Jim Ross shoots on the WWE Confidential about Steve Austin walking out
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I was lucky enough to see Steve Austin live on several occasions in the Attitude era; hearing that pop live is unreal.
I git to see him at the rumble in boston and as the two men power trip vs the brothers of destruction.
Should've never turned him heel, the WWF/e has been in decline ever since
That was Steve’s idea actually . Agreed bad idea
@@josephohrablo4866 He immediately regretted it after seeing how it betrayed the fans. Was very close to calling an audible and just stunning Vince that night.
Terrible idea
@@GorditoCrunch343 Should've went with his instincts, & went with the stunner, bc that turn & the timing, was a mess. It's said that Vince, along with a lot of other WWE officials, tried to talk him out of it, but he wasn't having it.
@@sese6227 yeah Steve felt he needed to “shake up” his character. Which is dumb because he was white hot at the time. WWE was never the same after that night. End of an era.
$13 million a year! God damn it! Now that was asses in seats. No guaranteed money ($1 million only) just drawing power
Damn right. Stone Cold was a phenomenon -- not to mention the incredible ensemble which accompanied him. Everyone from the main eventers to the openers had a gimmick and an angle, and the majority of them were notable in some area, whether as a worker, a talker or as a physical specimen. It was guaranteed entertainment from start to finish.
Austin knew the creative was shite and wouldnt allow his name to be tarnished by losing to a rookie - it was career suicide. He done the right thing walking out!
Yep he protected himself. Good job!
Wrong he costed the company money. He walked out on the fans. JR was right.
@@jaysonpadron6425 JR also acknowledges that stone cold was right about the bad creative. And that steve should have been treated better.
if the buisness wants to dispose of wrestlers for their benefit they will , steve austin valued himself and that’s why he was at the top
Agree. Vince was someone who followed anyone who got immediate following. Brock had immediate following and he wanted to feed him Steve. Steve was right to leave. We as fans would be hurt had he lost to a young brock without a storyline. We are happy if steves happy
Stone Cold should have been the first Undisputed Champion not Jericho. It should of been Austin vs Triple H at Mania 18 not Jericho. Right after Jericho lost to Triple H he went right back to the mid card where he was before. They wasted the First Ever Undisputed title on him. Austin was right about the creative after 2001 everything sucked until like 2003 to me. I still remember watching the WWF turn into the WWE and how horrible the booking was during that time period. To me the start of the Ruthless Aggression Era didn’t start until after 2002 but the Attitude Era ended when WCW went out of business so you kind of had a period of time where the WWF didn’t know what direction it wanted to go into so they did the Alliance storyline for 8 months after that Flair and McMahon were Co Owners. To me WWE didn’t start getting good again until 2003.
Unfortunately they ran off Austin by constantly mishandling his booking he never should of been in a feud with Scott Hall and should’ve been the first Undisputed Champion like I said Austin’s character in the late 90’s saved the WWF from bankruptcy the antihero gimmick McMahon vs Austin feud saved that company and how did WWF repay that after all that Austin did they ran him out of the company with stupid heel turns and bad books and pointless feuds.
According to what I heard from Kurt Angle
Angle was supposed to be the first undisputed champion, but Vince McMahon told him to let Jericho be the first here, and Angel agreed.
Austin and Triple H's feud ended at No Way Out in 2001
When Austin became heel in 2001, this was his idea, and Austin admitted, 20 years later, that it was a mistake.
austin and triple h had a feud after triple h got injured and stone cold said he was the weak link, so a program was perfect for the 2 , have triple h go over against stone cold and have the fued go on for months after, then have stone cold turn face and triple h turn heel again. @@Abdarahman1405
@@Abdarahman1405 wrong Kurt was never gonna win stop it
He should have just said he lost his smile
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Why r these my favorite jokes
Realistically, he lost his smile back in 99 when Jeanne Clarke divorced him and took their kids to England to live with her.
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It's great to hear the regret in this video here. Thankfully 2020 has a very high standard of how we treat mental health, and it really shows how great society has come in that regard. I watched that Confidential for the first time just a couple weeks ago, factor in Austin's mental heath and the core motivation for that ep of Confidential... boy oh boy is that some miserable cringe. Again, great to hear the 180 shown in this video.
"Very high standard of how we treat mental health" 🥴 That may be true, when it comes to rich, famous celebs, but let's not get carried away & pretend this is the norm, for everyday people.
He punched his wife and evade arrest like a month later
I feel like Vince has had falling outs like this on so many occasions with his top guys. He lost Hogan, he lost Bret, He lost Austin, he lost Punk.
It seems like this is more of a Vince problem than it is a problem with them. I mean they aren't blameless, but it's hard to deny there isn't a pattern here.
Don't compare Punk to the other 3 true top guys.
@@stuart3753 Punk was a top guy. He was champion for over a year in a time period where the title would change hands every six months. He survived the ill fated ECW brand to become the top guy on Raw, the flagship brand. He was so organically over that the crowd was hijacking shows for months after he left because they wanted to see him. The fact that he was the top guy for his time period isn't disputable, it was just fact.
It's especially apparent since after he left, WWE has been rudderless since. They haven't had a real top guy since.
And just like those other 3, he had a falling out with Vince and left.
@@knightshousegames Thing is, even with that long title reign that he had, he only main evented 5 pay per views in that whole run.
@@ShaunInce123 Thats the whole "dtopping the ball" thing. Not using the top guy effectively
@@knightshousegames Cm punk is/was never ever mentionable in the same breath as the top guys. Example? Punk at his best is a mid card player in the attitude era who would have never held the Gold.
WWE confidential was a load of bollocks. Just Vinces Propaganda machine and him trying to rewrite history. Austin regrets walking out now but think is way too hard on himself as he saw the direction of where the company was going and knew it was a bad one.
Yup. He spoke out against creative for months before this, so they booked him poorly to fuck with him and he wasn't going to be a part of that.
@Misguided Angel No. But when you don't have plans for your biggest star of the past 3-4 years, something is wrong. The Rock was away so there was no immediate plans for him. So why wasn't the proper attention paid to Austin? There may have been other issues at play with that, but clearly there was little to no communication or trust. Because once again to take your biggest star and just put him in a throwaway match against your rising star is a shitty business move no matter how you look at it.
Agreed and they only came clean about it 20 years later in the Ruthless Aggression documentary after the fans knew it was all bullshit
Imagine if Austin went to TNA lol
If that had happened in TNA, there would have been the match that never happened between Jarrett and Austin.
Vince, to be honest around the time Austin left went through a bunch of Public Relations shit-storms: Changing the name to WWE, the Plane Ride From Hell and the lawsuits from the Flight Attendants, and an interview he did with Bob Costas where he basically drug Vince through the mud.
The Bod Costas interview was pretty entertaining. Vince was ready to hit the guy if you watched the interview.
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He didn't have a choice with the name change. The World Wildlife Fund took the World Wrestling Federation to court and won.
Steve Austin has been my favorite person on earth since I was 6 years old! OHHELLYEAH!!!
Bottom line Steve Austin got dragged through the mud and lambasted for actually doing the right thing after Wrestmani 19 the WWE product definitely started going downhill yes it was a slow down slide to start off but by the end of 2002 it was the beginning of the end of WWE being on top. In my opinion the only reason WWE in early 2003 was awesome was the return of the Undertaker, Rowdy Roddy Piper, Hulk Hogan, The Rock, and Steve Austin. By fall of 2003 the product was horrible.
“He took his ball and went home.”
As opposed to taking his ball to Hollywood like Rocky
It seems like j r was put between Austin and McMahon as a balance like a scale and he had to carry the load neither one of the two would give an inch🤔
Agreed. Another reason I love the man. Seems to be always straight up and honest and has no issue admitting when he is wrong.
Smart fans already knew he would be back after a while because there was no place else to go, he shouldn't have beaten Debra also
He didn't need to go anywhere, he was made and incredibly injured
He pushed Debra, he didn’t “beat” her
She shouldn't have stood in front of his hands
Austin was burnt out
Jim ross knows vince mcmahon slants things towards himself
Vince did everything he could for Austin, just like he did for The Hitman.
Vince did the same thing to Scott Steiner. It's all about the boss.
Nah, Steiner had problems walking in. Both attitude and physical. That's all on Scott
I remember how real it felt at the time
Could they have built a Austin Undertaker Wrestlemania match? Those 2 never had a match at Mania I don't think.
Took his ball and run home . 🤮 the amount times I heard this 💩
Austin if you're in the wrestling business for any reason other than making money it's the wrong reason.
Jr was an arsehole, stabbed his friend in the back big time.
Fuck that. Real friends tell it straight.
The heel turn was on Austin and Vince but they could’ve saved him with the undisputed title
I was around back then and I can tell you that the number one wrestling shirt probably from late 96 through the beginning of 98 was NWO. Not Austin 3:16
Austin piggybacked off the honeymoon period that the nWo created.
The shirts came about at around the same time. As the nWo debut and the Austin 3:16 speech happened weeks apart from each other. But I do remember reading somewhere that WCW screwed up the deal by not having enough shirts made for the demand. That's crazy to think that something you were planning for months and not being ready for the merchandising part.
It may have just been a Northeast thing but Austin 3:16 shirts were way more popular here than nWo.
@@Lord_Bibulous all I can say is that McMahon and the WWE are very careful of their wording. They say Austin sold more shirts than anyone else in WWE history not wrestling history That's because that go's too the NWO.
@@gilbert2795 Not disagreeing. Overall the nWo was more popular than Austin was at the beginning. Austin's popularity (along with the The Rock), took some time to rise and even more time for the ratings to reflect that. The nWo was a boiling pot with Hall & Nash and it turned into a grease fire when Hogan was revealed as the 3rd man.
One man with an off the cuff remark versus a thoroughly planned marketing push for a group of wrestlers.
Austin still wins.
I have always said that problems started with Steve once he knew Hogan was coming in. As soon as Hogan got there he was the #3, behind Hogan and Rock, or arguably the #4 behind Triple H who was one of the top baby's at the time. Steve wanted and needed the #1 spot. The spotlight to be on him. That wasn't happening
Plus you had Angle, beniot , Jericho, Eddie, taker . ... Lesnar, Goldberg
I think you are right and he couldn't handle moving out of the main event
stone cold's ego is so big he doesn't want to step aside for new talent guys to shine, he was the burying master guy before triple h and supercena
This period of time in 2002 was all about making the returning son in law look good at the expense of everybody else. Rocky sold out for Hollywood and Austin was left on Raw after coming up short in title matches with midcard Jericho. They had Steve feuding with Flair in a lame rehash of the McMahon feud. Nobody cared. Cant blame Steve for walking out. The creative was shit.
Jericho was 2nd only to the Rock as a face prior to Austin returning post injury. You can looknat it from Jerichos pov, he was held back by Steve returning but he waited and got the ultimate payoff by being the first ever Undisputed Champion.
@@PsychoKillertheGame he won the title by being a chickenshit heel though. They never let Jericho go over guys like Steve or Rock clean. Hell did Jericho ever get a clean win over HHH?
@@countryboyred lolllllll true you saying facts
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The product moved in a different direction amd Steve couldnt handle it. I will agree with not wanting to JOB to Brock for free on TV, but shit changed amd Steve couldnt hamdle not being the top giy for a bit. He mightbe been burnt out but he never explicitly said that. He chose to walk at the end of the day. Thats on him amd only him. He didnt get his way so he took his ball and went home. Amd i belive the only reason he came back 6 months later was because he knew his days as in ring were about over so he wanted one last hurrah.
stone cold is a disgraceful man, he was called upon to do the honors for a young uprising brock lesnar, he didn't and threw a temper tantrum, and picked his dusty ball and ran tf home where he belongs, he has a giant ego and plays backstage politics, even a guy like hogan of all people put brock over clean on televised tv
Let’s be real: there is a direct connection between Steve being the biggest box office attraction in wrestling history, and anybody giving a fuck.
True, but I think for Vince in 2002, Austin was no longer the future of WWF/E and he just wanted to have it because of what it generated.
Except Hogan is the biggest box office attraction in wrestling history but okay.
Seems Austin gets away with shit that the same people excusing him would totally rip hulk hogan apart if he did the same thing or anything similar. Seems hogan can't do anything right and Austin gets a pass
I have yet to hear hours upon hours of people calling Steve a piece of shit, a backstabber, a liar, a scumbag, a backstage politician, a guy who buried people, and not a single person having anything positive to say about them. Now, here is the thing Steve like many guys had diffs of opinions. Hogan however spent a lifetime being a d.bag. They are not comparable.
@@PsychoKillertheGame Yeah he only beats up women, I guess that's OK... Can't stand wife beaters and men who idolise them are even less of a man to think the sun shines out the guys ass yet he beats women and little guys weaker than them
@@PsychoKillertheGame The justifications people will make for Austin, even though he's already stated on multiple occasions, that he was in the wrong, are hilarious. It was just a "difference of opinion" 🥴
@@sese6227 stated he handled it wrong and shouldn’t have left. He wasn’t wrong and nobody thinks he was wrong and he doesn’t say he was wrong on the ideals just the approach
@@cutekanjii hogan schemed a whole business and cost other people money and a chance. Austin wanted to promote Brock and give him a bigger rub by losing he didn’t not want to lose. Professionally that’s fine and not a bad thing. You make it in their personal life you can say he made mistakes but a shorty person because of promoting Brock more?? I doubt it
I study music... wwf full metal the album was bullshit themes
The whole thing was BS
Jim Ross is a fare weather friend. Let’s tell it like it is. Jim says whatever it takes to stay in good graces with his employer including burying his friends.
I like Steve Austin the wrestler but honestly the man seems like a piece of $hit. Beating up women is unforgivable, and in my experience guys who do that are terrified of fighting a man.
It's wild how his fans either just pretend it never happened, or excuse it away, but they're the same one's who'll crucify other wrestlers, for their past mistakes. A lot of Austin fans, have blinders on & anything he does, is justified, because he was a massive star. It's quite bizarre.
Oh shut the fuck up
oh shut up
@@sese6227 am sure you the sameway you fanboy
wwe died because rock left for hollywood not cuz stone cold turned heel.
WWE died cause WCW died
@@jonathonlopez7714WWE died because they went directly from Attitude to PG rated to switch TV networks for a bigger TV contract and it cost them millions-fold selling out