my teens and early 20s. Don't just not show up the next day. Have a conversation with your boss first if you didn't start at the position discussed at your interview or orientation. In my experience, if you put up with it and learn how to be good at more than one position and seek out the knowledge to learn more, you'll be valued and relied on and that's when you can negotiate a promotion or a raise. You won't be considered expendable anymore. When you prove you'll be more reliable than others and are willing to learn more than just your position, you're taken way more seriously. But if that's not what you want to do, let it be known to your boss or employer.
@-dfh-866 thats a good way to get taken advantage of in this day and age it happened to me working at an exotic animal distribution facility the boss man caught on that i had construction experience and was a hard worker and would always try to get me to work late and do other things outside my job description and things that he would have to hire a licensed contractor for and whenever i would do it he would still not pay me anything extra for it ever. I understood after about 2 years of that job when i quit that this is why so many other gen z guys dont want to work for anyone else or even work at all because you always end up getting screwed over by greedy bosses trying to profit or save thousands of dollars using your hard unpaid labor. I will never look at older generations the same again or have the same respect for elders as i was raised to its a shame there aren't enough good people in this world to change my mind at this point i dont like to look at everyone in such a negative way but all i see is the truth people are f ed up.
@@-dfh-866 The problem is they want that participation trophy,. They went to college by god and so that makes them so valuable they don't have to learn anything else, It all should be given to them.
No if you're a salary worker to take your behind to work where they need you. You get paid the same regardless of if you worked 1 hr that day or 12. So if you need to be called in early then you go bc that is what you contract obligates.
@@karmst1996 No like his pov. Bro's said it right and listed the 2 options the employer had. Watch it again from the point where it shows the video to the point when the guy's rant is done
Pointing out it was a workout class was unnecessary (unless it is physical therapy or something along those lines). If the agreement was 9am, then it is 9am. Whenever someone asks why you can’t come in early or stay late: “I’m sorry that is a personal matter that I don’t feel comfortable sharing.”
if you are on a salary, its different from working hourly, while on a salary, it doesn't matter how many hours you work because your pay won't increase or decrease because it isn't based on the amount of hours you put in. its a fixed pay, so if someone was scheduled to work 9 to 5 but was on a salary and they told them to come in at 8 for a meeting, they would still get paid the same. thats what the lady was referring to.
Never be a slave to these companies. If it says 9am-5pm. Thats your work hours. Youre allowed to say no if they ask you to come before 9am or after 5pm. If you're not getting paid, of course you should say no. I used to think that if i took all shifts and made HRs life easier, i will have a promotion. But no, it affected my mental health and happiness. I did my job right and everything and they still gave the position away to someone with seniority who made multiple mistakes.
I ran my own construction business for over 25 years and the only meeting I ever had with my employees was once a year to see where they wanted to go for the Christmas piss up.
I love all this, both parts created a small drama not giving enough context (with a major fault in internet people not researching enough) and they responded as quickly as possible took accountability and apologized fo the justified misunderstanding, that the internet i love.
Both parties didnt give enough context because that was their goal. To get the internet all hyped up and create engaugment. Shit, Pegasus did the same thing. He didnt tell us it was all Bullshit until 4:31 into the video.
I have 3 people that report to me. I take my employees time very seriously. If I need to schedule a meeting outside of regular hours, I clear it with them beforehand. That being said, some employees are all about going above and beyond and that is appreciated and doesn’t go unnoticed.
If my work tels me to be there at 8 til 5 I'm going to be there at 8 and go at 5. Edit: i think some people mightve misuderstood me. I was siding with the guy. I meant that I won't go beyond my work time.
@@wizZzles-rf1yb its not on my contract so no. What I meant with this comment was that i wont do anything out of work time. But i think some people mightve mis understood me.
so basically, what is on the internet, is never really a true, and still people believe it like their life depends on it- i miss the times when there was no internet
@@naganut9718 and people like you who just can not stop the urge to reply like that, instead of leaving an opinion as an opinion. again. internet so good.
Salary is a scam. I was a salaried assistant manager at a pizza place for 2 years. Busted my butt cuz I loved it and got burned in the end, but my salary was $750 a week. The catch was I had to work 50 hours a week. So I basically made a glorified $15/hr and didnt get overtime period. They told me it was because we would get a biweekly bonus but it wasnt guaranteed, could be taked away for whatever reason our district manager came up with, and often wasn't much anyways. Any hours I worked over my 50 (I averaged at least 52 every week, sometimes close to 60) was just free labor. I also had to answer my phone and be prepared to come in anytime my higher ups asked, even it was my day off. Only exception was if I took pto. Tldr: salary is a scam, stay hourly.
It is, I sold cars for two dealers and my salary that I earned had to be returned from the commission I earned and if I didn't earn enough commission to return it then I would be let go.
@@coincollectorchaseThat's commission sales. Hardly anyone gets a salary on commission sales position. That is normal, but it's not what they are talking about here.
@@gabrielpowers766 it is not normal to have to return a salary paid out of commission sales. I don't sell my time for free just for doing a good job. Salary = wage Commission = bonus
I find it insane that people just post personal things online for the public to see. Including their jobs. It’s just ridiculous. 😂😂😂 Anybody who does that needs to expect to be fired.
Many people do it, because they have no one else to talk to about it. I’ve had a crazy things happened to me, that I just wanted to share with someone so bad but I didn’t know how to casually interject it into a conversation.
Grounds for a defamation suit… Even after he comes out and admits he was acting, and isn’t her employee his damage was done. People don’t believe him and are going after this woman’s business and livelihood..
@@lexnight8345 agreed. if he can't take the heat he shouldn't have put that tiktok out in public under such misleading pretenses... she said be on time, and work harder.. like all bosses do.. were your feelings hurt when she said "i don't give a sh*t about your workout class"...? you'll have to point the "some sh1t" for me or else you sound like a whiny little anime kid..
So black incel small D guy here and this is how things are for me. I'm abgraphic designer for a real estate brokerage. I have to commute to work and the hours are from 8 to 5. Since day one I asked for 7 to 4 because I wake up at 2 am to go to the gym and coming in the evenings at 5 were traffic heavy, so 4 works. If I get to work before 7, like around 6:20, I have time to wash my car and chill before I start day. I put all my socializing time, church, deep sleep and so on for the weekends or vacation time. I pledged in college so I am used to waking up early and going to bed around 7 or 7:30. This works for me and I've been doing this for years. I used to work 2 jobs and made time for everything. I'm a 89 baby and a former immigrant turned proud American. There is a fine line between making excuses, being lazy and taking on too much of a load. Finding a balance is key, but if you don't try to make something work then what's the point? Find a job that works for you or get a better mentality with the mindset to do greatness. Simple.
Regardless if you are salaried or not, the message of the fact you should come tomorrow at an earlier hour should be done at least 24 hours before when you are supposed to come because you need to reschedule that day's appointments or entire plan for the day. I don't know how it is in the USA but where I live after 5 PM, even after 3 PM you are unable to reschedule appointments. And depending on the premise, you may not only get banned from using the services but also get fined for not coming on time or not messaging a day before (you cannot reach them after 5 PM and they do not read emails for the same reason because no one's there). Now the fun part: what if someone does not jump onto E-mail or turns off the work phone (because no one in the right might use their private phone nowadays anyway to keep their privacy, at least in here)? Over here, unless you are an emergency worker (firefighter, police, etc.), you have zero obligations to respond to work-related e-mails and telephones, and even if you respond to the call you have full right to refuse without further repercussions (at least done legally).
If you have a corporate meeting quarterly and it was made known during the interview process, then you are obligated to go. It’s part of the contract you agreed upon. You can ask for a bonus for coming into work 1 hr early 4 days a year. But they’re probably not going to give that to you. Either give 4 hours of your year to know what your company is doing, or work that 9-5 hourly job where they really don’t care. Salary jobs come with fine print. It’s your job to read it.
Im 15 and have no work experience. I tried my hardest to go above and beyond for my employer, but it seemed that no matter what i did, it was never enough. My boss would threaten to fire me if i didnt come in the days i was supposed too which makes logical sense, Except for the fact that the days I did call Out of work. I was sick , and I worked at this place 6 months and only ever called in two days. I still work there but i plan on quitting if things continue to be toxic
At my last job I've used to wake up at 4am, I used to hate waking up so early & I'm not even a morning person at all , That I've noticed that I was started to become more depressed. Just because I hardly didn't get enough sleep then top of my anxiety comes more at night . so its was best for me to switch Full time & Part time
This is why I work from home as a RUclipsr and the only meetings that I go to are religious ones at the Kingdom Hall. Yes they are scheduled, but I know what I’m getting into and if I’m late I’m not gonna be berated. Although they would prefer it if I was on time.
@TrishaSmith then try to schedule ur uploads, it will boost ur viewers by a lot if u do. I suggest u try uploading at 3 pm on weekdays and 5 pm on weekends. Since I can tell that you have been consistently uploading content in your channel, this shouldn't be a problem.
@@KarroszuMiaka thank you also we small channels stick together it appears you’re also doing well on your channel. I hope we both get to 1000 subscribers together. Keep up the good work mate.
So I'm 45. I'm pretty much disgusted by the younger generations' work ethic. However, I agree with this guy. If his work hours are 9 to 5, then they are 9 to 5. My time is not my employers time. It's management's job to schedule meetings when all parties can attend during normal work hours.
We are disgusted by y’all’s low salaries and entitlement 🤦♂️. Either pay a living wage or get used to people being on their phones during work. You can either pay people enough to care or you can deal with a bunch of dead eyed phone zombies doing 2 hours of work during an 8 hour day. Y’all aren’t paying us enough to leave our parents homes. Y’all don’t pay enough to buy A FREAKING CAR. (Used) Cars are 30k now and rent is 2k a month. If your job isn’t paying 72k a year AT ENTRY LEVEL, then expect people not to care
Salaried basically meams you get paid a set amount regardless of the hours. It means on slow times if you work less you still get paid the same, but during busy times if you work more youre still paid the same. A lot of employers dont want you to know that theres never a slow period. (At least in retail) theres some jobs where thats a sweet deal, if you know you can finish all your work early then youre good.
Ngl some people have a life outside of work, its fine if you get paid well for those extra hours of your times but if they barely pay and treat you like shit then who really gives a fuck? Also why does everything have to be recorded?/lh
Not sure if that's a genuine question or sarcasm but for people who genuinely want to know: Everything has to be recorded to protect yourself and prevent people from taking advantage of situations or people they deem weaker than them. Humans have become so untrustworthy that You should be recording yourself Every time you leave your house at this point. Documentation is extremely important in any and all situations
Salaried vs Hourly: Salery means you work for this set amount of dollars per month/week/year, whatever it is your contract states and that you agreed to. But, this involves being on call the entire time. 24/7. That is ALWAYS the agreement you make when agreeing to Salary instead of hourly. Blackout times that you set to not be on call should be negotiated and written into the contract when deciding what that salary is. One of the biggest reasons I am still an associate instead of management where I have worked for 9yrs. I am not about to be worked to the bone and feel as if I am not being paid right for it.
No one truly likes working jobs, careers sure. But jobs? Nah, its all for survival. Accept tge agreed upon terms or people would just go apply for the next company that would treat them slightly microscopingly better.
Hi as explained as someone who's salaried in sales for a 7 to 4 in my contract before signing it's said there's a mandatory meeting at 6 am every 6 months. Is it out of my 7 to 4 yes but do I have to go cause it was in the contract I walking signed and agreed to yes. So if this is stated and agreed upon when you're hired you have to go. Also fuck the dude bashing someone with zero context for clout
I mean, he should also have to agree to the terms. You shouldnt only wake up at 10am or something everyday. Personally I want to get up earlier so my day isn't ruined by excessive amounts of nothing all day.
@@edited1325 Want everything handed to them, won't go the extra mile bitch and complain about anything if I was company I'd be dumping money in to Ai and robots so in the next ten to 20 years I don't have to deal with grown ass adults acting like children thinking their special and like the world owes them something when it doesn't.
Yeah as much as I am usually with the boomers when it comes to work etiquette, I agree with the Gen Z dude here. I am a corporate manager myself. I have people reporting to me all over the world, I understand that when I ask an employee to work out of hours last minute that 1. It's not a given and 2. I should absolutely compensate them. Like don't get me wrong, manager lady, this stuff happens. I had to ask two of my reports in India recently to work on a Sunday, and I was Friday. But you know what I did? I asked. Expecting a potential no, and as a manager *I SET EXPECTATIONS WITH THE PROJECT THAT THEY MIGHT SAY NO*... WHICH IS YOUR JOB! They actually said YES and so because of that I GAVE THEM THE NEXT FRIDAY OFF so they'd have a 3 day weekend. This is how you handle the situation correctly.... Not complaining on tiktok.
I’ve only ever asked for one day off when I was sick. - Have had the boss call me in to cover for other people. Even ones in different offices on my scheduled day offs. - Boss tried to call me in during another scheduled day off. - I had already asked not to call me in that day since I already had plans. - Didn’t go. I had made if clear I had plans on a certain day later this month weeks prior before they even finished making the schedule. - They still scheduled me. - Called to remind them I needed that day free. - Said they would fix it. - Schedule updated today. - They removed an hour from my already short shift today from 3 hours to just two hours. Still haven’t removed that day I need. 🤦🏻♀️
*"SALARIED EMPLOYEES"* are usually on a high level of pay with many benefits and the hours are flexible as required. They may be taking a client golfing one afternoon and working until 11pm the next day [literally speaking from personal experience] - some jobs don't fit neatly into a 9-5. BUT - i am sure this is getting abused no end today
So, maybe read your contract before you sign it? If the contract says they can call/tell you to come in at anytime (even in a round about/sneaky way), then per contract you're obligated to fulfill that. If you dont fulfill the contract then they have grounds to fire you. If you dont like what the contract says, then you can negotiate whats on the contract. Dont sign anything until both side have a updated contract and there's no sneaky language in there (we can update the terms at any time we want without your consent). If you dont know how to negotiate contract then tough luck, go work for a union shop.
I don't mind going into work early, but that's only because my company pays me the OT and they always give me the heads-up to do so. I don't also mind pulling favors for my supervisor and such, because my company goes pretty far to make sure we're taken care of. Take care of your people, and they'll take care of you.
I had to tell my employers several times to each one of them thru years of work that I have a, family, kids, other obligations, Dr checkups, generally a LiFE outside the workplace and I am not a, robot with an on/off button... If something is discussed earlier so you can organize yourself, no problem, but these short notices were killing me, my colleagues too and here is much worse then there trust me
I do agree that if you want your staff to start work earlier, you should let them off earlier as well. Why do corporations like to milk employees and not pay them at all? I used to work at a big corporation in which my jobscope works around the clock. APAC will handover to EMEA to NAM and then the cycle repeats. As I was in APAC we were always expected to attend night calls at 10PM once every fortnight. Or if we could not finish our work during work hours we needed to log back in at night. Once my EMEA colleague told me I should not be working until so late. But all these translated to nothing as people expect you to function normally at work the following day as if the night calls didn't happen...
3:02 a company I worked for did this. Scheduled a meeting ways out of our working hours. Our Manager had to argue for pay during this time for all workers attending. Loved that manager lol
Why is it so scary to say no to our bosses? My boss at my last job started asking me to come in on my days off quite frequently. Of course I would get paid for those days, but I started saying no and it was scary at first. However, eventually I made it clear that my days off I have things scheduled like dentist appointments and what not that I do not want to reschedule. Eventually, I said no enough to where they stopped asking
When I got out of treatment my workout routine every morning was a major reason why I stayed sober, and I made sure to get jobs that didn't interfere with that.
I don't particularly agree with the point (I stopped a few seconds into you talking about it) that "all meetings are useless". A lot of meetings could have been an email, but when we are talking about new features, which provider to go with, how to integrate them with our system, etc, there needs to be a in-real-time response over Zoom or in person to get to the bottom of it. Otherwise, it's an async back and forth over Slack which takes a lot longer.
I don’t think it’s crazy for an employer to ask for help but it’s 100% our right to say no. He could have said no just cause and that’s still reasonable!
If he’s new on the job he doesn’t have much leverage. But yeah u right
@@TandemSKITTLEZyou work what’s in your contract that both employer and employee signed. If you can say no, you can say no. If it states that the employer can change your hours and you can’t say no then you have to go in. New hire or not. Working is a business transaction. I offer my services you pay me in money.
It depends really. I would only do it if they did it for me
I never once in my life accepted to work for free. I got pushed to work longer hours but was compensated when I was younger, now, I won't budge. Had a job that required me to show up at the security gate and then my boss would drive us down to the job site which took 15-30 minutes each way. He saw me marking my hours one day and was like, 'We don't pay for driving, that's on you." I just stared at him and was like, "Are you stupid?"
Because I didn't want to get in a big fight as I was only 19 at the time I just mentally logged any time earned and spread it out over the weeks as our hours varied based on the tasks needing done, sometimes 10, sometimes 12, sometimes 16. It was based usually on the weather, if we could work we worked. So I just started rounding in my favor anytime to make up for lost hours he tried to take from me for being on the job site. So worked till 6:03, I put 6:15 until I made up my hours, he didn't check all the time so that's how I was able to get everything I worked for. If it had really become an issue I would have probably fought harder. I HATE doing free labor and even at 19 I wouldn't have done it, I just found the easiest solution back then.
Your time is your time and is valued at your time = as someone else's time.
They don't have MORE value over yours.
So if Karen wants to take leave because her kid has soccer match and you had leave first and you were going to go home and watch netflix, don't get bullied into her time is more value because kids. It's yours, you worked for it, you earned it. Hate people who don't plan for events but try to bully you into doing something you don't want to.
Or just don't respond to the text
Employer wants you in by 8, but the paycheck starts at 9. That’s the way the logic of these companies seem to operate on. Stick to the hours you’re scheduled, don’t give away any of your time for free.
no one said he wouldnt be paid. just fire him. he doessnt deserve a paycheck
@@dastubeurt6316 and let him starve?
They also want to spring it on you last second, but then want a 2 week notice if you need to take a day off for whatever reason
He had notice for the meeting and he is the one outside the companies main timezone. 9 am where the company is based and where the majority of people are is 8am for him. He knew that. He's lying.
@@dastubeurt6316bros a cringe Gen x er boomer
I used to work a job where we had multiple meetings a day, and now I work a job where we have none. My productivity is SO much better, let me tell you
Agreed. I have one meeting each time we get a new build, we go over all the specs, and stuff, and then that is it. when you have a question, we jut ask whoever we need to. Meetings used to be important, but now we have technology that offers much better options, such as instant communication with anyone
I've never been to a meeting that they couldn't have just covered it all in a email and saved us all, a bunch of time. I've had jobs, for instance, that are closed on Sundays and they've wanted us to come in and have meetings. I've never done it a bunch of people kind of followed my lead on that and the company just stopped doing it all together. Don't work for them anymore. But when I left they were just writing messages on the boards and sending emails and texts, it worked better that Way and you didn't have any employees showing up on Monday. Resentful that their weekend had gotten cut short for a relevant BS that could have been covered like I said in other methods.
same here I'll think that meeting is pointless , they take half of your time I used to hate going to them
From what i understand, talking to older managers and business people. Most meetings are just time wasters to justify their positions. Most people finish their work hours before they get to go home. The film office space covered this fact years ago.
@@masta_blind7131chick fil a?
I grew up being taught that going above and beyond for your employer was the way to live. It didn't matter what you had to sacrifice, you weren't considered a "hard worker" or a "devoted employee" unless you gave the company everything you had. Today I can see this for the scam it was and I'm thrilled that the younger generation is standing up for themselves and making time for themselves instead of being blindly devoted to a job. Because in the end, your job dosen't give a shit about you and if they can squeeze every drop of life from you while giving you nothing in return, they will.
Retirement sucks bit though and fuck keeping up with inflation. We get paid dirt, should work like dirt
Boomers completely duped Gen X into thinking that we were somehow less worthy and therefore never learned to bargain for fair working terms.
Go above and beyond only for the bosses who earned your respect. It’s totally disrespectful for any boss to ask you to come in early for a meeting just one day prior to the meeting. If they can’t respect your designated time off, then it’s fair that you disrespect their designated work time by giving them the bare minimum effort. And I’m saying this as a 41-yr-old. My own generation wasn’t raised to gladly put up with that BS.
the issues is companies used to offer retirement packages where if you worked for them for like 30 years you got money for the rest of your life, which was a huge benefit for staying in the company as long as possible, we dont have that anymore, and its exteremely hard to progress in a company these days, so your only option is stay with a company, build experience, and then leave and try to get that promotion from a different company for a higher pay, because there isnt any reason for me to stay
Every study done about how much hard workers are rewarded has always proved that hard workers are simply abused and scammed.
If working hours from 9am then it's from 9am.
Real i'm not wasting my time to start early
No shi 💀
You do realize, that when you get employed by a employer they can change your hours for any reason including meetings. You unemployed aren't you 😂😂😂😂 if you arrive at 8am you get paid from until you get off . They have labor laws. If your salaried tough fucking luck. They can work you whenever they want.
@@atrealjesus louder for the ppl in the back
@@atrealjesusto put it simple , if you want money , you gotta work on time
If you start at 9 start at 9. Im not coming early or staying late without pay.
I used to work in South Korea, the realm where overtime pay does not exist. If your hours are 9-5, or whatever time you’re scheduled, your employer will still make you come in early or stay late to make sure you get all your tasks completed. Also in Korean culture, it is considered rude to go home before the boss does. So we would have to stay late sometimes until they punched out.
She said w/o pay? nah thats wild
@@JustaNobody-j8x thats why they suicide, same with japan
@@JustaNobody-j8xkorea is shit
@@willybe6427well of course he doesn't know he doesn't show up from them.
Some employers really abuse work hours. I have a friend trying to get a job right now. He got one in sales and worked 3 whole days for them before they said that he wasn't cut out for the job. He didn't get paid a penny for any of the work.
That's highly illegal and he should contact the State's Labor Division about that
Or he could choose violence
I know my employer will schedule someone to close the store (Sometimes getting home at midnight-1am) then opening the store 6-8ish
It’s insane what happens
@@thatbandmidget4377 Had an employee in the past that did the same, expected me to run a bar shift 'til closing and then breakfast the next day. Nah, ain't happening.
That's illegal
Employers and corps today expect you to drop your entire life whenever they need your work, like they're their slave, while paying pitiful amounts of money
what kind of third world sweatshop do you work in bro
@appalachianwarcriminal
Ummm.. America. Half of US workers, make less than $30,000 a year. Are you brand new lol?
@@bailey7792
do you work retail
@@appalachianwarcriminal America? 😂
Not in Europe
I had a coworker who worked for the corporation for 27 years. She was a hard worker and extremely friendly. Because of budget cuts, they wanted her to leave by making her life miserable. Her life was so miserable that she finally snapped and they had a reason to fire her. Now she's working at Target making low wages, she use to make $145k a year and because she had no college degree due to her not needing it at the time she started working in the 70s , she had no strong credentials. Eventually they fired me too. This system is evil. Im done with money!
A hypothetical response from a unrelated person to a submitted post read. Successfully wasted everyone's time. A perfect depiction of usefulness of present day social media. Nice.
I wouldn't want to work with either of them. Soon as they said salary there wasn't a point anymore but both of them crying.
And then he said skit. Whatever I'm glad I don't work near any of these kinds of people.
I think it IS useful. Gets people talking about this important issue.
The corporate people at a certain coffee shop I used to work in expected all employees to be available and on call 24/7 without being in the contract to be available at all times since they're employees used to call off most of the time. They hire high school students and college kids at the highest rates. When I completed my hourly rate shift and there was a call off I had been asked to do a double shift and when I denied "you need to be a team player and be dedicated to the job". Up until April of 2023 I endured every little thing and I left for a company that respects days off and employee's mental/physical health. The old employer's Director of operations last words to me were "we will see you in three months since people don't last long where you are going", well it's going to be a year this April since I left and I have a more... important role in that company while getting paid more, traveling to other stores within their corporate market and most importantly earning a 401k since the other company I was working for never had my 401k set up when I first got a higher up position that included one back in 2018.
Was it starbucks 😭
Lol nope but close to the scummy practices
@@OGSynGaming got ya!
401K?!?
@@connorstamps1298 Starbucks did 401K for their employees tbh
It's so weird that everything needs to be filmed
Everyone wants to be famous
It’s a great method of communication that’s much more “human” than texting {shrug emoticon}
@@IMADINOSAURNOTABIRD fact texts get misinterpreted all the time
And it is only official if you film it in your damn vehicle.
@@IMADINOSAURNOTABIRD If you want a more "human" method of communication, call the person, zoom meet them, or *GASP* talk to the person in question face to face. There's nothing "human" about a pre-scripted/edited video where what you say is carefully collated and choreographed in advance. No I'm not a boomer either, video recordings have their place, but it's not at all more "human" or sincere. Quite the opposite in fact.
I do agree with you that texting is insufficient at times. At my old job, texts and emails were usually just a *reminders* for deadlines set prior, not randomly sent for *new* objectives.
Salaried employees don't have fixed hours. I was a salaried employee (engineer) my entire working life. It has advantages and disadvantages. Even though there is a typical start time you would be expected to be available when needed. But, since you don't punch a time clock, if you need to come in late or leave early occasionally, as long as you don't abuse it, you can and it doesn't affect your pay.
You may or may not get overtime if you work extra hours and if you do then it's usually straight time rather than time and a half. But your salary is typically much higher and if there is a bonus program you're usually eligible for that which gives you an interest in the success of the company.
In the long run typically most salaried employees make out much better than hourly employees. Just about all company executives and professionals are salaried.
I am a working engineer myself. Agreed 100%
Sure they do
Facts. I hate going in early but it is what it is. I’ll gladly take my salary over hourly.
When she was talking about salary, she meant that it isn't just "9-5". It is whatever is specified in the contract, I work salary, so I get the same amount of income every month regardless of the hours I work as long as I complete the duties outlined in the contract. Sometimes I might work a 50 hour week, sometimes I might work a 20 hour week, so it all evens out (though MAX hours are in the contract). I am allowed to make my own hours, but some people might have specified hours, like9-5, and if they have a quarterly 8 am meeting, it would be listed in the contract as a required duty, so you HAVE to attend. You are paid to do what is outlined in the contract, not per hour, and it sounded like that meeting was in the employment contract, so he would have broken the contract. It does all differ between companies, but that is the basics. If he was paid hourly, then a totally different thing.
Hey, I work salary too. But the company I work for, they made us log our time and each week, we must work at least 40 hours. So, even there are weeks we might go above 40 hours, there's never under 40 hours. I think what you said make sense. Yet, quite some companies not working that way.
@@excitegugu Yeah, it all depends on the company and the state. Salary just means a set pay rate, the details can vary quite a lot. I'm in San Francisco, and I've learned lately that our labor laws are quite different from the rest of the country, even on Salary, time 1/2 has to be paid for anything over 8 hour, and 12 hour is a max workday. I know it is worked into salary somehow, but don't understand how. I think where you live also influences how you react to this, a lot of the country is still at a min wage of $7.25/hour which makes 1 extra hour VERY important to some people, but then other places have higher min wages, It is $18.07 here, which would make people more able to afford to not care about 1 hour of pay. If that makes any sense.
@@HicSvntDracones I am in CA too. I am in Los Angeles. My past experience has been vary due to each companies policy. One company I worked for, even I was on salary. They gave us "1.5 comp time" per each extra hour we work, which was very nice. But most salary job only give us the fixed salary without anything extra. So, yeah.... Work 40 hr is min, but nothing extra if you have to work OT. Also, they are not happy when we need to work OT, we need to get the management to give us hours to do that that. It's like, I need to BET for them to let me work for free, because I want to finish the project.
@@excitegugu I worked in a similar place. And it is dependent on industry rather than individual company.
Most employers only car if you don't meet the hours, but don't rush to send you home if you do over your hours, especially if you are salaried and don't get overtime.
You're well within your right to walk away during the allotted finish times. However, if tasks haven't been done that have been outlined in a contract, that's where it gets messy. And in that case, it's really up to you to get it done on time to avoid the problem.
That being said and if everything goes smoothly, sometimes it is simply just the daunting case that you have to go to your manager and say "I'm leaving".
It takes a lot of confidence to do that especially when you don't know what the reaction will be. I never found the courage to do so and I know many others who are the same.
There are two sides of the coin. Some people abuse the 'right' some are too uncomfortable facing it but choose to moan later.
Also, some employers respect the confidence required to do such a thing, others genuinely resent it and it can mean the difference between a promotion or a dismissal, which when you have a family to feed is a deterrent from saying something in-of-itself.
This issue has never been black and white.
@@ohhiitsmike Totally, I understand what you mean. The last company I worked for I see all the scenios that you've mentioned in the same office. Some even flip flop from one to another. One day they felt they have to work until 6, the other day they left at 4 without a word. It's chaotic. Anyway, I am those kind of good students who would follow the rules. Yet, I got laid off. I hate myself for being a good student.
The problem is if you cave, they will continue to expect it and then all of a sudden you've "effectively" voided your right to protest.
If you worker changes your hours or messes with your workload, and you don't complain about it, you are seen as accepting it, and it's now part of your job.
Employment law is dumb as ass.
This honestly happened to a guy I work with who does a different job, he's on payroll side of things. They told him "You're doing all the payroll for all the new agency workers too now"
He said, "no thank you, I already have my job that I have a contract for, if you want more work from me, pay me more, or give me better hours"
They threatened to fire him, and instantly the next day he had a letter drafted by his lawyer. It outlined his formal protest to the illegitimate changes to his contract.
Sufficed to say, they company backed down so hard, so fast, he worked there for give or take 40 years, he was a fucking wizard at his job, top tier.
Every time he was on vacation, the whole place was botched and payroll was fucked for a solid 2 weeks after, the morons they got to fill in for him were terrible.
Exactly. The more your allow them to exploit you the more they will do so.
Employers have become too entitled about their workers time
Say you don’t have any skills but want income, without saying you don’t have any skills but your want income.
@@PsychClubwrong
Employees have become so entitled.
@@PsychClubthat’s not what he is saying tho
@@coltonsmith3724 damn. Great response.
Employees who are on a salary do not have set work hours some weeks they can hardly work and other weeks they could work all week but no matter their hours worked they always get the exact same paycheck!
Sounds ripe for abuse both ways
Salary pay is actually usually much higher than hour based exactly because they are paying you beyond just the hour. Like it's assume the times you work there is already covered.
@@Italsik That's a lie, because Salary employees are constantly expected to work more than 40 hours. Meanwhile hourly employees are paid 1.5x after 40 hours (or any other amount designated in your contract).
I used to work as a building manager on a salary concept & let me tell you….i got totally burned out!!!! 5 years and underpaid. I now work hourly from my home and I’m paid much more and my company pays me 150% for any overtime I do and it’s always if I want to do overtime.
Be careful about the salary based jobs☠️
In other words, never accept a salaried position. Noted.
I agree with the work out dude. You have a schedule you have to stick to. When companies start paying people what their time is worth, that's when they should expect people to come in early and do those extra hours. When you have a job that barely pays the bills why would you give a fuck?
Good luck being unemployed LMAAOOOOOO 😂
@TimothyGod Good luck being a slave, wasting your life making money for other people.
@@TimothyGodplenty of jobs that pay well don’t expect you to work unpaid. If you work in the ones that expect unpaid work, well, that’s on you.
@@thelandlord111 that's fair
A lot of these employers essentially want you to be like Spongebob. So whipped for your employer that you overlook them trying to take advantage of you.
This is why I charge overtime to our department if I'm too work outside of normal work hours. The nonsense stops pretty quickly
Imagine if the guy coming out saying it's a skit was actually a parody of the corporate lady's response, and they were actually the two parties involved in this situation
I hate that it wouldn't even be too far-fetched of a scenario in this day and age. We're really living in clown world. But it's also the guy clearly saying it was a skit, he's not the guy and people still accusing her of being the employer. 🥲 Again, clown world.
When an employee is being paid salary there is usually a contract stating their duties to earn their salary. They are given specific tasks and quotas that need to be performed in a given time. Meetings would be mandatory no matter the time. The thing is that they will have to work until their duties and quotas are completed. Sometimes they finish ahead of time and once it’s finished they are free to leave, on the other hand if it takes longer, then they need to work more than what they are paid for. Most often they will work more hours rather than less and it’s in this way that the employer benefits the most from salaried employees. A person on salary can end up being paid less than $5 an hours depending on how much time it takes to complete their duties. Never go on salary because when you do you’re basically at their beck and call.
At the end of the day it all depends on the job, sometimes you cant leave before certain time even if nothing is happening.
Salary opens more doors to heftier benefits and leeway when time off is needed, though, and there's an unspoken rule around misuse of employee time in good companies.
@@saltworth2570 That is the thing. If you expect me to work more some days then when the work is done early i expect to be allowed to leave early but they don't let you. They tell you that your jobs hours are this and that and you can't leave before.
Ok if that is my jobs hours then those are what am going to work with i am not working more ether.
I don’t believe she was contradicting herself. She essentially explained that if you work on a salary and it’s clearly defined as a 9 to 5 you don’t and shouldn’t need to work before or after those hours. However in that specific situation the consultant who makes 100k-120k base most likely does not work on a salary and is told before signing the contract that there are quarterly meetings for all new hires which include people in other continents. 8 am eastern time just happened to be best but the time will obviously be different elsewhere.
TL;DR: Don’t work before or after your work hours. The employee mentioned in the rant from a different employer was most likely not working on a 9 to 5 salary and was told before signing that those meetings happen quarterly.
With all of that said BEWARE of bad employers that do often try to take advantage of you to work before and after hours.
he knew what he was doing not telling people it was a skit
I absolutely hate meetings, but depending on your job, sometimes you need to make an extra sacrifice here and there. I had an 8AM meeting with the team from India recently. I could’ve told them to shove it, and either stay later (it’s 9PM their time) or just figure it out in their own, but I went, and it was an inconvenience but wasn’t too bad. How important is the meeting and how frequently do they demand extra time from you? Have boundaries, and if possible, leave companies that have unreasonable asks for your time, but at the same time, if you’re rigidly 9-to-5 at a corporate job no exceptions, then don’t be surprised if the company decide they don’t need your services anymore.
This is spot on. They are way too all or nothing with what is ultimately minor inconveniences.
This is what I said. Im an IT Administrator working a 9-5 and there are always going to be circumstances that may cause you to come in a bit earlier or leave a bit later.
If you can't deal with it and you ONLY work your hours then don't bother working in the service industry or corporate. Go do some gig work or become a contractor that way you can set your own hours
As much as I hate getting up at 5:30 to make it to my 8am shift, it's what I agreed to with my job and I do my best to arrive early. It sucks ngl and I wish I could also be a RUclipsr and not have to do this.
Edit: I'm too tired to try and think harder on the situation, but if the story of the viewer response is true then I would say it's a bit out of the ordinary to ditch a quarterly meeting that's pre-arranged, but if the original setup was true then I'll stand by the idea that it's not okay to make someone go to work an hour early for a meeting without any warning
No... I'm 36 and I am NOT working before or after my working hours. If I say no, it's no. It's simple... If I am paid for it, I may say yes but that would not be the day before. Lol.... Absolutely No
Arrive when you arrive. Work later if you have to hit that 8 Hours. If there is traffic then you get there when you get there 🙄. Employers want work from the office than they better get used to late arrivals if there is traffic
@@Lelecheyou're also a female this man thinks the world will be as forgiving to him as it is for you...he is about to be fired without explanation and doesn't even see it coming
@@LucasFernandez-fk8se Most employers understand. But, if you are having traffic problems on the regular, you need to start leaving for work earlier. With stuff like Waze out there, excuses are pretty weak.
I am Gen X. Once I got called into work on a few hours notice. I said, "No." They said if I did not show I would be fired. I had other appointments booked which could not be rearranged in a short period of time. Also, it is not my responsibility to shift my life for another person's regardless of situation. I understand people have things going on, but so do I. I said, "I quit." They told me I was not allowed to quit, especially on such short notice. That made me laugh... I belong to no entity, corporate or otherwise. We are not beholden to our employers. It is not acceptable for managers to threaten employees on their day off. It is ludicrous. My current bosses understand that I never respond to my phone, so don't even try. My time is absolutely mine. There is no compromise.
you will also be very high on their list for replacement. while I agree in principle with you I have been working long enough to know employee actions bring consequences and being the employee that just does the minimum means when it come for layoffs your high on the list
@@kertagin1 Going above and beyond on the other hand means that they'll abuse you as much as they can because they know you won't do shit
U probably don’t pay your bills and live at home.
@@kertagin1yep plus u will never get a promotion
BASED
When even Grandma Droniak is calling BS it's really not a good sign.
Did 20 years in the Navy. Meetings about meetings. Was a contractor for the government, meetings about meetings with the government. 9 out of 10 meetings are about the 10th meeting. Most people in leadership positions use their position to justify their role in the company/government/entity. This is because they are not qualified and should never have been allowed in that position. If you feel the need to micro manage, either your staff needs training, or you need training. Where I work now we have meetings like you would expect. A meeting about a particular requirement/need/adjustment; also the meeting has a point, you have an issue that needs resolution, the meeting is to discuss the topic and come up with a plan of action.
99% of meetings in business and government are useless. That is reality.
Millennials: Tell employers to f*ck off with their nonsense.
Everyone else: How dare you?! Be grateful!
Gen Z: *Does exactly the same thing*
Everyone: Yea good on ya! Be the revolution we need!
Millennials: Wtf...
Boomers and baby boomers reallt plagued the millennials. Now everyone is at the point where we're telling the older generation to shut the hell up.
I think my comment was deleted but blame the boomers and baby boomers for that.
The millennials have been demanding money for doing nothing (universal basic income) and while everyone productive be forced to give up their own hard earned money to give the millennials food and medicine. "It's a human right!" they say without realizing work goes into making that shit, work they explicitly demand to be left out of.
In other words, millennials have fostered a lot of bad blood with the working class (usually while claiming to be for them, while also saying they need to oppressed for wrong think). Gen Z is working while standing up for themselves. No long speeches about Marxisms, calling people you've never met racist, or a demand for free things. Just "I have rights and your not trampling on them", a very working class sentiment.
@@blacksmoke6292 That's why we're wtf'ing man. The same people who are now all for Gen Z "sticking it" to the man. Were the same people telling our generation (and still telling us, while telling them the opposite), "Be grateful you even have a job".
@@Tixbomber Imo I genuinely don't believe it's that generation specifically that's sticking up for us. I just think it's gotten to the point where everyone agrees that something wrong and we're just telling the older generation to shut up, you're old and dying, lol.
LOL SHE IS TALKING RUBBISH SHE WAS IN THE WRONG!!! AND ONLY TOOK IT DOWN CUZ SHE GOT HEAT
That's crazy how employers think their entitled of a free hour 😂
As a salary employee in engineering, sometimes morning meetings r required to keep everyone on the team on track. If u r hourly, u will be paid for that extra hour, if u r salary, sometimes extra hours r necessary
I been trying to get a job also and 2 of the jobs say they are hiring for a specific position but once I’m at the job they change my position to something else I didn’t apply for and that’s super annoying I just don’t show up the next day.
That happened a lot when I was younger in my teens and early 20s. Don't just not show up the next day. Have a conversation with your boss first if you didn't start at the position discussed at your interview or orientation. In my experience, if you put up with it and learn how to be good at more than one position and seek out the knowledge to learn more, you'll be valued and relied on and that's when you can negotiate a promotion or a raise. You won't be considered expendable anymore. When you prove you'll be more reliable than others and are willing to learn more than just your position, you're taken way more seriously. But if that's not what you want to do, let it be known to your boss or employer.
@@-dfh-866 LMAO this was good advice 70 years ago, not now
@@eneco3965 it is good advice then and now. People are too soft and look for reasons to quit their job.
@-dfh-866 thats a good way to get taken advantage of in this day and age it happened to me working at an exotic animal distribution facility the boss man caught on that i had construction experience and was a hard worker and would always try to get me to work late and do other things outside my job description and things that he would have to hire a licensed contractor for and whenever i would do it he would still not pay me anything extra for it ever. I understood after about 2 years of that job when i quit that this is why so many other gen z guys dont want to work for anyone else or even work at all because you always end up getting screwed over by greedy bosses trying to profit or save thousands of dollars using your hard unpaid labor. I will never look at older generations the same again or have the same respect for elders as i was raised to its a shame there aren't enough good people in this world to change my mind at this point i dont like to look at everyone in such a negative way but all i see is the truth people are f ed up.
@@-dfh-866 The problem is they want that participation trophy,. They went to college by god and so that makes them so valuable they don't have to learn anything else, It all should be given to them.
It's crazy that people not involved can cause more issues.
5:36 i don't think it is that much of a plot twist, he just read out what the appropriate response to that
No if you're a salary worker to take your behind to work where they need you. You get paid the same regardless of if you worked 1 hr that day or 12. So if you need to be called in early then you go bc that is what you contract obligates.
@@karmst1996 No like his pov. Bro's said it right and listed the 2 options the employer had. Watch it again from the point where it shows the video to the point when the guy's rant is done
Pointing out it was a workout class was unnecessary (unless it is physical therapy or something along those lines). If the agreement was 9am, then it is 9am.
Whenever someone asks why you can’t come in early or stay late: “I’m sorry that is a personal matter that I don’t feel comfortable sharing.”
if you are on a salary, its different from working hourly, while on a salary, it doesn't matter how many hours you work because your pay won't increase or decrease because it isn't based on the amount of hours you put in. its a fixed pay, so if someone was scheduled to work 9 to 5 but was on a salary and they told them to come in at 8 for a meeting, they would still get paid the same. thats what the lady was referring to.
Never be a slave to these companies. If it says 9am-5pm. Thats your work hours. Youre allowed to say no if they ask you to come before 9am or after 5pm. If you're not getting paid, of course you should say no. I used to think that if i took all shifts and made HRs life easier, i will have a promotion. But no, it affected my mental health and happiness. I did my job right and everything and they still gave the position away to someone with seniority who made multiple mistakes.
I ran my own construction business for over 25 years and the only meeting I ever had with my employees was once a year to see where they wanted to go for the Christmas piss up.
I love all this, both parts created a small drama not giving enough context (with a major fault in internet people not researching enough) and they responded as quickly as possible took accountability and apologized fo the justified misunderstanding, that the internet i love.
Both parties didnt give enough context because that was their goal. To get the internet all hyped up and create engaugment. Shit, Pegasus did the same thing. He didnt tell us it was all Bullshit until 4:31 into the video.
Really despise how a salary is considered to grant the employer 24x7 access to the employee.
I have 3 people that report to me. I take my employees time very seriously. If I need to schedule a meeting outside of regular hours, I clear it with them beforehand. That being said, some employees are all about going above and beyond and that is appreciated and doesn’t go unnoticed.
Some jobs in Asia you need to be half an hour or even an hour early to prepare for work.
If my work tels me to be there at 8 til 5 I'm going to be there at 8 and go at 5.
Edit: i think some people mightve misuderstood me. I was siding with the guy. I meant that I won't go beyond my work time.
good for you I guess
You’re a tool
@@mrgodspeed thanks i gues?
I''l be there at 7: 55 and leave at 17: 05. And you will work for me in a few years
@@wizZzles-rf1yb its not on my contract so no. What I meant with this comment was that i wont do anything out of work time. But i think some people mightve mis understood me.
so basically, what is on the internet, is never really a true, and still people believe it like their life depends on it-
i miss the times when there was no internet
Nah dumb people have always exist. Internet is just a medium that truly shines that stupidity
Also internet is genuinely a great tool that helps humanity, don't diss it because dumbasses uses it as well
@@naganut9718 and people like you who just can not stop the urge to reply like that, instead of leaving an opinion as an opinion.
again. internet so good.
@@jessicarie-tp6ti you post a comment and people replied to it, why are you surprised?
Agreed!!!@@naganut9718
Bruh, I would say NO too! I’m not going out of my way for no company that could care less about you! I’ll be in at 9
Salary is a scam. I was a salaried assistant manager at a pizza place for 2 years. Busted my butt cuz I loved it and got burned in the end, but my salary was $750 a week. The catch was I had to work 50 hours a week. So I basically made a glorified $15/hr and didnt get overtime period. They told me it was because we would get a biweekly bonus but it wasnt guaranteed, could be taked away for whatever reason our district manager came up with, and often wasn't much anyways. Any hours I worked over my 50 (I averaged at least 52 every week, sometimes close to 60) was just free labor. I also had to answer my phone and be prepared to come in anytime my higher ups asked, even it was my day off. Only exception was if I took pto. Tldr: salary is a scam, stay hourly.
It is, I sold cars for two dealers and my salary that I earned had to be returned from the commission I earned and if I didn't earn enough commission to return it then I would be let go.
Work for a good employer and you'll only work 35 if not less a week.
Taken* away
@@coincollectorchaseThat's commission sales. Hardly anyone gets a salary on commission sales position. That is normal, but it's not what they are talking about here.
@@gabrielpowers766 it is not normal to have to return a salary paid out of commission sales. I don't sell my time for free just for doing a good job.
Salary = wage
Commission = bonus
Your upload schedule is insane
I find it insane that people just post personal things online for the public to see. Including their jobs. It’s just ridiculous. 😂😂😂
Anybody who does that needs to expect to be fired.
Many people do it, because they have no one else to talk to about it. I’ve had a crazy things happened to me, that I just wanted to share with someone so bad but I didn’t know how to casually interject it into a conversation.
Jesus loves you he said love thy neighbor and forgive all
Mellieania here why so happy about this! Feels like gen z will change corporate forever!! Go gen z
Grounds for a defamation suit…
Even after he comes out and admits he was acting, and isn’t her employee his damage was done. People don’t believe him and are going after this woman’s business and livelihood..
she still said some sh1t... and if you can't take the heat don't be a public person
@@lexnight8345 agreed. if he can't take the heat he shouldn't have put that tiktok out in public under such misleading pretenses...
she said be on time, and work harder.. like all bosses do.. were your feelings hurt when she said "i don't give a sh*t about your workout class"...? you'll have to point the "some sh1t" for me or else you sound like a whiny little anime kid..
So black incel small D guy here and this is how things are for me. I'm abgraphic designer for a real estate brokerage. I have to commute to work and the hours are from 8 to 5. Since day one I asked for 7 to 4 because I wake up at 2 am to go to the gym and coming in the evenings at 5 were traffic heavy, so 4 works. If I get to work before 7, like around 6:20, I have time to wash my car and chill before I start day. I put all my socializing time, church, deep sleep and so on for the weekends or vacation time. I pledged in college so I am used to waking up early and going to bed around 7 or 7:30. This works for me and I've been doing this for years. I used to work 2 jobs and made time for everything. I'm a 89 baby and a former immigrant turned proud American. There is a fine line between making excuses, being lazy and taking on too much of a load. Finding a balance is key, but if you don't try to make something work then what's the point? Find a job that works for you or get a better mentality with the mindset to do greatness. Simple.
I’M ON THE GEN Z GUYS SAD DON’T ASK FOR SOMEONE TO COME IN EARLY A DAY BEFORE
Generations have nothing to do with it. Is about respect and not exploitation and treating others like you will treat your own.
This pretty much summarizes 99% of TikTok
Regardless if you are salaried or not, the message of the fact you should come tomorrow at an earlier hour should be done at least 24 hours before when you are supposed to come because you need to reschedule that day's appointments or entire plan for the day.
I don't know how it is in the USA but where I live after 5 PM, even after 3 PM you are unable to reschedule appointments. And depending on the premise, you may not only get banned from using the services but also get fined for not coming on time or not messaging a day before (you cannot reach them after 5 PM and they do not read emails for the same reason because no one's there).
Now the fun part: what if someone does not jump onto E-mail or turns off the work phone (because no one in the right might use their private phone nowadays anyway to keep their privacy, at least in here)? Over here, unless you are an emergency worker (firefighter, police, etc.), you have zero obligations to respond to work-related e-mails and telephones, and even if you respond to the call you have full right to refuse without further repercussions (at least done legally).
If you have a corporate meeting quarterly and it was made known during the interview process, then you are obligated to go. It’s part of the contract you agreed upon. You can ask for a bonus for coming into work 1 hr early 4 days a year. But they’re probably not going to give that to you. Either give 4 hours of your year to know what your company is doing, or work that 9-5 hourly job where they really don’t care. Salary jobs come with fine print. It’s your job to read it.
Im 15 and have no work experience. I tried my hardest to go above and beyond for my employer, but it seemed that no matter what i did, it was never enough. My boss would threaten to fire me if i didnt come in the days i was supposed too which makes logical sense, Except for the fact that the days I did call Out of work. I was sick , and I worked at this place 6 months and only ever called in two days. I still work there but i plan on quitting if things continue to be toxic
Yep, employers like that are a dime a dozen. If you find an actually good one you're extremely lucky, might as well play the lottery at that point.
At my last job I've used to wake up at 4am, I used to hate waking up so early & I'm not even a morning person at all , That I've noticed that I was started to become more depressed. Just because I hardly didn't get enough sleep then top of my anxiety comes more at night . so its was best for me to switch Full time & Part time
This is why I work from home as a RUclipsr and the only meetings that I go to are religious ones at the Kingdom Hall. Yes they are scheduled, but I know what I’m getting into and if I’m late I’m not gonna be berated. Although they would prefer it if I was on time.
Bro work? U don't even have 1k subs yet 😂😂
@@KarroszuMiaka I see it as a job now to prepare me for when I do have. And with my pain and energy, everything is work.
@TrishaSmith then try to schedule ur uploads, it will boost ur viewers by a lot if u do. I suggest u try uploading at 3 pm on weekdays and 5 pm on weekends. Since I can tell that you have been consistently uploading content in your channel, this shouldn't be a problem.
@@KarroszuMiaka thank you also we small channels stick together it appears you’re also doing well on your channel. I hope we both get to 1000 subscribers together. Keep up the good work mate.
Our generation is just tired of the bs. employers don’t understand that we know our worth. We’re not lazy we just won’t stand for it
A stipulated contract is a stipulated contract. Start at 09:00 and leave at 17:00. No ifs, ands or buts. That woman is absolutely deranged.
So I'm 45. I'm pretty much disgusted by the younger generations' work ethic. However, I agree with this guy. If his work hours are 9 to 5, then they are 9 to 5. My time is not my employers time. It's management's job to schedule meetings when all parties can attend during normal work hours.
We are disgusted by y’all’s low salaries and entitlement 🤦♂️. Either pay a living wage or get used to people being on their phones during work. You can either pay people enough to care or you can deal with a bunch of dead eyed phone zombies doing 2 hours of work during an 8 hour day. Y’all aren’t paying us enough to leave our parents homes. Y’all don’t pay enough to buy A FREAKING CAR. (Used) Cars are 30k now and rent is 2k a month. If your job isn’t paying 72k a year AT ENTRY LEVEL, then expect people not to care
Salaried basically meams you get paid a set amount regardless of the hours. It means on slow times if you work less you still get paid the same, but during busy times if you work more youre still paid the same. A lot of employers dont want you to know that theres never a slow period. (At least in retail) theres some jobs where thats a sweet deal, if you know you can finish all your work early then youre good.
If my shift starts at 9, I will be there at 9. I have a personal life outside of work
This is great. 😂 Love how it's all like some movie plot where everything's just a bit misunderstanding.
You got your channel back!! And you never mentioned it lol
Salaried jobs are such a scam. All it does is give employers the power to control the employees entire schedule, work and at home.
Everything is a skit now
This looks like Big Daddy HR was like fix this shit before we do 😂 lies upon lies
Ngl some people have a life outside of work, its fine if you get paid well for those extra hours of your times but if they barely pay and treat you like shit then who really gives a fuck? Also why does everything have to be recorded?/lh
Not sure if that's a genuine question or sarcasm but for people who genuinely want to know: Everything has to be recorded to protect yourself and prevent people from taking advantage of situations or people they deem weaker than them. Humans have become so untrustworthy that You should be recording yourself Every time you leave your house at this point. Documentation is extremely important in any and all situations
People need attention. 😂
Bye felicia, now you can workout whenever you want. His attitude is hilariously unemployable 🤔😂😂😂
This just goes to show you, you can’t trust anything you see on the internet.
Salaried vs Hourly: Salery means you work for this set amount of dollars per month/week/year, whatever it is your contract states and that you agreed to. But, this involves being on call the entire time. 24/7. That is ALWAYS the agreement you make when agreeing to Salary instead of hourly. Blackout times that you set to not be on call should be negotiated and written into the contract when deciding what that salary is. One of the biggest reasons I am still an associate instead of management where I have worked for 9yrs. I am not about to be worked to the bone and feel as if I am not being paid right for it.
No one truly likes working jobs, careers sure. But jobs? Nah, its all for survival. Accept tge agreed upon terms or people would just go apply for the next company that would treat them slightly microscopingly better.
Find a new employer. You can fit the meetings in at 9
Hi as explained as someone who's salaried in sales for a 7 to 4 in my contract before signing it's said there's a mandatory meeting at 6 am every 6 months. Is it out of my 7 to 4 yes but do I have to go cause it was in the contract I walking signed and agreed to yes. So if this is stated and agreed upon when you're hired you have to go.
Also fuck the dude bashing someone with zero context for clout
even the comments in this video seem to still not seen the context they still angry about the first half like they didn't even finish the video lol
I’m glad the uploads are back and good as ever🎉
I mean, he should also have to agree to the terms. You shouldnt only wake up at 10am or something everyday.
Personally I want to get up earlier so my day isn't ruined by excessive amounts of nothing all day.
We need a guy like this to keep corporate overlords in check. Better then any Human Resource group. The threat of being canceled is a strong force .
GEN-Z is going to be remembered as the generation of bums
Better to be lazy than an asskisser
Why?
@@edited1325 Want everything handed to them, won't go the extra mile bitch and complain about anything if I was company I'd be dumping money in to Ai and robots so in the next ten to 20 years I don't have to deal with grown ass adults acting like children thinking their special and like the world owes them something when it doesn't.
found the boomer
Hope he's more into sharing this info clearly because hes not allowed to defame others. ❤️
Yeah as much as I am usually with the boomers when it comes to work etiquette, I agree with the Gen Z dude here.
I am a corporate manager myself. I have people reporting to me all over the world, I understand that when I ask an employee to work out of hours last minute that 1. It's not a given and 2. I should absolutely compensate them.
Like don't get me wrong, manager lady, this stuff happens. I had to ask two of my reports in India recently to work on a Sunday, and I was Friday.
But you know what I did? I asked. Expecting a potential no, and as a manager *I SET EXPECTATIONS WITH THE PROJECT THAT THEY MIGHT SAY NO*... WHICH IS YOUR JOB!
They actually said YES and so because of that I GAVE THEM THE NEXT FRIDAY OFF so they'd have a 3 day weekend.
This is how you handle the situation correctly.... Not complaining on tiktok.
The fact that the employer and employee choose to communicate via TikTok clips
Pegasus, you can really see the difference in your body from about 1-1,5y ago vs now. Just looking at your arms, you really have put the work in!
i don't know why but your thumbnails always featuring your face looking so soulless are so funny to me 😭
I’ve only ever asked for one day off when I was sick. - Have had the boss call me in to cover for other people. Even ones in different offices on my scheduled day offs. - Boss tried to call me in during another scheduled day off. - I had already asked not to call me in that day since I already had plans. - Didn’t go.
I had made if clear I had plans on a certain day later this month weeks prior before they even finished making the schedule. - They still scheduled me. - Called to remind them I needed that day free. - Said they would fix it. - Schedule updated today. - They removed an hour from my already short shift today from 3 hours to just two hours. Still haven’t removed that day I need. 🤦🏻♀️
"I sent this to HR" she's a goner
*"SALARIED EMPLOYEES"* are usually on a high level of pay with many benefits and the hours are flexible as required.
They may be taking a client golfing one afternoon and working until 11pm the next day [literally speaking from personal experience] - some jobs don't fit neatly into a 9-5. BUT - i am sure this is getting abused no end today
So, maybe read your contract before you sign it? If the contract says they can call/tell you to come in at anytime (even in a round about/sneaky way), then per contract you're obligated to fulfill that. If you dont fulfill the contract then they have grounds to fire you. If you dont like what the contract says, then you can negotiate whats on the contract. Dont sign anything until both side have a updated contract and there's no sneaky language in there (we can update the terms at any time we want without your consent). If you dont know how to negotiate contract then tough luck, go work for a union shop.
I don't mind going into work early, but that's only because my company pays me the OT and they always give me the heads-up to do so. I don't also mind pulling favors for my supervisor and such, because my company goes pretty far to make sure we're taken care of. Take care of your people, and they'll take care of you.
I had to tell my employers several times to each one of them thru years of work that I have a, family, kids, other obligations, Dr checkups, generally a LiFE outside the workplace and I am not a, robot with an on/off button... If something is discussed earlier so you can organize yourself, no problem, but these short notices were killing me, my colleagues too and here is much worse then there trust me
Work, work, work 😂
I do agree that if you want your staff to start work earlier, you should let them off earlier as well. Why do corporations like to milk employees and not pay them at all?
I used to work at a big corporation in which my jobscope works around the clock. APAC will handover to EMEA to NAM and then the cycle repeats.
As I was in APAC we were always expected to attend night calls at 10PM once every fortnight. Or if we could not finish our work during work hours we needed to log back in at night. Once my EMEA colleague told me I should not be working until so late. But all these translated to nothing as people expect you to function normally at work the following day as if the night calls didn't happen...
Crazy how people think they own other people just because they have a superior position in their workplace
"We're paying you 9-5"
"we want you to come in at 8"
They had us in the first half and the second half, I'm not gonna lie
3:02 a company I worked for did this. Scheduled a meeting ways out of our working hours. Our Manager had to argue for pay during this time for all workers attending. Loved that manager lol
Why is it so scary to say no to our bosses? My boss at my last job started asking me to come in on my days off quite frequently. Of course I would get paid for those days, but I started saying no and it was scary at first. However, eventually I made it clear that my days off I have things scheduled like dentist appointments and what not that I do not want to reschedule. Eventually, I said no enough to where they stopped asking
When I got out of treatment my workout routine every morning was a major reason why I stayed sober, and I made sure to get jobs that didn't interfere with that.
I don't particularly agree with the point (I stopped a few seconds into you talking about it) that "all meetings are useless". A lot of meetings could have been an email, but when we are talking about new features, which provider to go with, how to integrate them with our system, etc, there needs to be a in-real-time response over Zoom or in person to get to the bottom of it. Otherwise, it's an async back and forth over Slack which takes a lot longer.