The Lord's Supper: A Metaphor
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- Опубликовано: 5 мар 2018
- Rev. Dr. Eric Phillips of Concordia Lutheran in Nashville, Tenn., explains the sacrament of the Lord's Supper from the Bible and the Lutheran Confessions. First part of a four-part series on the Eucharist.
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Excellent explanation of Christ's gifts to us!
Beautifully done and beautifully described!
Thanks for posting this!
As an Old Catholic who served an ELCA Lutheran Church before taking on Holy Orders I really dig this.
Confessional Lutherans are the real Old Catholics! Haha. Just curious, which Old Catholic denomination? PNCC?
There is no precedent in metaphorical statement on the form of A is B to replace is with represent.
Is he a door? No he hasn’t wood or hinges. On the contrary, he is a door. The basic function of the door is to enter and exit a space. He functions as this for ‘the sheep’
Is he the vine? Ha, of course not. Does he have leaves or wood? On the contrary he shares the basic functionality of a vine toward his ‘branches’. One cannot say he is not that.
With all these metaphoric am, are and is statements we take the base purpose of the ordinary thing and attribute that function to help identify what the divine is and does to a certain object..
So in the supper we see a similar tactic, but in reverse:
He attributes the base purpose of a DIVINE thing (body and blood) and attributes the base function to an ordinary thing (bread and wine) that it may be so for those who eat it.
Why don't the woman cover their heads in church?
Some do, but the meaning of a covered (or uncovered) head is not the same in our culture as it was in the first century. Not for women, at least; there is some overlap for men.
@Eric Phillips so what is the symbol of headship in our culture?
Did Jesus eat his own body and drink his own blood with his disciples then?
Christ is certainly present at the Eucharist, and through the Eucharist, but the bread remains bread and the wine remains wine.I think the Lutherans are still a little popish in their understanding of this sacrament.
We are not Papists, It was a consensus among the fathers of the church and in every Christian church that the Body and Blood of Christ are present in the Holy Eucharist, see: Ignatius, Justin, Irenaeus, Hippolytus, Clement of Alexandria, among others, believed that the body and blood of Christ are there, and it is a Promise that he himself made: John 6:48-56.
What about God’s command not to eat/drink blood? Why would Jesus tell us to do something that is forbidden in the Old Testament? I am opposed to the RCC way of believing that the elements are transformed in literal body and blood of Jesus. Isn’t this cannibalism? I’m glad Lutherans don’t look at it as a re-sacrificing of Jesus over and over again, but I would feel so much better if it was said that the elements, received by grace through faith in God, bring blessing to us each time because of the special spiritual presence of Christ’s body and blood in the elements. I am asking this sincerely. Can anyone give me some (kind) feedback, please?
Because the blood of Christ is what gives life to all creation.
The blood was withheld under the Law because "the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life" (Lev. 17:11). The blood was constantly needed to cover sins. But the blood of Jesus has actually _taken away_ sin (Heb. 10:1-18). And now He gives us His life, in the blood, where the life is. Think about it; if this had not changed, would Jesus even _symbolize_ something so contrary to the Law?
And it's not cannibalism, because we are not destroying Him or His body. We are just participating in the benefits of His sacrifice, and receiving confirmation that we have truly been made His Body.
Lisa, Jesus Christ teaches NOTHING that enters a person defiles that person! Especially consuming the all Holy God that gives Life and purifies! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink
Lisa, yet, Jesus Christ teaches the bread, WHEN BLESSED, "is My Body ". The Roman Catholic Church affirms this Divine reality! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink
@@ericphillips8268 the 1st century Christian's were accused of cannibalism regularly so bad they were persecuted as such in Rome. As well as incest. They ate the flesh and blood of their Jesus and called each other brother and sister. Basically a Roman "Karen" would over hear them talk and just do what "Karen's" do...gossip maliciously and call for them to be arrested.