Johnathan Pageau Clarifies THIS About His Friendship with Jordan Peterson…
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- How This Christian Became Jordan Peterson’s Right Hand Man… @JonathanPageau
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Jonathan’s RUclips Channel is “The Symbolic World.” My last comment seems to have magically disappeared.
I think this would be a good moment for you to make a sacrifice: let the people see this podcast. Of course I will also benefit from this.
how do i pay to watch only the jonathan pageau video, i have no intrest in signing in for a month. A Dolar is a lot of money in my country
Jonathan Pageau is a huge reason why I became an Orthodox Christian. He even gave a tour of my parish! Glory to God
Not unlike the pharisees, sadducees, etc...
@@JohnCephas???
@@user-hv7ef4st2r Can I help you?
Is the language too complex?
@@JohnCephas No, I know about the pharisees and Sadducees, I just don't understand what you're saying because it doesn't seem connected to my comment.
@@JohnCephas I'm not trying to be rude, just help me understand.
Jordan made me go from atheist to believer. God bless the man.
That’s amazing. Praise God
Other things brought me along that path, Jordan helped be understand the lore behind it all though.
Same for me, Christ is surely working through him whether he has realized it yet or not.
Remember it is the Holy Spirit working through his vessels and in this case Jordan Peterson not the man himself. Praise the Lord for he is merciful and worthy of all praise
Me too! But from agnostic to believer. Amazing how God works through certain people
First video I ever saw of Jordan was when he was on a campus getting verbally attacked by some ultra liberal students and he was standing his ground in such a magnificent way, then I went down the rabbit hole of his youtube videos and interviews. Been praying for his soul ever since. The man feels deeply, communicates wonderfully and has suffered greatly. I hope to one day speak with him on the other side.
right that's the first popular one that blew up where he was trying to reason with gay kids
Same!
Johnathan is doing Gods good work
Thanks to Jordan Peterson, I’m catholic now.
Welcome Home! 😊
You'll be even more thankful to him once you become Orthodox.
@gregcoogan8270 Divisive much? Unity of the church not the eyes telling the hands they are wrong. Seriously?
Please not RC!
@@chuckbester8430why?
I see Pageau having a similar influence to Jung on these topics for generations to come. Jung provided me the bridge from atheistic materialism to deism, and Pageau gave me the key that unlocked Christ within a deistic framework, and my subsequent conversion to Christianity. It may take 75 years (or 500) but I believe humanity wont be bereft of the value of Pageau's contribution to the rebirth of Christianity
That's a great comparison to make. Like you, Jung also started my transformation, and I think that you're right in saying that Pageau may play a similar role to many others.
nah man hes not THAT influential
@@JM-gu7jx maybe not, but presuming the internet exists for the next 500 years he may have some influence.
You need one last key unlock: Catholicism, the religion founded by God incarnate HIMSELF
I think he is Jung, reincarnated I mean. No proof, just noticed an extraordinary continuity between their life’s work.
So glad you got Jonathan on the show. This is important work.
Peterson and Pageaus story of meeting each other just before Peterson gets famous is astounding to me
The gushing as Pageaus talks about Jordon and how they met is just so awe inspiring, like two souls finding eachother in a field of daisies….hope their wives are ok with this polyamorous relationship😇
So cool!!🎯👊
I grew up catholic but was poorly catechized, never understood the Bible stories. Jordan Peterson and his psychological significance of the Bible series, opened up my mind to a totally new rational perspective to the scriptures. I finally began to connect the dots and see the philosophical/psychological significance. It finally made sense to me, I got back into my Bible and read away. Years later I’m back in the church and studying the word as a full blown believer. God changed everything.
Jonathan Pageau is the most original thinker on the planet just now, all informed by his devout Orthodox Christian beliefs.
I'd include his brother too.
When i was searching, God led me to Jonathan's channel. Through his words, I found Orthodoxy. I have never felt more at home in any other church. God is truly working through this man and leading others to Christ. I am forever thankful. Glory to thee O Lord!
C.S. Lewis had the same struggle. As an intellectual, he understood the part mythology plays in society and culture. He saw the value of the 'Christ myth' as much as the value of any other pagan myth where a god could become a man. Or stories of self-sacrifice as the greatest story arc. When he debated this issue with his friend J.R.R. Tolkein, Tolkein said, "of course, it's a myth, only this one happens to be true." I would strongly recommend Peterson read both Lewis and Tolkein, if he hasn't already.
Like so many I have a deep respect for LOTR and Tolkien. I just can’t, for the life of me, get my head around why God would challenge and expect us to make such a giant leap in faith considering there are so many reasonable, humble possible objections. Given what’s claimed to be at stake is of the highest importance, the eternal salvation of all of us.
@@rikkikeen1859what part of it do you see as a giant leap of faith? Every part of his life and story and teaching of what will come to pass during his second coming perfectly aligns with the foretelling of the prophets of the messiah. There is no departure or rejection from what has been taught throughout all of the Old Testament, only an affirming and transformative message.
@@rikkikeen1859 Both Lewis and Tolkein were highly intelligent Oxford professors and both knew and understood myths and how they worked in culture and languages. When it came to Tolkien having this conversation with Lewis, this was God setting the scene to allow it to happen. Sometimes He does the Road to Damascus scenario on people, sometimes just introducing someone to the right person can be enough to convert them and sometimes leaving a key relic like the Shroud of Turin behind is enough to convince someone.
@@rikkikeen1859The majority of people who have ever lived on Earth have believed in some sort of god, and the majority of people who have ever lived and who have ever heard of Jesus came to believe in him. It's a trick of modern thought to believe that materialism and naturalism is the "default" state.
Glad to see Pageau on here. If we wanna draw people deeper into the biblical story, we need to learn to stop worshipping relevance and get better in touch with the ancient universal symbolic structure of the Bible.
Love listening to Jonathan. Great interview!
Geez Ruslan, you don't need to "uh huh" or say something after every sentence the man says. Congrats on the great guest though. I always enjoy hearing Jonathan speak.
@@phlebas9204 good point. I didn't mean it to be some pseudo blasphemy but I guess it is eh
It's so awesome Jonathan pageau and Jordan Peterson are best good friends.
You're killing it with content Ruslan.. proud of you!
God is reason and wisdom. May He win over Jordan Peterson through the reasonable explanation of how things are, and the logic of how there must be a Power/Being that caused things to happen, and have the best idea and the authority to rightly say how things should be done. And may God in turn use him to convince and save the "thinkers/doubters" of humanity, in the "language" that they will understand.
Quit worrying about 500k, don't take inventory of who's following, just lift Up the name of Jesus.
Amen brother!
@@mhibbing1Amen. Amen. Amen. ✝️☦️✝️
Huge fan of the Pageau Brothers, and the larger Symbolic World community
Thank you for having Jonathan on your show!
Love seeing Jonathan on the show!
Love from Rescue Dogs Italy.
RUSLAN keep up the good work brother.
Hearing you talk about Logos made me think about the The Angel of the Lord in the Old Testament, who is Jesus Christ and knowing that Angel is another word for messenger. Quite literally the Angel of the Lord is a way of saying The Word of the Lord or the Messenger of the The Word of the Lord. So amazing
100%. Believe this thread of the scriptures you just hit on was exactly what Jesus showed the two on the road to Emmaus that got them to see and believe. Another nugget that helps fully understand what you are talking about is knowing the two different words for "man" in Hebrew. ('Ish" and "Adam"). If anyone were to word search the scriptures online for all the instances where the word "Ish" is used for "man" instead of "Adam", and learn and understand the difference between the two.....they would see the Old Testament a bit more clearly than they did before.
Can't wait for Peterson to make it on here too! This is a great convo!
Such a perfect answer from Jonathan concerning the private struggle of Jordan. I pray for them both.
Completely agree!
The Mass is the central act of worship in the life of a Catholic. We believe that heaven and earth meet in the Mass. As we lift our hearts to God, He comes to meet us, accompanied by the angels and the communion of saints. We offer our praise and worship, and we receive grace - we partake in the divine life of God.
Hebrews 12:22-29
@@jacobwoods6153 the liturgy is heaven on Earth.
Yes but you broke away from the Church and added non patristic non bliical dogma that has cause great damage to billions of people and spawned the soul damaging protestant reformation.
Great video. JP and JP - God most definitely put those two together.
Jonathan God bless you! Ruslan love and bless your Brother. A cathol Sister
You should have the Lord of Spirits guys on. That would make for a crazy conversation.
It was great to hear Jonathan is a former Punk Rock Enjoyer
It's always the defiant ones, wonder why that is 😅
Orthodoxy is the last true rebellion in my mind. The rebellion against a fallen world. It makes sense that punk rockers would be sympathetic to that stance. They see how sick the world is and some have come to the correct conclusion that we need God.
@@swagnius I found Christ through 'Black Metal' for as much as they sing about Lucifer, it is not in worship. They tend to point to the trappings of the physical world.
'Orthodoxy' or - 'We bow to God only.'
@@bobSeigar I am a fellow black metal enjoyer. Glad to hear you had a similar experience to me. I wasn't much in to punk but I did enjoy what I had heard in my youth.
@@KnightedBean will definitely check him out, thanks for the recommendation
I adore Jordan Peterson ❤
Peterson and Pageau led me to God and Orthodoxy and I truly believe God had his hand in all of it
Ruslan! Been watching since 2021, love your content and so thankful for what you do in this space🤘🏼 I’ve seen a lot of your interviews where you’ve practiced “active listening” by giving yeah’s to affirm what they say. I would just propose a larger gap between them as sometimes it sounds like you’re rushing your guest. I may be wrong and your guest may never feel that but just something I’ve seen! All love brother 🧡
I love Jordan Peterson, love listening to him, he's not perfect, like all of us but loves the Lord, let's pray for one another 🙏
This is absolutely beautiful, I want a friendship like that so bad
Praying Dr Peterson accepts Christ and becomes Orthodox. Jonathan P is the real deal. Great inspiration, does a great job of articulating Orthodoxy.
I'm so thankful for Jordan Peterson. I have learned so much from him and this weekend I'll be baptised into orthodoxy because of his biblical series
God bless Jonathan
Jonathan*. great convo. Would love to hear your thoughts, Ruslan, on the Armenian Apostolic tradition of your heritage.
Jonathon Pageau brought me back to Catholicism.
Mr Peterson the world loves you and will pray with you for your success in your walk with Christ!
So stinks, RUclips blocked the Johnathan Roumie video saying there was "disney content"... Can you try to reupload it?
Jordan Peterson is amazing.
Oethodox christianity is the true way God intended for us to worship.
I don't agree with Jordan Pageau on everything, but I thoroughly enjoyed you having him on the channel! Admire you allow others on the channel to discuss the non-essentials of the faith.
Jonathan
Thank God I was already a Christian when I visited Athens a few years ago. When I climbed up the Parthenon I knew that only the beautiful simplicity of the Gospel could turn the hearts of the people who built such a marvelous buildings, to Christ.
I also visited Toronto, New York, and Chicago. The opposite but similar thing is happening. The culture that built the modern buildings was established upon the common belief that God is Good and patient and most of all Loving. If we don't return to the same naive simplicity of the Gospel and stop being selfish, the future generations are probably going to marvel at the remains of Brooklyn Bridge.
People support creative society its very important !
The way Pageau was sitting made him kinda made him look like a dwarf man 😂
I thought there was something wrong with me for thinking he looked like he had T Rex arms 😆
😂🤣the things that people see, though!
Best guest Ruslan has ever had
Jonathan was instrumental in my conversion
How do I get the full 90 min interview
Why is the eyes white in the red picture in the background?Very strange......just curious ,Brent
Yes
There’s nothing wrong with interjecting when you have something to ask or say but in an interview please refrain from the “mmhmm” acknowledgements to every sentence. It detracts from the interview. I know it can be a hard habit to break but you will be able to reach more people and be a better interviewer if you can manage to overcome this habit. God bless!
In other cultures, this acknowledgment is seen as a respectful habit, and shows that you are listening, interested, and that what they are saying is resonating with you.
Anyone who is Christian should research the orthodox faith and realize all expressions of Christianity have their roots in orthodoxy.
3:38 ruslan looking for propositions to work backwards from “you mean Jesus when you say Logos” statement not question
Hard to admit Orthodox theology predates Protestantism
13:59 this is a good friend and a good perspective
Thank you for this. I listen to Jonathan P. He is awesome.
I listen to Jordan as well.
Yes, Jordan is truly struggling to try to make sense of the whole thing! It’s interesting to watch him.
What’s interesting to me also is this is a spiritual battle for him.
He’s using his intellect. I would say 100%. He needs to back off a little and just let go and let God enter his heart.
He has not done that 100% yet. I think when he realizes he’s getting nowhere with his brain alone he will come to the realization that he needs a higher power God to step in.
He’s in a battle and it’s gonna take longer because he’s fighting it.
Hopefully his wife and Jonathan will be influences for him.
It’s fascinating to watch. Thank you for this.😊👍🙏
I made this comment before somewhere on another RUclips. Whenever I listen to Jordon speak, it is like reading the book of Ecclesiastes.
Interesting. But how so? Care to explain ?
Logos is the spoken word- speech.Its greek.For example the word logistics comes from Logos and the - istic.< Istic > is the ending of many adjectives in greek..( in english also ) thousands elements of the English language come from the greek
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Just put the whole interview up man. Come on.
4:41 Bro, what is this thing, that smoke that passes through the screen? Was it made artificially by y'all or it just appeared?
I've wondered if Peterson had read Schaeffer. He honed in on Post Modernism as a focal point for many of the current problems.
What's the story behind that image of Jesus behind Ruslan?
is subjectively bad art. not a fan
A friend of his made it, and although the other replier doesn’t like it, subjectively, I think it’s dope
Beauty, as they say…
Yeah I don't get it, surprised no one else is bothered by it including him.
It's probably from one of them artsy fartsy guys he talks about.
This is an example of the way Od does crisis management , partnering people who otherwise wouldn’t have found each other .❤️
Logos and rhema are both intrinsically vital to life.
Johnathan Pageaus pattern recognition and symbolic intuition is unbelievable his comparison to Jordan peterson and King Cyrus! 😮
I'm not sure if i've ever seen someone ask Jordan Peterson this, but I wonder if he has earnestly prayed "Jesus I want to believe in you, please come into my life" And also, I've heard him before say something to the effect of "that it would be terrifying it if were true" Now that doesn't necessarily mean that someone doesn't want Jesus to be real, but I think that could be something worth exploring further.
In response I think he might ask you something like "what exactly do you mean by believe?" The Father is after him. Pray that Jordan wouldn't reject the pursuit of the Spirit of God.
@@riner60341 *I think you're right he very well may respond that way*
And I will pray for Jordan. I think if he did respond that way, could someone not respond with something like
"Well the same way that you *believe* that William the Conqueror was a real person who fought in the Battle of Hastings, have you told Jesus that you want to believe who he says he is, God incarnate, the second person of the Trinity, our creator, the resurrected savior and redeemer, and the only means of salvation for sinners.
If you want to have a discussion on Logos, E. Michael Jones is your man. He expounds on it constantly, and wrote a book called Logos Is Rising: A History of Ultimate Reality. He's also a staunch Catholic and defender of the faith. I believe Logos is rising, which explains all the public conversions and other phenomena we've been seeing the past few years.
E Michael Jones is the man. They might not be ready for the J issue tho lol.
What initially drew me to Jorden Petersen was his intellectual honesty. IHe only will say something he believes to be true, AND that he has thoroughly examined. He has an incredible mind that is able to extrapolate very complex ideas and make unique and novel connections. He literally is studying his mind as he speaks, and his mind and wealth of knowledge is vast. Thus, I don't understand anyone who could believe he is grifter, they simply have never seen, as Jonathan has clarified, a person REALY grappling with truth UNDERSTANDS the gravity of it, and in their own right is committed to NOT LIE. Thus, he too is a man of integrity, which is also a rarity. He is DEFINITLY not too far from the kingdom.
Jordan needs our prayers. He's so close to becoming a Christian, if he truly seeks, God will be right there for him. Love johnathan, I may not be orthodox, but we agree on many many areas, and I consider him a brother in Christ!
I think he believes in Christ. He just has not chosen an organized church because of the baggage that may come with it. Denomination stuff. The division within the body of the believers themselves. That is why many professing Christ will still end up in hell. Christs doctrine was not on organizing a religion, but a way of life that connects you with God. The only organizing should be in fellowship, the communion and works that please God. Faith in God not man but doing works, not to be saved, but because you are already saved.
Its funny cuz i think i found jonathan through petersons exodus series and the way he explained the stories in a way i had never heard before but for some reason related to sooo much so that it stood out and i started following him after that. I didnt even begin to realize the history of them both and even to this point here with how long its been going on... God works in mysterious ways lol. And even the fact hes on this channel now which is a channel i found early on about 2 years ago when i started taking christianity seriously... to think it all stemmed from me finding jordan peterson from all the controversy that arised in the trump era and to now here is such a full circle moment it amazes me lol
3:50 Peterson Pagaeu logos bridge between philosophy and God. God speaks reason is the ordering principle of the word
It's interesting that he mentioned that Jordan Peterson has this transition role because before I accepted Christ I watch a lot of his lectures before studying scripture and believing the gospel.
Can someone explain Orthodox Christianity and why they put an emphasis on the "Orthodox"?
@Ruslan, You should bring Jordan Peterson in too or her daughter.
I’m sure Ruslan would love to but Jordan Peterson is world known. He has thousands of people wanting him on their pod many of them much more influential then Ruslan. Jordan going on Ruslan would change his channel forever and bring him eyes he never had access too. It’s defo not as simple as he should get Jordan cause I can assure he he’d love that as we all would. Maybe now that he had Jonathan on if Jonathan likes how it went he can plug Ruslan to JP which would increase his chances.
Can someone give me more info on the red painting of Christ in the back ?
I know, it is a weird painting
hum, hum, hum, hum, hum,
4:12
Pageau is a great public intellectual who doesn't get enough recognition
Will his role as a bridge between atheists /gnostics /seekers to the Logos fundamentally change when he himself crosses the bridge he didn’t make?
Shou out to Philo!
From the very first day I heard JBP speak on the scriptures, I knew Orthodoxy would be at his side.
God used Jordan Peterson to save my life. I would not be here right now if it weren't for that man's struggle with God leading me to enter the ring with Him myself. I think God needs Dr. Peterson to struggle with these things publicly so the world can see it. Jordan led me to God and Jonathan led me to the Church. Thank God for these men. I am alive for the first time at the age of 40 because of them.
Ruslan "Mhmm" KD
I love your Jesus in the back.
Is that ok to have pictures to remind us who is Lord.
I have put crosses and art at my home as my faith is so uneducated and new.
I put him up in all my crazy art projects but heard it would hurt him by crosses ect ect.
Sorry I have Aplasia
I can’t afford Patreon every one of you guys on the RUclips one Patreon subscribers I cannot afford it. So I’m just glad that you have some possibilities for those of us who can’t afford it. Thank you
Each of us has his or her own story with The LOGOS
Amen
Pageau may have been behind Russell Brand’s latest changes.
He's not mysterious lol. He has his own RUclips channel.
Welcome to the "mmm, mmhmmm" podcast
Its annoying
Very much so
Good channel. Please be mindful of your "Mhmm" tick when the other person is talking. It can be distracting.
Most Christians have been taught to have high regard for Jesus without being taught to have high regard for the Logos.
Most Christians have no idea what Logos means anymore. The thing is, Protestantism and Catholicism became nominalist (the complete opposite of plato) during the reformation. Orthodox still has neoplatonism and retooled/repurposed it.
@@the11382 for a religion of such importance, its a very strange and disturbing phenomenon, as if the truth itself is receding.
what aspects of orthodox have neoplatonism repurposed ?
As soon as Jordan Peterson definitively says whether he believes in God, people will pigeonhole him. Then his critics can dismiss him as this or that, whichever side they take. I think he doesn't want anyone to assume what he thinks based on their conception of what he they think he believes.
When Interviewing it's critical not to speak into the mic so much when the guest is talking. I thought this would be interesting but unfortunately I had to turn it off.
Jordan Peterson was my bridge back to Christianity
I went from agnostic to Chrstian after a maybe-supernatural event that occured. Being very logical minded and being that my profession is finding and exploiting vulnerabilities in software, it has been a struggle for me to read the Bible. However, I told myself that if the Word is truth, then truth will be revealed, no matter how deep I dig. That didnt work out. The more I read, the more I came across dozens and dozens of problems with the Bible, before even getting to the New Testament. I started documenting all these things but after many pages, it got exhausting and seemingly pointless since it seemed as though it would be never ending. 3-5 years later, and I think I am going back to being agnostic. I am very sad, because I feel like I NEEDED Christianity to work out for me.
The focus is on the centre of Christianity itself, who is Christ Jesus. Ask Him to reveal Himself to you in His way, not yours.
If I may ask, what problems with the Bible did you run into?
Jordan did say ................Give em hell, Netanyahu. On face value this is so hateful. He has not withdrawn it. You are friends of his..............get him to exercise HUMILITY, the prince of Christian virtues and become stronger